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Yeah, I agree. I liked him best in "Strictly Business," actually, because it's the only time you actually see him doing his job - as a cold, professional killer fulfilling a contract. (Unless you count "Serenity.") In the other episodes he was either out for revenge, working with MacGyver, or (in this one) a general.

And one other thing about him becoming a general, if it helps - I don't think he was actually planning to be a conventional "leading men in battle" kind of general. I always assumed the deal was for him to be Delasora's head of secret police, head of covert ops, or something like that. Which would be a lot closer to his old job than most generalships, and also allow him to keep a somewhat lower profile.



 
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QUOTE (Hannibal_Smith @ 13 June 2013 - 08:01 AM)
And one other thing about him becoming a general, if it helps - I don't think he was actually planning to be a conventional "leading men in battle" kind of general. I always assumed the deal was for him to be Delasora's head of secret police, head of covert ops, or something like that. Which would be a lot closer to his old job than most generalships, and also allow him to keep a somewhat lower profile.

I think so too.



"Definitely Murdoc's handiwork. I could fix it if I only had some duct tape." -Murdoc (impersonating MacGyver), "Strictly Business"

 
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You know, if they ever get around to actually dropping The Bomb, there will be two classes of creature left alive on the planet: Cockroaches and Murdoc. And the cockroaches will be nervous...

This one really is a return to the kind of episode I like - Pete is back, the jeep (OK A Jeep) is back, Murdoc's back, there's a madman to deal with and a sticky situation to escape smile.gif

I really like the beginning when Mac is so hounded by everyone's favourite psycho that he's on the verge of losing it. Attila the Hen in the Phoenix office just brings out the worst in him and it's interesting to see him so much on the ragged edge.
I also like the way this is paralleled by equal desperation on Murdoc's part - cosying up with Delasora is a last ditch attempt to make something out of his situation as it's clear that the HIT 'community' has properly turned it's back on him. MDB does do aristocratically bonkers so very well! happy_dance.gif

My favourite part has to be when Mac is taunting Murdoc about his failure to kill him all those times. You can see that this really hits home with Murdoc - maybe he's been thinking the same things, maybe he is a washed out no-hoper after all... But then NO! He doesn't need a firing squad, he's got a much better idea!

OK, the boot throwing did stretch my disbelief suspenders a little bit and either Murdoc somehow didn't know the cliff was there, or he's finally lost the last of his marbles and was making a desperate and suicidal attempt to nail MacGyver once and for all, but I can forgive those niggles for an otherwise very entertaining episode.

Deep breath everyone: MACGYVERRRRRR!!!!

And that laugh on the other end of the late night phone call... Just perfect.
Best get comfy on the settee and break out the chamomile tea Mac, it's going to be a long night. unsure.gif



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QUOTE (Rocket @ 16 August 2013 - 09:01 PM)
My favourite part has to be when Mac is taunting Murdoc about his failure to kill him all those times.  You can see that this really hits home with Murdoc - maybe he's been thinking the same things, maybe he is a washed out no-hoper after all...  But then NO!  He doesn't need a firing squad, he's got a much better idea!

Despite what I said earlier about that, I think it's funny that it's MacGyver's comment about how he always fails to kill him that goads him into... proving that comment right. If only he'd stuck with the plan and just had the firing squad execute him then and there, everything would've gone fine. Instead he lets himself be maneuvered into creating a Blofeld-type elaborate death trap, which MacGyver immediately escapes.

"Blew it again, Murdoc," indeed.

"You're the joke, Murdoc," indeed.



 
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'Think about it. All those times you tried to kill me, you've nothing but fail. And now you need a firing squad to do it for you. How weak is that?' evil.gif

Just love it how Mac is challenging Murdoc like: 'You wanna try me? Go ahead.'



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I just love it too. thumbup.gif The best part of this episode.

It's weird to see Mac so stressed, he always had steady nerves. And I hate that Cindy Finnigan. mad.gif
Pete's delivery was fine, she bought it (me too, the first time I watched this eppy surprise.gif )

The MacGyverism of the boot and the jeep over the cliff are a little far fetched huh.gif , but since it's just a show I can accept them, even if it's the third time he uses the boot after "Holy Rose" and "Honest Abe". Clearly the writers were running out of ideas.

I prefer the second part of this episode because MacGyver gets back in his usual mood.

Since there are better episodes, I voted ok for this one.



 
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In this episode, MacGyver tackles a photog he thinks is Murdoc (who just fired a dart from a fake camera). The shot shows the suspected attacker on his back, and his face looks familiar. When it switches to the close up, he looks very familiar.


Dwight Shultz.

It would be a casting of pure genius since he played a character in The A Team named Murdoc (and it would make sense that he could do the job, Paramount owned both Star Trek and MacGyver)



 
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Nope. There is no sign of that on his filmography and yes Paramount owns Star Trek and MacGyver but not The A-Team. The A-Team is owned by Universal.



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QUOTE (Zoomer30 @ 19 August 2015 - 05:22 AM)
When it switches to the close up, he looks very familiar.


Dwight Shultz.


It does look similar and being such a bit part it wouldn't be credited.

Paramount don't have to own a show to employ an out of work actor.



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I think I vaguely remember this scene. Since they did not use the name Murdoch" from the A-Team, there is no copyright infringement. It is just there for you to figure out.

At the end of the day, only Dwight or someone from this episode (Creative dept) might be able to confirm or deny this.



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I guess what I was aiming at was how it seemed like a lot of actors were on both shows. (since both are produced by Paramount)

1. Terri Hatcher: Penny Parker and trasnporter operator to hit on the Rocketeer.
2. The bad attitude high school teacher who also played the Romulan who was tricked into defecting.
3.Nana Visitor. In the episode Wildfire (the oil rig one) and Deep Space Nine as Kira Nureas.
4. The head of HIT who also played professor Moriarty in The Next Generation (episodes that also featured Reg Barkley /Dwight S.)

That screen shot shocked the crap out of me. Really does look like him. Even SOUNDS like him (that kinda whiny voice he used as Barkley)



 
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Just would be a hilarious case of double takes. MacGyver thinks he just tackled Murdoc. He did, just the wrong one XD



 
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Isn't the guy's name on the end credits? Than you'll know who he is.



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This is an episode that I'm going to look up tonight. My son just asked me if I had ever seen it, and told me it was a great one! Dwight had an acting style all his own, so I'm looking forward to seeing it.



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QUOTE (KiwiTek @ 18 August 2015 - 06:48 PM)
It does look similar and being such a bit part it wouldn't be credited.


Yep, uncredited peoples are called extras wink.gif



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QUOTE (Barry Rowland @ 20 August 2015 - 12:57 AM)
This is an episode that I'm going to look up tonight.  My son just asked me if I had ever seen it, and told me it was a great one!  Dwight had an acting style all his own, so I'm looking forward to seeing it.

Don't blink or you'll miss it. There's not really any acting involved in his part it's just a quick shot of him laying on the ground about to get punched out by Mac.




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I'm quite surprised by some of the hate for Cindy. Yeah, she wasn't the most sympathetic character. But she's hardly the worst person in this episode. Plus, Mac did quite a lot of shouting, which was hardly very professional of him either.




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surprise.gif I just worked out how both Murdoc and MacG.gif are able to survive so many scenarios which would kill most ordinary humans.

They're not ordinary humans. surprise.gif w00t.gif

They're descended from someone who was the offspring of Rasputin and one of Buffy the Vampire Slayer's predecessors. Thus they are hard to kill and have supernatural strength and healing powers.

I don't know how they're related - maybe long-lost brothers or cousins.



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Or twins separated at birth! huh.gif



 
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QUOTE (MacGyver85 @ 12 October 2016 - 07:46 PM)
Or twins separated at birth! huh.gif

I like it! Murdoc is Mac's evil twin!



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If that's true Mac's parents got some explaining to do.



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QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ 13 October 2016 - 04:31 PM)
If that's true Mac's parents got some explaining to do.

Maybe they were planning to later... smile.gif




 
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Nah, they were too good of peoples to be that dishonest with their son. Besides if it is Partners doesn't make sense anymore.



I think the poison that was used was applied to this knife, passed to the mutton when it was cut and then activated by the wine. - MacGyver.
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QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ 13 October 2016 - 12:31 PM)
If that's true Mac's parents got some explaining to do.

I think this plot is borrowed from a lot of other things - but if they were twins, Mac's parents might not have realised. No ultrasounds back then. (I know twins born in 1973 whose mother had been told by most of the doctors she saw that she was only expecting one baby.) But there would be some plot about how an evil doctor or midwife or whatever drugged Mac's mum so much that she didn't realise she'd had twins. Mac's dad, this being the olden days, would be outside, pacing around the waiting room. Then the evil twin (Murdoc) would be spirited away.

Mac's parents would be all, "Yay, we have a healthy baby boy to carry on the family name!"



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Talk about far-fetched.



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Just so you know, I am completely joking about all of this...



 
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QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ 14 October 2016 - 08:31 AM)
If that's true Mac's parents got some explaining to do.

Or maybe just his father.... hmm.bmp

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QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ 14 October 2016 - 04:09 PM)
Talk about far-fetched.

I wonder if RDA thought, "I am auditioning for the guy who gave the world the term 'jumping the shark'. I hope that all the storylines will be plausible."

Edit: then again, maybe his first words on hearing he'd got the job were, "Yay! By the way, if you could write in a jet-skiing scene, I'd be happy to jump a fake shark. Of course, I would also like a storyline where I get to save sharks. Nature is nice."



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I'm torn between rating this good or excellent - As a whole series episode it's good, as season 7 it's excellent.

While I agree the tanks are a bit far fetched, especially when it falls over exactly lined up with the rope - which didn't even seem like it was at that angle before. (Also his hand was right by the rope knot across his body, I swear he could have just untied himself). But overall I liked the premise, I liked Mac looking like he was going crazy but then being right... but then he also should have attached a tape recorder to the phone if he was getting regular calls from Murdoc.




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