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Posted by: lexscape 18 September 2011 - 07:40 PM

Here it is.......drum roll please........the jacket is made by Chevignon. Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260856841135#ht_518wt_1299 I have a video production company and I was able to blow up a freeze frame of the jacket when MacGyver took it off. I think it was in the episode where he was skiing and there was some microfilm put in his ski pole. Now, the label itself, wasn't quite legible, but if you look at the pattern of the label and compare it to Chevignon, there's no question. The jacket I have listed is a Chevignon jacket, but my label is slightly different. Chevignon has several different labels on that particular jacket. Notice that MacGyver's zipper is on the opposite side-like you would have to zip it up with your left hand. Also, notice the criss cross stitching on the wind flap. I have bought many Raider jackets over the years, and nothing comes close. I even bought the one from the link on this forum's store site. It is a very nice jacket, but it's not like the Chevignon jacket. It's more like the one MacGyver had in the later seasons, with the white lining. At some point they retired the Chevignon he wore. It's almost like they made a version as close as they could, which they did for the stunt jacket. Notice in the episode where MacGyver trips the bully in the parking lot when he tries to stomp on the jacket. The frames where it's pulled up from under him shows the jacket didn't have the tartan lining, but a white lining, and then the tartan lining again. They used the "double" so the Chevignon wouldn't get messed up. Notice the episode where MacGyver was held captive when the Phoenix Foundation is taken over. The stunt guy runs down the stairs exposing the "B" jacket or stunt jacket, with the white lining. My Chevignon jacket has the identical tartan lining from the earlier seasons. Now, Chevignon made many jackets with the zippered front. Be careful, because there are some models that look like MacGyver's at first glance, but without the tartan lining, and perhaps without the dark brown elastic wrist and waist bands, etc.

Posted by: lexscape 18 September 2011 - 07:50 PM

Not sure if the link worked...http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Chevignon-Brown-Leather-Flight-Jacket-/260856841135?pt=US_CSA_MC_Outerwear&hash=item3cbc4783af#ht_518wt_1398

Posted by: Makedde 18 September 2011 - 10:30 PM

I hope the seller has enough of those, because I plan on buying one!

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 18 September 2011 - 10:34 PM

Yep I think you've done it.

That looks exactly like MacGyver's jacket.

Excellent work!

QUOTE (Makedde)

I hope the seller has enough of those, because I plan on buying one!

Looks like it's just the one jacket. Also looks like it's only available within the US.

I just checked out http://www.chevignon.com/index.php?rub=legend. It looks like they still make the flight jackets, but not that exact style any more.

Posted by: lexscape 19 September 2011 - 03:32 AM

It's available world-wide. I just need to figure out how to make that clear on Ebay. I'm just not sure how to calculate shipping for that. That isn't the only jacket I have. I own four...-2 extra larges, one large (that's posted, now,) and one medium that I had a leather expert make slightly bigger. Can someone please tell me how I can post pics to this forum? I'd like to show pics from my collection so people can compare how the brands differ from each other in color and texture. I will say the closet jacket to the Chevignon, in my collection is made by Scully, however, that's relatively speaking. Nothing even comes close to the softness and texture of that particular Chevignon jacket. The way it's distressed almost almost helps it sparkle, the way it catches light. This is why MacGyver's jacket sometimes looked like it was wet, depending on the lighting. That particular jacket is also extremely rare. I would say about one jacket pops up about every two years or so for sale online. It would be great to get Chevignon to re-release that jacket, especially since the movie is coming out. Maybe it could be the MacGyver special edition jacket, kind of like Marty McFly's futuristic Nike Shoes from recent. Chevignon may not know that Richard Dean Anderson used their brand to make their jacket famous.

Posted by: MacAlon 19 September 2011 - 04:12 PM

lexscape, thank you very much for the info!!
It´s the most important information of the MacGyver world fans!!

Posted by: MacDriver 19 September 2011 - 06:59 PM

QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 19 September 2011 - 06:37 PM)

Yep I think you've done it.

That looks exactly like MacGyver's jacket.

Excellent work!

QUOTE (Makedde)

I hope the seller has enough of those, because I plan on buying one!

Looks like it's just the one jacket. Also looks like it's only available within the US.

I just checked out http://www.chevignon.com/index.php?rub=legend. It looks like they still make the flight jackets, but not that exact style any more.

If you want one I can always take care of shipping it

EDIT: I just read down a few posts and caught that he is doing worldwide shipping, never mind.

Posted by: lexscape 19 September 2011 - 07:58 PM

Here is the picture proof...

Posted by: lexscape 19 September 2011 - 08:00 PM

Here is the one I have that is a size Large...

Posted by: lexscape 19 September 2011 - 08:01 PM

Here is the back of it...

Posted by: lexscape 19 September 2011 - 08:01 PM

It's a very soft leather..

Posted by: lexscape 19 September 2011 - 08:07 PM

Notice that there were more than one jacket...

Posted by: lexscape 19 September 2011 - 08:08 PM

more than one jacket...

Posted by: Makedde 19 September 2011 - 08:31 PM

Hope this guy can wait until next week when I can buy it. Assuming I get in before you guys!

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 19 September 2011 - 10:59 PM

QUOTE (Makedde @ 20 September 2011 - 04:34 PM)

Hope this guy can wait until next week when I can buy it. Assuming I get in before you guys!

um... it's an auction... so whoever has the highest bid when it closes in 3 days time wins it. There's no waiting until next week.

Posted by: Beachbead 20 September 2011 - 01:36 PM

Now we know who made the brown jacket, and I wish i had the money to get this baby, but I'm straped for cash.

on ebay there are more then a few that look like MacGyver's jacket.

[URL=ebay jackets]http://www.ebay.com/sch/Mens-Clothing-/1059/i.html?_nkw=avirex+leather+jacket[/URL]

Posted by: Makedde 20 September 2011 - 10:08 PM

QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 20 September 2011 - 07:02 PM)

QUOTE (Makedde @ 20 September 2011 - 04:34 PM)

Hope this guy can wait until next week when I can buy it. Assuming I get in before you guys!

um... it's an auction... so whoever has the highest bid when it closes in 3 days time wins it. There's no waiting until next week.

I wonder if he'll be selling anymore? Or if he'd accept that I'll buy it and hold it for me...

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 20 September 2011 - 11:00 PM

Ask him.

Posted by: Makedde 22 September 2011 - 12:20 AM

After further reading the description, I don't want this jacket. Maybe another one. I don't want it with signs of wear and it should have working zipper!

I'd happily get another one as long as it was in excellent condition.

Posted by: Beachbead 22 September 2011 - 07:54 AM

before they sold it they should of fixed the zipper.

Posted by: lexscape 22 September 2011 - 06:11 PM

The zipper does work, but it's just missing the little piece that you pull with your fingers. I may be able to fix that. It came that way when I bought it. Another one of my jackets was the same way, and I fixed it with a charm and a small piece of metal. I've never worn that jacket, so I didn't notice the zipper until I was taking pictures of it for Ebay. Every jacket I own came with some signs of wear. Even MacGyver's jacket shows signs of wear, especially in the picture of I posted of him kissing Penny Parker. Look at the back of it. There may be more out there in perfect or excellent condition, but I would guess that would be the exception instead of the rule. I've been searching the web for almost a decade and have found only four. This jacket shows minimal signs of wear, since it's mainly under the arm, which is not that visible. I also forget to mention that another thing that makes this jacket unique from other company's versions is that the zippered front pockets slant in a diagonal direction, just like MacGyver's. Notice that on the other "similar" style jackets the zippered front is more straight or horizontal to the waistline. So far from my personal research that seems to be a Chevignon trait. Thanks for the interest though fellow fans! By the way, I think in the episode where MacGyver's in Budapest with the gypsy kid, you can get a glimpse of the Chevignon label.

Posted by: MacAlon 23 September 2011 - 01:47 AM

This jacket is not bad, although I prefer the new G-2 of MacGyver (Blood Brothers, The Invisible Killer...). I think the new G-2 is made by Gibson-Barnes. I say this, especially the detail of how they are made the horizontal pockets of the jacket.
I can see one of the old Gibson Barnes Raider G-2 in lambskin and I think it´s the same second brown jacket of MacGyver.
Another thing that makes me think it's a G & B is the sleeve, made of only two pieces (one back and other piece front). The Avirex, in the back of the sleeves, were made with two pieces of leather and one on front.

Posted by: lexscape 23 September 2011 - 04:00 AM

Okay. Compare for yourselves. The color and texture on the Gibson-Barnes is way off from the Chevignon. One unique thing you'll notice on MacGyver's jacket that I haven't seen on other models is the cut and lay of his collar. Notice how the Chevignon collar has a nice flat triangular shape and the Gibson-Barnes is more of an "elephant ear" style. The elastic wrist bands and waistline on the Chevignon are dark brown. I didn't want to go with the light brown that comes on the Gibson-Barnes so I had them customize mine with black. Also notice the armpit area of MacGyver's jacket around the backside. It seems to layer out or puff off, since the leather is so soft. The Gibson-Barnes jacket is more of a hard line cut. If the Gibson-Barnes people made the 2nd version of MacGyver's jacket in the later seasons, they obviously customized one based on the original, but it's not the one they sell to the public.

Posted by: lexscape 23 September 2011 - 04:01 AM

Here's the back...

Posted by: MacAlon 25 September 2011 - 11:33 PM

Hello!
Beautifull jackets!!
lexscape, the Gibson&Barnes is cowhide leather? called nappa (cowhide)?
How old is this G&B?
I had one jacket similar, but the size 40R was small for me. I have now a raider goatskin russet G&B and it´s a perfect jacket.

Posted by: Beachbead 26 September 2011 - 03:04 PM

Jackets looks nice did you buy it?

Posted by: macgybl 1 October 2011 - 06:23 PM

What would today's closet jacket be?

Something that can be bought online and in stock?

Posted by: angus20 1 October 2011 - 06:49 PM

Incredible jacket, believe it is the classic one, the one we could see in the first seasons, later on, they changed the jacket to another truly similar but without the red colors you can see inside the jacket.

Good luck to the guy who buy it!

Posted by: lexscape 6 October 2011 - 07:38 AM

Here are my four MacGyver jackets.

Posted by: lexscape 6 October 2011 - 07:43 AM

Here are all my flight jackets. I've been looking for the "real deal" since I was in Middle School. If you're like me, you're not satisfied unless it's the exact one MacGyver wore on the show.

Posted by: Beachbead 6 October 2011 - 09:42 AM

wow thats alot of Jackets.

Posted by: lexscape 10 October 2011 - 05:31 PM

The ebay transaction was reversed, since the buyer didn't like the way the leather smelled. All four of my Chevignon jackets came that way. I think it's just that particular leather. So...I now have all four jackets, again, and I plan on selling at least two.

Posted by: KiwiTek 10 October 2011 - 11:52 PM

sweet!

and... his loss.

What do they smell like? is it a musty smell?

Posted by: lexscape 11 October 2011 - 12:59 AM

Yeah...that's a good description. I may box them up in newspaper and/or fabric softener for a few days and see if that minimizes it, but I'm pretty sure it's just the way that particular leather smells. Personally, it doesn't bother me. I wear mine all the time.

Posted by: angus20 21 October 2011 - 05:59 PM

Great collection, your room seems to be the "dressing room" of the MacGyver first season.

Posted by: lexscape 10 November 2011 - 07:33 PM

Here is the size Large (left) and Medium (right) side by side.

Posted by: Makedde 10 November 2011 - 09:01 PM

Are the zippers intact with these ones? Any marks, tears etc? What sizes do they come in?

Posted by: MiracleMac 12 November 2011 - 07:55 AM

Yeah, that looks like the MacGyver jacket. The same

Posted by: Makedde 12 November 2011 - 04:32 PM

If they are in perfect condition, with working zippers, I might be interested in buying the large one.

Posted by: KiwiTek 12 November 2011 - 05:14 PM

I think people need to understand, these are antique jackets. They are probably at least 20 years old and second hand. Perfect condition isn't going to be an option.

Come on people. These are the real MacGyver jackets. The exact brand and style he wore in the show and this could well be the only chance you ever get to buy the real thing. Hell, I'd buy one right now if I lived in the US. Slight imperfections caused by wear and tear can only make it even more MacGyverish.

Posted by: Makedde 14 November 2011 - 12:24 AM

^of course I don't mean perfect as in no tears or creases. By perfect I mean actually wearable, and the zipper must be in working order. If it is, I'll buy one.
I wonder when lexscape is returning, because I am seriously considering buying one.

KiwiTek, why can't you buy one? I'm in Australia and if I am able to I'll buy one. I have never bought anything from the US though so it will be interested to see the difference in price, and postage.

Posted by: lexscape 22 November 2011 - 04:58 PM

Hey Guys,

Actually, I've already sold those two jackets, so I'll only have the two extra larges, now, and I don't plan on selling those at the moment. I'll let you know if I find any more.

Posted by: Fellow Traveler 8 February 2012 - 11:28 AM

So, does anyone know what kind of leather the original jacket is made from? Is it goatskin?

Posted by: MacBeth 10 February 2012 - 05:31 PM

Most leather jackets of this type made and worn in the US are cowhide.

Zipper hardware takes a major beating and is often first to fail. Likewise, the fabric lining of a good leather jacket will lose integrity and begin to shred while the leather is still good. Jackets can be relined and damaged zippers can be replaced; I've refurbished several vintage leather jackets, including one from the Korean War.

Posted by: Fellow Traveler 12 February 2012 - 10:31 AM

But I guess the Chevignon wasn't made in the U.S., as it's a French company. If the leather really is that super soft, as itis claimed to be, then I believe it might be goat: tough, soft and supple: perfect for an adventurer like Mac.

Posted by: SammyJoe 9 March 2012 - 02:27 PM

Have any of the real jackets that RDA actually wore during the show been ever sold or gotten to any fans collections?

Posted by: Fellow Traveler 22 March 2012 - 12:34 PM

Do we know how many they actually had for the production? There were obviously two different jackets used by RDA and I think someone here mentioned that's because jacket #1 must have been destroyed beyond repair from all the abuse it had to take. Maybe they had a couple of stunt-jackets, but they wouldn't have to be 100% like Mac's. I never paid that much attention to the stunt jackets.
That leaves us with jacket #2. And unless there is an episode in which Mac had to destroy the jacket in order to save himself, that should still be around somewhere, I guess. Maybe in the costume department, maybe in RDA's closet.
It would be really interesting to find out about it's whereabouts!

Posted by: KiwiTek 22 March 2012 - 08:28 PM

QUOTE (SammyJoe @ 10 March 2012 - 11:30 AM)

Have any of the real jackets that RDA actually wore during the show been ever sold or gotten to any fans collections?

Yes I've seen one of the black flight jackets with orange lining on ebay, complete with certificate of authentication.

Posted by: Fellow Traveler 22 March 2012 - 10:24 PM

But I guess you didn't take a screenshot?

Posted by: Matt 17 September 2012 - 02:47 PM

Hello everyone. I just joined MacGyver Online today and thought I would post a lot of the information I've obtained over the last few years searching for different G-2 jackets. If anyone has any questions regarding G-2 jackets such as general features compared to the Chevignon version or styles of fit from different brands etc, I can be of some help with this as I own a Gibson & Barnes Raider, several of the Avirex, Schott, and Scully versions, an Adam Spencer version, and a Taylor's Leatherwear G-2. I'll start by listing the brands I know of that have made this style of jacket. Some of these brands are much harder to find than others. Many do appear on eBay from time to time though. The reason I wanted to do this is so that it gives everyone who likes this style of jacket an even better chance of finding one to similar to the Chevignon on eBay.

1. Avirex (Have made G-2's with a tartan lining but I've yet to see one with the black and red like the Chevignon. Every time I've seen an Avirex with a lining like this, it has a been a combination of blue, teal, and green color. Someone posted a picture of a black one with this lining on one of the forums about the jacket some time ago and there is one available on eBay right now: http://www.ebay.com/itm/INCREDIBLE-VINTAGE-AVIREX-USN-TYPE-G-2-LEATHER-FLIGHT-JACKET-TALON-ZIPPER-42-/261072181985?pt=Vintage_Men_s_Clothing&hash=item3cc91d5ae1

2. Schott
3. Adam Spencer
4. Reed Sportswear (Very similar to the Schott version.)
5. Cessna Planes Hangar 10 (Very similar to the Schott version.)
6. Gibson & Barnes
7. Q-Gar Leather Wingman (Similar to typical G-2, only this one has shoulder epaulets.)
8. Scully style 714-12 (Different versions of this jacket have been made over time. The earlier ones have a black square logo with Scully written in gold letters on the inside of the jacket where tags/size marking are normally located on a jacket while the newer ones have a white square logo with Scully written in gold letters. The earlier ones with the black logo have more of a slim fit and are not readily available anymore while the newer ones are a bit roomier.)
9. Taylor's Leatherwear (Similar to the Avirex G-2.)
10. Chevignon (They made other flight jackets also, many of which were similar but missing details such as the storm flap, plaid lining, etc.)
11. Jasper Air (Zipper pockets in the front like other G-2's, however it has shoulder epaulets, button closures on the end of the sleeves, and a ribbed waistband made of leather.)
12. Tobruk (Has the two zipper pockets on the same downward slant and dark knit cuffs & waistband like the Chevignon, but has an external storm flap with buttons at the bottom and the top near the collar typical of many leather jackets.

13. Carla's of New York. I saved this one for last because I found it only yesterday on eBay and for a second, literally thought I had found the actual Chevignon G-2 that Lexscape has. Carla's was a women's brand available in the 60's, 70's, and 80's. They made a jacket that was nearly identical to the Chevignon G-2. It even had the vertical zig zag stitching on the storm flap like the Chevignon. Better yet, the sizing in this jacket ran close to a man's size and could be unisex depending on the person. To put it in perspective, I'm 155 lbs and 5'10" and the size 6 would have almost fit me except for the sleeves being maybe an inch short. Has anyone heard of this brand? This is the link from when it was still for sale but one has to scroll down to see the picture since the auction is over: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Carla-New-York-distressed-brown-leather-flight-jacket-bomber-size-6-80s-/190725808138?item=190725808138&ViewItem=&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123&nma=true&si=YmYfnawe75ouwLq7MrCuzrFtx4Y%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

In closing, I'd like to mention that the jacket I wear the most is one of the original versions by Scully since this is the closest to the Chevignon that I've found so far. The knit cuffs and waistband were light brown so I had them replaced with black. Also, I had the storm flap shortened and cut a bit to resemble the Chevignon one, along with a decorative zig zag stitch pattern added to it. I hope some of this is useful to someone. I'm looking forward to meeting everyone and as I mentioned earlier, feel free to ask questions regarding these jackets or anything MacGyver related.

Posted by: Matt 25 September 2012 - 06:38 AM

Here are some examples of flight jackets by Chevignon that were for sale around the same time as Mac's G-2:

I considered bidding on this one but finally decided I'd rather save the money since it isn't really like the G-2 at all. Still, looks to be in great shape for its age.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Flight-jacket-Chevignon-flying-leather-Cowhide-Steerhide-L-44-/261098053067

Here's a second one from eBay.fr that has the same type of slanted zipper pockets:

http://cgi.ebay.fr/tres-beau-blouson-CHEVIGNON-plein-cuir-caramel-taille-XXL--/300784001838?pt=FR_V%C3%AAtements_pour_hommes&hash=item46081fa32e

Third, is another from eBay.fr that is very distressed looking. It has almost the same patina that Mac's did right before they switched to that dark colored new G-2 in the later seasons.

http://cgi.ebay.fr/Giubbotto-pelle-Chevignon-originale-old-flight-jacket-da-collezione-tg-L-uomo-/261103423231?pt=Giubbini_Giacconi_e_Cappotti_uomo&hash=item3ccafa0eff

This one is the kind that I mentioned in the above jacket brand info. post. While almost the same coat as Mac's G-2, it lacks the plaid lining and the storm flap is on the left side of the coat while Mac's had it on the right side. Also, the storm flap on this one is the much more common exterior style with a button at the bottom where the zipper starts and one at the top where the zipper meets the collar. The style of flap on Mac's coat is rare these days and the jackets that do have them usually have the flap stitched underneath the zipper all the way up the length of the coat to the collar; not the one that ends halfway up the coat like Mac's did.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330790765845?nma=true&si=tTIMwMF0pOlgyhLASVOshVf24I8%3D&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2557&orig_cvip=true

As with the one directly above, this jacket is pretty close as well except once again it lacks the plaid lining and style of storm flap Mac's had.

http://www.priceminister.com/offer/buy/150985684/cpl150985685/chevignon-blouson-cuir-marron-taille-xl.html

I always check all the eBay sites. Many times, one can find many more Chevignon products by searching through eBay Italy, France, UK, etc. Even if you're just looking to find pictures and info. about the other types of jackets & products Chevignon made in the 80's or now, it's very helpful. Also, by using Google France sometimes there are jackets like this for sale on sites like the above priceminister.com etc.

Posted by: Matt 25 September 2012 - 04:34 PM

I meant to put this in above post, but I was curious as to whether anyone was interested in putting a MacGyver costume together based on what he looks like in the first issue of the comic series? If so, the jacket he has on looks a bit like the original Members Only bomber jackets:

http://www.etsy.com/listing/85331837/mens-brown-members-only-leather-bomber

The jacket in the above picture is a vintage one from the 80's and that particular color is no longer available unless one finds them on eBay, etc.

However, the company is still making these and the newer versions of this coat still come in a variety of colors. Here is one in a color the company calls "caramel" on their website. This is basically a dark brown. Here's a pic of it:

http://www.membersonlyoriginal.com/products/members-only-classic-bomber-jacket

Aside from the shoulder epaulets on this coat, its pretty close to the pics in the previews from "Fugitive Gauntlet." Any brown motorcycle jacket with a standup collar and button up neck strap would do the trick though. There are tons of coats like this out there.

Posted by: Matt 14 November 2012 - 04:34 PM

MacGyver Online member SAK2 and I have been exchanging emails, discussing various brands that manufacture the G-2 jacket and I was told that the Hein Gericke leather company makes a G-2. I was not aware that they made a jacket like this until today. Many thanks to SAK2 for letting me know about this one

There is one on eBay right now if anyone would like to see what they look like. Click the following link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hein-Gericke-Original-NEW-Brown-Leather-Motorcycle-Jacket-WWII-Aviator-Style-Med-/230876660102?pt=Apparel_Merchandise&hash=item35c1524186&vxp=mtr

While a little different from the other G-2's, it still has the main features. It should be noted that these are motorcycle jackets too. SAK2 mentioned that they're heavy and very tough like other motorcycle jackets. I'm thinking the quality is similar to that of the now discontinued G-2 "Paris" jacket that can be seen here after scrolling down:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Taylors-Leatherwear-G2-Paris-Jacket-3125-/290788362652?item=290788362652&ViewItem=&nma=true&si=x4%2Fh6Vv14032o1cQ3uu%2FrUkiZQ8%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I used to have the Paris model and it is very heavy duty. Definitely a cold weather jacket.

Posted by: lexscape 24 January 2013 - 05:09 PM

Here's another live Ebay auction, but they want quite a bit for it. I think this is a size Large, but it's a Chevignon like the ones I have. Other than the style of the tag, it's the real deal. Looks like it's in Paris. Here's the link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JACKET-BLOUSON-CUIR-MacGyver-AVIATOR-CHEVIGNON-/281055322321?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14133%26meid%3D5112205896076606014%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1085%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D281055322321%26

Posted by: KiwiTek 24 January 2013 - 07:38 PM

That's a hell of a lot of money for a jacket!!

Posted by: macgybl 18 February 2013 - 06:07 AM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271153229855?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Just bought one

Posted by: Fellow Traveler 19 February 2013 - 12:14 AM

Congrats! Let us see more pictures once you receive the jacket!

Posted by: Fellow Traveler 5 March 2013 - 11:20 AM

Has anyone ever asked the people at Gibson Barnes if they can make a Raider in a lighter color, not the two dark browns they offer? That might be an alternative.

Posted by: MacFan092985 5 March 2013 - 03:42 PM

I own a SCHOTT version of Mac's bomber jacket. I'll post pictures soon (at work right now).

Posted by: Matt 20 March 2013 - 01:34 PM

QUOTE (lexscape @ 24 January 2013 - 08:09 PM)

This one has been relisted a few times. Every time it ends there are no bidders. My guess is because of the price. The seller tends to lower the price every once in a while with each new listing. Last I saw it got down to around $600.00 US but there were still no bidders. I'd really rather not pay that much haha but this is the size I want and it appears to be in decent shape.

Posted by: Matt 20 March 2013 - 01:42 PM

QUOTE (Fellow Traveler @ 5 March 2013 - 02:20 PM)

Has anyone ever asked the people at Gibson Barnes if they can make a Raider in a lighter color, not the two dark browns they offer? That might be an alternative.

On the first page of this thread, if one scrolls about 3/4 of a way down the page there is a picture posted by Lexscape that shows both the Chevignon and the light brown Gibson & Barnes Raider side by side for comparison. After purchasing my dark brown Raider, I emailed Gibson & Barnes to see if they still made them in this color but I didn't get a response back. I may try giving them a call. Lexscape also mentions that he had to have the knit cuffs and waistband customized with black because they were a lighter brown. I'm not sure how old that particular Raider model is. I can also say that though the Gibson & Barnes Raider is a 3 season jacket (depending on where one lives of course), it is quite a bit heavier than my Avirex, Schott, and Scully versions. I can wear it comfortably in winter and be quite warm. For those looking to get one, I'd recommend it. Gibson's is very well made and durable.

Posted by: Matt 20 March 2013 - 01:46 PM

QUOTE (MacFan092985 @ 5 March 2013 - 06:42 PM)

I own a SCHOTT version of Mac's bomber jacket. I'll post pictures soon (at work right now).

Nice, the Schott is one of my favorites and it definitely looks similar to the Chevignon, especially once broken in.

Posted by: MacFan092985 20 March 2013 - 06:32 PM

Is it possible to post pictures in the MacGyver Wardrobe section of the different versions/brands of the G-2 leather jackets RDA wore throughout the series?

Posted by: KiwiTek 20 March 2013 - 08:02 PM

There's only 2. The Chevignon and later on an unknown newer version.

Posted by: Fellow Traveler 21 March 2013 - 04:45 AM

QUOTE (Matt @ 21 March 2013 - 09:42 AM)

I had forgotten all about that! Yet I don't like the leather of that G&B. What is it made from? Goat or cow hide? It looks much too stiff and doesn't drape as well as the Chevignon does and the colour doesn't appeal to me as well. Still, the design is great.

Posted by: MacFan092985 21 March 2013 - 05:23 AM

I think the leather jacket Mac's wearing in "The Invisible Killer" looks like an Avirex, I'm basing this on the design of the main zipper pull tab. Just a guess on my part.

Posted by: Matt 21 March 2013 - 07:01 AM

QUOTE (Fellow Traveler @ 21 March 2013 - 07:45 AM)

My Raider is goatskin and the color is called dark vintage nappa. This is the lightest of the colors offered in this jacket, or at least it was when I purchased mine. They also said that this one starts out with a more vintage color than the other ones though it is still much darker than the Chevignon and the light brown Raider that Lexscape has. However, mine is still relatively new (4 years old) and while it shows signs of the lighter brown color already it takes many years for a jacket like this to achieve the color of the Chevignon.

The difference here, unless I'm mistaken, is that the Raider Lexscape has started out being that light color and is pretty new while many of these types of jackets didn't. For instance, I have seen a Chevignon and a Schott on eBay that were almost still as dark as my Gibson model. This more than likely means they were worn VERY little since a jacket that is 25+ years old will not retain the original patina when worn frequently. The Schott was a size 46 and actually sold just recently.

I agree when you say the Gibson doesn't drape as well as the Chevignon. However, there is a pretty big age difference as well. As the Gibson Raider ages, it will look more and more distressed and fit more like Mac's. Mine is starting to do this already and when I got it out of the box, it was somewhat stiff. Even with all this being said, Gibson's is still a different "cut." This is most noticeable in the collar and where the shoulder seams end. Again though, I have not seen a Gibson that is over 20 years old so I can't say for sure what they might look like down the road other than the fact that mine is lightening up and has definitely lost the stiffness which I'm liking : )

Posted by: MacFan092985 21 March 2013 - 04:21 PM

Below are two images of my Schott brand leather G-2 Raider. If I remember right, I bought it in 1988, my sophomore in high school. It needs to be oiled . . . the top of the collar is dried and cracking. I haven't worn it in years, but might start wearing it again.

The jacket lining is original. The pocket lining was initially a white cotton lining (the interior pocket still has this lining), but I wore a hole in the right angled pocket lining after repeatedly taking my sunglasses in and out, so I had the four front pockets re-lined with a mocha colored acetate like material.

The zipper pull tabs on the slash pockets were originally small links of gold colored chain with a slightly larger circle that you would actually pull to open and close the pocket. I figured since Mac had his slash pockets opened most of the time, I would do the same and removed the zipper pull tabs. They weren't accurate to begin with so I figured I'd just remove them. At the time, I didn't know 99% of the information I know now regarding the different makers of the G-2 jackets. We didn't have the internet then.

Posted by: Matt 21 March 2013 - 05:02 PM

Great looking jacket : )

Posted by: Fellow Traveler 22 March 2013 - 12:05 AM

+1

Edit:

For all you Americans out there: there is a close-enough bomber on ebay, ending in about two hours:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/261186180472?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_500wt_1187

Posted by: Fellow Traveler 24 March 2013 - 11:02 AM

For the Americans around here: there is another close-enough http://www.ebay.de/itm/251247779483?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_632wt_88 shortly.

Posted by: macgybl 2 December 2013 - 06:17 AM

The Newer Jacket shown in the later seasons looks like an avirex, the leather zipper pull and the tan lining are styles of the Avirex, can anyone confirm?

Posted by: Matt 7 January 2014 - 09:39 AM

Hi everyone, I wanted to post the below info. here first since macgybl sent me a message asking about the dark brown G-2 Raider worn by RDA in later seasons. As far as I know, nobody has been able to confirm the brand of the newer dark brown one. Many have mentioned the possibility of it being made by Gibson & Barnes or Avirex. It has also been compared to the G-2 worn by RDA in Season 3 and later in Stargate SG-1.

Anyway, the reason for posting this is because I may have found the answer. I've not heard of this brand prior to seeing an advertisement online but it seems the J. Peterman Co. out of Lexington Kentucky makes a G-2 that looks nearly identical to the one from Stargate and from the later seasons of MacGyver. It also looks like the Avirex and Gibson versions so this could answer those questions as well. The model number is No. 1970 and here is a link to their site with a pic of it: http://www.jpeterman.com/Lambskin-Flight-Jacket

Scroll down to the lower right of the screen for a real picture instead of the rough drawing in the center of the screen. Because you cannot see the storm flap or small leather zipper pull tab (also on the Avirex) check out this worn in one on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MENS-LAMBSKIN-LEATHER-JACKET-J-PETERMAN-COMPANY-/111251631306?pt=US_CSA_MC_Outerwear&hash=item19e71d2cca

Here is another on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/J-Peterman-Vintage-Leather-Coat-XXL-2XL-Bomber-Style-Very-Nice-Condition-/400636793400?pt=US_CSA_MC_Outerwear&hash=item5d47d05238

The seventh picture shows the top of the storm flap being a perfect 90 degree angle like the one from Stargate and the jacket later worn in MacGyver. The others, including the Schott & Chevignon, had a nice sloping shape at the top of the storm flap. The flap on the dark brown one used in the later seasons of MacGyver also appeared to be wider than the others which is a characteristic of this one as well.

Next, I thought I would mention that RDA's G-2 in "Legend of The Holy Rose Part 2" could have been a J. Peterman version since it had the larger storm flap with the squared off top. An example can be seen perfectly at 0:06 seconds in the following video clip where Mac is explaining the laser (or optical pump). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNL8QJJGtHU

Though the color of this one matches the older G-2's, it could have been aged or perhaps it was already relatively old when used for this episode. Note the J. Peterman jacket in the first eBay link I posted shows how this one will change to that light brown color like the others do. The Peterman also has the white lining like the Avirex minus the picture of the aviator. A pic of this can be seen in the 6th picture in the first eBay link.

Obviously, this is speculative but since I have never seen this brand mentioned on here I felt it was worthy of posting. I made a new thread about this as well hope others find this interesting

Posted by: Matt 30 January 2014 - 05:55 AM

If anyone is interested in the Scully G-2, there is a really nice looking distressed one on eBay right now at this link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scully-G-2-B-2-Flight-Bomber-Brown-Leather-Jacket-Macgyver-/171230215653?pt=US_CSA_MC_Outerwear&hash=item27de1dbde5

The seller is calling it a G-2 and mentions MacGyer in the title and description. It's a size small but I can say (having owned 2 size small jackets from Scully) that their size small definitely fits more like a medium (or 40-42 regular). In fact, the seller mentions this as well; further describing it as a jacket that can fit a person with a 44 in. chest who is 6'1" and 180 lbs.

To help put it more in perspective, I am 5'10" and weigh 152 lbs. and the small is a little big on me. I'm going to post all this in the MacGyver's Wardrobe thread which will be found on page 7 here: http://www.macgyveronline.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5712&st=180#.UupaWftO-Cc

Posted by: MacFan092985 25 April 2015 - 07:19 PM

While talking with RDA at Starfest, the topic of his brown leather jacket (I assume it was the chevignon one) came up. The reason behind this discussion will be referred to once I post pics of what I had him autograph. He said he used to wear it all the time (I assume he's referring to wearing it on the show and not off screen, but he didn't specify) and that now the sleeves are so short (he indicated how short by pointing to a spot on his forearm slightly above his wrist) due to the leather shrinking over time.

A couple of days after Starfest it hit me, given that the jacket no longer fits him, I should have seen if he would be willing to give it to me . . . in exchange for a donation to Sea Shepard.

Posted by: KiwiTek 25 April 2015 - 07:53 PM

QUOTE (MacFan092985 @ 26 April 2015 - 04:19 PM)

He talked about that in http://www.macgyveronline.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8051.

He would have meant he wore it all the time off set because he did in fact wear that jacket all the time. He was wearing it when he went in to read for the part and as he mentions in the interview they actually used his own jacket for a while when the show started.

He should have the jacket on display and charge people to go see it with all the profits going to Sea Sheppard.

Posted by: MacFan092985 26 April 2015 - 09:27 PM

QUOTE

He talked about that in my interview with him.

He would have meant he wore it all the time off set because he did in fact wear that jacket all the time. He was wearing it when he went in to read for the part and as he mentions in the interview they actually used his own jacket for a while when the show started.

I forgot that. It's been awhile since I listened to the interview.

QUOTE

He should have the jacket on display and charge people to go see it with all the profits going to Sea Sheppard. wink.gif

It would be cool if this jacket and any other clothing RDA still owns or can get ahold of that he wore on "MacGyver", "Stargate" and any other TV show or movie he's been in could be set up at the conventions RDA appears at, kind of like a traveling museum.

I hearby state that I would be willing to head up this traveling display.

Posted by: Gonzalo Paredes Cárdenas 3 February 2018 - 12:40 PM

Excuse me, where could I buy the flannel that is inside the jacket? or at least what colors are?

Posted by: spainmacgyver 14 February 2018 - 09:53 AM

QUOTE (Gonzalo Paredes Cárdenas @ 3 February 2018 - 12:40 PM)

Excuse me, where could I buy the flannel that is inside the jacket? or at least what colors are?

Hi Gonzalo Paredes Cárdenas. You mean the red, black, blue and green colored tartan lining?

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Original Tartan Left

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Original Tartan Charles Chevignon

Posted by: spainmacgyver 17 February 2018 - 02:14 AM

Hello Gonzalo Paredes Cárdenas. Here you have 2 links to choose the tartan.

https://www.ebay.es/itm/181798438037?ul_noapp=true

https://www.ebay.es/itm/192371066615?ul_noapp=true

Posted by: spainmacgyver 17 February 2018 - 02:24 AM

Look, this tartan you see in the jacket is one of the easiest to find, is very good. The other is more like the Charles Chevignon also because of the size of the pictures but is practically impossible to find. I got it in my city by chance and very expensive. I recommend that you take care of the size of the box. I have been able to investigate thoroughly because I have a Charles Chevignon and the tartan that has the Charles Chevignon is impossible to find the same currently. It is a tartan of the years 80 and it is logical that everything changes with the passage of time. I hope I could help you. Greetings, comrade.

Posted by: Gonzalo Paredes Cárdenas 6 April 2018 - 08:01 PM

Hello, I apologize, I would like to know if the exact color of the waistband of Mac's coat is black or it is a dark brown.

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 6 April 2018 - 09:31 PM

It's dark brown.

Posted by: Gonzalo Paredes Cárdenas 7 April 2018 - 07:55 AM

OK thank you very much

Posted by: macgybl 10 September 2019 - 06:06 PM

After watching the Invisible Killer, I can pretty much say the later season jacket *might* be an avirex G2. The Main zipper pull and the lining seem to match. Check out ebay and type avirex G2.