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Posted by: MacGyver 13 January 2007 - 08:07 AM
Hi,
I'm sure most of you on here are aware of the (to my knowledge anyway) only official MacGyver novel- "MacGyver on Ice" by Mark Daniel.
As someone who has a copy of this book and has read through it 2 or 3 times- I can tell you it's definitely worth taking a look if you can find it.
I've been scouting around some and found something that I thought might be of interest.
As far as buying the book, the best place I'd suggest is www.abebooks.com (that's where I finally found a copy) or Ebay- particularly the UK version or other European versions.
BUT- if you can't find it there, maybe you could borrow it from your library!!!
I've done some checking and I've found out that at least 3 libraries in the world own a copy of this book!

Trinity College in Dublin, Ireland
http://opac.lib.tcd.ie:8004/WebZ/GeacQUERY?sessionid=01-45588-256527737

The British Library in England
http://catalogue.bl.uk/F/A87L875T5RBE8ERSUI3CN9XFQNTDV2IG9KIJ493BYXYD87JR4L-06552?func=full-set-set&set_number=038999&set_entry=000001&format=999

And
University of Buffalo in New York, USA
http://p8991-bison.buffalo.edu.gate.lib.buffalo.edu/F/3HNFP5LCUFM95U16PGLRQSAU8912C3Q68K2PPQB28TUI96H8PC-48962?func=full-set-set&set_number=000602&set_entry=000002&format=999


If you don't happen to actually live near or attend any of these schools or libraries, here's what you might be able to do. Go to your public or school library and request an inter-library loan for "MacGyver on Ice" by Mark Daniel. This is something most libraries do the world over and it is possible to get items sent from all over 50 states in the USA and across the world. I can't guarantee anything of course, but it might be worth checking it out for anyone who's really really been wanting to read this book!
Hope that's helpful and good luck with the book hunt! duct.gif sak.gif


Posted by: MacsChick 15 January 2007 - 08:30 PM
Oooo, that would be so cool (no pun intended tongue.gif wink.gif ) to read! I know that there are also several Stargate novels, and I've seen novels for The X-Files and 24, too. I wish they had more MacGyver ones, though. I guess that's why there's always room for fanfic though, right? wink.gif

Posted by: MacGyver 23 January 2007 - 01:23 PM
Anyone have any luck with this? Just curious...

Posted by: Lothithil 23 January 2007 - 02:44 PM
No luck yet, but I've only looked on Ebay and Amazon. Must dig deeper...

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Posted by: Old Fan 23 January 2007 - 05:39 PM
Has anyone tried the big chain stores... Barnes and Noble etc???

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Posted by: Sheepy 24 January 2007 - 01:39 AM
I've asked several big bookstores here in the Benelux, none of them have ever heard of the book. Some don't even know the writer.

Posted by: MacGyver 29 January 2007 - 09:20 AM
Well, if one were wanting to say, purchase this book- one might want to look here- http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MacGyver-on-Ice-by-Mark-Daniel_W0QQitemZ280074624523QQihZ018QQcategoryZ109390QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

(I hope this doesn't start a bidding war! biggrin.gif )
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Posted by: Astra 4 February 2007 - 01:38 AM
I won it! Thank you MacGyver, for this link! I hope I did not outbid someone from MOL? blush.gif

Can't wait to read it, though I would've thought that it would be a little thicker.

Now I really wonder what shipping from Australia to Germany will cost. Hopefully not more than the whole book!

Posted by: Lothithil 5 February 2007 - 05:33 AM
QUOTE (Astra @ 4 February 2007 - 04:48 AM)
I won it! Thank you MacGyver, for this link! I hope I did not outbid someone from MOL? blush.gif

Can't wait to read it, though I would've thought that it would be a little thicker.

Now I really wonder what shipping from Australia to Germany will cost. Hopefully not more than the whole book!

Congratulations! Be sure to give us a review of the book once you've read it. cool.jpg

Posted by: Astra 5 February 2007 - 12:50 PM
I certainly will! And I paid today hence it should arrive soon (is coming by airmail)

Posted by: tandt14 5 February 2007 - 04:29 PM
I sooo wanted that book but it went a little too high for me--shipping to the US would have been $10. Enjoy! Hopefully, I'll find my affordable copy one day. unsure.gif

Posted by: Astra 6 February 2007 - 12:19 PM
QUOTE (tandt14 @ 6 February 2007 - 01:39 AM)
I sooo wanted that book but it went a little too high for me

Sorry!

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--shipping to the US would have been $10.

Yeah, you're a little nearer to Australia than me. Though it doesn't look so when looking at a world map, then US is far left and Australia is far right and as a child I always had trouble to imagine that Japan is actually right next to America smile.gif

I pay around $ 14


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Enjoy!  Hopefully, I'll find my affordable copy one day. unsure.gif

I still have my announce at booklooker, if they find anything I'll let you know!

Posted by: Rockatteer 6 February 2007 - 12:55 PM
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as a child I always had trouble to imagine that Japan is actually right next to America


curl the map into a circle laugh.gif


Posted by: tandt14 6 February 2007 - 04:12 PM
Small world isn't it?

Posted by: Rockatteer 6 February 2007 - 08:22 PM
depends on the size of the map laugh.gif


Posted by: tandt14 7 February 2007 - 03:55 AM
Ha!! harhar.gif

Posted by: Astra 10 February 2007 - 02:37 PM
Guess what? Got my book today, and just read it in one go. Unfortunately, there only were 126 pages overall. I wished it was thicker.

So here is the promised review:

Yeah, there were a few things where I thought, no that description does not fit with the MacGyver I know. MacGyver (the one from MOL smile.gif ) is right when he says that the author of course should have used ice-hockey instead of baseball for Mac's favourite sports. And to imagine Mac knitting is rather funny also, but it had an important part in this story at the end, and since MacGyver (the real one smile.gif ) also was seen painting in one episode (which I somehow doubt him doing either - making music, yes, but painting? Come on! He never would be able to stand or sit still long enough to finish a picture!) so it might be.

At first I also was a little taken aback that Mac should now live in solitude in Alaska, I thought he always wants to help others and make a difference and this is what him drives and will do so till the last minute of his life and he never would live like this on his own like an eremite I thought. But as the story carried on it was very well explained why he chose to do so and I could better understand his reasons for it.

But those very little things aside, I enjoyed this book very much. It was very well written, a lot of funny dialogues, and the author definitely did his homework. You learn a lot about surviving in cold (and I mean very cold!) conditions, and you also learn that a few things you thought you knew about it are wrong. There is some guy acting very foolishly, doing all the things wrong (and of course thinking he is smarter than Mac) and not believing Mac that he (of course - he's Mac after all!) knows better, but at the end the guy realizes that he was wrong all the time.

And of course there is also a woman in this story, and not only so that Mac can shine as a hero but she has some brains herself. The two of them work very well together at this mission, and I liked that very much.

The mission itself was about bacteria, some old general wanted to wipe out the Russians and send them a missile with some very bad bacteria. So the author also did his homework in chemistry (you have to know stuff like that very well to write a book so that it all fits together at the end - I never could do that) but it always was understandable. Usually I don't like it when you get too much boring informations but this never was the case. You just picked them up in the dialogue between MacGyver and the young lady, and it worked out very well.

Then there was a nice little twist at the end, I would have been disappointed if there wouldn't have been one. It just went too smoothly after all, there had to be some catch to it. And a very nice idea to safe the day at the end! (don't want to say too much in case someone else is lucky enough to read it. Don't want to spoil the fun). Let's just say that a small little running-gag that carried on through the whole story suddenly got very important. I like it very much when loose ends are tighten up!

Of course Pete also has a part in this story, he tries to convince Mac to come back from his solitary (made for a few nice scenes between the two of them and I hope I don't say too much when I tell you that of course he succeded at the end, which I was very happy about).

The only thing I somehow missed in this story was a little whumping. It was the woman that had to walk on frozen feets instead of Mac. The only Mac-whumping I got were some really bad nightmares (and the story behind the reasons for him moving up to Alaska) so this layer always was present through the story and gave it some deepness.

All in all, a very enjoyable read (otherwise I would not have written that much, you always can see from the length of my feedbacks how much I liked a story) and the only thing I regret that it was the only novel ever. I would have liked to read more stories by the author.

So, if anyone out there has the chance to get a grip on this book - do it. You won't regret it.


Are there more (except MacGyver and me) that have read this book already and want to say something about it?

Posted by: MacGyverGod 10 February 2007 - 02:44 PM
Baseball seems more like O' Neills kinda thing, but knitting? ohmy.gif Drawing is more Mac's thing as was proven in The Negotiator. Knitting? My grandmother used to knit. The Lacey Sisters are supposed to knit.

I can live with the fact that MacGyver would live in solitude somewhere in his life. Also with the fact that it's in Alaska. But it just seems a little far-fetched. Living far away from civilisation in Harry's cabin in Minnesota, seems more reasonable.

Posted by: Astra 10 February 2007 - 02:55 PM
QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ 10 February 2007 - 11:54 PM)
Baseball seems more like O' Neills kinda thing, but knitting?  ohmy.gif Drawing is more Mac's thing as was proven in The Negotiator.


Still doesn't mean that I have to be convinced about this or like it. Don't know, I just thought it was odd for him doing painting/drawing. I liked the music-making better. To me somehow it was as if they wanted to show us in this episode that he is multitalented in everything. Nobody can do everything. As I said, he never could stand or sit still long enough for it smile.gif Same obviosly applies to knitting smile.gif

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Knitting? My grandmother used to knit. The Lacey Sisters are supposed to knit.


Yeah, well, but he had a reason. As it was explained, he made himself a few sweaters, and he surely would need them being in Alaska. And since this whole living seemed to be about making everything himself (hunting food etc.) and not rely onto something from the "real world" so he had no real choice actually.

And I even can understand the other reason, that it makes you calm and takes your brain off of other, not so pleasant thoughts. Hard to think about blown up missions when you have to count the stitches smile.gif

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I can live with the fact that MacGyver would live in solitude somewhere in his life. Also with the fact that it's in Alaska. But it just seems a little far-fetched. Living far away from civilisation in Harry's cabin in Minnesota, seems more reasonable.


Yeah, that's what I thought also. Would have liked the cabin in Minnesota much more. These were the little things were I somehow realized that it was no fanfiction that was written by a fan that knows everything about MacGyver but a book that was written by a professional author who maybe hadn't seen much of the series and only knew what he knew from reading about it. We'll never know, but it's the same with the Stargate-novels. You can clearly see who knows the characters very well and who not.

Posted by: MacGyver 10 February 2007 - 03:40 PM
Keep in mind that the book's publication date is 1986, which likely means that the author of "MacGyver on Ice" (Mark Daniel) probably had only seen the first season of MacGyver. And you might notice in the book that MacGyver seems to be a bit more brash and more in line with his 1st. Season personality (which I think changed some over the years.) Yeah, there are some things that may not seem too likely- but for the most part it's a fun, enjoyable story and the best thing is it's chock-filled with MacGyverisms!
If anyone wants to check out my review of the book, (along with a list of MacGyverisms and some cool quotes) you can see it at http://MacGyver.250free.com/bookreview.htm and http://MacGyver.250free.com/bookmacs.htm

I would agree with Astra- it's definitely worth reading and a great collectible for us hardcore MacGyver fans! biggrin.gif sak.gif duct.gif

Posted by: MacGyver 10 February 2007 - 03:44 PM
Hey- here's a brief review of "MacGyver on Ice" from a magazine called "Books for Keeps". Interesting.

http://www.booksforkeeps.co.uk/issues/47/3149

Posted by: Astra 10 February 2007 - 03:47 PM
QUOTE (MacGyver @ 11 February 2007 - 12:50 AM)
Keep in mind that the book's publication date is 1986, which likely means that the author of "MacGyver on Ice" (Mark Daniel) probably had only seen the first season of MacGyver.  And you might notice in the book that MacGyver seems to be a bit more brash and more in line with his 1st. Season personality (which I think changed some over the years.)

Yeah, sorry, you're right of course. I did not want to say bad things about it actually. It was a very complex story, everything worked out well, no gaping plot-holes at all and, as you said, lots of MacGyverisms and a very thrilling showdown at the end.

QUOTE (MacGyver @ 11 February 2007 - 12:54 AM)
Hey- here's a brief review of "MacGyver on Ice" from a magazine called "Books for Keeps". Interesting.

http://www.booksforkeeps.co.uk/issues/47/3149


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MacGyver, the spy who knits,


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Posted by: tandt14 10 February 2007 - 04:35 PM
I'm so jealous. tongue.gif The book sounds great! Now I HAVE to get my own copy! Thank you for the review!

Posted by: Rockatteer 10 February 2007 - 04:37 PM
QUOTE (Astra)
Don't know, I just thought it was odd for him doing painting/drawing. I liked the music-making better. To me somehow it was as if they wanted to show us in this episode that he is multitalented in everything. Nobody can do everything. As I said, he never could stand or sit still long enough for it smile.gif

You have to sit still to write and play music... whats the difference?

if you take into account all the times we see him lazing around sleeping on his sofa, I don't think he had a problem keeping still at all.

The idea of the art class was to convey that he's artistic, which I think fits perfectly with his nature and personality.

but... to each his own...


Posted by: Astra 11 February 2007 - 12:18 AM
QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 11 February 2007 - 01:47 AM)
You have to sit still to write and play music... whats the difference?

Okay, okay, you win smile.gif

QUOTE (tandt14 @ 11 February 2007 - 01:45 AM)
I'm so jealous.  tongue.gif  The book sounds great!  Now I HAVE to get my own copy!  Thank you for the review!

Well, if I KNEW you'd send it back to me then MAYBE I would send it to you just for reading. Maybe...

No, that's not a good idea actually since you'd have to pay the shipping costs twice and then you also could have afforded to buy it the first time. And I also fear it could get lost between here and there...

Posted by: MacGyverGod 11 February 2007 - 01:40 AM
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Keep in mind that the book's publication date is 1986, which likely means that the author of "MacGyver on Ice" (Mark Daniel) probably had only seen the first season of MacGyver. And you might notice in the book that MacGyver seems to be a bit more brash and more in line with his 1st. Season personality (which I think changed some over the years.)

Now that I didn't know. huh.gif

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if you take into account all the times we see him lazing around sleeping on his sofa, I don't think he had a problem keeping still at all.

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The idea of the art class was to convey that he's artistic, which I think fits perfectly with his nature and personality.

I think it is. It looks relaxing and rest giving.

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If anyone wants to check out my review of the book, (along with a list of MacGyverisms and some cool quotes) you can see it at http://MacGyver.250free.com/bookreview.htm and http://MacGyver.250free.com/bookmacs.htm

Sounds cool.

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No, that's not a good idea actually since you'd have to pay the shipping costs twice and then you also could have afforded to buy it the first time. And I also fear it could get lost between here and there...

Actually that's too bad. I only bought one book once John Jake's North and South, which did came in unharmed.
Hey, got any idea where we can read it online?

Posted by: MacGyverGrrl 15 February 2007 - 06:13 PM
Creating art is a great activity for high energy people like MacGyver. Painting and the creative process of art is a very focused meditative activity. Speaking from an artist's perspective, I can literally "lose time" when I am working out creative problem. I am a jewelry designer when I'm not being a corporate trainer, and the act of designing a new piece or figuring out a technical aspect of construction is a great way to release stress from my "real" job. Pushing the limits on a design and seeing a concept from mental image to physical reality is immensely rewarding.

Creating art is an act of love. If you don't love it you are not going to direct the time, energy and passion necessary to see a project to completion. MacGyver has a restless energy that he has chosen to channel into something constructive. People with an abundance of restless energy find a place to release it, the question is, will it be a constructive or destructive endeavor? MacGyver, in keeping with the nature of his character, has chosen the constructive outlet that creating art provides.

Posted by: MacGyver 3 April 2007 - 05:03 AM
For anyone still looking...
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MacGyver-On-Ice-By-Mark-Daniel_W0QQitemZ320098817349QQcategoryZ109390QQcmdZViewItem

good luck! wink.gif

Posted by: Amy 3 April 2007 - 10:28 AM
Yeah, saw that...shipping was under $4 to my zipcode, so that was reasonable...

biggrin.gif However, the bidding price is outta my league now. sad.gif

Posted by: MEP 3 April 2007 - 07:29 PM
QUOTE (MacsChick @ 16 January 2007 - 01:40 AM)
Oooo, that would be so cool (no pun intended  tongue.gif  wink.gif ) to read! I know that there are also several Stargate novels, and I've seen novels for The X-Files and 24, too. I wish they had more MacGyver ones, though. I guess that's why there's always room for fanfic though, right?  wink.gif


Oh, man. I would rather buy my own copy than borrow it from a library.

The only good X-Files books out there are by Kevin Anderson. The man writes Mulder and Scully better than the guys from the show.

Posted by: Devon636 3 April 2007 - 07:56 PM
QUOTE (MEP @ 4 April 2007 - 03:39 PM)
QUOTE (MacsChick @ 16 January 2007 - 01:40 AM)
Oooo, that would be so cool (no pun intended  tongue.gif  wink.gif ) to read! I know that there are also several Stargate novels, and I've seen novels for The X-Files and 24, too. I wish they had more MacGyver ones, though. I guess that's why there's always room for fanfic though, right?  wink.gif


There's MacGyver books?! For real? Where! w00t.gif

( I mean I know fan-fic but something like you could display on a bookshelf. )

Posted by: Amy 4 April 2007 - 03:41 AM
Yep...just follow the recent ebay link in this thread to see it...though it may have ended...I stopped watching it when it hit $20! smile.gif It's the only licensed novel.

Posted by: Lothithil 4 April 2007 - 11:18 AM
Fiendishly enticing... cool.jpg

Posted by: MacGirl 5 April 2007 - 01:17 PM
There are also novels based on all three CSI shows. The more recent CSI:Miami novels are much better than the first ones; I think the new author actually watched the show more than once, and so has a better feel for the characters' personalities and quirks.

Posted by: MacGyver 5 April 2007 - 04:08 PM
I suppose some TV-show based novels are better than others. The "MacGyver on Ice" is really great though. Some of my other favorites are any of the Star Trek books (though Star Trek: The Next Generation is my favorite series), Quantum Leap and Saved By the Bell. There are really good book series for all of these shows and I think the authors did a really great job of capturing the essence of the shows in each case.
Too bad there wasn't more for MacGyver. An ongoing book series would have been really great. Considering all the other series in the 1980s that made it (see examples below), I'm surprised MacGyver didn't get a comic book series or video game either. That would have been really cool!


("The A-Team" had both a 3 issue comic series from Marvel and an Atari 2600 video game, at least in prototype form, "Knight Rider" had a Nintendo Entertainment System video game, and more recently 2 PC games that have been released in the last few years. "Airwolf" also got a NES game. Even "Miami Vice" had a PC game! Even short-lived shows like "Automan" and "Street Hawk" got video games for Commodore 64 and Spectrum, respectively! And even shorter-lived show "Manimal" had a UK annual, which featured short stories and comics!)

Glad I got all that fanboy knowledge off my head! biggrin.gif
At least MacGyver did get an official action figure and tons of accessories, thanks to Glasslite! wink.gif
sak.gif duct.gif

Posted by: Devon636 5 April 2007 - 07:53 PM
QUOTE (MacGyver @ 6 April 2007 - 12:18 PM)
I suppose some TV-show based novels are better than others. The "MacGyver on Ice" is really great though.

Aaaarrrgh...e-bay bidding on this book out of my price range now. dry.gif

Kinda curious this author only made one. At the height of the show's run in the 80's, I would imagine it would have sold well. Who knows.

How did this author publish this book without copyright infringement? I didn't see anything on e-bay that indicated it was authorized by Paramount, but maybe I missed it.

Posted by: MacGyver 6 April 2007 - 08:21 AM
I've got a copy of "MacGyver on Ice" and though it was published only in Britain apparently, it is definitely authorized by Paramount. And it is an original novel, not just a novelization of an episode. Too bad this was not continued in a series of original novels, but oh well. It's nice to find this one book- if you can ever track it down on Ebay or used book stores.

Posted by: MacGyver 14 April 2007 - 12:17 PM
One more again-

http://cgi.ebay.com/MacGyver-ON-ICE-pb-MARK-DANIEL_W0QQitemZ320100186437QQihZ011QQcategoryZ109390QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

"You can do anything you want to do if you put your mind to it."- MacGyver

Go for it! Good luck! biggrin.gif sak.gif duct.gif

Posted by: Astra 16 April 2007 - 02:46 AM
Why do these people sell their MacGyver-books all of a sudden? I don't understand it.

But I'm glad they do so that people like me that didn't even know MacGyver existed when the book was published still can get it after all this time!

Posted by: tandt14 16 April 2007 - 04:09 PM
ARGH!!! I'm never going to get it!!! Outbid again!!!! Oh well. Maybe one day.

Posted by: MacNymph 16 April 2007 - 05:19 PM
Okay Dag-Nabbit!

I'm starting a list...it's a list for MacGyver to whisper into the ear of the person next on the list about an Ebay listing. Instead of announcing it to the world!! laugh.gif

MACNYMPH

Posted by: MacGyver 16 April 2007 - 08:31 PM
Sorry guys- I just didn't want anyone to miss out on a chance at getting it...but anyway, I've seen a couple of copies of "MacGyver on Ice" pop up on Ebay in the last few months...so from here on out, I'm just gonna say- keep your eyes on Ebay- you never know what might pop up!
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(And don't forget other avenues too- online used book sellers might have it... wink.gif )

Posted by: MacNymph 17 April 2007 - 05:26 AM
QUOTE (MacGyver @ 17 April 2007 - 05:00 PM)
so from here on out, I'm just gonna say- keep your eyes on Ebay- you never know what might pop up!
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Oh yeah... that's different. laugh.gif I think you missed my goal. rolleyes.gif


Posted by: Sheepy 17 April 2007 - 06:26 AM
51 AUD....
Sweet jeez!

I'm a real book worm, so this is a real must-have for me, but no waaaaay I'm going to pay 35 for a second hand book!!

Posted by: Teemu 17 April 2007 - 07:06 AM
QUOTE (Sheepy @ 18 April 2007 - 02:55 AM)
51 AUD....
Sweet jeez!

I'm a real book worm, so this is a real must-have for me, but no waaaaay I'm going to pay 35 for a second hand book!!

Well I'm actually the freak who's bidding the 51 AUD on it. biggrin.gif I've seen this book on eBay a couple of times and every time I've seen it I've not had any money to buy it so I'm not letting it go this time.


EDIT: Weird... This seems to be my first post in there. I thought I'd posted something before, but I guess not. Hi everybody!

Posted by: Sheepy 17 April 2007 - 07:34 AM
Hey Teemu!!

You're not a freak! If I had the money for it I'd probably bid on it too! Maybe you can sell it to one of us after you're finished. LOL!

Btw, welcome here!!

Posted by: MacNymph 17 April 2007 - 07:39 AM
huh.gif

Oh no no no no!!! YOU ARE A FREAK!!

You're going down a slippery slope. STOP before it's too late... RETRACT ALL YOUR BIDS NOW!!

rolleyes.gif

It's not going to work is it? sad.gif

Had to try. laugh.gif

Posted by: Lothithil 17 April 2007 - 08:40 AM
QUOTE (MacNymph @ 17 April 2007 - 11:08 AM)
huh.gif

Oh no no no no!!! YOU ARE A FREAK!!

You're going down a slippery slope. STOP before it's too late... RETRACT ALL YOUR BIDS NOW!!

rolleyes.gif

It's not going to work is it? sad.gif

Had to try. laugh.gif



laugh.gif Psych 'em, Nymphy!

QUOTE (Teemu)
Weird... This seems to be my first post in there. I thought I'd posted something before, but I guess not. Hi everybody!


Rocky reset the counter a while ago, so we're all experiencing lost post-count withdrawl.

Anyway, nice to meecha, Teemu!

Posted by: Teemu 17 April 2007 - 09:08 AM
QUOTE (MacNymph @ 18 April 2007 - 04:08 AM)
huh.gif

Oh no no no no!!! YOU ARE A FREAK!!

You're going down a slippery slope. STOP before it's too late... RETRACT ALL YOUR BIDS NOW!!

rolleyes.gif

It's not going to work is it?  sad.gif

Had to try.  laugh.gif

Im sorry but no. laugh.gif

Posted by: MacNymph 17 April 2007 - 09:23 AM
Dang! Dang! Dang! headbutt.gif


Yeah well... welcome back anyway. smile.gif

*grumbles* out bid me and come in and gloat...

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Posted by: tandt14 17 April 2007 - 03:50 PM
Wow!!! I wish that I had that kind of dough. It killed me to bid almost $20 USD and know that I would have to pay almost $10 in shipping to get that book. But, alas, outbid AGAIN!!!!! Maybe one day..... sad.gif

Posted by: Rockatteer 17 April 2007 - 04:15 PM
Yes Welcome to the community Teemu.

Have fun here smile.gif




Posted by: Devon636 17 April 2007 - 08:48 PM
Welcome to MOL Teemu! biggrin.gif Did you win the book?

Posted by: Teemu 17 April 2007 - 08:59 PM
QUOTE (Devon636 @ 18 April 2007 - 05:17 PM)
Welcome to MOL Teemu! biggrin.gif Did you win the book?

Well I still have to wait 19 hours and 33 minutes to see if I win. I don't usually have so much money but it was my birthday recently (on the 16th) and my dad gave me some money in advance as a present.

Posted by: Devon636 17 April 2007 - 09:10 PM
Hey, that's what birthdays are for! You should buy something nice for yourself. biggrin.gif

By the way, I love Finland. When Conan O'Brian went there last year and spoke with your president I thought "I have to go there". Your president is Tarja Hallonen right?

Posted by: Sheepy 17 April 2007 - 11:25 PM
Finland is indeed a magnificent country. Maybe I'll come and pick up the book myself after you've finished reading it. LOL.

I'm going to a second hand bookstore later this afternoon, see if I can find it there...

Posted by: Teemu 19 April 2007 - 03:36 AM
Damn I didn't get the book! sad.gif Oh well I guess I'll get it some other day.

Posted by: MacNymph 19 April 2007 - 07:01 AM
blink.gif $56 USD!!

Forgetaboutit! roller.gif

Posted by: Lothithil 19 April 2007 - 09:16 AM
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Posted by: MacNymph 19 April 2007 - 09:55 AM
QUOTE (Lothithil @ 20 April 2007 - 05:45 AM)
whistle.gif cool.jpg

w00t.gif OH NO YOU DIDN'T!?!? laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Astra 19 April 2007 - 10:20 AM
Maybe the next time three people should put their money together and then send the book around for everyone to read? Just a thought.

Seems my 20.50 AUD were quite a bargain then biggrin.gif

Posted by: Lothithil 19 April 2007 - 11:07 AM
QUOTE (MacNymph @ 19 April 2007 - 01:24 PM)
QUOTE (Lothithil @ 20 April 2007 - 05:45 AM)
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w00t.gif OH NO YOU DIDN'T!?!? laugh.gif laugh.gif

biggrin.gif Luckily I didn't have to spend as much for mine as the last one sold for. Still, I paid more for my copy than I've ever spent on a second-hand book before!

Still waiting for it to come in the mail. I could conceivably be persuaded to loan it out on a temporary basis... with the correct inducements...

... bribery...

... collateral such as first borns...

I'm willing to listen entertain any reasonable offer! cool.jpg

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Posted by: MacGyver 19 April 2007 - 11:10 AM
Congrats, Lothithil!
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When you get a chance to read it, post on here and let us know what you think of "MacGyver on Ice"! smile.gif


Posted by: Lothithil 3 May 2007 - 11:05 AM
Yippee! My book arrived today... finally! I've been checking the mailbox for a month now like a little kid! happy.gif

I'll post my review after I get a chance to read it!



dance.gif mine! mine! mine! mine! lol!

Posted by: Astra 3 May 2007 - 11:28 AM
QUOTE (Lothithil @ 3 May 2007 - 08:34 PM)
I'll post my review after I get a chance to read it! 


Which should not take too long, actually *looks at her watch to know when to come back*

I was done after three hours, if I remember correctly - or maybe even less? biggrin.gif

Posted by: Lothithil 3 May 2007 - 01:26 PM
Aye, it's not too long... but when will I have the time? That is the question!

Tonight is movie night, and tomorrow is mahjong... I'll probably stay up tonight reading when I should be sleeping! biggrin.gif I've always had more curiousity than brains! happy.gif

Posted by: tandt14 9 May 2007 - 03:12 PM
WhooHoo!!!! I finally won an eBay auction for "MacGyver on Ice!" *Does the happy dance.* 460.gif Now, only to pay for it and impatiently wait for it to come from Australia!!! Can't wait!!!

Posted by: MacGyver 9 May 2007 - 07:25 PM
Good for you, tandt14!!! biggrin.gif clapping.gif smile.gif

I really had wanted to say something, but I restrained!
Mmmm...Mmmm.... tongue.gif
*Lets out huge breath*
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by: MacNymph 9 May 2007 - 08:14 PM
Ahhhhh laugh.gif I didn't say anything coz I saw Teemu was bidding on it. laugh.gif

Posted by: Astra 10 May 2007 - 01:46 AM
Congratulations! Now it won't be long till we get another review. Maybe we should collect them all together in one thread? It's nice to talk with others that had the opportunity to read this book!

And I ask again - why do all these people throw out their books all of a sudden? And why are all of them coming from Australia? hmm.bmp

Posted by: tandt14 10 May 2007 - 05:05 AM
Thank you MacGyver. I was really hoping that you wouldn't. biggrin.gif Will post a review as soon as I get it and have the time to read it. Yay!! I'll stop my whining now.

Posted by: Jazz 23 May 2007 - 08:11 PM
The question of "why aren't there more MacGyver books?" has already been approached here, and from what I've seen, it's been thoroughly concluded that the answer is:

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So my next question is, does anyone have any ideas on how to change that sad fact, and is it even possible (what with those icky copyright laws)?

Posted by: Astra 23 May 2007 - 10:26 PM
QUOTE (Jazz @ 24 May 2007 - 05:40 AM)
So my next question is, does anyone have any ideas on how to change that sad fact, and is it even possible (what with those icky copyright laws)?

After your first post to the forum I somehow was hoping, that you might... so am I right? *looks hopefully* notworthy.gif

Posted by: Jazz 23 May 2007 - 10:30 PM
Heh.... a writer I may be, but a lawyer I am not, and "copyright lawsuits" will ruin anyone's birthday party. So while fanfics may be alright, I would definitely hesitate before trying to put anything in paperback form.

Posted by: Astra 23 May 2007 - 10:55 PM
Well, it worked for the Stargate novels which are also written by formerly fanfiction authors (since they know the series and its heroes better than any ordinary author that never watched it before). They are officially approved by MGM. You can buy them at bookshops and online.

Fandomenium rules!


I admit it would be a lot of work to set up something like that. But a girl can dream, can she?

Posted by: Jazz 23 May 2007 - 11:06 PM
By all means, dream away.
Be sure to let me know if anything developes.


Personally, I get kind-of excited at the idea of writing some stories, even if it does break my cardinal rule of "don't write fanfics". My original impression was that it was unoriginal and unimaginitive. I guess MacGyver got me excited enough to review some of my old rules from a new perspective.

I have to say, though, I'm quite hesitant all the same.
There's six and a half seasons of MacGyver that I haven't seen, which means there are millions of invisible pitfalls for me to accidentally mess up and be inaccurate, y'know, get the backstory wrong, or miss something important.

Last thing I want to do is use a character and find out they died three seasons later blink.gif

Posted by: Astra 23 May 2007 - 11:37 PM
QUOTE (Jazz @ 24 May 2007 - 08:35 AM)
Last thing I want to do is use a character and find out they died three seasons later  blink.gif

As long as he still was alive at the time frame your story is set... Plus there is always the beta reader for finding mistakes.

But of course you shall give yourself time first for exploring the series in full before start to write anything. I haven't written anything for MacGyver so far either, only Stargate. Since for the latter I do have all the DVDs and watch and read it at a regularly basis and it was some years ago that I watched MacGyver for the last time and so I (yet) feel uncomfortable writing something as well.



QUOTE (Jazz @ 24 May 2007 - 08:35 AM)
My original impression was that it (fanfiction) was unoriginal and unimaginitive.


That definitively it is not! I read so many good stuff where the characters are really explored in all their depts - what they think, what they feel, their fears, their background - with all their flaws and also good attributes. Where they learnt something in the end or grew at an almost impossible task.

Yes, I admit, I'm totally fixed on!



Maybe we should start a new topic for this discussion? Rock?

Posted by: Rockatteer 24 May 2007 - 12:21 AM
QUOTE (Jazz @ 24 May 2007 - 07:35 PM)
There's six and a half seasons of MacGyver that I haven't seen, which means there are millions of invisible pitfalls for me to accidentally mess up and be inaccurate, y'know, get the backstory wrong, or miss something important.

Yes your right.

You can't write a good quality fan fiction for a character and story you don't understand.

And if you haven't watched at least the first 4-5 seasons, it's fair to say you don't understand the character.




Posted by: Jazz 24 May 2007 - 12:25 AM
Ouch, alright, so we've firmly established that I'm still swimming in the kiddie pool.
Try not to rub it in, will ya? happy.gif

Posted by: Rockatteer 24 May 2007 - 12:36 AM
by the time you've finished season 4, you'll understand what I mean.

MacGyver's a pretty complex character.

Posted by: MacGyver 24 May 2007 - 09:18 AM
Of course, it doesn't seem like Mark Daniel, the writer of "MacGyver on Ice", had seen anything beyond the first season when he wrote the book- but then maybe Paramount just wanted to get some merchandise out there. doh.gif

Of course, it'd ideally be best to watch all the MacGyver episodes (that's 7 seasons' worth- and two TV-movies) before trying to write new stories, but you go with what you have and where you feel you have a comfortable grasp on the characters.

Though that raises an interesting question. (And this may deserve its own thread, so I think I'll put it there.) http://www.macgyveronline.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=3364
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