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QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ 2 March 2019 - 12:26 AM)
Funny, earlier this week I saw on Facebook, he might be coming back already.

That video you saw was Trumped up media rubbish. Most of the "facts" it showed were comments from fans or general information that means nothing.



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What's really amazing to consider is how few episodes original Jack was actually in. Just 18 episodes out of 139! He had such an impression he felt like a main character though smile.gif



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QUOTE (zoeryan @ 6 March 2019 - 08:39 AM)
What's really amazing to consider is how few episodes original Jack was actually in. Just 18 episodes out of 139! He had such an impression he felt like a main character though smile.gif

True. The same goes for Murdoc who was in even less episodes.

They are - with Pete - the characters I remember so vividly when talking about MacGyver; they feel like regulars, not recurrings.



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We need Jack back. Show is nothing withouth him. Jack kicks ass.



 
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QUOTE (Mika73 @ 8 July 2019 - 05:45 AM)
We need Jack back. Show is nothing withouth him. Jack kicks ass.

Can't blame the show for that. You have to blame him (George). Only saving grace: He walked out & didn't get chalked out.



 
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QUOTE (real_ness @ 9 July 2019 - 08:31 PM)
QUOTE (Mika73 @ 8 July 2019 - 05:45 AM)
We need Jack back. Show is nothing withouth him. Jack kicks ass.

Can't blame the show for that. You have to blame him (George). Only saving grace: He walked out & didn't get chalked out.

To be fair we actually don't' know anything about his reasons for leaving other than what the producers of the show have told us. So for all-we-know, it may be their fault that he left.

The one thing we can be sure of though is that it's not up to the show whether he comes back or not, they can't force him, it will be up to him and I suspect he's probably over the physically and mentally demanding role.





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One thing that really bothers me is how many people I've seen badmouthing Eads for leaving. I've read comments calling him a quitter, an ass, a jerk, etc. Like, if this role isn't working out for him, he can leave. It's his choice, and he owes you nothing, random people online who don't understand that he has a life outside of pleasing you dry.gif



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He is great and hope he is coming back. How ever Jack Dalton episodes were one of best episodes at original series.

They may as well quit doing this new Macgyver after 4 season if there’s not Jack Dalton anymore.

Desi? Give me a break.. roller.gif



 
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For me this version of Jack never worked for me.

George is NOT the Jack Dalton of the OG, that Jack was actually way more funny intentionally. This Jack is just too try hard funny. Maybe because comedy isn't George's strong suit imo.

If for example he decided he didn't wanna do the back & forth thing that's his prerogative. I think people are mainly looking at history, he's done this type of stuff before on CSI. I'd venture to say I don't even know his standing with CBS at this present moment

But I digress, I see the hunger in Levy and she wants to please (this is kind of tame compared to the some of the stuff I've seen her do). She's wants to be a part of the team. She'll probably do most anything they tell her do scriptly speaking. I don't get the piling on her. And their level of enthusiasm are like night & day between the two of them.



 
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Mac, Jack and Murdoc was only thing theres left of orginal series and now 1/3 of it is gone.

Soon only thing theres left is just name and one new young peoples tv serie. I am sure its just just fine for those who didnt watch MacGyver at 80´s. But not so sure that there will be so many seasons after 4..

Its not so easy replace one of main characters.





 
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I never watched the original series and after reading RDA's negative ungracious comments I have no intention to. The reboot was never meant to be an exact replica of the 80's show. How could it be 30 years later?

As for George, I liked the bromance, but he chose to break his contract. We don't know the full story so I won't judge, but he walked away so I don't think about him at all. I don't mind Desi and think she's done a fine job. Frankly, I give all the actors, particularly Lucas, a lot of credit for dealing with the constant unkind comparisons in a mature, professional manner.

I am curious about the new guy. I am not familiar with his work but I guess it depends on his role. He is George's age so it will be interesting to find out how he plays opposite Lucas's Mac.



 
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QUOTE (real_ness @ 10 July 2019 - 03:32 AM)
For me this version of Jack never worked for me.

George is NOT the Jack Dalton of the OG, that Jack was actually way more funny intentionally. This Jack is just too try hard funny. Maybe because comedy isn't George's strong suit imo.

If for example he decided he didn't wanna do the back & forth thing that's his prerogative. I think people are mainly looking at history, he's done this type of stuff before on CSI. I'd venture to say I don't even know his standing with CBS at this present moment

But I digress, I see the hunger in Levy and she wants to please (this is kind of tame compared to the some of the stuff I've seen her do). She's wants to be a part of the team. She'll probably do most anything they tell her do scriptly speaking. I don't get the piling on her. And their level of enthusiasm are like night & day between the two of them.

I agree, but I think Jack was written that way. I know there was reportedly conflict between George and the writers (or producers?) because of that. But we may never know the full story.

As for his CSI role, it was after 7 seasons. It's not like he left halfway through season 2 or anything. But I don't know much about that role of his, tbh...

Levy herself doesn't deserve any hate, but she handles it very well, and I admire her, even though I'm not crazy about Desi's character.



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QUOTE (BabyEinstein @ 11 July 2019 - 01:51 AM)
I never watched the original series and after reading RDA's negative ungracious comments I have no intention to.

Interesting! I had been wondering if there was anyone on this site who was only a fan of the reboot and not the original.

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I don't mind Desi and think she's done a fine job.  Frankly, I give all the actors, particularly Lucas, a lot of credit for dealing with the constant unkind comparisons in a mature, professional manner.

To be honest, I feel badly for them at times. They're basically expected to always praise the original series in interviews, and that has to be difficult after RDA trash-talked their show. They all show remarkable restraint and professionalism.

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I am curious about the new guy.  I am not familiar with his work but I guess it depends on his role.  He is George's age so it will be interesting to find out how he plays opposite Lucas's Mac.

I really liked him as Desmond Hume on Lost, so I'm excited to see what he does here.



 
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How much trash-talking has RDA done? huh.gif I knew he didn't like the reboot, but how bad was it actually?



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QUOTE (Dragondog @ 13 July 2019 - 03:16 PM)
How much trash-talking has RDA done?  huh.gif I knew he didn't like the reboot, but how bad was it actually?

There has been NO trash talking from RDA. He was asked the question and he gave an honest answer- that he doesn't like it because he feels it's strayed too far from the original concept.

His biggest complaint is that they glaze over the MacGyverisms too fast so they become inconsequential to the story. In the original, that was kind of the whole point of the show. His other criticism is of so many people carrying guns and that it makes MacGyver not carrying a gun kind of pointless. He hasn't criticized the actors, production or scripting of the show, just those two points really.





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Actually, he said "they have some kid doing it now." I think that's rather dismissive of a fellow actor. He's entitled to
give his honest opinion of course, but I think Tom Selleck handled the reboot question with class, even wishing them well. I don't know RDA and I don't know the original, so his points could be valid vis-a-vis his version, but why criticize it at all?



 
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QUOTE (BabyEinstein @ 13 July 2019 - 04:44 PM)
Actually, he said "they have some kid doing it now." I think that's rather dismissive of a fellow actor.   He's entitled to give his honest opinion of course, but I think Tom Selleck handled the reboot question with class, even wishing them well.

I don't think you can compare RDA and Selleck's statements about the reboot.

Selleck is employed by CBS. Of course, he won't speak ill of the Reboot as long as he works on "Blue Bloods". RDA is free to say whatever he wants. He doesn't need to be afraid of offending anyone.

In fact, I remember Selleck stating in an interview back then that he would never be part of the Magnum reboot... because he doesn't like it. Pretty much the same that RDA said; saying that it should have been a continuation instead of a reboot. Then, Selleck changed the tune suddenly, wishing them well and being all gracious about it; leading to people speculate about a possible crossover.

I guess CBS didn't like that first statement tongue.gif



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QUOTE (BabyEinstein @ 14 July 2019 - 02:44 AM)
I don't know RDA and I don't know the original, so his points could be valid vis-a-vis his version, but why criticize it at all?

Because he was asked the question. The comment was made in response to a question at a comic con. He didn't go crying to the media with it.

And when you're the person responsible for bringing a character to life and making it as iconic as MacGyver became, I think you have the right to state your opinion on a reboot that bearly even touches on the original concept.

His points are valid in regards of the original.



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but I think Tom Selleck handled the reboot question with class

Well, Tom Selleck still works for CBS so he has to be careful what he says. wink.gif He did, however, say that he doesn't want to have anything to do with the reboot because he owes it to the fans of the original... He's the master of subtle jabs.



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The phrase "trash-talking" may have been a bit strong, but, regardless of whether we agree or disagree with RDA's comments, I think we can all agree that it must be tough (or at least irritating) for the cast of the reboot when they're expected to praise someone who clearly doesn't like their work. So I still think they've been handling it well.





 
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Why is this being discussed again, did he say something else? Just curious



 
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