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Posted by: MacNymph 6 November 2006 - 08:56 AM
QUOTE (blueice @ Sep 27 2006, 02:40 AM)
I was always under the impression that MacGyver was a vegetarian because he was always eating salads, alfalfa sprouts, etc. In the episode Jack in the Box, however, we see Mac eating chicken,-"straight from the warden's own private hen house," and commenting that it was good. Is this a case of:

A: Vegetarian prisoners giving themselves a temporary pass?
B: MacGyver not being a vegetarian, (just happens to like a lot of fruits and vegetables)?
C: A small oversight by the writers of that particular episode?
D: Other?†


QUOTE (Lothithil @ Sep 27 2006, 02:44 AM)

Mac is not a vegetarian. He's eaten meat on a number of occasions.

I think he's just a health nut.


QUOTE (blueice @ Sep 27 2006, 02:57 AM)
Health nut makes sense. What kinds of meat did he it? Do you remember the episodes?†


QUOTE (Mac @ Sep 27 2006, 03:03 AM)

I see an evolution in what he eats throughout the show. Some people become veggies overnight while for others it's long process.

We see him eat red meat then reptile, which is almost like white meat, and then white meat and then the tofu jokes start. That's a pretty typical vegetarian evolution.


QUOTE (MacNymph @ Sep 27 2006, 04:23 AM)

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Health nut makes sense. What kinds of meat did he it? Do you remember the episodes?†


I don't have a notebook like some people, *looks at Loth * but I remember he got a lamb sandwich in Slow Death.


QUOTE (deana @ Sep 27 2006, 04:25 AM)
MacGyver is a typical man of the eighty's
He's concerned about his health, the wold-peace and environment.
He should be a member off GREENPEACE; a enviromentalist.
I don't think he's a real vegetarian.


QUOTE (Hawki @ Sep 27 2006, 04:58 AM)
no, he isn't vegeterian, i remember him in some episodes eating animals he catch


QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ Sep 27 2006, 04:59 AM)
It never really occured to me he was a vegetarian. Just speculations from around here said he was. Maybe it was all vegetarian meat?


QUOTE (MacNymph @ Sep 27 2006, 05:10 AM)

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MacGyver is a typical man of the eighty's
He's concerned about his health, the wold-peace and environment.
He should be a member off GREENPEACE; a enviromentalist.
I don't think he's a real vegetarian.

dry.gif Is that "a typical" or "atypical"? Because I don't remember the typical man in the eighties being like that.


QUOTE (MacNymph @ Sep 27 2006, 05:18 AM)

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It never really occured to me he was a vegetarian. Just speculations from around here said he was. Maybe it was all vegetarian meat?


Exactly wink.gif that's all it is. And it's not just this site. It's rampant on and off the net. Vegitarianism seems to be a "noble" attribute. (along with the abstaining from alcohol) There seems to be an overwelming urge to take MacGyver from the good guy we know him to be into some kind of saint. And that goes nauseatingly double for RDA himself.


QUOTE (Lothithil @ Sep 27 2006, 05:20 AM)
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I don't have a notebook like some people, *looks at Loth * but I remember he got a lamb sandwich in Slow Death.†


I doubt you guys want a list of everything Mac eats in the course of 7 seasons!

In addition to those already listed, I remember Mac eating fish with Harry in 'Target MacGyver'. He also ate a piece of mystery meat out of that Partisan stew in the gambit before 'Trumbo's World'... anyway, I hope it was beef! happy.gif
Oh, yeah... he and Luther caught trout with spears to feed the rest of the kids in 'Final Approach'. Rattlesnake was on the lunch menu, too!

When I'm talking to folks and they insist that Mac became a vegan, I tell them to watch 'Eagles', and listen to Mac's philosophy about survival:
'One animal must die so that another can live... it's Nature's balancing act'

I imagine that Mac would happily survive on tofu and bean curd when he's at home, but when he goes abroad, whether in a foreign city or the wilderness, he forages.

That's why I think 'Grazer' is the perfect name for his 'homeless' character!


QUOTE (Hawki @ Sep 27 2006, 06:25 AM)
Lothithil, I think you're absolutly right. I watch Gost Ship a few days ago and he went walking through canadian forrest in this ep. Pete said he went without any food, he only took fishing rod and some other equipment. So he was probably planing to catch some animals, I don't think he was planing to gather fruit and plants.†


QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ Sep 27 2006, 07:41 AM)

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But that's not the funniest part. As soon as he finally gets to sit down with his not-so-enormous sandwich, despite the fact that he's ravenous, he actually pauses before biting into the thing and proceeds to examine it, picking stuff out. Oooookay.


Is it? I gotta check that out. I only remember him looking up when the one-armed man comes back to apologise.
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I doubt you guys want a list of everything Mac eats in the course of 7 seasons!


Actually we do. It's something we haven't really discussed yet in the forums.
The MacGyver Restaurant Menu!!! Cooking with MacGyver, it would be a great kids show.
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I imagine that Mac would happily survive on tofu and bean curd when he's at home, but when he goes abroad, whether in a foreign city or the wilderness, he forages.


Absolutely. MacGyver is a man that blends in foreign societies.

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That's why I think 'Grazer' is the perfect name for his 'homeless' character!†


Bud, let's just go grazing.


QUOTE (Lothithil @ Sep 27 2006, 07:41 AM)

(((Hawki))) *whispers* Alaska!
Remember also that in 'Survivors', he and Pete were foraging for nuts and berries when they found that DEA airplane that had been shot down.†


QUOTE (Rockatteer @ Sep 27 2006, 08:51 AM)

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Remember also that in 'Survivors', he and Pete were foraging for nuts and berries when they found that DEA airplane

yeah but thats because nuts and berries are standard practice when camping in the woods. They are easier and more certain than setting up a trap and hoping that some small animal comes along to get caught in it.

And then once it is caught you have the whole deal with gutting it.. Skinning it.. Cooking it.

And of course nuts and Berries can be carried with you as energy snacks.


QUOTE (Amy @ Sep 27 2006, 09:53 AM)
Also remember in Humanity he tells Victor if he gets the urge to be violent to catch them some fish outta the lake.

I'm partial to thinking he's just a health nut...Eating bean sprouts or tofu once in a while doesn't make you a vegetarian. And I agree that his diet definitely adapts to his surroundings.


QUOTE (Mac @ Sep 27 2006, 11:50 AM)

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(((Hawki))) *whispers* Alaska!

Remember also that in 'Survivors', he and Pete were foraging for nuts and berries when they found that DEA airplane that had been shot down.

In the dark. I'm still trying to figure out what sort of idiot survival course teaches you to look for food in the dark.

I get the impression that Mac started to eat less red meat as the show went on and that he favours tofu at home, but isn't adverse to eating meat (like fish) when he's away.


QUOTE (MacGyver @ Sep 27 2006, 12:57 PM)
Interesting topic. Well, I think MacGyver will eat practically anything if he has to - to survive. (like in "The Gauntlet", when he eats a lizard or some sort of reptile.- or "Final Approach", etc.) He does tend to eat tofu and whipped bean curd and other vegetables and fruit- but that doesn't mean he doesn't eat meat. Don't forget the "infamous MacGyver bayou-burned blackened redfish" from "Family Matter"!
So obviously MacGyver eats meat and isn't necessarily a vegetarian. I think he's more of health nut, as others have said. Another interesting thing to note is that MacGyver doesn't smoke, doesn't drink- and pretty much (although this is inconsistent from the first season as well) abstains from coffee. He generally tends to go with orange juice or some other fruit juice- though yes, I know, in "The Prodigal" he complains about not having his morning coffee yet. But I think this is another one of those things that developed throughout the show's run. What about soft drinks? Was he ever seen drinking a cola very often? (Aside from the couple dozen colas he "bought" in "Rush to Judgement"! )†



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Posted by: MacNymph 6 November 2006 - 09:14 AM
QUOTE (Hawki @ Sep 27 2006, 06:49 PM)

As the show went on, there were less and less cases when he was stuck wilderness trying to survive. In first seasons he was all over the world, but as the show went on, he was more and more in usa, urban environment, just my thought. 


QUOTE (rockatteer @ Sep 27 2006, 07:07 PM)

how do you relate that to whether he's vegetarian or not? 


QUOTE (Hawki @ Sep 27 2006, 07:30 PM)

Someone said that as the show went on he get the impression that he eat less and less meat. Maybe he eat meat only when he has to. And as i said in first seasons there was a lot of cases when he has to cought animal and eat them to survive, but as the show went on there were less and less that cases. Maybe i'm completely wrong i don't know 


QUOTE (Mac @ Sep 27 2006, 11:51 PM)

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and pretty much (although this is inconsistent from the first season as well) abstains from coffee. 


Maybe the guy gave up coffee?

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What about soft drinks?


He has a sip of what looks like cola in 'The Prodigal.'



Posted by: MacNymph 6 November 2006 - 09:33 AM
QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ Sep 28 2006, 01:40 AM)

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I'm still trying to figure out what sort of idiot survival course teaches you to look for food in the dark.

Why not? Why do you think they had flashlights, huh?
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how do you relate that to whether he's vegetarian or not? 

Let's just say he's not. He's just a healthy guy, avoids alcohol and fastfood.

And who says meat is not healthy? MacGyver seems like a vegetables with meat and potatoes kind of guy.
MacGyver will eat anything to survive, even if it's bugs.
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pretty much (although this is inconsistent from the first season as well) abstains from coffee. He generally tends to go with orange juice or some other fruit juice- though yes, I know, in "The Prodigal" he complains about not having his morning coffee yet. 


He did say in The Negotiator that he doesn't drink coffee. But why would he ask then for getting together and discuss the acid rain issue over a cup of coffee?


QUOTE (Lothithil @ Sep 28 2006, 02:29 AM)

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pretty much (although this is inconsistent from the first season as well) abstains from coffee. He generally tends to go with orange juice or some other fruit juice- though yes, I know, in "The Prodigal" he complains about not having his morning coffee yet. 

He did say in The Negotiator that he doesn't drink coffee. But why would he ask then for getting together and discuss the acid rain issue over a cup of coffee?


Heh! I'm not arguing that Mac didn't eventually stop drinking coffee (many folks do as they grow older), but in 'The Negotiator' I think that Mac's comment about not drinking coffee is a joke.

"Let's get together and have a cup of coffee" is a rather popular euphemism for a date. He was making a point to the lady that he wanted to spend time with her... with or without coffee.

It's just so cute how nervous he was about asking her out! *chuckle*


QUOTE (Mac @ Sep 28 2006, 02:55 AM)

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I'm still trying to figure out what sort of idiot survival course teaches you to look for food in the dark.

Why not? Why do you think they had flashlights, huh?

I've taken I don't now how many survival courses and recertifications for work purposes in all seasons and weather conditions. The one thing that's drilled into you is that you hunker down at night. You don't risk your life traipsing around in the dark in unknown terrain looking for food. Night manoeuvres are another thing all together, of course, but getting food is part of making camp and you do those things when it's still light out.


QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ Sep 28 2006, 02:59 AM)

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It's just so cute how nervous he was about asking her out! *chuckle*


He didn't look nervous to me. He just asked it carefully.


QUOTE (Hawki @ Sep 28 2006, 04:52 AM)

To me it look like teenager, who's a bit shy and nervous about asking this girl out 

It really is cute part 


QUOTE (MacNymph @ Sep 28 2006, 05:43 AM)

QUESTION: Do vegetarians wear leather?

That was a mighty fine black leather jacket Mac rode off into the sunset in The Stringer in. 


QUOTE (Lothithil @ Sep 28 2006, 05:45 AM)

Good point, Nymphy! 

Posted by: MacNymph 6 November 2006 - 09:42 AM
QUOTE (Mac @ Sep 28 2006, 06:04 AM)

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Good point, Nymphy! 


You can be a vegetarian and wear leather. It's vegans who tend to not wear leather, although more and more 'dietary vegans' do not make the 'no-animal product' switch into the rest of their lives.


QUOTE (Lothithil @ Sep 28 2006, 07:35 AM)

I guess it all depends upon why a person is a vegetarian.

If it is because one doesn't want to hurt the little fuzzy animals, then wearing leather and using animal products is out.

If it because you just don't like to eat meat... anything goes!

Then again, there's a difference between vegetarians and vegans. I'm sure that there are more differences that I can imagine.

I personally can't imagine not eating meat. They shoot people around here for less!  (Loth lives in Beef Country)


QUOTE (Mac @ Sep 28 2006, 07:44 AM)

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I guess it all depends upon why a person is a vegetarian.

If it is because one doesn't want to hurt the little fuzzy animals, then wearing leather and using animal products is out.

If it because you just don't like to eat meat... anything goes!

Then again, there's a difference between vegetarians and vegans. I'm sure that there are more differences that I can imagine.

I personally can't imagine not eating meat. They shoot people around here for less!  (Loth lives in Beef Country)


Veganism is a whole way of life, almost a philosophy. Vegetarianism is a much looser concept.

Personally, I don't eat meat because I can't stand the taste of it or how it feels in my mouth, for the most part (I eat fish and seafood (but not at home)). If I'm in a situation where I have to eat what is offered and there's meat I go hungry, unless we're talking about a really long period of time (more than 2 weeks), in which case I'll eat around the meat.

I get the impression that MacGyver doesn't mind certain types of meat (like chicken and fish), but that he wouldn't make them at home.


QUOTE (Hawki @ Sep 28 2006, 07:21 PM)

Yes that is true, some people just don't eat meat, other don't eat any animal products (eggs for example), it's different level of vegeterians i think 


QUOTE (Amy Sep 29 2006 @ 12:43 AM)

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I personally can't imagine not eating meat. They shoot people around here for less!  (Loth lives in Beef Country)


I know what you mean! I live in beef country, venison country, pig county...you get the picture...LOL...we're nothing but farms! I love my veggies, but meat is like a way of life here.


QUOTE (Mac @ Sep 29 2006, 12:49 AM)

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Yes that is true, some people just don't eat meat, other don't eat any animal products (eggs for example), it's different level of vegeterians i think 


Vegans eat no meat products whatsoever (including things like honey, jello, even wine).

Ovo-lacto vegetarians eat nothing that was alive, but do eat eggs and dairy (but nothing that contains gelatine, like jello).

Then there's the sort-of vegetarians, which are combinations of ovo, lacto, pollo (eat chicken), and pesco (eat fish).

Mac
semi-lacto/pesco-vegetarian (hey, that's catchy!)


QUOTE (Yuri Demetri @ Sep 29 2006, 01:14 AM)

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Vegans eat no meat products whatsoever (including things like honey, jello, even wine).


Wine? I had no idea wine wasn't vegan. Any ideas why?


QUOTE (Lothithil @ Sep 29 2006, 02:28 AM)

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Vegans eat no meat products whatsoever (including things like honey, jello, even wine).

Wine? I had no idea wine wasn't vegan. Any ideas why?


Wine, mead, and beer are all made by adding bacteria to the mix, which are basically little animals that eat sugar and excrete alcohol. Therefore, such beverages are byproducts of living animals.

Mmmm... appetizing, eh??


QUOTE (MacGyver @ Sep 29 2006, 02:34 AM)

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Vegans eat no meat products whatsoever (including things like honey, jello, even wine).


Ovo-lacto vegetarians eat nothing that was alive, but do eat eggs and dairy (but nothing that contains gelatine, like jello).

Then there's the sort-of vegetarians, which are combinations of ovo, lacto, pollo (eat chicken), and pesco (eat fish).

They do know that plants are alive too, right?




Posted by: MacNymph 6 November 2006 - 09:54 AM
QUOTE (Mac @ Sep 29 2006, 02:38 AM)

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"Wine? I had no idea wine wasn't vegan. Any ideas why?"


Wine, mead, and beer are all made by adding bacteria to the mix, which are basically little animals that eat sugar and excrete alcohol. Therefore, such beverages are byproducts of living animals.

Mmmm... appetizing, eh??


Actually, that's not the reason. It has to do with the way wine is processed.

You can read more here:

http://vegans.frommars.org/wine/faq.php#1.2

Bread would be off limits (because of yeast) if the reason you evoked was the reason wine is taboo.

I agree with you about the plants being alive thing. I think that the line is drawn at living things that can actually feel pain.


QUOTE (Yuri Demetri @ Sep 29 2006, 03:48 AM)

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I think that the line is drawn at living things that can actually feel pain.


I agree, otherwise you would be worried about taking antibiotics.


QUOTE (Hawki @ Sep 29 2006, 04:46 AM)

Talking about pain that animal feel when they're killed...What about animals that kills other animal and eat them? They also feel pain, just like they feel it when people kill and eat them. This is just food chain you know, it's part of life. 


QUOTE (MacNymph @ Sep 29 2006, 05:51 AM)

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Ovo-lacto vegetarians eat nothing that was alive, but do eat eggs and dairy (but nothing that contains gelatine, like jello).

Then there's the sort-of vegetarians, which are combinations of ovo, lacto, pollo (eat chicken), and pesco (eat fish).


Is it just me or does it seem like all these variations of vegetariansim (btw a true vegetarian eats NO meat of any kind) could otherwise be called a dislike of certain types of food/meat?

I didn't eat eggs for about 15 years after my uncle (antagonistic wooly mamoth of a man) told me eggs were liquid chicken But I would have never called myself an ovo-vegetarian.

Or the 25 years I didn't eat lamb because my Dad told me mutton was a cute little fuzzy lamb? Baa-vegetarian?


QUOTE (Mac @ Sep 29 2006, 06:07 AM)

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Is it just me or does it seem like all these variations of vegetariansim could otherwise be called a dislike of certain types of food/meat?


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(btw a true vegetarian eats NO meat of any kind)


Hence why I called the ones that do 'sort-of' vegetarians.

I totally agree about the dislike thing. A lot of vegetarians and vegans I know really do believe that eating an animal is wrong, but there are as many who, like me, simply can't stand the taste and texture. Then there are those for whom it's a combination of factors--not only do I think beef and chicken are disgusting, I also think that the cattle and chicken industries are disgusting.


QUOTE (rockatteer @ Sep 29 2006, 10:15 AM)

The simple fact is we have to eat. That means something has to die.. be it plant, animal.. whatever.

As MacGyver said in Eagles... "It's all part of natures balancing act".

To be worrying about if plant feels pain, or if the fish you just caught for dinner is feeling pain to me is stupid.

I can understand people disliking the whole mass production meat industry, or just having a personal preference.. but I think some peoples reasoningís for what they eat are straight out of La-La-Land 


QUOTE (Mac @ Sep 29 2006, 10:22 AM)

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To be worrying about if plant feels pain, or if the fish you just caught for dinner is feeling pain to me is stupid.


A lot many people would take offense to that because it's like calling a religious belief 'stupid.' But it's your opinion, so... *shrugs*

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I can understand people disliking the whole mass production meat industry, or just having a personal preference..  but I think some peoples reasoningís for what they eat are straight out of La-La-Land

See above comment.

I think that what I'm understanding from your post is that you think people need to be honest with themselves about why they believe what they believe/eat what they eat. For example: it's more 'noble' to say 'I don't believe in causing animals pain' when the simple truth is 'I don't like the taste.' Anywhere near close?


Posted by: MacNymph 6 November 2006 - 10:41 AM
QUOTE (Yuri Demetri @ Sep 29 2006, 01:36 PM)

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Someone wrote a great short story in which the main character creates a machine that can render all sound audible to the human ear. One day, he tests his machine in a park where a gardner is pruning. The inventor hears the plants shriek as they're cut. Knowing that even plants feel pain, the inventor slowly succumbs to maddness. Great story, wish I could find it again!


Sounds like a great 'what if?' kind of story that makes you really think. Perhaps we should now all become level 5 vegans - it's where you don't eat anything that casts a shadow. (For those of you that remember the relevant Simpsons episode).

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As for fungi, I'd say they're living critters because they eat stuff. 'Decay' is just the process of fungi feasting on dead organic matter. Yum, yum!


Yes of course, I should have worded that better, I just used fungi as an example of another thing that doesn't feel pain.


QUOTE (MEP @ Sep 29 2006, 02:51 PM)

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Wine, mead, and beer are all made by adding bacteria to the mix, which are basically little animals that eat sugar and excrete alcohol. Therefore, such beverages are byproducts of living animals.

Mmmm... appetizing, eh?? 


Ya know that mean that also cant eat bread because it has not only eggs but Yeast to make the bread rise?

Yea I know I'm being a brat but I thinks some of the Veagen stuff is just silly. Than again I think some of the thinks in different tradition of Wicca are silly too like need to go skyclad to preform magick.


QUOTE (MacGirl @ Sep 29 2006, 03:13 PM)

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Talking about pain that animal feel when they're killed...What about animals that kills other animal and eat them? They also feel pain, just like they feel it when people kill and eat them. This is just food chain you know, it's part of life. 


Yep, I agree with that. Everything is going to die or killed and be eaten anyway, so what's the difference if it's US doing the killing and eating or another animal?? I prefer organically raised meat, because it tastes better and the animals are treated better while they're alive.

I personally can't be a vegetarian, even if I wanted to be. I have a tendency towards iron-deficiency, and also towards depression, which can be made worse by not getting enough vitamin B-12. Yes, you can take B-12 supplements (which I do) but the best way to get it is in animal products.


QUOTE (Hawki @ Sep 29 2006, 07:25 PM)

I think in India they don't eat cow, they think it's a sacred animal. This's happening in a lot religious countries. 


QUOTE (Mac @ Sep 30 2006, 12:37 AM)

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Eggs in bread?!


Yes, there is such a thing as egg bread but, otherwise, no eggs go into the making of bread.
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Yea I know I'm being a brat but I thinks some of the Veagen stuff is just silly. Than again I think some of the thinks in different tradition of Wicca are silly too like need to go skyclad to preform magick.


You don't need to go skyclad. It's a personal choice. Some people feel it puts them in touch with the universe. Personally, I like to wear a robe.

Religious beliefs tend to look silly to outsiders. I know that if someone had told me years ago that I would believe in what I believe in I would have fallen to the floor laughing. But religion is about revelation, so it's something that can't be explained, much less understood by an 'outsider.'


QUOTE (thlayli87 Sep @ 30 2006, 05:08 AM)

I was watching Strictly Business last night and I noticed in the scene where Murdoc has the dinner spread set up for MacGyver he urges him to sit down and eat, and he says something like "I made it myself. It's vegetarian." This seems to imply that either:
a) Mac was a vegetarian at that point (end of season 6)
b) Murdoc just assumed that he was a vegetarian
c) Murdoc is joking offhandedly, and has no idea whether Mac is vegetarian or not
d) Murdoc is a vegetarian (have we ever seen him eat anything?) 


QUOTE (Lothithil @ Sep 30 2006, 05:24 AM)

If Murdoc had looked inside Mac's 'fridge, he might have assumed that Mac was a vegetarian.

I think that Murdoc was jusst trying to get Mac to sit down and relax, and by saying that everything prepared was vegetarian, it would remove one possible objection to Mac refusing the bait.

I doubt that Murdoc is vegetarian, because in the same episode, he is munching on a chicken leg that he filched from the refrigerator at the campground! 


QUOTE (MacGyverPeter @ Oct 3 2006, 11:11 AM )

Some season 2 examples:

Mac orders chinese food.(It's debateable, but more than likely there is meat in it IMHO)

Pete and Mac come out of an Indian food restaurant. I would imagine indian food might have meat in it, but i don't know, since indians do praise cows... i think?

Mac makes some kinda food... I think again it is indian food, but it goes up in flames. He says "How about some cheeseburgers?" (The one where we meet Pete's family)

MacGyver is health conscience: but however rice and beans is one of the few things you can eat that will give you a complete protien. Wouldnt MacGyver want protien in his diet? I don't recall MacGyver ever eating this combination.

Some other examples:
He bike rides with his neigbor at the beginning he wants to eat donuts and at the end mac gets him on a health food plan.

So logically one would have to establish:
Fact:
MacGyver eats healthily.
Argument:
MacGyver is a vegitarian.

Point:
Establish a healthy diet.
Establish a healthy vegitarian diet.

From the examples we see does MacGyver fit in to 0 , 1, or all of the categories.

From a logical point of view I would say he is a healthy eater, one who is rounded in all 5 food groups (and 6th,fats,etc ( ICECREAM!)). He may happen to prefer vegetables over meats its a little something called: your tastes.

There are cases which can be argued both ways.

I do like lothill's point of view very much.

I see him as a healthy eater who may or may not be converting to vegitarianism gradually by the end of the story. Because from the very beginning : He is startin to feel sympathetic for them chickens. 


QUOTE (MEP @ Oct 3 2006, 12:54 PM)

I jsut found a Quote I just thought I should share.
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Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. ~Albert Einstein 


QUOTE (Rockatteer @ Oct 3 2006, 02:53 PM)

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I justt found a Quote I just thought I should share.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
Albert Einstein 

And that relates to this discussion... how?


QUOTE (MEP @ Oct 3 2006, 04:22 PM)


Oh *** I put in the WRONG one sorry. The one I wanted was about not eatting meat.

Here it is: Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.
Albert Einstein 


QUOTE (AbCarter @ Oct 3 2006, 05:41 PM)

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Pete and Mac come out of an Indian food restaurant. I would imagine indian food might have meat in it, but i don't know, since indians do praise cows... i think?


There are lots of Indians (I believe you mean food from the country India here, not something native-American), about 1.1 billion I believe. Hindus are often vegetarian. Not all of them: my Indian pen pal used to eat chicken as a kid. Then there also is a large muslim population. And at least in the Netherlands, they seem to be running most of the restaurants: you can't get pork there, or a proper vegetarian.

Becoming a vegetarian is something you can decide on later in life. My brother used to say: "I'm a vegetarian, but not during dinner". A few years ago he became a vegetarian during dinner too. Though, what he eats most of the time, I can't imagine that is either healthy or tasty.

Maybe it's that way for MacGyver too, deciding later on to becoming a vegetarian, or gradually becoming one (though: beans beaten beyond recognision (favourite Pete quote there) don't sound either healthy or tasteful).


QUOTE (Rockatteer @ Oct 3 2006, 08:28 PM)

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(though: beans beaten beyond recognision (favourite Pete quote there) don't sound either healthy or tasteful).




beans are very healthy for you.


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(though: beans beaten beyond recognision (favourite Pete quote there) don't sound either healthy or tasteful).

beans are very healthy for you.



In this case, we're talking specifically about soy beans beaten beyond recognition to make tofu. Tofu is absolutely tasteless (thank goodness for sauces!) and its healthiness when eaten in great quantities is currently in dispute*. When MacGyver was airing, however, tofu was definitely considered a healthy food and wasn't too common yet.


QUOTE (AbCarter @ Oct 4 2006, 04:40 AM)

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  beans are very healthy for you


When I'm thinking of something beaten beyond recognision, food wise that is, I'm also thinking it has been cooked beyond recognision. Cooked into a mushy pulp (no tastes, no vitamines). Beans you can eat through a straw. *shudder*


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  Beans you can eat through a straw. *shudder* 


I tend to agree with that!!!! I once had a bad experience with tofu....just typing the word makes me cringe....



DONE

Posted by: Macs Lab Rat 6 November 2006 - 12:04 PM
blink.gif clapping.gif Well done Nymphy! That looks like it was a mammoth tasks!

Posted by: MacNymph 6 November 2006 - 12:16 PM
It seemed like a good idea when I started... by the end... not so much. Especially when it got to people quoting other peoples quotes of other people. unsure.gif Yeah.

And I did skip over some offtopic fluffy stuff... like cooking bacon naked or something. blush.gif

Posted by: Amy 6 November 2006 - 02:02 PM
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It seemed like a good idea when I started... by the end... not so much. Especially when it got to people quoting other peoples quotes of other people.  Yeah.


Tell me about it! Sheesh...I think this is the longest one recovered yet!

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And I did skip over some offtopic fluffy stuff... like cooking bacon naked or something.


laugh.gif Um thanks...entertaining as it might have been... tongue.gif

Posted by: MacGyverGrrl 23 November 2006 - 07:10 PM
Thanks for all your hard work recovering those posts. I found them very entertaining. Tofu was a huge fad during the 1980s. You couldn't turn around without it showing up and masquarading as food. I actually tried stir fried bean curd with chinese vegetables--once. It was like eating pieces of a kitchen sponge chopped up and sauteed in brown sauce. Needless to say, tofu dropped off my shopping list, in a hurry.

Indian food is often vegetarian or chicken, lamb or seafood depending on the region where it is prepared. Indian food is characterized by intense flavors built up in layers and some of it can be painfully hot.

Native American food is very regional and depending on the region will have a heavy emphasis on meat. Southwestern Native American food tends to emphasize vegetables since this region is more agricultural in nature.

Some vegans are against using any form of animal products in food, drinks, medicine or clothing to anme just a few. My brother in law is like that. I drew his name in our family Christmas gift exchange and have been reading clothing labels like crazy looking for something made with 100% organic cotton. He will not wear anything made with wool in it. I pointed out to my sister that hsearing doesn't actually hurt the sheep and she just rolled her eyes and shrugged her shoulders. Oh well, each of us is entitled to his or her beliefs.

Some people are lean more heavily to fruits and veggies simply because they like them as many people have already testified to here. Others choose them because of the health benefits. I am currently on a healthy eating kick and have been putting the focus on the plant world. I am definitely getting results, 15 lbs shed in 3 months and down almost 2 sizes in jeans (yeah!). I am doing this because of the health challenges my husband had this past summer and because I need to set a good example for my son.

I personally think that MacGyver is the typical batchelor--its easier to open a bag of leaves than to actually cook a complete balanced meal. Grrl has fond flashbacks to husband's culinary attempts, Cool Whip Chicken anyone?

Posted by: Rockatteer 2 February 2007 - 03:23 AM
This shot is from "Jack in a box" season 3... and thats a chicken leg he's chewing on.

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Posted by: Litteral 14 February 2007 - 11:13 AM
I have seen him eat a lizard or something that he caught when he was with a lady, in the first season. Almost like Crocodile Dundee.

Posted by: Old Fan 14 February 2007 - 05:16 PM
That was from "The Gauntlet"

Mac and Kate Conolly shared an intimate dinner of barbequed lizard whilst on the run from illegal arms dealer Dave Ryerson and General Vasquez.

Kate: "...MacGyver... you don't eat things like that... you call pest control..."

Yum O... rolleyes.gif jeep.gif

Posted by: MacGyverGrrl 15 February 2007 - 05:54 PM
Jungle chicken (BBQ iguana) is a delicacy in Belize. Pass.......

Posted by: Devon636 21 February 2007 - 08:55 AM
Hey All - I just wrote a book with my brother called "MacGyver By the Numbers: A statistical analysis of seasons 1-7" It's on e-bay now, and in it we have a list of everything Mac ever eats on the show and then a seperate category for everything Mac cooks,because they're sometimes different lists. I think MacG is just a health nut until season 7 when Mama Lorraine makes some reference to Mac being a vegitarian.

Posted by: Rockatteer 16 March 2007 - 02:33 PM
yeah but both her and MacGyver kinda laughed after she said it.. which indicates she was joking about it... Also the context of the whole comment was in reference to sacrificing a goat to the gods....

How seriously can you take it?

So I don't believe that instance actually proves anything.

Posted by: Devon636 18 March 2007 - 10:45 AM
QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 17 March 2007 - 10:43 AM)

How seriously can you take it?

Much truth is said in jest... wink.gif
Also, the fact that they are laughing isn't neccessarily indicative that they are laughing because she is JOKING about Mac being a vegetarian, they could also be laughing at the absurdity of her telling a god like PaPa Leggba ANYTHING pedestrian, such as that someone is a vegeterian. (BTW these aren't yelling caps, they're emphasis caps) I'm just teasing, I don't REALLY think Mac ever became fully veg either. But we'll never know for sure...

Posted by: Kate Mackay 21 March 2007 - 04:19 PM
I got the feeling he was a vegetarian . I have still to look at the episodes that he is eating meat . But remember the meal that Murdoc has set for him in " Strictly Business " ? It was very elaborate . And Murdoc TOLD MacGyver that it was vegetarian. It was like MacGyver is a vegetarian and Murdoc knowing it, went to get him all the vegetarian platters he could eat to his content . Then when MacGyver would be filled up from the food, they could get down to the business at hand . That is when Murdoc was going to try to kill MacGyver in order to make it even between them , since MacGyver helped Murdoc with his ( supposed ) sister . ( I say " supposed " since in another area of this forum that question came up as to was Ashton Murdoc's sister. But we won't go into that , here and now .)
Anyway, my point being , I would say that I have that feeling MacGyver is a vegetarian . He has a very healthy way of eating . And I have as yet to see an episode that he ate meat .

Sincerely,
Katey Mackay

Posted by: Devon636 21 March 2007 - 04:29 PM
He eats meat so many times...but i can see how you would be under the impression that he's a vegeterian smile.gif He's just a health concious person that sometimes eats meat. But by the end of season 7, it's a bit ambiguous (see above). Poor Mac...he lived in the days before Boca Burgers were sold at every Costco. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Devon636 21 March 2007 - 04:40 PM
OK... Mac's Carnivorous Ingestions...

-Some unidentifiable meat out of a pot (somewhere season 1 i think?)
-an egg roll (most, though not all, have meat)
-roasted lamb sanwich
-stew fixed by Pete (perhaps contained meat)
-trout
-some meat on a skewer in Thailand
-LIZARD
-prison chicken (I got it Rock wink.gif )

Posted by: Devon636 21 March 2007 - 05:10 PM
That is so right Pete would just love some hearty beef stew! biggrin.gif I just love Pete! Didn't Mac make some comment one time about Pete sticking on a diet? See I love Pete, he has real human struggles just like the rest of us! laugh.gif

Posted by: MEP 21 March 2007 - 05:14 PM
QUOTE (Devon636 @ 21 March 2007 - 10:20 PM)
That is so right Pete would just love some hearty beef stew! biggrin.gif I just love Pete! Didn't Mac make some comment one time about Pete sticking on a diet? See I love Pete, he has real human struggles just like the rest of us!  laugh.gif

God I would hate to see that Pete's cholesterol level is surprise.gif

Posted by: Devon636 21 March 2007 - 05:21 PM
QUOTE (MEP @ 22 March 2007 - 01:24 PM)
QUOTE (Devon636 @ 21 March 2007 - 10:20 PM)
That is so right Pete would just love some hearty beef stew! biggrin.gif I just love Pete! Didn't Mac make some comment one time about Pete sticking on a diet? See I love Pete, he has real human struggles just like the rest of us!  laugh.gif

God I would hate to see that Pete's colesstral leve is surprise.gif

roller.gif Ha like thru the roof! roller.gif Remember the time when Pete broke his leg and Mac made some like tofu casserole, and Pete wanted to send him out for chinese and ice cream instead? Pete, you are my HERO! laugh.gif

Posted by: MEP 21 March 2007 - 05:39 PM
QUOTE (Devon636 @ 21 March 2007 - 10:31 PM)
roller.gif Ha like thru the roof! roller.gif Remember the time when Pete broke his leg and Mac made some like tofu casserole, and Pete wanted to send him out for chinese and ice cream instead? Pete, you are my HERO! laugh.gif

Thatís kina funny, today on a Boston Stationís News there was a report that MickyDís is better for you than Chinese food. blink.gif

Posted by: Rockatteer 21 March 2007 - 05:52 PM
blink.gif how did they come to that conclusion?

MacD isn't even real food.. it's so processed that it never goes moldy.

Posted by: Lothithil 22 March 2007 - 06:25 AM
Ah, they're beating around about high sodium and saturated fats... which anyone with half a brain knows is something to be considered with any foods that are fried and prepared... here's one link at yahoo: http://health.yahoo.com/news/173241

I get weary of the food scare games. yawn.gif These folks would have us eating bark, bugs, lizards, and leaves if they had their way... and they'd still be griping about the high fat-content of bugs with wings vs. bugs without wings, or whatever. happy.gif

I'm sure that someone must have been paid a nifty bundle to say that MickyD's is healther... tell me--do I LOOK like I'm stupid??

*calmly climbs down from her soapbox and melts into the crowd*

Posted by: MEP 22 March 2007 - 07:05 AM
Its a 20 year old Report and they were talking about how much SALT goes in to Chinese.... here in the US..... YEA I KNOW it also CHINES RESTAURANT home made would be that best biggrin.gif

Posted by: Devon636 22 March 2007 - 09:04 AM
QUOTE (Lothithil @ 23 March 2007 - 02:35 AM)

I get weary of the food scare games. yawn.gif These folks would have us eating bark, bugs, lizards, and leaves if they had their way... and they'd still be griping about the high fat-content of bugs with wings vs. bugs without wings, or whatever. happy.gif


Ya me too. Though I'm not a huge fan of McD's, what with their marketing junk to children, etc. BUT to their credit, they do have things on the menu that even health-aware people can eat too.

You can get a diet coke, black coffee, and a plain green salad w/ no dressing. You can eat on it for a whole hour as you visit with friends or whatever, and at the end of the time you feel like you have been just eating forever. Also, just the smell of cheeseburgers actually tricks your brain into thinking you have eaten them. ALSO the caffiene overload dulls your appetite- scientifically proven. For anyone trying not to go off their diet I swear this works. And you can still join your friends at McD's!

I don't know what the healthy chinese equivalent of this would be...prob. coffee, diet coke and hot and sour soup. Eating out it's hard to be good...MacGyver knows this! Remember that time when he ordered a salad at that wild game restaurant in "The Endangered"? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Posted by: MacNymph 22 March 2007 - 10:56 AM
w00t.gif How and the heck did this thread get on to McDonalds?


Mmmmmmm.... Strawberry Shake. huh.gif oops blush.gif

(strawberry shake... 93 ingredients, not one of which is strawberries)

Posted by: Rockatteer 22 March 2007 - 12:51 PM
QUOTE (Kate MacKay)
He has a very healthy way of eating . And I have as yet to see an episode that he ate meat .


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And lets not forget the Gauntlet, where he eats lizard.

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Posted by: Kate Mackay 25 March 2007 - 05:07 PM
Hi Rocky:

OKAY, Okay , I gotcha on that . I am guilty as charged that he does eat meat . " The Gauntlet " is the perfect example. I thank you for posting those pics to show me . Thank you very much .

Sincerely,
Kate Mackay

Posted by: MacGyverGod 26 March 2007 - 07:01 AM
Good quality screenshots.

Posted by: MEP 26 March 2007 - 03:40 PM
QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ 26 March 2007 - 12:11 PM)
Good quality screenshots.

MG is that all you care about tongue.gif

but those are good shoots.

Posted by: MacGyverGod 27 March 2007 - 07:59 AM
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MG is that all you care about

And the food looks good too. But I'm not so fond anymore at broiled chicken.
Lizzard is however something I never tried.

Posted by: Astra 27 March 2007 - 11:32 AM
I would have tried the lizard! I'm always for trying everything. If I had been in the woods with Mac I wouldn't have gone "Eewww!!" about it.

Posted by: MEP 27 March 2007 - 08:35 PM
MG you should know by now I need to pick on you form time to time. tongue.gif

Astra if I was in the woods with Mac I also would not be going EEWWW but.......






Houston we have a problem my brain has gone gutter. headbutt.gif

Posted by: trtlsoup 24 July 2007 - 12:18 PM
Admin note:This topic was moved from the http://www.macgyveronline.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3594

Was it actually stated that MacGyver was a vegetarian? Or just a health food nut? Because I'm seeing his eating habits are all over the place. unsure.gif

I know he's not a vegan... So,

"What is a Vegetarian?"

Vegetarians do not eat meat, fish, and poultry. Vegans are vegetarians who abstain from eating or using all animal products, including milk, cheese, other dairy items, eggs, wool, silk, and leather. Among the many reasons for being a vegetarian are health, ecological, and religious concerns, dislike of meat, compassion for animals, belief in non-violence, and economics. The American Dietetic Association has affirmed that a vegetarian diet can meet all known nutrient needs. The key to a healthy vegetarian diet, as with any other diet, is to eat a wide variety of foods, including fruits, vegetables, plenty of leafy greens, whole grain products, nuts, seeds, and legumes.

http://www.vrg.org/index.htm
(That kinda sounds like the definition of Veganism) huh.gif

Veganism (also strict or pure vegetarianism) is a philosophy and lifestyle that seeks to exclude the use of animals for food, clothing, or any other purpose. Vegans do not use or consume animal products of any kind. The most popular reasons for becoming a vegan are concerns for animal rights, the environment, or human health, and spiritual or religious concerns. Of particular concern are the practices involved in factory farming and animal testing, and the intensive use of land and other resources required for animal farming.

That's from Wikipedia... not always correct, but this sounds right on the money for a description.

Posted by: Rockatteer 24 July 2007 - 12:48 PM
Heres the answer I've just added to our http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/faq.html

MacGyver has never claimed to be any specific kind of food consumer.

The only time vegetarian was ever implied was at the end of Walking Dead? When Mama Lorraine tells MacGyver that she told the gods he was Vegetarian so he wouldn't have to sacrifice a goat to them.

As you rightly pointed out, just listing his eating habits from the episodes proves that he is definitely a healthy eater, who leans towards the vegetarian foods, but doesnít seem to have an issue eating white meats. (some vegetarians do include white meats in their diets)

In http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/faq.html on this topic itís been suggested that over time MacGyverís eating habits changed. This is a very likely scenario. We see him eating more meat in the earlier episodes, and then as we move through the seasons his eating gets healthier and we see him eating salads and vegetarian type foods.

We know the character of MacGyver changed through the 7 year show, so it would make sense that his eating habits would follow suit and change as well.

Posted by: trtlsoup 24 July 2007 - 01:16 PM
Good point.

I think also vegetarianism has changed over the years... (I don't know anything about it... but a friend was a vegetarian and her eating habits didn't seem so strict when was a teen) Hmmm... hmm.bmp

---

Ahhh, just read the FAQ again, and working on the "Mac a vegetarian?" thread.

Thanks Rocky! notworthy.gif

Posted by: MacNymph 24 July 2007 - 02:07 PM
At some point Mac said coffee didn't sit right in his stomach. Or someone said it about him. Maybe he's diet changed with age due to intestinal problems. Maybe the man had ulcers. Or high blood pressure. Or high cholesterol and his doctor told him to try and eat more healthy.

"Harry used to say 'Eatin healthy never hurt anybody.'"

Posted by: MacGirl 24 July 2007 - 07:15 PM
QUOTE (MacNymph @ 22 March 2007 - 04:06 PM)
w00t.gif How and the heck did this thread get on to McDonalds?†


Mmmmmmm.... Strawberry Shake.† huh.gif oops† blush.gif

(strawberry shake... 93 ingredients, not one of which is strawberries)

Yep, it's true. Same goes for Dairy Queen.

It should actually be called Soy Queen 'cause that's what it is. And soy is actually NOT that good for you, contrary to popular belief! (It's high in plant estrogens... which means an increased risk of breast cancer for us gals.)

Though I WILL give DQ credit for using real strawberries! (I worked at DQ for awhile, so I quickly learned which of their ingredients are the real thing and which are not. I also heard about the soy thing from a friend of my mom's who is a psychiatrist and an expert on nutrition, particularly as it affects the brain.)

Posted by: Janet Marie 2 September 2007 - 12:35 PM
From what RDA puts on his website, I think in real life he is somewhat of a vegetarian. I think its great that an individual is able to do this. I think he displays this in many of his episodes. Janet Marie


Posted by: trtlsoup 3 September 2007 - 07:31 AM
QUOTE (Janet Marie @ 2 September 2007 - 05:10 PM)
From what RDA puts on his website, I think in real life he is somewhat of a vegetarian. I think its great that an individual is able to do this. I think he displays this in many of his episodes.  Janet Marie

Not so much a vegeterian as eating healthy. I can't remember the interview, but he was asked if he was a vegetarian, and he said no. *shrug* Although the meal he described sounded awfully GOOD! happy.gif

Posted by: MacBeth 4 September 2007 - 12:34 PM
I finally wandered through this thread -- waay back in its first incarnation, someone asked about this:

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Someone wrote a great short story in which the main character creates a machine that can render all sound audible to the human ear. One day, he tests his machine in a park where a gardner is pruning. The inventor hears the plants shriek as they're cut. Knowing that even plants feel pain, the inventor slowly succumbs to maddness. Great story, wish I could find it again!

The story is titled "The Sound Machine", and it's by Roald Dahl. Dahl is primarily known now for being the author of the Willy Wonka stories and "James and the Giant Peach" -- his adult fiction, on the other hand, is pretty demented. (Although I love it, personally.)

Posted by: MacsChick 4 September 2007 - 06:09 PM
Dahl is amazing!

Posted by: MacGyver 4 September 2007 - 06:15 PM
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Dahl is primarily known now for being the author of the Willy Wonka stories and "James and the Giant Peach"


And don't forget "George's Marvelous Medicine"- our teacher read that to us in the 3rd. grade! Great book! And I also later read "The BFG"- that's another good one. Roald Dalhl's also got an autobiography called "Boy" that's really cool too. smile.gif


Posted by: Sheepy 5 September 2007 - 01:31 AM
Did MacGyver ever litterally claimed to be a vegetarian?
I've always thought he was not noticing the inconsitencies (how on earth is this word spelled) when he ate lizard or chicken.

Posted by: Rockatteer 5 September 2007 - 02:04 AM
MacGyver has never claimed to be any specific kind of food consumer.

The only time vegetarian was ever mentioned was at the end of Walking Dead? When Mama Lorraine tells MacGyver that she told the gods he was Vegetarian so he wouldn't have to sacrifice a goat to them.

Listing his eating habits from the episodes proves that he is definitely a healthy eater, who leans towards the vegetarian type foods, but doesnít seem to have an issue eating white meats. (some vegetarians do include white meats in their diets, so this doesnít prove anything either)

In previous discussions on this topic itís been suggested that over time MacGyverís eating habits changed. This is probably the most likely scenario. We see him eating more meat in the earlier episodes, and then as we move through the seasons his eating gets healthier and we see him eating salads and vegetarian type foods.

We know the character of MacGyver changed through the 7 year show, so it would make sense that his eating habits could follow suit and change as well.

Posted by: Mac 5 September 2007 - 02:53 AM
QUOTE (MacBeth @ 4 September 2007 - 05:09 PM)
The story is titled "The Sound Machine", and it's by Roald Dahl.

Thank you!

I'm not surprised that it's by Roald Dahl, sounds like his kind of story! I love his books.

Mac

Posted by: Mac 5 September 2007 - 02:57 AM
QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 5 September 2007 - 06:39 AM)
MacGyver has never claimed to be any specific kind of food consumer. (snip)

Listing his eating habits from the episodes proves that he is definitely a healthy eater, who leans towards the vegetarian type foods, but doesnít seem to have an issue eating white meats. (snip)

In previous discussions on this topic itís been suggested that over time MacGyverís eating habits changed.

Rocky said it all. biggrin.gif Watching MacGyver, I actually see my own eating habits and evolution thereof. I can't believe the number of people who call me a 'vegetarian' when I happily chow down on fish and seafood (and the once every three or four years odd bite of chicken or reptile). Coffee's something I used to have everyday but almost never have now because aging has affected my digestive system.

So, all that to say that we can garner a lot about Mac's eating habits from the show, but it'd be nonsensical to pin a label on him. Some people are clearcut vegetarians and vegans, some not so much. Mac obviously enjoys a healthy, varied diet that works for him.

'the other Mac'


Posted by: Sheepy 5 September 2007 - 06:33 AM
Thanks Rock! I've been going over all episodes trying to find out where they mentioned he was a veggie (I always got distracted from my mission)


Posted by: MacBeth 5 September 2007 - 11:58 AM
I made my first Californian friends in the early 1980's, in college; at the time, there was an easily identifiable subspecies, the Californian Health Food Nut. When the series came out and that aspect of the character started to be developed, I simply assumed that Mac was intended to be one. It seemed to be part of the overall theme of MacGyver being good-as-James-Bond-but-really-the-opposite: didn't drink or smoke, didn't drive a sports car or carry a gun, said ouch when hit, didn't need to chase the girls biggrin.gif , fixed his own meals, ate healthy food when he had the chance to choose and ate whatever was available when the pickings were slim.

It really contributed to the feeling that the character was grounded in reality and human vulnerability -- and it was a good theme for comic moments, especially between MacGyver and Pete.

Posted by: lucky charley 10 August 2008 - 02:41 PM
I don't think MacGyver is a vegetarian he ate lizard in the episode the guntlet
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Posted by: lucky charley 10 August 2008 - 02:47 PM
this should be proof enough that mac is just a healthy eater I got this from MacGyver online MacGyvers menu
FOOD


EPISODE
Alfalfa sprout sandwich Eraser
Apple Heist
Last Stand
A prisoner of Conscience
total of 3 occasions up to--)
Bayou Blackened Red Fish (burnt) Family Matter
Bean curd Eraser
Bread Children of Light (opens for Mei Jan)
The Stringer (gives to Sam)
Broiled Chicken (refered to eating as a child) Golden Triangle
Carrot Target MacGyver (opening gambit)
Cheeseburgers (asked if anyone wanted to order) Family Matter
Chewing gum Hellfire
Chicken - Phillipe's Jack in the Box
Chili Thief of Budapest
Chinese food, egg rolls in Out in the Cold.
Chocolate bar Pilot, Bushmaster
Chocolate ice cream Thief
Coffee Pilot
Last Stand
Twice Stung
Silent World
total of 7 occasions up to--)
Eggnogg (non-alcoholic) Phoenix under Siege
Egg roll Enemy Within
Out in the Cold
Second chance
Fish Final Approach
Ghost ship
Target MacGyver
Ginger ale The Eraser
h'orderve The Heist - during the 'exhibition scene'
Indian food Silent World
Lizard The Gauntlet
Milk Slow Death
The Eraser
Split Dicision (was all drunk by Earl Dent)
Mountain Trout with wild mushrooms and pinenuts Final Approach
Orange Runners
The Widowmaker
Orange juice Prodigal
Runners
Pan cakes
"my world famous" - cooked by MacGyver Runners
Pizza -Hawaiian with pineapple The Wall. (Didn't eat it though)
Popcorn Deadly Silents & Soft touch
Popsicle (orange flavor) The Secret of Parker House.
Prison food The Escape
ProteÔn shake The Negotiator
Rations (Jerky &bread) Bushmaster
Rattlesnake (that takes care of lunch!) Final Approach
Red wine (didn't like it though) The Heist
Roast lamb sandwich Slow Death
Roast lizard The Gauntlet
Salad Runners
Sandwich - unknown type food (Phil's Diner) DOA:MacGyver
Salad (with housedressing) The Endangered.
Smoothie
(oj, strawberries, another berry, banannas,protien powder) The Stringer
Soda/cola of some kind Prodigal
Soup (unknown flavour) Harry's Will.
Stew Trumbo's world (opening gambit)
Strawberries GX-1
Stuffed olives The Eraser
Tea (hot) stringer
Tofu Out in the Cold (cooked)
The Stringer (refered to by Sam)
Tomato juice Heist
High Control
Trail mix GX-1
Virgin Mary w/ celery tomato juice with tobasco) The Heist
Water Trial of tears
Yogurt The Eraser, Runners (in fridge)
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Posted by: MacBeth 10 August 2008 - 07:06 PM
Um, Charley, this is MacGyver Online -- I believe that's our own list, which was compiled by the people on this forum: especially Lothithil, who has been doing comprehensive lists by season.

Speaking of which, Lothi, we still need your lists for the last two seasons! There was a great kitchen scene in "The Stringer", but I don't remember him eating anything else that season except for popcorn in "Deadly Silents".

Beth

Posted by: Lothithil 10 August 2008 - 07:26 PM
*looks up guiltily from her Stargate marathon*

Oh! I guess I better get back to work! wink.gif

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Posted by: lucky charley 14 August 2008 - 12:34 PM
WHATS WITH THE MOUSE!



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Posted by: MacDriver 14 August 2008 - 01:35 PM
Even if he did have "convictions" about meat consumption, I think he was down-to-earth about it enough to eat meat when he was in the wild and had to survive, or when he was in company that would've felt awkward. My best friend's gf is a vegetarian, and there's definitely tension when we all BBQ. A lot of people just try to avoid meat as much as they can, unlike some flaming vegetarians who would dramatically starve to death before they'd eat meat to survive. Obviously, Mac wasn't like that.

Posted by: Rockatteer 14 August 2008 - 01:44 PM
mouse?

Posted by: Lothithil 14 August 2008 - 02:27 PM
QUOTE (Rocky)
mouse?

I think he's referring to this...
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... what those in 'the business' call a "wild-take" LOL! happy.gif

Posted by: MacNymph 2 September 2008 - 11:22 AM
vegetarian.. native american for bad hunter

Not our Mac happy.gif

Posted by: Lothithil 2 September 2008 - 11:27 AM
QUOTE (MacNymph @ 2 September 2008 - 01:22 PM)
vegetarian.. native american for bad hunter

Not our Mac happy.gif

laugh.gif Very true!

Posted by: Hideair 4 September 2008 - 02:02 PM
I know this thread is basically dead, however, I came across it by accident and felt the need to correct some statements.

It has been stated multiple times that the mention of Mac being a vegetarian was only mentioned at the end of the walking dead.

In "Strictly Business" (hope that is the right episode) when Murdoc prepares Mac his last meal (with the cherub and bow/arrow on the table).

Mac walks in and Murdoc points to the huge meals with his hand out and asks: "Do you like it?" Murdoc proceeds to thank Mac for saving his sister and then says:

"Don't look so grim, sit down and try the food, it's vegetarian."

The fact the writers took the time to purposefully point this out twice in a very obvious way leads me to believe Mac is indeed a vegetarian, but for health reasons and that he is sensible about it and would eat meat to save his life or to not be overly rude.

Posted by: Rockatteer 4 September 2008 - 02:21 PM
Hi Hideair, welcome to the site.

QUOTE (Hideair)
The fact the writers took the time to purposefully point this out twice in a very obvious way leads me to believe Mac is indeed a vegetarian, but for health reasons and that he is sensible about it and would eat meat to save his life or to not be overly rude.

Isn't that just another way of saying he's a healthy eater? He chooses non-meat food whenever possible, but if the circumstances dictate or require it, he'll still eat and probably enjoy a well cooked piece of meat.

And lets not forget that in the episode Jack in the Box, he's eating a leg of chicken and agrees that it was good. smile.gif

I think the term vegetarian has changed in meaning from what it use to be as well, which doesn't help us any. back in the 80's and 90's it was more of a loose term to refer to "healthy eaters" who didn't eat red meat, but now with the change in eating habits and food types the general meaning has tightened up. So the problem become that we're applying the modern meaning to an old TV show.



Posted by: MacBeth 4 September 2008 - 06:02 PM
QUOTE (Rocky)
I think the term vegetarian has changed in meaning from what it use to be as well, which doesn't help us any. back in the 80's and 90's it was more of a loose term to refer to "healthy eaters" who didn't eat red meat, but now with the change in eating habits and food types the general meaning has tightened up. So the problem become that we're applying the modern meaning to an old TV show.

I have to politely differ with that -- speaking as someone who was hanging out with Californians and other odd types at that time: no, the meaning and usage of the word has not changed, except insofar as more people now identify themselves as sub-types. Back then, it meant you didn't eat meat, including no fish. I don't remember anyone in the US using the term "vegan" until the mid-90's, but ovo-lacto was a recognised sub-type long before then.

Hideair, if you look through more of the threads you'll find more information we've collected on Mac's eating habits, including the fact that they changed over time. Lothi has been compiling a http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/food.html.

Mac's behaviour fit the very common type of the California Health Food Nut, a well-established species with a less rigid diet than the full-blown vegetarians. biggrin.gif

Posted by: MacGyver and Magnum, pi 9 November 2009 - 06:28 PM
I believe that MacGyver only ate meat when the situation required him to. Otherwise he would eat veggies.

Posted by: MacsChick 10 November 2009 - 07:09 PM
His diet sounds similar to mine--mostly vegetarian, eating meat only on occasion.

Posted by: MacDriver 13 November 2009 - 09:40 AM
QUOTE (MEP @ 23 March 2007 - 07:17 AM)
QUOTE (MacNymph @ 22 March 2007 - 04:06 PM)
w00t.gif How and the heck did this thread get on to McDonalds? 


Mmmmmmm.... Strawberry Shake.  huh.gif oops  blush.gif

(strawberry shake... 93 ingredients, not one of which is strawberries)

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Ahahaha- best use of a smiley I've seen in quite some time, well played laugh.gif

Posted by: Mac Jackson 13 November 2009 - 01:49 PM
I always had a problem with that line by Mama Loraine. I believe she meant it as "I told my God's that you were a vegitarian even though you're not." Thus, making it a funny comment. Murdoc's comment could have been him taking a guess on MacGyver since he's known to eat healthy.

I truely think MacGyver, like me, tries to eat healthy whenever possible but has a nice burger,steak, chicken when he gets a craving. i think he's practical and knows that the body tells you things for a reason. As long as he typically takes the healthy route then he's doing fine. Besides, a little bit of red meat is healthy. Everything in it's proper dose right?
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Posted by: MacGyver and Magnum, pi 13 November 2009 - 07:25 PM
This forum has been dead for a while.

Posted by: Rockatteer 13 November 2009 - 07:59 PM
QUOTE (MacGyver and Magnum, pi @ 14 November 2009 - 04:25 PM)
This forum has been dead for a while.

Huh? unsure.gif

Posted by: MacDriver 13 November 2009 - 10:32 PM
QUOTE (MacGyver and Magnum, pi @ 14 November 2009 - 03:25 PM)
This forum has been dead for a while.

Troll? haha, I think he means thread. Or at least, I hope so.

As for the vegetarianism, I agree that it seems highly probable that he ate very healthy but was not actually a vegetarianism. Come to think of it, I think I've made this point before. Even if he were supposed to have been a vegetarian or semi-vegetarian, he still was not the bleeding heart type that in dire circumstance would still refuse meat, i.e., he and Kate Connoly and the lizard. Further, he seems like the type who would eat something if it were extended to him by someone else rather than refusing it. Which, I personally agree with, if it's already dead, then not consuming it really isn't going to reverse that.
I try to eat healthy and have as many vegetarian meals as possible but it is definitely difficult. Society is structured in a way that makes it seem unavoidable to eat meat. Few people really stop and question the ethics of it or the health effects. I'll not go into why I think it is a good idea for quite a few reasons, but I will say Mac exhibited a social conscience about everything else, and I'm sure animal consumption was something we was self-aware of. I also can relate, however, to the fact that it is a tough act to pull to be exclusively vegetarian, and maybe not entirely healthy if done wrong.

Posted by: Miasma 16 November 2009 - 11:57 AM
To me, it's odd to think of Mac as NOT being vegetarian. He clearly cares a lot about animals, so he seems like the type who would be appalled by the animal abuse that goes on in the food industry, and would probably do his best to avoid supporting it by buying the food. That's why a lot of people become vegetarian. It's not all about eating healthy. My girlfriend, for example, is vegetarian because it goes against her conscience to feel like she's supporting an industry that abuses animals. It's not really about her health, as much as it is about her love for animals, and I can imagine Mac feeling the same way.

The lizard that he ate with Kate is a bit different for two reasons:

1. He killed the lizard himself. It wasn't like buying a burger and wondering how badly the cow was treated before it became a burger. Again, it's similar with my girlfriend-- although she personally wouldn't want to kill an animal, she would feel better doing that, knowing the animal died quickly and painlessly, rather than thinking it was badly abused in a slaughterhouse somewhere.

2. More importantly-- That scene was during the first season, and Mac wasn't QUITE as "perfect" he was in later seasons. He had a bit more edge and a bit more of a devil-may-care attitude.


Posted by: sean 1 January 2010 - 04:04 PM
if you watch every episode, you definitely get the impression he was a vegetarian. whether it be the other characters offering him vegetarian fare, like already mentioned above, or when mac was layed up in the house boat in some episode and pete offered to go get him some "tofu", there is always bean curd in his fridge, he eats sprout sandwiches, or a piece of fruit, eggs, smoothie shakes, pizza.

he never made a meat dish for himself, other than survival episodes, but it appeared that he would eat it abroad - like in the thailand episode with colton finding out he has a kid, mac ate some sort of street food that obviously is meat on a stick - or if somebody went out of their way to make it for him.

he was a vegetarian, but not a strict one. he was realistic about it and adapted to his environment when needed.

Posted by: Rockatteer 1 January 2010 - 06:24 PM
QUOTE (sean @ 2 January 2010 - 01:04 PM)
he was a vegetarian, but not a strict one. he was realistic about it and adapted to his environment when needed.

Isn't that just another way of saying he was a healthy eater rather than being an actual vegetarian?

Posted by: sean 1 January 2010 - 07:31 PM
QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 2 January 2010 - 02:24 PM)
QUOTE (sean @ 2 January 2010 - 01:04 PM)
he was a vegetarian, but not a strict one. he was realistic about it and adapted to his environment when needed.

Isn't that just another way of saying he was a healthy eater?

sure, i guess. he was obviously a health nut.

is it possible to be a vegetarian but occasionally eat meat? as in macs case when he was eating lizard with kate out in the jungle? i think it is, like i said he wasnt strict, it appeared he was vegetarian about 99% of the time in the show.

anybody who travels a lot knows what it can do to your diet, seeing as mac was traveling all the time there is almost no way he could be choosy with his food on the road. like in the pic you posted on page 1 of him eating a chicken wing, IN JAIL, in 'Jack in the Box' episode. his choice there is to either starve or eat meat.

he appears to at least be a full on vegetarian when at home with his tofu, bean curd, and smoothie shakes.

Posted by: Rockatteer 1 January 2010 - 07:51 PM
QUOTE (sean @ 2 January 2010 - 04:31 PM)
is it possible to be a vegetarian but occasionally eat meat?

I don't know for sure, but I always thought vegetarians were quite strict about not eating meat; Like they refused to eat it no matter what, and isn't there usually something about killing and eating animals mixed in with vegetarianism? Clearly MacGyver had no problem with doing that when he had to. laugh.gif

I think we can all agree that he certainly wasn't a "true" or strict vegetarian, which is why I prefer to say he was just a healthy eater. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said he was realistic. He choose not to eat meat when he had the choice, but had no problem catching food (meat) to eat while camping or any other situation where vegetarian wasn't really an option.

Interesting side note:
The kinds of meat caught and eaten while camping/hiking (fish,small lizards etc) are probably the healthiest forms of meat you can get - Low fat, high protein (fish is also high in Omega oils which are very good for you. So MacGyver would be in a no lose situation. wink.gif

Posted by: Mac Jackson 2 January 2010 - 10:45 AM
I agree with you Rocky. It would be inaccurate to call him a vegitarian under any definition. Healthy eater? Absolutely! I think too many people want to be called a vegitarian because they think it's the cool thing to be but don't live by the definition. I think MacGyver would never consider himself one. I could picture him calling himself a "vegitarian want to be" or a "vegitarian in training". MacG.gif

Posted by: Geekgirl 2 January 2010 - 11:12 AM
Doesn't Mac in Family Matters attempt to make a Bayou Blackened Catfish or something but manages to burn it horribly and then mentions take-out Burgers? I think Mac ate sensibly and his tastes do change, much like anyone's does. I have weeks where red meat doens't do much for me and I'll eat tofu and chicken instead. I like a wide variety of foods and I believe Mac does as well. I know in Silent World, he took Pete out for Indian and that could be vegetarian or have meat (chicken/goat/lamb). Just my 2 cents worth.

Posted by: Traveller 3 January 2010 - 01:58 AM
Just because people in the series call Mac a vegetarian (and in fact only Mama Lorraine calls him that, Murdoc just serves a veggie dinner) doesn't mean MacGyver is one. Watching MacGyver episodes, I never thought of him as a vegetarian.

It wasn't until I stumbled upon this thread I found out there is a lot of debate on the issue. What I don't understand is why. Mac is, as Rockatteer states, a healthy eater, and a practical one at that: when he has to survive he kills and eats bush meat. And yep, I agree with Rock, wild animals are the most healthy. If it were possible, I would only eat those. It's the best organic food you can imagine. The animals have lived freely, and are not manipulated in any way to make them bigger/fatter etc.

By the way, in various parts of the world I have eaten snake, rat, alligator, lizard (well, iguana, which I hated because I adore those animals, but it would have been rude not to eat it, it was specially caught and prepared for me) and they all tasted like chicken.

Posted by: Rockatteer 3 January 2010 - 02:28 AM
QUOTE (Traveller @ 3 January 2010 - 10:58 PM)
By the way, in various parts of the world I have eaten snake, rat, alligator, lizard (well, iguana, which I hated because I adore those animals, but it would have been rude not to eat it, it was specially caught and prepared for me) and they all tasted like chicken.

roller.gif Everything tastes like chicken! laugh.gif

QUOTE
Watching MacGyver episodes, I never thought of him as a vegetarian.

It wasn't until I stumbled upon this thread I found out there is a lot of debate on the issue. What I don't understand is why

I think the whole debate stems from Mama Lorraine's comment in walking dead combined with the fact that we do see or hear about him eating a lot of vegetarian type food, and a quick look through the http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/food.html does show a tendency towards that kind of food, but it also shows that he does eat meat sometimes, which makes it hard to call him a vegetarian. laugh.gif

Posted by: Traveller 3 January 2010 - 05:29 AM
QUOTE
Everything tastes like chicken!



Hahaha! Even chicken!



Posted by: Geekgirl 3 January 2010 - 06:43 PM
"Everything tastes like Chicken..."

When I had alligator I thought it tasted more like pork in one bite but chicken in another bite...wonder if it depends on the part of the animal you are eating, kinda like dark meat vs white meat?

Oh well...may have to make a return trip to test the hypothosis.

Posted by: sean 5 January 2010 - 08:19 PM
yeah, i hear what you guys are saying. i just always got the impression that he was actually a vegetarian. i guess when you watch a show as a young kid those first impressions stick with you.

it does seem as though they tried to make him one, but like all things in the show, sometimes they weren't very consistent, i doubt there is some in depth writing behind his eating habits.

so healthy eater with vegetarian tendancies?

oh and he was born in minnesota, so he must have done lots of fishing in all those lakes - catching fish with gum wrappers?

Posted by: viki78 13 July 2011 - 01:57 AM
I have seen him eat a lizard or something that he caught when he was with a lady, in the first season. Almost like Crocodile Dundee.

Posted by: Beachbead 13 July 2011 - 07:51 AM
When hes at home he is a vegeterian but when hes forest or at some ones house hes not, maybe becuase he doesn't want to seem he is pickie.

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 8 December 2012 - 05:20 PM
Just added a poll to this topic so we can get a gauge of what the majority opinion is on this.

Don't forget to post and tell us your thoughts also. This is an interesting aspect of the character and everyone seems ot have their own ideas about it, so tell us yours.

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Posted by: Jediferret 8 December 2012 - 06:04 PM
I voted he's a healthy eater. lol Just because his eating habits are so inconsistent.

I always just figured RDA was a healthy eater, so he incorporated that into Mac's character. Seeing as Mac was a "role model", that would be something of some importance to the show.

Mac seems to be a fairly decent cook as well. I wouldn't mind trying his tofu casserole or his whole wheat banana pancakes. smile.gif

The only time I ever made a face at his eating habits was in Negotiator when he was making that protein shake with the raw egg whites. I found it kinda funny that he drinks straight from the blender as well. XD

Silly Mac...

Man was RDA in great shape though. Holy cow, he hardly had any fat on his body what so ever. lol

Posted by: MacGyverGod 9 December 2012 - 02:13 AM
I voted healthy eater too. Might be an interesting question to ask him if he likes meat or fish better? At some points I'd say he likes fish over meat but I can imagine that after a full day of hiking in the forrest he prefers meat. Nothing beats good steak with french fries. biggrin.gif

Posted by: KiwiTek 9 December 2012 - 03:18 AM
QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ 9 December 2012 - 11:16 PM)
I voted healthy eater too. Might be an interesting question to ask him if he likes meat or fish better? At some points I'd say he likes fish over meat but I can imagine that after a full day of hiking in the forrest he prefers meat. Nothing beats  good steak with french fries.  biggrin.gif

Fish is meat. laugh.gif

Do you mean red meat vs. white meat?

I don't think MacGyver would actually want either sorts of meat if he could help it. After a day of hiking he'd be into healthy vegetarian protein food. Something light and nourishing.


Posted by: Maclover 17 October 2015 - 08:18 AM
I think Mac was just a healthy eater, but like most survivalist type people I think when the chips were down he would eat whatever was going to ensure that he had the energy to do what was required of him. Mind you, I've been inspired and I am trying a healthier diet myself - less caffeine (I am something of a coffee nut, but have got some decaf tea and some fruit teas as an alternative), less meat (just for health rather than for ethical reasons), less white flour products, I am going to try and get some brown rice and some cous-cous/bulgar wheat for salads.

However, vegetarianism aside, another thing I wondered about Mac was did he like sweet things? In at least one episode we see him eating an ice-cream - chocolate? Did he indulge a sweet tooth at other times? NB. I'm still only half-way through series 3.

Posted by: Barry Rowland 18 October 2015 - 03:03 AM
We knocked off the red meat almost 20 years ago, and we don't miss it either. I really enjoy poultry and fish and find it doesn't mess with my system the way beef (and pork) did. I really wish I could go the whole way and go veggie but the willpower just isn't there. Mac's an inspiration to me but I'm not there yet!

Posted by: Jediferret 18 October 2015 - 05:53 AM
There's no doubt that MacGyver liked to eat. Through out the series, he can be seen eating, or snacking on all kinds of things.

I hear ya Barry. I actually don't eat a lot of red meat anymore. I practically cut it out of my diet. I still eat a lot of poultry. I'd go full-out vegan/vegetarian, but I grew up in a very meat and potatoes family. Old habits die hard. But, I've gotten better... smile.gif

Edit: I'm a terrible human being... XD

Posted by: Joe SAKic 18 October 2015 - 06:10 AM
There was sort of an implied lean towards vegetarianism, I think. Not so conducive to his lifestyle though. At the end of the day, you and only you should know the right combination of nutrients to sustain your cellular functions, energy levels, and a healthy & level thought process.

Posted by: MacGyverGod 18 October 2015 - 09:08 AM
Aren't we being led to believe Mac is a vegetarian because Murdoc explicitly told the food in Strictly Business was vegetarian? As if it was to show how well Murdoc knows MacGyver.

I do believe Mac has his idea on junkfood --> Jerico Games. But he always seemed in for pizza; The Wish Child, Easy Target... and even cheese burgers in Family Matter.

I think Mac will eat what is necessary to stay healthy and strong. And I don't think he's picky either.

Posted by: perfectlykevin 18 October 2015 - 10:38 AM
Was he vegetarian? No. Look at the foods he ate. He ate meat so inherently there goes the notion he was a vegetarian. I think folks like to pick and choose what he might label himself (mainly because of our choices, not the character) but the reality is he ate pizza, ice cream, lizard, tofu, egg rolls, etc.

I think he a tendency to eat healthfully, and the best we can say is he was an omnivore. smile.gif

Posted by: Junemar12914026 18 October 2015 - 11:54 PM
No I don't think Mac is a vegatarian, he has eaten all sorts of meat .
I think hes just careful what he eats and sometimes gets what he can.
Also if he was worried about animals to much would he be wearing a leather jacket?
I think he only kills animals for food and not sport.
If only everyone was more like Angus macgyver the world would be a better place.
Jurikmac@gmail. Com sakopen.gif p

Posted by: Barry Rowland 19 October 2015 - 12:09 AM
Jedi, you are an awesome human being! I have to say I don't miss the red meat, and when I do cave in and have some, I pay for the indulgences lol. I wish I was as good about my diet as Mac was tho....

Posted by: Junemar12914026 19 October 2015 - 11:26 AM
No I don't think Mac is a vegatarian, he has eaten all sorts of meat .
I think hes just careful what he eats and sometimes gets what he can.
Also if he was worried about animals to much would he be wearing a leather jacket?
I think he only kills animals for food and not sport.
If only everyone was more like Angus macgyver the world would be a better place.
Jurikmac@gmail. Com sakopen.gif p

Posted by: Barry Rowland 19 October 2015 - 05:16 PM
Honestly, I really wish everybody was like Angus MacGyver....the world really would be a better place. I think he lived to be that person who really made a difference in the world. He sure is an inspiration to me!

Posted by: MacGyverGod 20 October 2015 - 02:48 AM
I think in each our own way we can actually be like him. But living up to his code of conduct or holding on to it is I think quite a challenge. On the other hand we have some of that in our own hands. We can be like him, dress like him, eat like him, act like him, think like him, helping other peoples out, listen to kids, take care of animals and the environment. We can do all our part in that.

I think it's just a matter of taking things in our own hands. Doing it is one thing, but keep doing it until it becomes a way of life is another matter.

Posted by: Jediferret 20 October 2015 - 04:19 AM
This is true, and being like Mac isn't unattainable either. I know I won't be disarming bombs with paperclips, but I can duplicate his attitude and think more resourcefully. Besides, you know what they say... imitation is the sincerest form a flattery. I'm not exactly like Mac. I'm a big, fat pessimist and I fall back into that mindset every now and again. But, I'm trying!

If you don't like how the world is, you change it. You have an obligation to change it. You just do it one step at a time. - Marian Wright Edelman

Posted by: MacGyverGod 20 October 2015 - 07:39 AM
Same here. I don't mind being more like Mac in his way of thinking perhaps but changing my entire image for that goes a little far. I like my 'dark side' at little too much for that. I'm a little more Mac Trail To Doomsday.


Posted by: Barry Rowland 20 October 2015 - 11:26 AM
All we can do is keep on trying! Hey, at least we have an awesome role model!

Posted by: Maclover 20 October 2015 - 01:35 PM
This website is getting to me I've just taken on a relatively simple task that would normally be done by two people and actually thought 'I need to think like Mac to make this easier'. Thus I need to drape a large sheet over a wide tall object that wouldn't stand the sheet being dragged over it - solution fold it in half lay it on the top, and pull the sides down. I then need to tie the sheet on the wide tall object - over and under and tie at the sides - how not to lose the first end when I chuck the rest over the top - solution wedge the first end into the object being covered so it doesn't disappear. Then I found myself deploying geometry to ensure that I can get this big wheeled very heavy, front wheel steered trolly into place through a narrow opening first time. The solutions all worked first time, but what got me was that first though which was literally 'what would Mac do? hmm.bmp LOL

Posted by: RadiantRose 31 August 2016 - 03:37 AM
Hi. Level 4.5 vegan here. Couldn't quite make it to Level 5. I think it was my habit of eating in the dark so nothing cast a shadow ... no, actually I am a 40-something who has been vegan half my life.

My take on it is that there's an argument that Mac decided to commit to no longer eating meat or poultry by the time he quit the Phoenix Foundation. He would no longer be in so many survival situations which didn't give him a choice as to what to eat.

I take note of the person who didn't like that people were trying to turn Mac from a good guy into a saint. I respect and understand that.

We know Mac likes animals and is affectionate towards dogs, monkeys, whatever is around. We know he is passionate about endangered animals (such as black rhino, which apparently didn't become extinct, so yay). Jack Dalton also refers to Mac's disapproval of shooting endangered animals when he mentions the contract to transport porta-potties. On the other hand, Mac's survival/bushcraft training has encouraged him to eat animals. In an episode, I forget the name, I'm a newbie to this fandom although not to veganism, he refers to small animals as "game". He refers to his grandfather (not sure if he meant Henry or if his other grandfather ever played any part in his life) trapping small animals. He mentions that they tend not to look down and so run into traps.

So we know that from a very early age, he was encouraged to see particular animals as food. Despite that, he was horrified when his friend tried to shoot a bird. And, in the episode "The Endangered", he doesn't know that the animals being turned into burgers were being trapped illegally at the actual point where he orders a salad with house dressing.

I think he's getting to a point of not wanting to eat mammals or birds, possibly not reptiles either. I don't see him having any intention of renouncing fishing at this stage in his life.

The leather jacket thing - I looked into this issue at some stage in the 1990s, after the series was over. I contacted a vegan biker for something I was writing. I was told that although synthetic fabrics existed that were more protective than leather, they were not widely available. It would have been prudent for Mac to hang on to his leather jackets for protection when motorcycling.

Although maybe the Phoenix Foundation had a section for researching the most animal-friendly, environment-friendly fabrics possible. They had a great many sections researching pretty much everything anyone could think of.

So - not vegetarian. On the other hand, a really, really good guy. macsak.gif

Posted by: Barry Rowland 31 August 2016 - 06:25 AM
Welcome aboard Radiant Rose and I agree!!

Posted by: denizen 31 August 2016 - 08:08 PM
Welcome to MacGyver Online RadiantRose. Great to have you with us.

Good point and thanks for sharing.

Posted by: MurdocFan 6 September 2016 - 12:24 PM
he has eaten meat in several episodes, and i dont even remember which ones, but he's not a vegetarian... i think he just likes to eat healthy laugh.gif

Posted by: RadiantRose 9 September 2016 - 12:12 PM
Thank you, Barry and denizen. It's good to be here.

Posted by: RadiantRose 16 September 2016 - 12:54 PM
QUOTE (Kate Mackay @ 21 March 2007 - 04:19 PM)
I got the feeling he was a vegetarian . I have still to look at the episodes that he is eating meat . But remember the meal that Murdoc has set for him in " Strictly Business " ? It was very elaborate . And Murdoc TOLD MacGyver that it was vegetarian. It was like MacGyver is a vegetarian and Murdoc knowing it, went to get him all the vegetarian platters he could eat to his content . Then when MacGyver would be filled up from the food, they could get down to the business at hand . That is when Murdoc was going to try to kill MacGyver in order to make it even between them , since MacGyver helped Murdoc with his ( supposed ) sister . ( I say " supposed " since in another area of this forum that question came up as to was Ashton Murdoc's sister. But we won't go into that , here and now .)
Anyway, my point being , I would say that I have that feeling MacGyver is a vegetarian . He has a very healthy way of eating . And I have as yet to see an episode that he ate meat .

Sincerely,
Katey Mackay

Then there's the question - if a person were vegetarian (but not seriously allergic to meat, fish or poultry), could they actually trust Murdoc not to have slipped meat stock or similar into the food? I mean, he's a villain, right? A villain who likes to mess with people's minds. mad.gif

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