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|Posted by: KiwiTek 2 October 2015 - 06:27 PM|
| According to http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/macgyver-cbs-reboot-james-wan-829154 CBS are looking at rebooting MacGyver with James Wan at the helm.
The report claims that R. Scott Gemmill will pen the script and exec produce alongside Henry Winkler with James Wan directing the pilot.
There is no mention in this report of Lee Zlotoff's role in the show. Zlotoff is the owner of the MacGyver copyright and needs to give his stamp of approval on any new MacGyver project. It's conceivable that this is a preliminary idea from CBS being floated to see if it is in fact possible.
This announcement comes on the back of what seem to be a reboot frenzy in Hollywood at the moment with The A Team, Minority report, X Files, Uncle Buck, Rush Hour and Lethal Weapon all being lined up for the reboot treatment with mixed results. Minority Report hasn't lived up to the potential thus far, Heroes: reborn had modest reviews while Bradley Cooper's 'Limitless' has had positive reviews.
Only time will tell how this MacGyver reboot will pan out and if they have enough duck tape and paper clips to MacGyver a reboot together.
|Posted by: themacgyverproject 2 October 2015 - 07:27 PM|
|Wow -- very interesting. For a second I had to think about what day it was to make sure it wasn't an April Fools.|
|Posted by: denizen 2 October 2015 - 09:28 PM|
|Heard about this too. Interesting to see NCIS LA writer is involved but more importantly, Winkler!!!|
|Posted by: KiwiTek 2 October 2015 - 11:01 PM|
| MBD sounds keen to reprise his role as Murdoc.
|Posted by: Mr Duct Tape 3 October 2015 - 03:19 AM|
| With Henry Winkler as one of the producers, maybe we can hope something good comes up from this new series.
I hope it's not a lame one like the recent revival of knight rider.
|Posted by: Fellow Traveler 3 October 2015 - 06:25 AM|
| Well, let's see how this develops. There has been talk about a reboot for ages, hasn't there? I only hope they won't do a female version, sorry for saying this. But MacGyver is a guy.
Bringing MDB back in would be kind of cool! But let's just wait and see how this whole thing unfolds.
|Posted by: MacsJeep 3 October 2015 - 06:31 AM|
|I'm a girl, and I agree, Mac is a guy and should stay that way. I don't really envisage Mac as anyone but RDA, so it will be hard for me. I think I'd prefer it if they still went along with the idea that the original show existed and all that happened, and the new Mac was his son. I hate it when they just wipe whole timelines out just to make a new version of something. That way you could have RDA guest to get things started, and it would still feel right for MDB to be Murdoc!|
|Posted by: macgyver1984 3 October 2015 - 01:19 PM|
|I think this great news / I sure hope this show works out / it sounds great.|
|Posted by: KiwiTek 3 October 2015 - 03:04 PM|
Winkler had no creative input into the original show. He just wrote the checks to pay for it. The same will happen again this time.
It sounds like they plan to make him a 20 something year old, so does that mean a new MacGyver universe will be created - erasing the old show? The only way they could make MacGyver 20 is if he's actually SAM, or it's a prequel to the Original show. Either way is preferable to just starting over. There's too much character history built from the original show to just ignore it - surely?
|Posted by: Mr Duct Tape 3 October 2015 - 03:23 PM|
Oh didn't know that part, but thanks for the clarification @KiwiTek
It seems that they're going for a new timeline then. I'm curious at least to see where this goes.
|Posted by: KiwiTek 3 October 2015 - 03:33 PM|
OK, this is sounding like a prequel.
|Posted by: Mr Duct Tape 3 October 2015 - 04:12 PM|
|The casting will be crucial for this revival.|
|Posted by: KiwiTek 3 October 2015 - 04:30 PM|
| I've read some comments in the last 24 hours sighting the Knight Rider reboot failure as an example of why not to do reboots, but I will say there is one thing the KR reboot did which I think would work well in this instance too - and that is that they listened to feedback from the fans. The writers and FX guys would do live chat sessions as the show aired to get immediate feedback on the show and they also were reading and responding to comments in the KR forums and we would see things included or excluded from week to week in response to our comments and discussions with them.
I'd love to see that same sort of tweaking happen with MacGyver. Also I think shows like Arrow and The Flash have proven just how powerful fan interaction can be.
|Posted by: MacsJeep 4 October 2015 - 01:16 AM|
|I do think they listened to the fans on the new KR, but by the time it was getting where it needed to be to work, it had gotten canned. Shame. I'm not really into the prequel idea, but its better than starting over and ignoring the original Mac altogether. And thank goodness its still Angus, and he's not be turned into an Angela tee hee|
|Posted by: Fellow Traveler 4 October 2015 - 02:43 AM|
|Or Mac in Pete's position at the Phoenix Foundation, taking on a new, hot-shot kid and showing him the ropes. That might work and if they changed the title to "Phoenix", that would still be okay.|
|Posted by: Jediferret 4 October 2015 - 04:28 AM|
| This may just be me... but it sounds like James Wan went whining to CBS since he couldn't get anywhere with Zlotoff with his "vision".
I have no problem with a reboot or prequel, or anything like that. But, that just seems a bit weird to me.
It's just me, isn't it...
|Posted by: perfectlykevin 4 October 2015 - 06:46 AM|
| I can't wait to see what they come up with. I imagine they will start fresh with the character, and alternate universe kinda situation, much like they did with Hawaii Five-O. The character will resemble what we're used to but that might be about it. More the "spirit of MacGyver" than the strict timeline that we're used to.
The creative, use-what's-around-you character I doubt will disappear. I just hope they keep him as innocent as RDA's version was. I don't want to see a hard drinking, womanizing version of Mac.
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 4 October 2015 - 07:14 AM|
| I don't know what to think of this really. The whole movie thing died out again when James Wan was going to do Fast 7. Fast 7 sure had it's delays because of Paul Walker's death. Maybe it's not that weird yet that we haven't heard in a while. After all the movie got delayed and has been released not even six months ago. So maybe there wasn't time yet to start up a fresh project. But I've been checking Wan's filmography and he's back in horror territory filming the sequel of The Conjuring and he has another movie planned for 2018. We don't actually know yet what his position will be if it happens. But I think my guess would be just producer than along with Heny Winkler?
How long has it been since we've heard anything from Lee? Where is he and what is he doing lately? And can they do something without him?
I'm not sure about all those planned reboots. It's reboots left and right and often with mixed results. In case of Lethal Weapon I'd rather see a fifth one with a new cast. There was an early rumour they wanted Chris Hemsworth for the lead. And I rather have MacGyver movie instead I think. Depends on what they have mind I guess. I'm all for the fans involvement.
But it kinda troubles me. It's like they wanna do something again that didn't work out before. A younger MacGyver with the difference that it's actually Mac and not a family member we'd never seen before.
I think we better don't get carried away. Young MacGyver didn't work out and a movie never took off either. I'm not really saying I'm against it but I've had a few let downs about this before. One minute it's a dream, than something happens and when things are becoming interesting it just dies out. Let's just see how this plays out but don't get your hopes up.
And Jedi, I don't think James went whining to CBS. I haven't kept an eye on his activities but he's filming The Conjuring 2 and I wouldn't be suprised he just went back immediately after F7 to film this movie. This guy belongs in the horror genre.
|Posted by: Jediferret 4 October 2015 - 08:06 AM|
| Okay, maybe not whining per say... but it does feel like he's trying to bypass Zlotoff. Take that with a grain of salt... it just my take on it.
You'll have to forgive my bluntness, my sister hates James Wan and went on an hour long rant about this the other night. I suppose it lowered my faith in it.
If it happens, I'll give it a fair shot... but if it ends up being too painful to watch, or if he "breaks" the character... I'm tuning out.
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 4 October 2015 - 09:22 AM|
|It's not even certain this all will happen. I like James Wan's movies so far or what I've seen from it. Saw and The Conjuring were not bad and Fast 7 wasn't disappointing at all. He directed it well. Maybe doesn't count, because most actors worked almost five to six times before in the same franchise and knew what they had to do, but I think he can handle action adventure. But like I said this guy belongs in horror genre.|
|Posted by: Barry Rowland 4 October 2015 - 01:06 PM|
|Right there with you Jedi.|
|Posted by: KiwiTek 4 October 2015 - 02:06 PM|
From what I understand...
Lee Zlotoff owns the rights to MacGyver, but CBS still own the rights to the old show and everything in them. This means the characters (except MacGyver), organisations, etc all belong to CBS...
So what does all that mean?
It means Lee Zlotoff has control of any new MacGyver material and CBS have control of the old TV series.
But remember that in Sept of last year CBS and ZLotoff came to an agreement regarding merchandising rights of the show. There was no real explanation of what that would mean, but this may be one of spin offs of that agreement. In any case ultimately it means that CBS and Zlotoff need to come ot an agreement for any movie or TV show containing original MacGyver characters to be made.
|Posted by: denizen 4 October 2015 - 08:40 PM|
| I don't think Zlottof was bypassed in anyway but I do agree with you that I do not have much faith in Wan.
Only time will tell whether the reboot will actually work but from the synopsis I have read on Time, it looks like he's hell bent on doing his reboot which makes no sense of the origin story. But thy also use the word re-imagining. So that means that Wan can pretty much change whatever he wants.
That could be both a good and bad thing.
This from Time:
MacGyver will be "recruited into a clandestine organization"
The 80s-90s action-adventure TV series MacGyver is getting a reboot from CBS, and the director of Furious 7 will be the executive producer.
According to Entertainment Weekly, CBS has described the series as a “reimagining of the television series of the same name, following a 20-something MacGyver as he gets recruited into a clandestine organization where he uses his knack for solving problems in unconventional ways to help prevent disasters from happening.” James Wan, who directed Furious 7, will be producing the show.
Wan has wanted to make a MacGyver film for some time, EW reports. However, film plans have yet to come to fruition.
Richard Dean Anderson starred in the original MacGyver series which ran for seven seasons on ABC starting in 1985.
|Posted by: angus20 5 October 2015 - 08:36 AM|
| interesting, I read the same note yesterday in the newspaper, If I have to chose I would prefer a movie instead of a reboot of the whole series.
only time will tell, but as it was mentioned before too many reboots at the same time, are we running out of ideas?
|Posted by: MacFan092985 5 October 2015 - 08:41 AM|
| I agree with those who have said that RDA is MacGYVER. If indeed, this supposed new series is set earlier in the world of MacGYVER we already know, then great. Being able to see Mac doing and learning things, cultivating his beliefs, etc. would add so much depth to the character, on top of the depth that is already there.
I am in no way in support of a re-imagining of such an icon character.
It'll be interesting to see if this goes anywhere.
|Posted by: Joe SAKic 5 October 2015 - 09:08 AM|
|The concept is always there. Another portrayal pov is all good, if only that it will introduce another, younger generation to the wisdom of the character. Having said that, don't really care if it every makes to screen ... or not. No way, as long as the ubiquitous and cartoonish Computer graphics are being pushed, will ever be as good as the original.|
|Posted by: MacsJeep 5 October 2015 - 09:19 AM|
| The more I read about this, the more I fear I'm not going to like it. The word re-imagining scares me. I don't want something so iconic and in my eyes almost perfect, re-imagining. It was fine as it was!
Seeing a younger Mac, and what he got upto might work, but for me, it would ONLY work, if they left the original show intact as well, so one fed into the other.
I was not a fan of the new Five-0, either, so I am fearing the worst here.
|Posted by: cirubit 5 October 2015 - 09:21 AM|
| The plot of reboot don't convince me.
Another "young" MacGyver?
It doesn't work!!!!
|Posted by: Mr Duct Tape 5 October 2015 - 09:34 AM|
|and I don't like that "clandestine organization" nonsense also. Phoenix Foundation was a respected and important organization in the MacGyver "universe" as I remember.|
|Posted by: perfectlykevin 5 October 2015 - 11:40 AM|
|DXS is the clandestine organization?? He was recruited by Pete in a way... I don't mind "reboots." I mean the telling and retelling of hero stories have been going on forever, like Osiris to Jesus. Just another version with the spirit of the character being honored (hopefully!)|
|Posted by: KiwiTek 5 October 2015 - 12:36 PM|
Yes as Kevin just pointed out...
MacGyver started at the DXS and even before that he was working for unknown government agencies.
If they are going to honer the timeline in any way at all - from what Wan says, that s a big "if" - they would have Mac working for the DXS.
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 5 October 2015 - 01:09 PM|
| I am hopeful and excited about this. I know recasting Macgyver Thorton etc is going to be tough but honestly I feel like this show could be brilliant (I am going to give it at least 3 episodes before I make my mind and Hope everyone does the same..)
As for what we do know Personally I don't mind a reimagining so long as certain things stay well in tact
1. The character of Macgyver: Basically First -3rd season MacGyver needs almost no changing to "fit" in the modern world and he shouldn't have to change. Both thwriters and the Actor playing him really should watch all 7 seasons and both TV movies and keep the character we know and love the same.
2. Keep the Spy Espionage stuff From seasons 1-5. I don't mind a troubled child of the week story once or twice honestly but I think this should be more James bond then Mr Rogers. (Hey I love all 7 seasons I honestly do) Keep Mac tracking Down HIT or Rogue agents of Governments personally in terms of Tone I am hoping more along the lines of all 5 of the Murdoc Episodes, The Wall, Deathlock (well really all of Season 1) etc
Which it seems like they are doing which makes me quite happy
3. Macgyver doesn't use a gun EVER and always uses his intelligence.
Over all I am quite happy with this potential remake and will enjoy watching the news for more info
|Posted by: WhatMeWorry? 5 October 2015 - 02:26 PM|
| Ugh... I am not happy about this.
I am sick and tired of all the reboots/sequels. Hollywood is too lazy to come up with original ideas these days, and they have failed over and over again with these reboots. There is no reason to believe that this project will be treated any better.
I suspect that the premise of the TV show will be similar to James Wan's now-defunct MacGyver movie premise. Wan's MacGyver "gets blamed for something that he had designed... and now someone has weaponized it and everyone’s coming after him. He’s running for his life and he’s trying to clear his name, not quite unlike the structure of ‘Enemy of the State.’"
I'm sorry but this is just not Mac at all!. This story line is for something completely different than what 'MacGyver' was. Why not just make this it's own show and leave the MacGyver name out of it? I have very little hope that this show will capture the essence of what made the original great.
|Posted by: KiwiTek 5 October 2015 - 06:22 PM|
| The rumour mill appears to be in full swing now with this......
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 5 October 2015 - 06:32 PM|
|He does look a lot like RDA I will give him that much. He was also on Smallville playing Green Arrow but he is in his 30's and the blurb sagas Mac will be in his 20's however if it is Justin I will reserve judgment until I see promo pics of him.|
|Posted by: KiwiTek 5 October 2015 - 07:13 PM|
No cussing, drinking or violence.
It has to strictly uphold the values of the original show otherwise they might as well just call it something else.
|Posted by: denizen 5 October 2015 - 08:21 PM|
| RDA was relatively unknown when he did MacGyver. It makes sense to keep tradition and hire a new unknown for this.
Hiring an unknown has its benefits. If people such as myself are fixated on hating the actor such as Hartley, they will already build negative expectations of the show. BUT if you know nothing about the star, you come more open to the party.
Saying that, yes. PLEASE do not make the new MacGyver Justin Hartley.
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 6 October 2015 - 01:02 AM|
|I don't know this guy at all. I think the new guy should at least 'breath' MacGyver.|
|Posted by: denizen 6 October 2015 - 01:47 AM|
| Hartley apparently became known for starring in Passions (Need I say more) before being in Smallville. He also 38 years of age so he's too old for the role.
Macgyver12186's suggestions for Nolan Gerard Funk as the new Mac was a great idea, methinks!
|Posted by: Viriato 6 October 2015 - 06:37 AM|
I'm' afraid so!
Lets hope not but I'm really not that convinced!
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 6 October 2015 - 08:09 AM|
I am hoping this is more Casino Royale then Young Macgyver honestly..
|Posted by: MacsJeep 6 October 2015 - 10:15 AM|
| Have you seen RDA's response to some of this lol?! This is from his website. Aww bless!
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 6 October 2015 - 12:03 PM|
|so when do we think the next big news will drop regarding this? I am assuming it's being planned for the Fall 2016 Spring 2017 tv season.|
|Posted by: Mr Duct Tape 6 October 2015 - 01:05 PM|
|We could hear something regarding the cast till the end of the year it's my bet.|
|Posted by: Barry Rowland 6 October 2015 - 06:59 PM|
|RDA is AWESOME!!!|
|Posted by: denizen 6 October 2015 - 08:45 PM|
| And i like RDA's response. A lot!
Unfortunately, its not up to him. So whether he approves or not, the studio will go ahead with it. It will most likely happen since Winckler & Wan are involved and currently Wan is a favourite among them.
I doubt it will be cheesy like the Young MacGyver spin off. But even that was not about Angus MacGyver anyway. This is the first time they are doing a prequel as such.
Getting someone like Hartley could be a rest assured campy ride which is why I hope they avoid that rumour like the plague.
No, we need a simple looking young man who has a personality trait that is the charm.
|Posted by: KiwiTek 6 October 2015 - 09:42 PM|
| There seems to be a lot of speculation in these news reports.
The only real facts we have from the original Hollywood reporter report and being constantly repeated is...
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 7 October 2015 - 08:17 AM|
Also Wan will Direct the pilot.
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 7 October 2015 - 09:46 AM|
Indeed. It's like everyone is awake all of a sudden.
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 7 October 2015 - 10:25 AM|
well lets be honest it's a chance at some new MacGyver episodes and hopefully amazing episodes that we all enjoy
|Posted by: WhatMeWorry? 9 October 2015 - 06:07 PM|
I highly suspect that this will be "reboot" or "re-visioning" with the character of MacGyver being younger than in the original, rather than a prequel. I don't think this new show will necessarily have any connection to the original.
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 10 October 2015 - 06:06 AM|
| Which as much as this isn't going to make me friends I feel I have three controversial opinions regarding this
1. Macgyverism: I feel writers should be allowed of reuse Macgyverims provided it make sense. Don't reuse full scenes from the original show but if for example there is another reason Macgyver need to build and ultralight let him.
2. Let the characters develop naturally in the original show Mike and Macgyver never developed a relationship beyond friendship but in the rebbots of the actor and actress have undeniable chemstry let a relationship develop on the new show
3. Keep Macgyver natural resourceful and basically the same it seems they want to focus on secret agent Macgyver from the first three seasons and I am fine with that. Personally I would love for them to redelvope stealth action the whole scene in the original mission impossible film where Hunt is in the CIA headquarters and the entire audience is holding their breath that kind of action could develop nicely in Macgyver reboot
|Posted by: Mr Duct Tape 11 October 2015 - 10:04 AM|
| A thought came to my mind in the last few days after hearing the news of a new MacGyver series.
Maybe if this new series is actually good and picks up, who knows if we could expect a blu-ray release of the original series?!
It would be awesome, although not probable I know.
|Posted by: denizen 11 October 2015 - 09:00 PM|
|MacGyver is certainly popular enough to warrant something like a Blu Ray release however I doubt they will coincide a BD release with the new series. If it becomes a hit, there is a high chance it could happen.|
|Posted by: angus20 20 October 2015 - 06:21 AM|
| yeah even with the 30th anniversary we didn't get the BR, but well I'd like to see how things move around all the sudden a shocking news for a new series.
The problem with Magyver is that RDA is such a brand for the character (don't get me wrong I think there is no one better than him) that it's almost impossible to expect a show with out him, even in the comic looks like him. 30 years ago they made the best possible decision ever by hiring him!
|Posted by: KiwiTek 20 October 2015 - 12:07 PM|
No it didn't.
The specifically made the comic NOT look like RDA.
|Posted by: denizen 20 October 2015 - 08:36 PM|
| People are too fixated on RDA and I understand why. But the role of MacGyver can quite comfortably be played by other stars. It's not a difficult role to play. Despite genuine attributes, RDA has himself stated that he is more like Jack O' Neal in real life.
The "new" series will be "new". We will probably enjoy it if we see it live on its own ground. It will never match up to the original simply because the original has become iconic over time. But it also depends on whether they do it right.
Only time will tell...(sigh)
|Posted by: Viriato 21 October 2015 - 12:54 AM|
Really?! I didn't know that, why was it?
|Posted by: KiwiTek 21 October 2015 - 02:32 AM|
Because Lee Zlotoff is trying to move the franchise forward and away from being so strongly associated with RDA. One of the big reasons for that is that they can't use RDA's likeness without his permission and they don't want to have to be getting his permission every time they do something - also they want the franchise to move beyond RDA so it can continue after he's retired.
|Posted by: Viriato 21 October 2015 - 03:15 AM|
Well, that makes sense! Thanks!
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 21 October 2015 - 09:19 AM|
| Like I said we have 2 NON RDA macgyver sources
the much forgotten Macgyver on Ice Book
Macgyver Fugitive gauntlet
And again the issue of Character vs actor is a tough one
Talking about 007 for example I love Connery's performance as much as the next guy but I am glad EON moved on from him does that men I love every film and every actors performance no some films were stinkers (moonraker) and some actors didn't quite work (Lazenby was good but out of his league, Moore lacked the toughness but was a good bond and Brosnan made 4 great Remington Steele films ) but For every mis step there is a saving grace of a film (even In the brosnan era I don't Hate Tomorrow Never Dies and half of Die another Day makes sense and is a strong film it's just really half way through Iceland the film turns into a whacky comedy and just... yeah Also the Craig and Dalton eras)
I guess I am more excepting of change then some of the older members of this board largely due to my tastes in music (my favorite band Yes has I think 24-28 lineups and 19 members so with a love of as band like that you either get used to change or you don't lol) so moving on past RDA as MacGyver is ok with me provided they go for the right actor (who in my mind is Nolan Gerald Funk) I think a reboot can not only work but be really good. Like I said in spite of how others view the original not much needs to be changed Ok a slightly grittier feel and having DXS perhaps be a spin off From Homeland security (putting mac at the front lines of the war on terror so to speak) but out side of that Yeah the character of Macgyver is pretty timeless that it could work in 2016 just as easily as it worked in 1985. Just spitballing here of course but if casted right I think the new MacGyver series could be amazing
|Posted by: denizen 21 October 2015 - 09:05 PM|
|Macgyver12186, I totally agree with you. It all depends on how they develop the series. For its time, MacGyver was a realistic series based on mild to extreme situations. The new series would have to be on that mind-set too. Unlike the rebooted Knight Rider where its campiness took over and its irrelevance to the original show. They had a direction but it took them too long to get there.|
|Posted by: Mr Duct Tape 3 February 2016 - 01:43 AM|
| It seems things are finally moving forward in this new version, in that CBS apparently ordered a new pilot.
|Posted by: Mac2Nite 23 June 2016 - 08:51 AM|
| Okay... So I was a huge naysayer when all of this was announced... to include the casting... But now... having seen the series' promo trailer... I'm intrigued... it looks like they're trying to keep the original spirit of MacGyver.. just updated... Mac could lose the long hair though... too girly looking even for 2016. And his referencing his "Dad always told him everything you need is right in front of you" sounds like he's the son of the original Mac... or someone just like him
Anyway.. I am finally looking forward to watching the premiere
|Posted by: denizen 23 June 2016 - 08:36 PM|
|Personally i never got the impression that the original MacGyver was his father. I just suspected he was referring to his dad. Its only natural to be influenced by your family and for them to guide you in the right direction in life. He only states that his dad says that everything he ever needs is right in front of him. As to how MacGyver implemented that into his life is another story. It could be fair to assume he at least got something good out of his father before he died.|