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1 - Poor [ 0 ] [0.00%] 2 - Average [ 0 ] [0.00%] 3 - OK [ 2 ] [11.76%] 4 - Good [ 7 ] [41.18%] 5 - Excellent [ 8 ] [47.06%] Total Votes: 17 Archived comments
QUOTE (Sonyab Sep 6 2004 @ 11:46 AM ) | Yeah this was a good episode!!! I loved it! He said he had a cousin in this episode but he didn't tell us which family she was from. He never talked about her again. So what happend to her? Did she die? Well obviously she died because he did say later he didnt have any family members.. So how did she die?
Oh another thing when he was tied to that bed thing with the hot sun they showed this guy that looked dead. When Mac cut himself out he grabbed the dead guy's belt I think. How did the guy die? MacGyver couldn't of killed him altho it did cross my mind but who killed the guy? |
QUOTE (Rockateer Sep 6 2004 @ 12:12 PM) | I thought the guy was just knocked out? |
QUOTE (MacGyverGod Sep 6 2004 @ 12:45 PM ) | Good episode. It learns us that plans can backfire and that you'll never know when you get hit in the *pow* face. We learn very little more about his past, his cousin, his mom and broiled chicken. Nice ending too maybe somewhat dramatic but nice. Truang is the worst. Thinks he's all big, bad and tough. Big? Yes. Fat? True too. Bad? Not a chance. Tough? No siree. But most of all incredible stupid. But then again this was only the second episode. So I might let slip this one through the fingers. |
QUOTE (Rockatteer Sep 6 2004 @ 06:22 PM ) | I loved the scene where the boy watches the chopper take off and cries becasue he thinks his only hope has left him.
Very moving scene. *whipes tear from eye*
The rest of the show was pretty good also... kinda kept the indiana jones feel to the show with being out in the jungle and stuff.
I'm guessing the ladies enjoyed the sun bathing scene and the fact that he wears a tank top for most of the show. |
QUOTE (MacGyver Sep 8 2004 @ 02:20 AM ) | "The Golden Triangle" is one of the first episodes I remember watching. For some reason, I don't think I remember watching the pilot as a child, but sometimes my memory gets weird and remembers some things from childhood and forgets others. Of course, sometimes I forget things that happened yesterday, but anyway.
I definitely loved the jungle traps that MacGyver helped the people set up. My favorite moment has to be watching MacGyver grab onto the helicopter as it's taking off and keeping the bad guys from escaping.
Yes, I also get a little misty-eyed at the part where the boy runs to hug MacGyver when he sees that he's come back. It was a very cool episode, filled with MacGyverisms and also an early look at how much MacGyver despises using guns. He refuses to teach the people how to use guns as weapons but shows them another way of fighting. I thought that was pretty significant. It's definitely one of my favorite 1st. season episodes. |
QUOTE ( zhennu Sep 9 2004 @ 09:24 AM ) | I thought when the chopper left, MacGyver wasn't coming back, but I slapped myself silly to get that straight! |
QUOTE (MacGyvergod Sep 10 2004 @ 02:56 AM ) | But I have to admit that it was neatly camouflaged cuz you can really see him going in the chopper and when the chopper left MacGyver is just standing there with his hands in his pockets. |
QUOTE (thyla Sep 21 2004 @ 09:15 AM) | Great epy. With that start (sunbathing, mmmmm....) it can't be bad. Also loved the ending. RDA seemed quite agile in that fighting scene. A natural athlete. Very nice jumping kick, good stance. Looked like he knew what he was doing (vs. actors who only learn some moves that look good on camera - but this is a whole other topic I can write pages about). We don't see him doing that very often in later episodes. |
QUOTE (rockatteer Sep 21 2004 @ 10:12 AM) | Did anyone else notice that in the first few Eps he was a good fighter, like he'd been trained to fight. (which you would expect from an ex-special forces agent) and then suddenly changes to doesn't like fighting and seemed quite clumsy in his fighting style? |
QUOTE (zhennu Sep 21 2004 @ 10:16 AM) | I slightly noticed that part, Rocka, but I ended up ignoring it saying to myself that he's lost practice (well, I have to disagree...his life has a lot of fighting, which SHOULD keep him in shape and practice! xD). I wonder why though...=/ |
QUOTE (MacGyverGod Sep 22 2004 @ 02:59 AM) | Usually he only needs one punch. Clumsy fighting style? Well sometimes he didn't hurt his hand, or he didn't care about it that it hurt. Maybe he adjusts his style depending on who he's fighting. Although he could've showed more of his skills as special forces agent. Well in The Golden Triangle and The Stringer you can see he changes his style. In the Golden Triangle he has almost a perfect fighting stance in front of General Narai. Also when he jumps up and tries to kick him and in The Stringer on the ship, when he jumps on that guy. Just look at him when he jumps up and down on his toes and then block, block, punch, punch. KNOCK OUT! |
QUOTE (Rockatteer Sep 22 2004 @ 10:13 AM) | The last fight scene in Target MacGyver he has good skills too. |
QUOTE ( MacGyverGod Sep 23 2004 @ 01:24 AM) | The Assassin was better!! |
QUOTE ( thyla Sep 23 2004 @ 08:41 AM) | I believe this falls under the "afterthought" and developing the character in a different direction than originally planned category (non-violence, anti-gun etc.)
You can see even in later episodes when he is supposed to be "clumsy", as Rock put it, that there is a definite martial arts training there that peeks through. There are several episodes, such as "Target MacGyver", where this is very obvious. I have noticed a certain affinity with the bo (fighting pike) for example.
I think using the "Hollywood one punch" approach was a conscious choice on his part to set Mac aside from other action heroes. |
QUOTE (MacGyverGod Sep 24 2004 @ 05:13 AM) | Don't you think that is sometimes boring? Bad guys kick good guys bum, good guys solve the whole thing with one single punch? It's good they had some decent fights in the series. But if you look at the moves, they both get equal moves to do. In Easy Target the fight had about 8 moves. 4 of Mac 4 of the other guy. Mac punches him, the guy hits him twice and kicks him twice, Mac punches him three times and wins. OK so there is still the rolling down the hill and throwing sand. But I meant fysical moves. |
QUOTE (Rockatteer Sep 24 2004 @ 09:54 AM ) | Yes it makes things more realistic if its evened out.
Although I still don't like the way people can be munched really hard and still be able to fight back. Thats abolute rubbish. real fights just don't work like that.
You pack a real puch at someones jaw, and they not going to get up again. Like wise if you pack a real kick at someone your going to break ribs and do internal damage...they may get up, but they won't be fighting back. |
QUOTE (MacGyverGod Sep 25 2004 @ 02:41 AM) | Just don't think about the pain but of course that's the only thing you can think about if they really kick your bum. But if someone ever hits me in the face they can expect a punch back. |
QUOTE (thyla Sep 25 2004 @ 07:55 AM) | Ok, several points:
QUOTE | QUOTE (rockatteer) Yes it makes things more realistic if its evened out. |
um.... actually not quite. In most fights (unless it's an organized sports event with certain rules) there is no eveness whatsoever. You don't punch and then wait for the other guy to punch back. There is nothing realistic about that. Go in first, go in fast, get as many hits in as possible and don't stop until you are sure the other guy won't get up.
QUOTE | QUOTE (rockatteer) Although I still don't like the way people can be munched really hard and still be able to fight back. Thats abolute rubbish. real fights just don't work like that. |
Actually, you can get hit really hard and still fight back. Of course, there are several factors that are usually present: - you are trained to be able to take hits. Most people never get hit so when it happens they usually freeze up. - the attack doesn't catch you in a vital area. Again, it helps to be trained to know which areas to protect and how to protect them. - don't ever discount the effects of good ol' adrenalin. Police officers can tell you cases where they shot a man several times and he still kept coming at them.
As far as fights in movies. They all follow a certain pattern. The good guy always gets kicked around first, the bad guy uses unfair tactics, but at the end the good guy prevails. Yes it's cliche, but hey, nobody wants to see the hero lose, right? Also, people have to train to do movie fights. First of all you do not want to hurt the other guy. Second, you have to fight with the camera in mind. The moves have to be slowed down. You have to make sure you do not block the camera angles. The fight is choreographed, etc, etc. There are certain moves that look good on camera (such as spinning back kicks or the infamous swinging hook, otherwise known as the sucker punch) but you would never use them in real life 'cause they are too slow and you'd have your bum handed to you if you'd try to use one of those on the street.
Now look what you've done! Ok, I get off my soap box.
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QUOTE (rockatteer Sep 25 2004 @ 10:29 PM) | I was refering to the average Joe. Not someone who is trained to fight. I also ment hit hard in somewhere like the jaw or solar plexis, which I guess would fall in the vital area catagory you refer to.
QUOTE | QUOTE But if someone ever hits me in the face they can expect a punch back. |
Ever been hit really hard in the face MG? |
QUOTE ( Asbjørn Jan 19 2006 @ 05:03 AM) | Back to the beginning of the episode. .. This is the one where Mac talks about the dog he had once, isn't it? (the one that had been abused)
- Can anyone find that quote for me? - The stuff he says about the dog and compares it to those supressed people.
And about the fight: Yes, it depends on your training, the camera angles etc, but I'm quite convinced that most ordinary people would get serious injuries from movie- style fights if they had happened for real... |
QUOTE ( MacsChick Jan 19 2006 @ 04:10 PM) | I like this one, too...the fight scenes, his decision to stick around and help the whole village, tied up and sweating, oh, and yes...the beach! That shot became the inspiration for my desktop! |
QUOTE (Lothithil Jan 20 2006 @ 03:44 AM) | If my memory serves, it goes something like this...
"A long time ago my cousin Ally got a dog from the pound... part Airdale, part Spaniel... real cute... but she'd been beaten. So all that puppy knew how to do was cower; cringe away from you, expecting to be hit. It's a real ugly thing to see in a dog... it's even worse in a human being." |
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Ah, it's this one. A lot of people seem to just hate this episode, mostly because they find it boring, overwrought, dramatic and lame. It is. But it has its good points, to be sure. However, this isn't exactly the best way to follow up a series pilot.
The main problem with this episode is probably the performances. Anderson is good, but he's not up to his standard. I liked George Cheung as Narai, and Keye Luke turns in exactly the performance that his fans would expect, but the rest aren't quite as good. In particular, Benjamin Lum as Truang has some major problems, mostly with being extremely dramatic and idiotic. These may have been character flaws, but Lum certainly had his part in the character's failure. As well, the story is a little boring- generic and weak.
The direction is fine, about up to the typical standard. The opening gambit is probably better than everything else- you could have flipped it with the episode, developing its story and reducing the episode's, and I think everything would have been better. There are a couple of impressive moments, but nothing for the record books. Overall, this is a missable episode.
My rating: 3/10

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very good episode loved it.
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As with the previous episode, some of the things that I thought of have already been discussed. I have some reflections though: I love this opening gambit as well. I know, it's been said many times, but the "hit in the face" line always cracks me up. We're starting to get a grip on MacGyver's sense of humor!  I find it very interesting that the episode starts with the sunbathing scene, where we find Mac conveniently stretched out, relaxing in the sun on the beach--and just a few scenes later he's tied up in a stretched out position, exposed to extreme heat and sunlight and left to die!  The scene when Mac returns from the chopper after returning the canister, just to help the people, is indeed heartwarming, and also shows what a sympathetic character he is--always willing to risk his life to help others! QUOTE | This is quite an enjoyable and fun episode to watch. I love the whole scene when Truang tells Narai that he made MacGyver talk. The way Narai turns to look at him completely unimpressed and then looks back at MacGyver who gives him that shrug. It's almost like both MacGyver and Narai are thinking the same thing. Makes me laugh every time. |
Me too. Another great example of his sarcastic sense of humor.  It was also touching to watch that despite the fact that the people were freed from their slave labor for the general, Mac was still saddened that the general had to die. Maybe that was why they didn't show his face at the end--it wasn't after all a 100% happy ending when someone had to get killed... A "good" rating from me.
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QUOTE (Sonyab Sep 6 2004 @ 11:46 AM ) |
Oh another thing when he was tied to that bed thing with the hot sun they showed this guy that looked dead. When Mac cut himself out he grabbed the dead guy's belt I think. How did the guy die? MacGyver couldn't of killed him altho it did cross my mind but who killed the guy? |
I wondered that, too. But I explain this so, that MacGyver freed himself with the knife, he knocked out this guy and then he laid down again and only pretended to be tied up, so he could easily eliminate the next guy. I agree, that MacGyver's character was quite different in season 1 or, at least, in the first half of season 1. It was much lighter and careless and there was some James Bond-like twist in him. But the first season is what I remember best from my childhood and for that reason it's very important for me. So, I love the season 1 very much. About that fighting thing: I like this part of MacGyver's character, that he wasn't a very good fighter. He was clumsy and won the fights rather by lucky accidents or using his cleverness than with brutal force. RDA was very athletic and could be much better fighter than MacGyver  , although this clumsiness was definitely the quality, that RDA himself brought in MacGyver's character. And it was a good idea, 'cause it adds the reality and convincingness of the character. And, because of his background as a mime and because of the qualities of his own personality, RDA acted this clumsiness perfectly. But, what is far away from reality, and particularly in this episode, is this eternal enigma of language. But, as we saw in Stargate SG-1, the WHOLE UNIVERSE speak english, so this problem is solved
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