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Joe SAKic
Posted: 15 January 2014 - 06:36 PM                                    
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Sure, I'll post a picture of the pair tomorrow after work.



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QUOTE (Joe SAKic @ 15 January 2014 - 10:36 PM)
Sure, I'll post a picture of the pair tomorrow after work.

Sounds good MacG.gif



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I just watched the first half of "Secret of Parker House" and the apparent difference in the cut of the collar on Mac's red jacket and that of the one I own is all based on the angle it is viewed from.

I checked online and there are very few close-up photos of RDA wearing that jacket, whether they are from the specific episode or press release/promo photos.

Below is a close-up of the right side of the collar. When you watch "Secret of Parker House" you can see the collar matches.

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QUOTE (MacFan092985 @ 16 January 2014 - 12:31 PM)
I just watched the first half of "Secret of Parker House" and the apparent difference in the cut of the collar on Mac's red jacket and that of the one I own is all based on the angle it is viewed from.
I checked online and there are very few close-up photos of RDA wearing that jacket, whether they are from the specific episode or press release/promo photos.
Below is a close-up of the right side of the collar. When you watch "Secret of Parker House" you can see the collar matches.

I think you've found it MacG.gif Just watched "The Secret of Parker House" yesterday again and it definitely looks like your jacket smile.gif



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You almost had me convinced, Macfan ... and then I put the two side by side and blew them up a bit. I clearly see a right-angled notch happening in the Mac jacket that (to my eyes & geometry proficiency) isn't there in the LL Bean cut. I tell you what, I'll watch Parker House again tonight and freeze frame all the telltale frames .... and make a decision one or another in the morning. idea.jpg

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Here are my two thrift store finds. Both FarWest goretex (not unlike the Eddie Bauer Goretex shells of the day actually) ... a little more robust than the LL Bean and probably would have kept Mac a bit drier in that gullywasher of a storm that he got caught in at Parker House.




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Hey Joe,

After you posted that picture, I thought the same thing, but after watching the episode and freeze framing it every chance I could to get a good look at the collar I'm convinced it's an optical illusion of sorts, based on the way the collar lays / appears in multiple other scenes. I think what appears to be a right angle is caused by the collar laying relatively flat against his collarbone. I'll see if I can recreate the same look with my jacket and post the photo here. wink.gif

By the way, I like the red jacket of yours on the right the best.



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Does this help?


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Yes, it's clear now with the higher resolution. Good Job!



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Thank You KiwiTek. biggrin.gif



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Joe, those are both really nice jackets. You're right, I don't think Mac would've gotten as wet if he was wearing one of those haha



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SO... we've decided that the jacket isn't the same as MacGyver's?




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No, I believe they are the same now. At least the collars seem to match. Unless somebody can see another potential discrepancy, they'd I'd say we can be 99.9% (100% if we could get a snap of the neck label) certain that it's as the LL Bean jacket in MacFan's possession. LL Bean was hot back then, as was Northface & Eddie Bauer too.



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If you look at the capture you can clearly see a tab or split in the collar which isn't caused by any optical effect because the collar is stretched out straight and tight over his head in that scene. Also if you line the two capture images up you can clearly see the "tab" is sticking out at a right angle to the rest of the collar.

Everything else seems to match the jackets though so is it possible that the company made different versions of the same jacket with subtle variations?

Note the collar has a split section
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No split section in this collar.
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here we can see the "Tab" sticking out at a right angle to the rest of the collar on both shots (joined by the green arrows).
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QUOTE (KiwiTek @ 19 January 2014 - 12:45 AM)
Everything else seems to match the jackets though so is it possible that the company made different versions of the same jacket with subtle variations?

This could definitely be the case. For example, the two London Fog jackets I mentioned earlier are the same jacket but have slightly different labels on the inside. Clothing companies frequently make changes to their products, even if they're only minor changes. Even all the Chevignon G-2's that lexscape owns have slightly different aviator pictures on the inside where the Chevignon label is. I wouldn't be surprised at all if this is the same jacket, but maybe with a slightly different collar.



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Your Honor, I object. huh.gif I further request time to take a picture of myself with the jacket I own over my head, like Mac did, to prove that the collars match . . . I hope.



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Upon further review of the images, I have found a difference in the positioning of the collar buttons, which could lend support to the notch/tab on the right side of the collar. Those on Mac's jacket appear to be more in line with the front edge of the collar, while those on mine are set a little further back from the edge of the collar.

It's cool with me if this particular jacket is removed from the Wardrobe Page. It's close but not exact, or perhaps a note could be made that everything matches, except for the right collar tab/notch.

To quote Maxwell Smart, "Missed it by that much". sad.gif



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I just found this Ralph Lauren jacket on Ebay which looks almost identical to yours. It has a slight tab on the collar, but not to the same extent as MacGyver's one.




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WOW! Very similar design. The only exception is the plaid lining. Mac's is clearly red, indicating it's unlined. I'm going to contact L.L. Bean directly and see if they can help answer this question once and for all. I wish I knew the phone number for Tommy Welsh, the costume designer for "MacGyver", I bet he could give us an answer.



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I just spoke with a customer service rep at L.L. Bean and she directed me to email them all the details and they'll see what they can do to help identify this jacket. Will post when I hear back from them.



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QUOTE (MacFan092985 @ 29 January 2014 - 11:33 PM)
I just spoke with a customer service rep at L.L. Bean and she directed me to email them all the details and they'll see what they can do to help identify this jacket. Will post when I hear back from them.

Hmm, very curious about this. Looking forward to any info. they can give us smile.gif



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If anyone is interested in the Scully G-2, there is a really nice looking distressed one on eBay right now at this link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scully-G-2-B-2-Fli...=item27de1dbde5

The seller is calling it a G-2 and mentions MacGyer in the title and description. It's a size small but I can say (having owned 2 size small jackets from Scully) that their size small definitely fits more like a medium (or 40-42 regular). In fact, the seller mentions this as well; further describing it as a jacket that can fit a person with a 44 in. chest who is 6'1" and 180 lbs.

To help put it more in perspective, I am 5'10" and weigh 152 lbs. and the small is a little big on me. I've posted all this in the Mystery Solved! thread on page 3 which can be found here: http://www.macgyveronline.com/forums/index...entry1000063996



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Okay, I heard back from a few L.L. Bean reps. From what they told me, the jacket I have, that is posted on the MacGyver's Wardrobe page, is NOT the same style of jacket RDA wore on "Secret of Parker House". Below is the description of what I believe is the jacket like RDA wore.

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Dear Lance,

Lorraine has gone home for the day.  I will pick up where she left off.

In the late 1980s, L.L.Bean offered a Twill Outing Jacket for men and women.  One of the colors was a bright red.

I am sorry but I was unable to identify the discussion forum on the macgyveronline forum.

The jacket we sold had a throat latch under the stand-up collar on the wearer's right.  The throat latch could be button closed with one button that was located under the collar on the wearer's left or folded back under the collar and buttoned in place.

I hope this provides useful information for you.

Sincerely,

Cynthia S
L.L.Bean Product Specialist
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Below is the last email I got from L.L. Bean, further describing the burgundy jacket I have.

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Dear Mr. Frank:

The jacket on EBay listed as the Harrington Deck Jacket is FG68 the Regular Cotton Twill Jacket.  We last sold it in 2001.  I don't know what notch you are referring to. 

I do not have a description of the Twill Outing Jacket that is more specific than what you have already been told.  Frankly, product specialists are more informed about current items for sale here at LLBean, and I think you have received as much information we have to share.

Sincerely,

Andrea
L.L.Bean Product Specialist
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I will continue to search for the bright red L.L. Bean Twill Outing jacket.

If anyone is interested in the Harrington Deck jacket I have contact me. It's a size large, which is too big for me.



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Well that's a step closer anyway. At least we know the make and model now. Although it would have been good if they could have found this thread. Did you give them the link?



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Yep . . . to two different customer service reps.

I'll try again and see what happens.



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I sent the link again and got a response.

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I looked.  It could be the same jacket.  I have no new information to share.

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While I think the jacket Mac wore is the bright red Twill Outing Jacket, we'll just have to wait until someone comes across one to know for sure. I'm definitely keeping an eye out for it.



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Does anyone know how the Scully Jackets are sized? Are they true to size or do they run big/small?

Reason I ask there is a nice bomber jacket available online at the moment for a good price, but it's a size 50, and i'm a size 44...

I've tried checking the Scully main site but there is no size chart on there.



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QUOTE (A. MacGyver @ 16 March 2014 - 03:25 AM)
Does anyone know how the Scully Jackets are sized? Are they true to size or do they run big/small?

Reason I ask there is a nice bomber jacket available online at the moment for a good price, but it's a size 50, and i'm a size 44...

I've tried checking the Scully main site but there is no size chart on there.

It depends on if the Scully jacket has a white or black label inside the jacket underneath the collar. It will be either a black square label with gold lettering or a white square label with gold lettering. The ones with the black labels run true to size but the newer versions with the white labels fit much bigger. A size small in the earlier version fits me just fine and a I'm a 152 lb. male. However, the newer version of the size small is really big on me. Even if it's an older Scully jacket, the difference between a size 44 and 50 will be significant. There will be an even bigger size difference if it is the version that's available now. I also wanted to mention that these, like the Avirex G-2's, were offered at some point in both lettered sizes (s,m,l,xl, etc.) and numbered sizes (40, 42, 44, etc.) I cannot confirm this, but it appears that the one Scully is selling now is only available in lettered sizes.

Here's a copy of something I mention in the Mystery Solved! thread from Jan. 30th 2014:

"If anyone is interested in the Scully G-2, there is a really nice looking distressed one on eBay right now at this link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scully-G-2-B-2-Fli...=item27de1dbde5

The seller is calling it a G-2 and mentions MacGyer in the title and description. It's a size small but I can say (having owned 2 size small jackets from Scully) that their size small definitely fits more like a medium (or 40-42 regular). In fact, the seller mentions this as well; further describing it as a jacket that can fit a person with a 44 in. chest who is 6'1" and 180 lbs.

To help put it more in perspective, I am 5'10" and weigh 152 lbs. and the small is a little big on me." The actual thread that this post is from can be found here on the bottom of page 2: http://www.macgyveronline.com/forums/index...ly#.U07tsKL4Jss

The style for that Scully jacket is 714-12. If you have any more questions feel free to ask. I have an early version along with a newer one so I may be able to help with this.



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Hi,
I’m currently looking for MA-1 Flight Jacket in this navy Blue color. I assume it’s very dark blue, almost black, but I can only find black and olive models.
Is it still in produce?

Second question, have you noticed MacGyver wearing any kind of gloves, other than for skiing?



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Here's a link to the blue flight jacket



He wore white cycle gloves in The Lost Amadeus and cream woollen fingerless gloves in the gambit of the Pilot.

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