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|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 15 April 2016 - 01:16 PM|
| Shooting seems already to be underway. OnLocationsVacation listed the shooting location for April 8th: 2632 E. Washington Bl, Pasadena
Tweets from April 12th:
Thea Grabiec @TheaGrabiec
Up early tomorrow! Working on the #MacGyver #pilot!
Vanessa Marie @VVMarie1
Standing in on #MacGyver today #StandIn #SAG #Actress
Vanessa added a first picture to a link on instagram (which she deleted afterwards), so we already have a look at the new "logo" (if it stays that way).
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 15 April 2016 - 01:22 PM|
|According to Google, that building is/was St. Luke's Hospital, where other movies have been filmed at...|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 16 April 2016 - 05:01 AM|
| Another Actor tweeted his involvement recently:
Hollywood. @Hope_Hundredz 12. Apr.
On the set workin on this Macgyver pilot.
He also posted a twitter video a day later without description, and it might be from the movie set, but I'm not sure. Looks like a press conference in a hangar with military people involved....
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 16 April 2016 - 05:29 AM|
| Joseph Fedo (On-Set Dresser) posted this statement on Facebook (21 hours ago):
And that is a wrap on the new MacGyver pilot .....Congrats to the cast and crew for keeping film production in LA,CA!
He also praises Lucas Till in one of his comments: Thanks Bob, I think he was a good choice for the new Macgyver!
I'm not sure if that means it's a wrap for him or a wrap for the pilot. That would have been pretty fast, I think?
Link to his profile: https://www.facebook.com/joseph.fedo?fref=nf#!/joseph.fedo
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 16 April 2016 - 11:47 AM|
| I believe the pilot is done filming and as for the pres confrence (spoilers based on what we know and this is just an educated guess)
Perhaps the military press confrence scene is Mac returning home being herald as a hero scene?
So the on set designer thinks Lucas till makes a great macgyver interesting...
I still am left wondering when will we know more like pics of Lucas till in character and of course the trailer.
My guess is nothing major till May when CBS says yes macgyver is going to air _______________
But I would love just a picture of Lucas on set to see if we have short hair or long hair
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 17 April 2016 - 08:59 AM|
| Screenplay Writer MJ London posted new pics of the set on her Twitter account today:
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 17 April 2016 - 09:01 AM|
| Don't know her role or where she got the pictures...
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 17 April 2016 - 09:02 AM|
| (via https://twitter.com/mj_london )
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 17 April 2016 - 09:15 AM|
| (via https://twitter.com/mj_london )
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 17 April 2016 - 11:32 AM|
|Or we could get news now lol I love the pics|
|Posted by: Mr Duct Tape 17 April 2016 - 12:27 PM|
| Cool pics, thanks for sharing them here.
I'm getting a kind of similar vibe of the episode Human Factor, with that cave entrance and the location
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 17 April 2016 - 01:43 PM|
| Other comments from Joseph Fedo's FB page yesterday:
> It should be pretty exciting, a lot like the original show
> It was a tough show prop wise, but they did a great job...(...)
(via https://www.facebook.com/#!/joseph.fedo )
|Posted by: KiwiTek 17 April 2016 - 07:10 PM|
| This is awesome!
I still want a picture of Lucas in charatcer though!!
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 17 April 2016 - 09:12 PM|
| I guess we'll have to wait for anything official until the pilot is definitely picked up as a series?
Of course, everyone is wondering about Lucas as MacGyver. But from my experience as a fangirl, you'll get to see everyone else in character before the one character you really want to see *lol*
|Posted by: denizen 18 April 2016 - 08:26 PM|
| Pics are a little vague. We get a small glimpse of some locations / scenes being used. I'm with everyone else too regarding seeing the actual actors in play.
They may say its a lot like the original but that's not to say that the creative team are.
We will have to see...
|Posted by: KiwiTek 18 April 2016 - 10:05 PM|
After hearing how James Wan claimed to be a big fan of the show but then heard his butchered ideas of how to reboot it I'm pretty skeptical, and even a little nervous, when crew members say it's like the original.
We have to ask how well he knows the show and in what respect he think's it's like the original.
Also his comment on his other MacGyver post congratulating them on keeping it in LA, seems a little odd. Surely it's best to go wherever is best for the production?
|Posted by: denizen 18 April 2016 - 11:38 PM|
| Absolutely but they usually have tons of happiness in their hearts when production stays in LA because most of the cast & crew are from there. I.E. Close to home.
Lots of cast/crew don't like to shoot in other territories.
|Posted by: KiwiTek 19 April 2016 - 05:03 PM|
| I guess it's possible that they are flying under the radar a bit at the moment because they don't know if the show will get picked up or not. No point making a big deal out of something to then have it not even picked up.
Having said that though, and looking at Lucas Tills twitter feed... I can't help thinking they have misfired already. If you look at shows which are big hits these days, most of them have a constant social media feed from the actors. They share onset information and pictures and basically constantly engage with the fans. Lucas doesn't appear to do that.
Shows and actors with no social engagement lose interest pretty fast now. Even RDA has found that (as much as he doesn't like it) he has to make regular posts on Kate's site to keep fans engaged simply because that's what fans want now. The attitude these days seems to be that if actors don't want to engage with fans, then fans wont engage with them either and just move on to a show or actor who does engage.
|Posted by: denizen 19 April 2016 - 07:58 PM|
|No matter how good or bad the show is, they will always say its excellent. Because they want to see their work be successful.|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 19 April 2016 - 09:16 PM|
| Testing Twitter search now. Didn't know you could go that back far in time...
Found the tweet of someone who works in Graphic Design:
chrischristian @chrischristian 29. März
Working on #MacGyver tomorrow. Stoked because I always wanted to be like him. Not because of his abilities but because of his sweet #mullet.
(via https://twitter.com/chrischristian )
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 20 April 2016 - 11:50 AM|
| I have faith....
Like I said the script review gets me hyped up. Some of the pics look nice
Over all I am happy.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 20 April 2016 - 02:29 PM|
| Well. Google even helps technically challenged people like me, but not always ;-)
I managed to download the video that Hollywood.@Hope_Hundredz posted on Twitter a day later he posted being working on the MacGyver set (via https://twitter.com/Hope_Hundredz/status/720039905137598464 ).
I still haven't got an answer if it's actually from the set, so.... guess you have to discuss and decide for yourself... anyone knows how to upload it to this forum? It won't let me, although the size is less than the maximum of 4.93mb (it's an mp4 video file)....
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 20 April 2016 - 02:37 PM|
| Found another actor involved in the Reboot:
Ruman Kazi @RealRumanKazi 12. Apr.
Let the good times roll. I #booked a co-star for an episode of the MacGyver reboot! #alhumdulillah
Ruman Kazi @RealRumanKazi 13. Apr.
The trailers are getting nicer. Dope. #CBS #acting #macgyver https://www.instagram.com/p/BEJxet9D1DE/
(via https://twitter.com/RealRumanKazi )
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 20 April 2016 - 02:52 PM|
| picture of the stunt team on set:
picture of the costume design team on set on the last day of shooting:
|Posted by: denizen 20 April 2016 - 07:04 PM|
|Posted by: KiwiTek 20 April 2016 - 08:01 PM|
OMG! Is that Lucas in the red T-Shirt IN CHARACTER??
One question.... how do you know what the video is of? there's no caption.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 20 April 2016 - 09:17 PM|
Well, I don't know, sadly. It's all speculation because it fits the timeline and the setting, but he seems to work on other projects, too at the moment (so could be something else). But MacGyver is the only project he mentioned by name.
I asked him about the video but didn't get an answer. Don't sure if I should ask him again or more directly (via private message).
I also didn't retweet it or post elsewhere because I hoped he might post more stuff. That girl that posted the pics from set deleted them after they were shared and posted online. Guess she got into trouble for it; most productions do have a "no post of anything" policy, after all. Nobody wants to risk looking unprofessional.
Guess we have to wait and see what else turns up.
I'm not sure how this works: If the series gets picked up - when will they start shooting the rest of season one? I guess they would have to start soon?
|Posted by: MacsJeep 20 April 2016 - 09:54 PM|
|I'm starting to get a bit more interested in this now. The thing that will swing it one way or another is still seeing Lucas as Mac. When is this likely to air in the states? UK tv doesn't do things like the US and I never understand filming pilots that sometimes don't even air etc.|
|Posted by: denizen 20 April 2016 - 10:01 PM|
| Pilots are usually sold to a network to air. But sometimes nobody wants to buy them.
Like the disastrous Saint (2013) reboot.
But if they get aired and there's a demand for it, networks usually green light a season.
|Posted by: Mr Duct Tape 21 April 2016 - 03:26 AM|
| Wow Dashboard is quite the scoop master! Well done my friend!
thanks for the pics and videos
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 21 April 2016 - 04:04 AM|
| If that IS Lucas till in Character he looks like Macgyver to me so I am happy
As for the scoops In general well done Dash indeed.
Like I said I am quite excited about this CBS will announce their fall scheduale next month some time so we will know within a few weeks if Macgyver is coming back or if it isn't. I am quite nervous but I am seeing and hearing things that look better then what we saw a decade (+a few years) ago with young Macgyver the script review sounds interesting and there seems to be a lot of mystery and suspense within the pilot that could develop nicely in the first season (while there is room for more familiar characters like Peter Thorton and Jack Dalton could be introduced)
I think we can all agree it's an exciting time to be a Macgyver fan.
|Posted by: denizen 21 April 2016 - 04:39 AM|
| I agree. It is definitely nice to see the MacGyver character back in the limelight.
I guess we are all just hoping it is done right. We hold the character so dear to our hearts, that we have become critical. Perhaps because Mac has become iconic over the decades.
|Posted by: KiwiTek 21 April 2016 - 04:58 AM|
Pilots are filmed as a prototype to give the networks an idea of what the show will be like.
Usually a pilot is filmed and then shown to test groups and audiences to help the networks gauge reception to the show and determine if it's going to be a hit and from there they determine which shows they will purchase. This is why the http://www.macgyveronline.com/database/young-macgyver-credits pilot was made but never aired.
|Posted by: MacsJeep 21 April 2016 - 05:05 AM|
|When will we know what is happening and if its been picked up? i hope we don't have to wait until September to see Lucas in character....|
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 21 April 2016 - 07:15 AM|
Next month CBS will announces its fall scheduale including when new shows will air. So within 4 weeks we will know if it's being picked up or not.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 21 April 2016 - 12:41 PM|
That's great! I always think it's torture how movies and TV shows are announced so early on and then you have to wait months or even years until it gets made and to get a glimpse of it...
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 21 April 2016 - 12:47 PM|
| MJ London is at it again (keep them coming, please!):
MJ London @mj_london 19. Apr.
Love this chair! #writerslife
(via https://twitter.com/mj_london )
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 21 April 2016 - 12:50 PM|
|I like the writing. It's modern, yet it's not soo different from the original one so that it still honors it...|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 21 April 2016 - 01:05 PM|
Thanks. Seems like I picked up some tricks over the years as a fangirl *lol*.
That's why I'm actually a bit disappointed about the lack of young Lucas Till fans who share stuff online. I haven't even managed to find a decent website... It would be a lot more easier to find stuff through rabid fans and their accounts...
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 21 April 2016 - 01:18 PM|
| Remember that set pic I posted (the small one on the right side). I found some other picture that might be from the set (sorry, had to a screenshot because I have no clue how to get pics from instagram onto my computer without an instagram account)...
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 21 April 2016 - 01:20 PM|
| He posted another pic from a set visitor pass six days ago. They're from the 24th of March; so I guess they must have been done with the stunt scene already?
(That's how I found the car crash pic; because how this visitor pass pic below was tagged)
(via https://www.instagram.com/yeahyoclinto/ )
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 21 April 2016 - 01:44 PM|
| Seems like Michael Clear (Location Scout?) was there, too:
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 21 April 2016 - 01:46 PM|
|More importantly, he posted THIS one (via https://www.instagram.com/clearmichael/):|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 21 April 2016 - 02:15 PM|
| A look at the MacGyver Script!!! (well, the front page at least )
(via https://www.instagram.com/anitak7/ )
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 21 April 2016 - 02:57 PM|
| via https://www.instagram.com/malexander_official/
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 21 April 2016 - 02:58 PM|
| also via https://www.instagram.com/malexander_official/
(not much to see, but looks like the same abandoned warehouse location)
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 21 April 2016 - 02:59 PM|
| via https://www.instagram.com/bjorn0/
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 21 April 2016 - 06:09 PM|
|Really digging the new logo reminds me of the comic book|
|Posted by: KiwiTek 21 April 2016 - 08:12 PM|
Hmmm.... we've been blocked from following and even seeing their twitter account.
Seems like an odd thing to do considering we haven't communicated with them at all.
|Posted by: denizen 21 April 2016 - 08:27 PM|
|No doubt due to the our curious members.|
|Posted by: KiwiTek 21 April 2016 - 09:51 PM|
Don't post things on twitter if you don't want people looking at it.
Still seems odd to post on-set pictures of a show and then block fan sites from being able to see them for no particular reason.
I really hope it's not a CBS or management directive because cutting off fans from a show in this day and age is almost a death wish.
|Posted by: denizen 21 April 2016 - 09:53 PM|
|I suspect the crew are posting and the execs are blocking.|
|Posted by: KiwiTek 21 April 2016 - 09:58 PM|
That shows how behind the times the execs are then doesn't it.
You'd think anyone who lives in this century would think about social media suppression before they started filming.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 21 April 2016 - 10:33 PM|
wow... that's harsh.
Try to see it as an honor - you're feared all over the world by the "bad" guys aka movie production guys . If you're not logged in on twitter or if you use another browser window (e.g. IE InPrivate), it should probably work to at least see her account, no?
I can see her profile just fine, but I guesss I won't ever retweet, follow or even @ her... I do have some MacGyver and RDA fan stuff accounts I'm following; she would know I'm a fan.
Try not to see it personal. I've been blocked from commenting on a big fansite of another movie star out there because they think I'm a troll (just because I posted my personal opinion on ANOTHER fan account they don't like)
*polishing shiny badge of honor*
|Posted by: denizen 21 April 2016 - 11:16 PM|
| Its pretty safe to assume they are blocking all MacGyver related sites in the event we try to snoop in on them. Might be wrong but that would be the only explanation.
Kiwi does have appoint though, Dash, We have never made any contact with them before.
|Posted by: KiwiTek 22 April 2016 - 01:26 AM|
| Actually I've just looked back at my twitter history and I apparently (don't remember it though) did re-tweeted one of her tweets and replied asking if they are still filming the pilot or if it was all wrapped which actually makes the block even more.... I was going to say weird, but actually I think it's stupid to block someone because they re-tweeted and/or replied to one of your tweets.
Which would make them absolutely stupid. Why post things on twitter that you don't want the world to see, share or reply to.
It's all very strange.
|Posted by: denizen 22 April 2016 - 03:51 AM|
Now who do I have to kill to get my hands on that script!
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 22 April 2016 - 05:47 AM|
|It really feels like just yesterday when we were hearing whispers of a new Macgyver show and here we are they are filming now... Of course now comes the will it be picked up waiting game...|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 22 April 2016 - 05:54 AM|
Maybe if you ask her very nicely, she will give it to you? I mean, if the pilot's already been done, she doesn't need the script anymore... right?
We don't even need the whole thing on paper; she could just scan the pages... or take pictures of every single page and send them to us
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 22 April 2016 - 05:55 AM|
| They've also been filming in Carson, California:
Carson Connect @carsonconnect 1. Apr.
PT Reports Filmers for the CBS Re-birth of “MacGyver” are also in Carson Using a Container Yard for the Show’s Pilot...:
|Posted by: Macgyver1985 22 April 2016 - 05:57 AM|
|This does not impress me at all, so much has changed from the original series It will be hard to enjoy the new reboot, and the supplanting of RDA as MacGyver. I am not acquainted with any of the on-screen characters in this reboot, and what their prominence is in the film business. I foresee this reboot will most presumably slump down the line.|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 22 April 2016 - 06:09 AM|
| Interesting Tweets from Addison Timlin (via https://twitter.com/Addijay ), one of the female leads:
Addison Timlin @Addijay 7. Apr.
When your costars sore from doing all these stunts and you're like "ugh me too, I did like 4 crunches yesterday"
Addison Timlin @Addijay 3. Apr.
My costar life is so tight rn #boonetill
(they were still filming while she tweeted these)
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 22 April 2016 - 06:56 AM|
| They did some early morning shooting at the end of march (via https://www.instagram.com/reducedfatgirl/ )...
So I guess they were already filming even BEFORE they had announced Lucas Till as the lead. Maybe to get rid of unwanted attention beforehand?
|Posted by: Barry Rowland 22 April 2016 - 07:31 AM|
|I can understand some secrecy in the filming, but trying to piece all this together it sure seems like a "fly by wire" kind of operation. I'm glad I have my DVD collection. I guess it's like the saying goes....you can never really go home again. On the other hand, the new show just might take off for a whole new generation of viewers.|
|Posted by: MiracleMac 22 April 2016 - 08:22 AM|
Yep that's the same place, Bronson Canyon caves. Good Knight MacGyver and Mountain of Youth were also filmed in there
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 22 April 2016 - 08:27 AM|
Oh, that's interesting! Is this place/area open for public usually?
I guess there aren't that many caves where a whole movie crew and their equipment fit in, so I guess that cave is a movie star all by itself and needs its own IMDb page
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 22 April 2016 - 08:34 AM|
Me too. I guess all that secrecy is because they don't know if the pilot will get picked up as a series?
Because I'm pretty sure they know about the importance of social media and that they need to address a whole new audience (because old fans are not always fond of reboots). And because MacGyver isn't a 17year old teen, the cast is quite divers and the Reboot (hopefully) will still be an action show, the potential audience could be quite big...
I guess if a whole season is confirmed, they will create an official website, a facebook page and/or Twitter account and such. It's standard procedure for movies (even small indie movies) and TV shows nowadays and expected.
|Posted by: Mr Duct Tape 22 April 2016 - 11:26 AM|
I knew something was familiar.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 22 April 2016 - 12:51 PM|
| I did some googling... seems this car crash stunt scene was done in the abandoned Hawthorne Mall:
>>The Hawthorne mall, once a booming mecca of retail in the South Bay, has been closed since 1999, with no current plans to re-open, renovate, or tear down. What remains is a collection of stair cases, structural beams, and empty store spaces that are creepy enough to make you think you’re living in a George Romero horror movie (or Walking Dead if you’re too young for the other reference).
The 40 acre property that once housed over 100 stores now sits deserted and boarded up, with security personnel patrolling the area to keep vandals and explorers at bay.<<
There's also a map and a YouTube video of a guy who went inside in 2014, doing a little documentary. Really creepy but a great location!
|Posted by: KiwiTek 22 April 2016 - 02:52 PM|
I just had a look through her twitter feed..... Esssh!
It's like being inside Penny Parkers head, but with non of the class.
Not exactly a booming endorsement for the show I'd have to say.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 22 April 2016 - 03:49 PM|
| She definitely seems.... how should I put it... "mental health challenged".
It's worrysome and maybe it's my inner psychologist talking, but: I'm not sure how she's going to hold up shooting an action show where you have to finish an episode within 8 to 10 days or something like that.
(Although she's been acting for a while, so I guess she seems to manage somehow...)
|Posted by: Barry Rowland 22 April 2016 - 07:41 PM|
|I know I saw it somewhere, but has there been a date set for the pilot to air? This is an interesting cast of characters so far. I looked at the Twitter feed too, and I really can't find a word to describe it.....I think you nailed it with mental health challenged Dash!|
|Posted by: KiwiTek 22 April 2016 - 08:57 PM|
The pilot hasn't been picked up by the network yet. So until/if that happens we wont know.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 23 April 2016 - 02:53 AM|
| Is it still possible nowadays that a pilot gets reshot or would the reboot being scrapped completely if the pilot episode is not good enough?
I remember there's an unaired "Charmed" Pilot. They recast one of the three Halliwell sisters and reshot the whole pilot episode. They also changed the pacing a bit while the dialogue mostly stayed the same. I think the same happened with "Angel" (the "Buffy" Spinoff).
I guess with so many projects to choose from these days and VoD and Netflix and stuff, this pilot has to be a hit with the test audience or the show won't get picked up at all....
|Posted by: Barry Rowland 23 April 2016 - 06:09 AM|
|You're right there Dash. There must be a hundred times more competition than in September 85. It seems like everything moves at a faster pace anymore.|
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 23 April 2016 - 10:11 AM|
|I have faith that the the show will be picked up but I will br with a huge sigh of relief when it's announced|
|Posted by: RDoyletv 23 April 2016 - 11:03 AM|
| I'm so looking forward to this pilot. It has been long over due. Heard a rumour that Randy Edelman is penning the new theme tune - but I don't know how true this is. Anyone able to confirm this?
|Posted by: Macgyver1985 23 April 2016 - 11:26 AM|
| Hi, RDoyletv! Welcome to MacgyverOnline!
I truly don't know what's happening in this new reboot. Possibly another person can confirm this?
|Posted by: MiracleMac 23 April 2016 - 12:07 PM|
It seem to be yeah open for the public, the entrance gates won't allow cars but you can walk there
I found, just updated aerial picture from google Earth (Bronson Canyon caves) and wondering if those trucks are MacGyver crew's. Of course it depends if there have been some other projects going on.
|Posted by: Barry Rowland 23 April 2016 - 04:40 PM|
|Thanks Kiwi! Welcome aboard RDoyletv!!|
|Posted by: RDoyletv 24 April 2016 - 01:27 AM|
| Thanks for the introduction.
Just an observation, but not every pilot gets branded Director's chairs, when creating a pilot episode for a new series.
Me thinks that, this suggests a serious series commitment by CBS is on the cards.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 24 April 2016 - 01:32 AM|
Good to know!
I guess because it's an action show and there are special effects, they might have a bigger budget than other tv shows and pilot episodes in general, e.g. a hospital show like "Saving Hope" where the most expensive part is probably the props (like half-open-cut surgery "patients").
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 24 April 2016 - 06:20 AM|
| Interestingly, the pic that Tarek Hassan posted of the stunt team 5 days ago is tagged with the location tag of Cairo. I wonder if they actually did some stunt work there (probably regarding the Mazari)?
(Of course, a MacGyver-Tag doesn't always mean they are actually involved in the reboot. They seem to do a lot of Parcour; so maybe they just see themselves as the MacGyver of Parcour.)
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 24 April 2016 - 09:34 AM|
| Even if we just get second unit stuff in another country I think it adds to the legitimacy of it...
Either way we begin a new week Monday so here is holding its another week full of cool Macgyver stuff.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 24 April 2016 - 09:29 PM|
| Writer Paul Downs Colaizzo posted this 4 weeks ago.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 24 April 2016 - 09:42 PM|
| as we all know, Colaizzo is the writer of the pilot episode
|Posted by: KiwiTek 25 April 2016 - 02:59 AM|
That's funny right there.
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 25 April 2016 - 03:20 AM|
|Interesting stuff here.|
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 25 April 2016 - 05:30 AM|
| After what I read on themacgyverproject blogspot we can be very happy with what we got in those seven years. If you read the story about the director of the Pilot episode we were lucky because at the end of the production of the Pilot almost everyone was prepared to kill each other off. There was an obvious reason why the Pilot has the Alan Smithee's name under it. Nobody seemed to be getting along. Than when everyone went their way Henry and John took their chance of continuing the show without Zlotoff.
From what I saw on the photo's it seems different this time and maybe Lee David Zlotoff is more involved. I still have my doubts but as I said before since I heard RDA say he takes no offense by it, I'm starting to turn around. I'm still skeptical about Lucas Till though but if I'm convinced with the next X-Men film, I'll give him a chance.
But I think most of our negativity is due to the past experiences on how MacGyver was treated. We always figured MacGyver as a show during the releases of the dvd's wasn't treated with the necessary respect. The rumours about a possible movie... Time and time again we got disappointed because it never got under way. Than a few years ago Zlotoff suddenly pops up, the comic is released and a game developed. That's when things finally got going. And all of a sudden we're in the middle of the Pilot's production. I don't think our concerns are that odd. Because suddenly it can't go fast enough. I don't think we should expect more of the same we had thirty years ago. We don't know what to expect and there has been a failed attempt before. That's what worry us.
|Posted by: RDoyletv 25 April 2016 - 06:55 AM|
| Your right MacGyverGod,
How MacGyver has been treated in the past, has been very disrespectful. But that has not been Zlotoff fault or CBS. Welcome to the world of Television. This is nothing new. Blame the Media Lawyers. RED TAPE is a big part of it, making and breaking contracts and doing the deals, slows down the whole process and ruins relationships at times.
But that is not down to Lee Zlotoff, in fact for all we know Zlotoff has been trying over the years to protect the brand and making sure that the MACGYVER movie wasn't made into a cheap comedy spoof. And before you can mention - MACGRUBER. Zlotoff tried his best to fight this film from being made and release, but legally it was hard to prove that copyright was being breached. In some ways, I'm glad MacGruber was made and flopped. It was a destitute imitation. And so the chances of them looking to do a comedy spoof on this again - very slim.
The MacGyver comic book, website, computer game app, has all been instigated by Zlotoff. It has taken many years of graft to get these projects off the ground. And I respect him for achieving his goals and ambitions. It is from these successes, especially the comic book, that CBS took an interest in this project.
There is a famous quote - It's not how we make mistakes, but how we correct them that define us. Yes, there have been errors in the past, but I trust that Zlotoff will have learnt from these errors and take the correct course of action.
CBS will be aware of all the negativity, and hence keeping things tight lipped and under wraps for as long as possible. Until they are ready to showcase New MacGyver to the world. This can be the best course of action. New Knight Rider has been used as an example, (that was made by NBC, not by CBS). This show gave away too much too early on, before launch, and the series promos were better than the real thing. That's never good. Most of the budget was reliant on special effects and lacked in the writing and storytelling. There was also a lack of chemistry between the actors on screen.
Yes, Zlotoff and Wrinkler were involved in Young MacGyver. But I am unsure as to what level of involvement they had (if any). Sometimes you can be given credit but have very little involvement. Glen A Larson had little or no participation in the remake of Knight Rider in 2008 (but got credited). That is never a good sign. Let's hope Zlotoff and Wrinkler, have both learnt from past mistakes on Young MacGyver and on the original show.
CBS has an excellent pedigree - they have had multiple successes with the show such as CSI. Perhaps they see MacGyver as the replacement for the CSI franchise. It has the potential to be, as successful. Why include George Eads in the casting, if they didn't have this vision?
At this point your worrying yourself unintentionally. Trust that they are making the right choices and move on. Look forward to the pilot instead of being skeptical. Believe me, if nothing else... You'll sleep better.
As for KiwiTek,
You seem to have difficulty reading? No, I have not got insider information. Don't be so Cheeky!
I was merely making an assumption based on my years of experience, as a TV producer here in Ireland. I know how it works.
Development is a very labour intensive process, and generally, a program can be in development for a minimum of 2 years before, a commitment to the pilot is ever given.
That is how I know! Happy?
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 25 April 2016 - 10:25 AM|
|No one has to like or dislike anything for me I am happy with the way it's turning out and I am curious to see Lucas till I figure a few episodes in I will determine if I like or not.|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 25 April 2016 - 12:49 PM|
| Sunil Malhotra got added to the MacGyver IMDb-Page as the character of Niles Cardon.
Found his Insta-Post from two weeks ago; sweet
|Posted by: denizen 25 April 2016 - 01:13 PM|
|Dash, that pic could be a sign of good things to come!|
|Posted by: Mr Duct Tape 26 April 2016 - 01:38 AM|
| I had a thought yesterday about the new show, and it relates to the voice overs. Do you think they'll use them?
I hope so honestly, it was a funny and interesting way to get to know the character. There's still one or another show that uses it, like the Flash.
|Posted by: RDoyletv 26 April 2016 - 05:52 AM|
| Can I add another thought to your comment Mr Duct Tape - perhaps they will use graphic elements similar to the style techniques used in BBC's Sherlock - to emulate MacGyver's thoughts.
I really liked how they used this technique in the advert MacGyver and the New Citan.
They could develop all sorts of different techniques to achieve this and make the show very quirky.
|Posted by: Mr Duct Tape 26 April 2016 - 07:30 AM|
|That is another good idea yes RDoyleTv. There's so many possibilities that they can use in the show and make fresh and exciting for old and new fans of the character.|
|Posted by: RDoyletv 26 April 2016 - 07:53 AM|
| Another thing that could work and be a nice addition to this series is some kind of CSI-Style shots.
MacGyver could be in a locked... let say "science lab". He looks around the room sees one, two, and three chemical elements in a glass cabinet. He reaches for the nearest thing to him, and smashes the glass. Removing each container.
MACGYVER? WHAT ARE YOU DOING? As he to describe what he's doing(to the damsel in distress), or to us through voice-over. We cut in vision to a stylistic (CSI inspired) shot, showing and explaining the science behind the chemical reactions. Almost as if, we are seeing his thoughts.
Cut back to scene, show the macgyverism take shape. And ta-dah... He creates a BOMB to blast open a door.
Now that would be the ICING on the cake for me ! ! !
Albeit, used within moderation.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 26 April 2016 - 08:07 AM|
| Why? How? That's so unfair, all this teasing *grrrr*
|Posted by: RDoyletv 26 April 2016 - 08:12 AM|
| We know CBS that you can't rush perfection.
But, the suspense is killing us.
Even just to know the first word...spoken.
I'd be even grateful for that...at this stage?
C'mon CBS, give us something to tease us?
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 27 April 2016 - 05:49 AM|
|Actually all of this is quite good marketing on CBS part and I am quite happy with it similar to the clapperboard idea from Skyfall/spectre|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 29 April 2016 - 03:53 AM|
| hm.... kinda looks familiar, no?
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 29 April 2016 - 04:11 AM|
| I'm not 100% sure, but....
> she liked ndecembers pic I just posted
> it fits the timeframe and place
> she talks about explosions setting of the sprinkler system
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 29 April 2016 - 04:13 AM|
| and.... she posted THIS
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 29 April 2016 - 05:19 AM|
| Good job again Dash I look toward to each of your posts
So I figure CBS is likely going to announce their fall lineup within he next 2-3 weeks meaning we should get confirmation fairly soon if this is going to be picked up or not. My hope is of course it's not only picked up but it's an awesome reboot we all wind up loving and can enjoy for 7 seasons.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 29 April 2016 - 05:25 AM|
Thanks a lot. It's getting harder and harder to find something, though. And it takes hours... that's time I really could have spent doing something else; but it's kinda addictive *lol*
Some of the people involved in set design and make up post tons of set pics from other shows they're involved in (e.g. Agents of Shields). I guess we really have to wait if/until the pilot gets picked up. I'm pretty sure the hush-hush-no-posts-and-if-you-post-no-tags-at-all-policy will stop by then, so hopefully soon.
|Posted by: denizen 29 April 2016 - 05:43 AM|
|Agreed. Thanks for the posts Dash.|
|Posted by: KiwiTek 29 April 2016 - 02:38 PM|
If I remember correctly the Knight Rider reboot didn't get picked up as a series until after the pilot had aired and they'd had time to review the viewership numbers. So going from that we may only see the pilot and then no series until summer.
Then again they may have enough confidence in it to just go straight to series. Who knows with this lot.
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 1 May 2016 - 06:02 AM|
| Two points
1. I had read on one of the articles back in March that Macgyver was pilot to series meaning if CBS green lights the pilot then it will be series. (Though when I read it I realized I had made 8 threads and don't want to talk too much here because I was told on another forum when I love something I tend to talk too much and I figured I don't want to get everyone here annoyed because I love Macgyver and I am excited to get new Macgyver adventures)
2. I have a feeling that Macgyver is gonna be picked up anyways specifically because every other network has a big spy show taken on abc 24 legacy fox etc Macgyver is the big one for CBS.
|Posted by: RDoyletv 1 May 2016 - 06:36 AM|
|I've just heard on the grapevine, that CBS have their hearts set on MacGyver replacing their CSI void. Hence them casting George Eads within the series. I was also told that the secrecy and the lack of information is deliberate, with cast and crew told what they can and cannot post. My source who works at a rival network, said they've heard only good things about this impending pilot. They know how much of a big fan I am of original show - and all they would divulge to me was that - I wouldn't be disappointed.|
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 1 May 2016 - 06:51 AM|
|While I have no inside sources from everything I have seen (including the pilot review) I don't think many Macgyver fans will be disappointed I am getting a strong 1st season vibe from everything so far (and Thank God they are using DXS as the orgnization) like I said this is beginning to feel very good of course some fans prefer the as I call them Mr. Rogers episodes (where Mac is apart of a community out reach issue which at this rate would be some weird cross over with teen mom) but I prefer the espionage epsiodes and I can't wait.|
|Posted by: MacsJeep 1 May 2016 - 07:05 AM|
| While is doesn't have to be all "spy" and espionage stuff for me, I definitely prefer the early seasons, so that kind of vibe would be good for me also. I didn't mind Black Rhino, but some of the Challenger's Club episodes and Tough Boyz were not my favorites.
So yes, early seasons vibe sounds good!
|Posted by: RDoyletv 1 May 2016 - 07:15 AM|
| I'm with you Macgyver12186,
I hated those...as you call them, Mr.Roger episodes (albeit I did enjoy the episode Tough Boys).
My favorite episodes off top of my head - were countdown, target macgyver, Kill Zone, the challenge, Hell week and any that had Murdoc in them.
I hope that the new series has a story which runs over the entire season, while having a "b" story which are self contained during each episode.
Don't be afraid to support this new series - I know that it may seem like their are only a handful of us. But I feel that the negative people, and RDA over-active retirement group, will either come round... Or turn out to be a dying breed - eventually.
|Posted by: Mr Duct Tape 1 May 2016 - 07:32 AM|
| I'm just happy to have more MacGyver adventures to enjoy!
PS: It would be cool to have Ricky Dean doing some voice overs
|Posted by: Mac Jackson 1 May 2016 - 03:53 PM|
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|Posted by: RDoyletv 5 May 2016 - 06:37 AM|
| I've just heard a little rumour (again just hear'say). Perhaps someone might be able to clarify.
But my source who works at a rival network in the US told me, that they have heard only good things coming from sources at CBS, re:MacGyver.
They tell me, that other networks are getting rather nervous about it. Disney for instance are supposedly stepping up their efforts to reboot the Young Indiana Jones franchise, in a bid to rival it.
In matters that may be unrelated, CBS are considering moving Supergirl Season 2 to its sister channel TheCW, due to bad ratings and exceptionally high production costs. The move would potential save the show from cancelation.
But the move means, that the budgets that would have been ear marked for that show will now go into others at CBS, most probably MACGYVER. If it is picked up to series. Who knows?
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 5 May 2016 - 06:54 AM|
Awesome I would hope so.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 5 May 2016 - 01:46 PM|
| Huh... Seems the pilot is done!
It says on her Twitter profile that Meg London-Boche is pilot director David Von Ancken's Assistant; so she must know.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 5 May 2016 - 01:55 PM|
| she has some pretty interesting pics on her Instagram as well... this must be the container yard in Carson:
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 5 May 2016 - 02:40 PM|
| We all know this location already, of course:
|Posted by: RDoyletv 8 May 2016 - 03:48 AM|
| I agree, with the above comments.
It's quite clear, that we all are striving for much the same things in this new series.
CBS won't be able to please all the fans, with absolutely every decision they make... But just like any successful marriage, it is all about compromise. We need to be mindful of that... as the audience.
That said, there are positives and negatives with every decision that is made, in life. You must learn from your mistakes, how we correct them - is what defines us.
As CBS embarks on this new series - We should look at the character, beyond RDA's portrayal. There is more to a successful series than just one actor. All the cast and crew involved make up the necessary components for a successful series, and lets hope that their hard work and efforts translate onto screen. Lucas Till has won this role and I wish him the very best. I bear no reservations nor do I rush to judgement...
I hope that we are on the horizon of new beginnings, new adventures and new macgyverisms. Stories that will entertain fans (new and old), and create a new allegiance of fans along the way, who will be inspired by this great character.
|Posted by: KiwiTek 11 May 2016 - 03:55 AM|
| Just spotted this on Meg London-Boche's twitter straight after she said MacGyver filming had begun.
This makes me all
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 11 May 2016 - 05:11 AM|
| Me too like I said from the glimpses we have seen this looks far better and far closer to the original then young Macgyver (which apart from the macgyverisms and Paladacki's casting what did they get right?)
Like I said this show has me with a mixture of emotions but mostly happy and excited
|Posted by: RDoyletv 11 May 2016 - 06:15 AM|
| This looks AMAZING
Could this be a window into MacGyver's Office or home?
In anticipation of this show, I too have mocked up how I think the new MacGyver Logo will be used, with a slight nod to CSI.
|Posted by: Macgyver1985 11 May 2016 - 09:07 AM|
|Your design looks great, RDoyletv!|
|Posted by: Mr Duct Tape 11 May 2016 - 09:26 AM|
|cool logo, well done.|
|Posted by: RDoyletv 11 May 2016 - 09:59 AM|
| Thanks very much, for the kind comments.
Here is another one I did, in the iconic style we are all accustomed too.
Now, If that doesn't get you excited...
|Posted by: RDoyletv 11 May 2016 - 10:24 AM|
|Modern Version, with a slight nod to CSI|
|Posted by: RDoyletv 11 May 2016 - 09:56 PM|
| Can't claim responsibility for creating this, but glad I found it online.
Felt, it was appropriate...as we are on the cusp of a new show.
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 12 May 2016 - 04:34 AM|
| If wednesday is the big day I am unsure if I will be happy or sad that day(meaning I am unsure of it will be picked up or not)
I am hoping so as well I still maintain and I would hope most Macgyver fans will agree with me that Mac is NOT some corny relic of the 80 but IS a really cool spy that CAN go toe to toe with the likes of Jason Bourne and James Bond. If they can exist always in the present and be able to work well then so can Mac.
|Posted by: RDoyletv 12 May 2016 - 05:04 AM|
| I'm hopefully optimistic Macgyver12186,
The hard work is evident - all we can do is pray that it translates onto screen.
The CBS network are looking for a replacement for CSI, This is the perfect show.
I completely agree - MacGyver is as good if not better than the likes of Jason Bourne or James Bond. In fact, I feel as though the audience will welcome him into this mix of genre. Similar to the way Jack Bauer was played in 24, It would be even better if CBS were to expand on, and give the character more depth and dimension - instead of the goodie-to-shoes approach RDA portrayed.
Remember, a while back a survey was done "Who would you rather have, in a case of emergency". On the list was your usual heavy-hitters. But to everyone's surprise MacGyver came out on top at No.1
But sadly their is at least 2/3 generations of young people who, don't know who MacGyver is.
Let's hope CBS are successful with their attempts, to introduce this character to a new audience while retaining the cult followers.
All they can do... is their best. You can't legislate for how the audience will react, until it airs.
But I have everything crossed for next Wednesday to be as successful as possible.
|Posted by: MiracleMac 12 May 2016 - 11:56 AM|
| Detailed Wednesday Schedule
4 PM in Carnegie Hall, 881 7th Ave. (57th Street and 7th Ave) happens CBS Upfront Presentation
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 12 May 2016 - 01:23 PM|
Does this mean that not only will get the announce the of macgyver and when it will air but perhaps (dare I dream) footage or even a trailer?
|Posted by: RDoyletv 12 May 2016 - 02:08 PM|
| If there is footage or a trailer (...I dare to dream too )
Can I ask for someone to please, please, please post it here.
Because god know when it will reach the emerald isle of Ireland, for me to see.
A BIG BIG thank you in advance.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 12 May 2016 - 02:29 PM|
In my experience with movie announcements, it's mostly some pictures first. Don't know how this works for TV-Shows, but I would prefer some moving pictures as well
|Posted by: Miasma 12 May 2016 - 05:45 PM|
I'd actually prefer they didn't do anything like that. I didn't like it in the Citan commercial, and I've only seen CSI once or twice, but didn't like it in that either. I find visual gimmicks distracting, and, well, gimmicky. They tend to take me out of the show.
Of course, I'd be fine with a voice-over.
|Posted by: RDoyletv 13 May 2016 - 01:23 AM|
| When CSI launched back in 2000, those visual techniques (or gimmicks as you describe) were ground-breaking.
Those techniques were used artistically to enhance the audiences perception, understanding, and theory of forensic science. It was used to great effect and enhanced the shows credibility. Allowing an audience into a world they were unfamiliar about, but yet felt they understood. The audience liked it so much that the show grew, developed and enhanced its artistic style over 15 successful seasons. CSI wouldn't have been the same show, if it wasn't for them.
If these visual techniques were around back in the 80s, there is no doubt in my mind that they would have been applied to the MacGyver series at the time.
The amazing techniques used in the advert MacGyver and the New Citan, gave the audience a glimpse of how best they could be applied to enhance MacGyver. The BBC series Sherlock has a similar artistic style and used an incredible array of visual techniques, to allow the audience see inside Sherlocks world and his thoughts. To use something similar on CBS MacGyver, would only enhance, rather than distract the audience. Especially as this new audience will be more accustomed and acclimatised to other shows adopting a similar creative style.
From CBS perspective, the challenge is to create a well-crafted series that relates to an audience, and for it to tell exciting and engaging stories each week, that compel the audience to return and watch the next episode. The audiences today are much tougher to entertain and have higher and greater expectations, for the look and feel of content, and the stories being told. The bottom line is that CBS will only make a show if it relates to an audience. Whether that show is entitled MacGyver or not, doesn't really matter to them. Pilot season gives them an indication of what works and what doesn't. You know the old saying... throw mud far enough and it will eventually stick to something.
But MacGyver has been given this opportunity, and it should be embraced with open arms. It probably won't get another opportunity on this scale again, any time soon. And as such MacGyver needs to mature, evolve and move with the times. For it to succeed and wow a new audience, it needs to move as much away from the out-dated original brief it had back in the 80s, to a new and perhaps a more bold approach. It is the only way it has a chance at surviving.
|Posted by: MiracleMac 13 May 2016 - 03:20 AM|
I have no idea how those presentations work...
|Posted by: RDoyletv 13 May 2016 - 03:25 AM|
| Generally at these presentations, the head of the channel will welcome the press and invited guests for attending, followed by his/her mission statement for the channel. Then they show a taster-reel with an overall look at what to expect on the channel over the course of that season.
And sometimes show a clip or two to highlight each show.
Normally the press department, issue details and promos for each show thereafter.
Hope that helps?
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 13 May 2016 - 03:38 AM|
| After lots of looking, I finally found another account of one of the Crew members...
Kris Manning is listed as "utility sound". He posted an interesting pic in April:
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 13 May 2016 - 03:41 AM|
| I wasn't sure if it was actually from the MacGyver set; but I found the location being eerily similar to the Bronson Cave Area pics we had.
Interestingly, the only comment on the photo is by Ralph Cartel. His account is open as well, and he posted this pic on the same day:
(Not that there is much to see, but this is the confirmation the Pic by Kris Manning actually is from the set....)
|Posted by: KiwiTek 13 May 2016 - 03:50 AM|
I had to go back and watch the Citan commercial because I couldn't remember what your were talking about.
I think I know what you mean about being taken out of the show. I tend to focus on them and try to read it and understand it rather than what's going on in the story. That might suggest that they are badly done though because they are suppose to make the story easier to follow not make you think harder.
I'm not much of a TV watcher any more so don't think I've seen any other shows lately with that kind of thing in them.
Nice find DashboardOnFire!
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 13 May 2016 - 04:07 AM|
| by the way, Kris Manning also posted a video on FB in March. Nothing really happens there... but it's still quite interesting for us
|Posted by: RDoyletv 13 May 2016 - 04:11 AM|
| Nice one Dash,
Can I say thank you for trolling though the internet to find these things.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 13 May 2016 - 04:16 AM|
| We should have organized ourselves as soon as we knew they're going to start shooting in March; "patrolling" all the social media accounts... would have been interesting for sure. And a lot easier if you don't have to scroll that far back.
It really takes hours, but it's also kinda fun. A bit like an easter egg hunt
|Posted by: RDoyletv 13 May 2016 - 04:39 AM|
| Here is another one of my mock ups...
This time putting the new logo and actor together for the first time.
Interesting combination...It seems a perfect fit to me!
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 13 May 2016 - 05:14 AM|
Fantastic work that looks official almost...
Well wednesday we will know what is going on.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 13 May 2016 - 05:28 AM|
| Seems like Special Effects Supervior Thomas L. Bellissimo didn't like the location
|Posted by: Miasma 13 May 2016 - 08:20 AM|
I do agree that the show needs to mature and move away from the outdated style of the 80s, but I don't think flashy visual gimmicks are the best way to do that. Stronger storylines, more well-developed characters, improved cinematography, etc, etc, are all commonplace in tv shows today, and I believe those are the things this new iteration of MacGyver needs to embrace. "Breaking Bad," for example is highly regarded as one of the best shows of all time, and it earned that reputation through its writing, acting, etc. We didn't need to see spiffy little graphical representations of how Walt created crystal meth. In fact, I think that sort of thing would have detracted from the show, rather than enhancing it.
(And, incidentally, the creators of Breaking Bad admit to being MacGyver fans, and it's pretty obvious when you see some of the ideas Walt comes up with. Heck, the series finale is largely based around one of Walt's "MacGyverisms"!)
|Posted by: MiracleMac 13 May 2016 - 11:06 AM|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 13 May 2016 - 11:48 AM|
| hm.... is this a good sign?
Peter M. Lenkov is a writer and producers, according to his IMDb page (currently for Hawaii 5-0).
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 13 May 2016 - 11:52 AM|
| Twitter is bursting right now! (Just came home; missed everything )
Variety says MacGyver Reboot has been picked up at CBS:
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 13 May 2016 - 12:11 PM|
| hm... does this mean they will reshoot the pilot??? Or just that Colaizzo wrote the script, but isn't on board to write other episodes and the rest of the cast will either die or not come back without explanation?
A reimagining of the television series of the same name, the new MacGyver follows a 20-something MacGyver (X-Men: Apocalypse's Lucas Till) as he gets recruited into a clandestine organization where he uses his knack for solving problems in unconventional ways to help prevent disasters from happening.
A high priority for CBS Television Studios — which produced the original — the drama was originally written by R. Scott Gemmill (NCIS: L.A.) but ultimately picked up to pilot with new writers Paul Downs Colaizzo (CBS pilot LFE from last season) and Brett Mahoney (Code Black) — though the network may be tossing out that script for a new one as the duo's future with the series remains in question as Hawaii Five-0's Peter Lenkov has boarded the drama. Henry Winkler, who executive produced the original series, is on board to serve in the same capacity alongside Michael Clear, head of production at James Wan's Atomic Monster. Wan (Aquaman, Mortal Kombat, Saw) will exec produce and segue into TV with the project.
CBS originally had trouble casting the lead after ordering the pilot without a final script. David Von Ancken directed the pilot and exec produces alongside original MacGyver creator Lee Zlotoff.
CSI grad George Eads co-stars as there will be some changes to the secondary cast as Addison Timlin, Michelle Krusiec and Joshua Boone are unlikely to return.
|Posted by: RDoyletv 13 May 2016 - 01:34 PM|
| This is great news!
Pilots are done... to test certain things. Generally if mistakes are to be made, this is the right time to make them.
With MacGyver getting series commitment. It gives the production team a second chance to fix the stuff that didn't work during the pilot.
I reckon they will reshoot certain elements of the pilot again and improve on the things that they learn't during this test phase.
If they start production in August, it would mean the pilot and subsequent series, will be ready to air mid-season
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 13 May 2016 - 01:41 PM|
| On a German website, I read something about "mid-season". So, that means later than September?
I guess they will need some more time to flesh everything out - if the other cast members are being recast, they need some new "best friends" for MacGyver with new backstories...
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 13 May 2016 - 03:13 PM|
| Forgot to post this pic, which Kris Manning posted on the same day as the video from the MacGyver set:
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 14 May 2016 - 02:05 PM|
| Meghan Lyvers just confirmed her participation in the Reboot. I actually found her account weeks ago, but because she's also involved in a CBS military show I thought these pics were probably not from the MacGyver set. They do an awful lot look like the set pics from Kris Manning I already posted, so... see and decide for yourself:
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 14 May 2016 - 02:12 PM|
| She has some other very, very interesting pics - but I can't decide if they're from MacGyver or that other CBS Military Drama Show (Four Stars)...
although THIS ONE caught my attention - I've already seen it weeks ago but didn't make the connection because I haven't found David Von Ancken assistant's account yet... just remember that chemistry lab pic Kiwi posted recently from her account and check out the background:
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 15 May 2016 - 04:24 AM|
| I've been sitting on this pic for weeks, not knowing if it's from the set (they also shot an episode of Rush Hour in Hawthorne Mall at the time; that could have explosions, too?). Since then, Kristine Tack (Rogue Vegan) who's definitely involved in the Reboot also commented on it.
photo credit to https://www.instagram.com/slowcomputer728/ while Kristine commented on the "re-instagramed" photo via https://www.instagram.com/iatselocal728ywc/
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 15 May 2016 - 04:28 AM|
| Even if they reshoot the pilot, I guess it's safe to say it looks to be a decent production with a decent budget and some action involved. We might expect even more of the pilot version that will show up on screen - be it a recut version or a new one.
I still hope we get to see the original version some day.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 15 May 2016 - 04:31 AM|
| This one looks a lot like the pics posted by Kris Manning:
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 15 May 2016 - 04:34 AM|
| This one also has a comment by Kristine Tack via https://www.instagram.com/iatselocal728ywc/
She's probably referring to Nathan December who had posted a pic of the Hawthorne-Mall-Set via https://www.instagram.com/ndecember/
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 15 May 2016 - 01:25 PM|
I don't want mid season i want it in the fall
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 15 May 2016 - 01:33 PM|
| I'm not sure if Fall is possible...
...they have to recast all secondary cast members
...hire new crew members
...get the new writers to write new scripts and maybe a new pilot episode
...maybe reshoot the pilot
Also, Lucas Till begins production on a movie in September as an actor and producer. I'm not sure if they are able to have a new crew, new cast and a pilot plus a few episodes ready by then.
But I hope we will know more on Wednesday.
At least now that it's official, we won't have to go scouting for set pics in secret . Peter Lenkov posts quite a lot from the Hawaii Five-0 set.
|Posted by: denizen 15 May 2016 - 08:33 PM|
|Thanks to all your contributions on this DashboardOnFire. I think we can all agree that you have done some fine detective work!|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 16 May 2016 - 12:53 AM|
| Thanks a lot *polishing shiny detective work badge*.
My go-to-sources are pretty exhausted now, though. I guess we have to wait until they add more contributors to the IMDb page. Maybe some more pics will turn up, but probably not.
I also wonder what they are going to show on Wednesday if they don't use the existing pilot... I guess they can still use some material of Lucas and George...
|Posted by: RDoyletv 16 May 2016 - 01:30 AM|
The promos are no doubt being worked on, using the pilot material, focusing on Lucas Till and George Eads footage.
I disagree, with all the media hype - that there is chaos and mis-management around this production. CBS are more experienced, talented, and professional than that. They would not be committing time, resources, and money into a project that had failed at pilot stage.
No, I'm convinced that huge potential was seen by this pilot, and the tweaking or re-writing of scripts and the replacement of supporting cast, are those extra nuances that are needed to improve the overall quality of the final product. Bringing on board Peter Lenkov provides that extra reassurance that this series will be steered on the right path.
Something similar happened during the development phase at The big bang theory, also by CBS. In any line of work, rigourous testing of a product is done at development stage to iron out problems or weakness. Before mass producing and unleashing it on the consumer. Making a TV series is no different.
Pilots are notorious for screen testing certain actors, testing certain scripts, writers, directors. This is all part of the creative process that goes into formulating a look, style, pace, story arc, and developing the perfect chemistry between all the supporting cast.
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 16 May 2016 - 04:34 AM|
| To post my fears about Mac being a mid-season start date the issue here is that this is eerily similar to the path Young Macgyver took in 2003 if I remember correctly the only difference is I don't think there were reshoots but yeah
Project was announced
Jared Paladacki cast as clay Macgyver (people up in arms how can Mac have a nephew etc though I thought of a cool in universe explanation)
Wb says it will be s mid season show
Mid season it comes and goes and young Macgyver disappears....
I fear the same may happen here as ironically many still view Macgyver as an extension of RDA's real personality even though he has said in many interviews Jack O'Neill is much closer to his own personality then Macgyver...
But we shall see I am hoping it actually happens but the fear is starting up not going to lie.
|Posted by: RDoyletv 16 May 2016 - 05:35 AM|
| I understand your concerns Macgyver12186,
But unlike WB Young MacGyver, CBS has a high-level of commitment attached to this pilot.
Let's look to the positives - Lucas Till must have played the part extremely well to still be attached to this project as MACGYVER. At the end of the day, he is the most important character and the whole series hinges on him, and whether he can make people believe he is that character.
Yes, there are some plot problems with the story, tweaking has to be done. But hey.... Pilots are never the finished article.
Heck, TOY STORY had a similar faith at the development stage at Disney. They couldn't get the story right ( and numerous re-writes happened). Woody was even a villain in one draft of the script. But huge potential could be seen in the Toy Story concept and pilot materials. With the addition of new, more experience people helping to steer the Toy Story project on course, and in the right direction. This lead to the successful end product. You can never have too much development work done, before a show goes into production.
From all the press I've read, CBS are making all the right moves and the necessary adjustments to improve the show so that it is ready to air. Nobody from CBS has commented that disaster has stuck within Team MacGyver. For all we know, they are making minor improvements to what was a fantastic pilot episode.
CBS' intention is to have MacGyver fill the hole left behind by CSI. This is no easy task, and hence all this "Chaos" as some critics have described it. But how many shows have critics ever made? None! They don't know how much time, effort, commitment goes into making a TV show. Truthfully this is all common practice when trying to develop a new show. You never get it right, straight away.
Peter Lenkov involvement, is sort of like bringing an experienced CAPTAIN aboard to sail a ship, from A to B. Or getting Pep Guardiola the highest paid football manager involved to coach your team to go and win the league.
And believe me, you only have to read these articles to see that CBS MacGyver has huge support and commitment attached to this project - it is by no way a WB production, or sinking ship like the TITANIC.
If they didn't see huge potential in this series, or felt it was weak, why would they be assigning one of their best producers to spearhead this huge undertaking / operation. Lenkov involvement further highlights CBS' commitment to this program. He is highly skilled and has huge amounts of experience at putting a fresh take on old classics.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 25 May 2016 - 09:24 AM|
| No clue what this means, but it's pretty interesting... is this old or just made retro to look old?
|Posted by: KiwiTek 25 May 2016 - 12:07 PM|
| I would say it's an old original filming sign since it's in a photo frame like that.
One positive side effect of this new show is that we might get to see more "behind the scenes" type stuff like this from the old show as they use it to promote.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 25 May 2016 - 12:23 PM|
| The signs used for the Reboot were yellow and not so interesting-looking (I found it on April 29th but never posted it)... so whoever lives around California should watch out for these:
|Posted by: RDoyletv 25 May 2016 - 10:00 PM|
| Hey Dash,
Just noticed on Instagram that Peter Lenkov has posted some more pics referencing MacGyver.
I still have no clue how to post this kind of stuff as best as you do, so Dash please do the honours.
But on one picture, someone replies quite angrily that the production of MacGyver will be moved from Los Angeles to Atlanta.
Can someone explain the implications of this move? Is this a good or bad thing? I'd be curious to know, would Atlanta be known for it's producing of TV programs?
Back in the 80s, I felt MacGyver had a great look and feel when the show moved to Vancouver, Canada. The scenic locations were rich, diverse and plentiful. Can someone comment on how Atlanta would compare in comparison?
|Posted by: denizen 26 May 2016 - 12:33 AM|
| One word. Cost. Avoiding tax incentives. So technically more can be done on the show with less of a cost implication.
In fact, Atlanta is slowly becoming the new Vancouver for a lot of shows. Even some movies like Fast & Furious 8.
The Walking Dead, Vampire Diaries, The Originals & Franklin & Bash are/were among a few of the shows being shot there.
|Posted by: KiwiTek 26 May 2016 - 03:38 AM|
| Here's an information site about it.
|Posted by: RDoyletv 26 May 2016 - 04:26 AM|
| Thank you Kiwitek,
That article was most interesting and fascinating.
Something similar is happening in Ireland at the minute - all thanks to the huge success of the Game of Thrones series, shot in Belfast. And of course the recent filming for Star Wars Ep 8, which has just completed filming.
Similar studios spaces are planned for Dublin and Limerick, to accommodate Hollywood Movies.
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 26 May 2016 - 06:30 AM|
|I wonder if the show will be set in Atlanta as well? (Perhaps they will reboot matlock as well sorry when I think of Atlanta I can't help but think about everyone's favorite lawyers )|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 26 May 2016 - 08:06 AM|
I'm at my Dad's place until Sunday (cat-sitting while he's away *lol*) so I will try to figure out how to do Screen shots on his Computer, but can't guarantee anything yet.
In case anyone is wondering about my writing, that's because this Computer is automatically correcting my "wrong" German spelling that's not actually German
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 26 May 2016 - 08:10 AM|
I remember set dresser Joseph Fedo commenting on FB about being glad that the Show stayed in LA. I guess with so many movie-making People in California, it's not that easy anymore for the Crew to find enough longterm Jobs? I can imagine that People are angry about production moving to Atlanta, because not everyone who was involved in the Pilot will be able to go there.
I also noticed that the whole cast besides Lucas and George have been deleted from the IMDb page. Guess that really means the whole Pilot will be reshot in Atlanta now.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 26 May 2016 - 08:40 AM|
| Another article about the LA-Screening for international buyers with some VERY, VERY interesting tidbits:
Of that newcomer for the fall schedule, CBS screened only a 20-minute sequence for the 300-odd buyers on hand. “In the end, you’re going to believe he’s MacGyver,” is how exec producer Peter Lenkov described one of the changes he’ll be making to CBS’s upcoming reboot of the classic drama. The exec producer told World Screen Newsflash that the main character of Angus MacGyver (played by Lucas Till) would be reconstructed as “more of an adult, losing the long stringy hair and looking a little more like his dad [in the original].” There’ll also be a lot of MacGyverisms in the script. Alongside the bromance between him and co-star George Eads, there will also be a love interest for Angus that spans the season and involves “betrayal and eventual reconnection,” Lenkov said. That female role has yet to be cast.
I sure would have liked to see that 20-minute sequence... Is it usual to sell a Show with material that won't even make it into the Pilot Episode? I mean, the buyers won't really know what they will buy in the end besides the household Name of MacGyver...
|Posted by: MacsJeep 26 May 2016 - 09:02 AM|
|Thank goodness! That description sounds much more promising!|
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 26 May 2016 - 09:22 AM|
| Weird well maybe a second trailer will be out this summer like I said I am curious if we will get the original pilot.
I genuinely liked the way Mac looked in the trailer I just don't want his hair to be too short
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 26 May 2016 - 09:30 AM|
|I'm also curious if we will get some parts of the original plot (e.g. Mac being a prisoner of war). I guess some traumatic Background Story is kinda Standard nowadays - PTSD issues make a hero seem more "human"...|
|Posted by: RDoyletv 26 May 2016 - 09:54 AM|
| It looks like Peter Lenkov has read and taken on board all the comments and feedback raised on this site.
Most notably, "like his dad" (referencing the original).
Nice move! Very pleased.
|Posted by: Mr Duct Tape 26 May 2016 - 10:49 AM|
exactly what I was thinking! Promising and intriguing, a more "clean " and interesting premise for the series.
|Posted by: RDoyletv 26 May 2016 - 11:06 AM|
| I had heard a rumour (can't say who),
That CBS big wigs had considered dropping Lucas Till due to the backlash.
Since Limitless wasn't returning, a name that was muted for the role, was Jake McDorman.
Obviously, the production team fought hard to keep Lucas. He must be worth it. I personally, think he played/looked the part, from what I saw in the promo.
SOOOOO glad that they are going down the root of ... This is the original MacGyver's son. I also like, the way they will be making him more adult-like. I hope they address the cockiness also. Never worked in the original either.
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 26 May 2016 - 11:15 AM|
| Wait now it's a sequel noooooo I really wanted a reboot and in terms of negativity toward that actor sadly everyone who isn't RDA would get the same treatment heck Daniel Day Lewis would of been called the worst actor in the world had he tried to follow in RDA's footsteps
Sadly I am now getting worried Very worried
|Posted by: RDoyletv 26 May 2016 - 11:52 AM|
| I disagree with you MacGyver12186,
There was a big backlash from fans, that CBS were in some way erasing or disrespecting RDA's version.
This way the reboot - focuses on Angus MacGyver Jr., (son of the original MacGyver character, played by RDA).
This makes more sense, with the show set in modern day time...and this way it opens up the possibility of a guest appearance of RDA in the role of his DAD. Be it, living or dead.
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 26 May 2016 - 12:55 PM|
| No actually it makes it worse in my opinion of your going to commit to an idea commit to it. All of this reeks of WB a young Macgyver stuff... Look I will still see it but inventing family members who don't exist just to make the 80's show even more sacred is well bad. Sorry I love the original just like I love the first 6 bond films and the first 3 batman films but you have to move on and resets mosh characters for a new generation. And again mac being cocky isn't an issue in the first season of the orignal he was like I said I wanted to see Mac become Macgyver essentially how he wen from cock 25 year old too at the end of say season 3 the Macgyver we all know and love.... But of course we live in the days Internet and execs getting scared oh well perhaps we should start a sub section of how this could of played out how the original plan went through.
My hope is very little is made out of his relation to the original and that they keep things vague on purpose. Otherwise I will be a little more then upset...
|Posted by: MacsJeep 26 May 2016 - 01:00 PM|
| I hadn't actually realized he was going to be Mac's son in the redone pilot. If I'm honest, I really do prefer it because he can be HIS OWN MAN now without me keep thinking of the original. I liked that about the Knight Rider reboot. You don't keep thinking in your head, Mac would never have done that...and so on.
The shorter hair more mature thing was all I originally read into in this post, though, and that in itself was good. Son of as well? Works even better.
I'm starting to look forward to this now. Lucas was actually better in the trailer than I expected. I was shocked by how his deep voice was, and only his hair gave me the boy band vibe. Shorter hair, more mature...YES! I'm liking the vibe!
C'mon CBS you can pull this off now!!!
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 26 May 2016 - 02:00 PM|
I'm not sure about that!
It's a bit confusing, but it says in the article that (...) the main character of Angus MacGyver (played by Lucas Till) would be (...). Alongside the bromance between him and co-star George Eads, there will also be a love interest for Angus (...)
I think it's still a Prequel. Mac hated his Name; why would he call his son Angus? I'm not sure if the author maybe misunderstood something... maybe we get to see his Dad in flashbacks?
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 26 May 2016 - 02:08 PM|
You know, that's what I don't understand. I mean, what did they expect? They knew beforehand that even if they had hired a triple Oscar winner for Mac, there would have been backlash.
There's always backlash when you're rebooting. Heck, there would have been backlash if they had hired RDA to make a Sequel (e.g. that he's not fit enough to do it anymore). That's just the way it goes.
This reboot falls or suceeds on his main character and therefore on the actor that Plays him. That's why you should be absolutely sure about him before you hire a Pilot without a script and a first Season without liking the Pilot and cast... Sometimes I'm wondering if they took enough time to think everything through; on the other Hand they had tried to do this reboot for years so they should have had enough time to do some thinking, no?
|Posted by: MacsJeep 26 May 2016 - 02:18 PM|
|Even if he isn't Mac's son, and that's an error, I'm still liking the shorter hair and more mature version they're offering up. It sounds like they've listened, and are adjusting a little. Works for me so far.|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 26 May 2016 - 02:34 PM|
| For me too! It also Shows that they are interested in opinions by fans of the original.
I'm really wondering when they'll start Shooting again. If they really do a complete reshoot with new Locations... they'll Need new costumes for the new cast, new sets etc... that's quite some pressure time-wise to be done in September / October.
|Posted by: RDoyletv 26 May 2016 - 03:06 PM|
I can't see Locations changing, perhaps a few alterations maybe, small adjustments and maybe a few extra one's might be added. For the most part, the hardest job is getting the right cast in place.
A lot of the action sequences from the pilot will probably be kept and re-edited to fit in with the new script and actors etc.
All the rest will slot into place. Each person has a role and contributes accordingly. This isn't new or unique, and this is quite common on productions, etc.
Once the show enters production, everything will run like clockwork. They will probably begin shooting in early June.
Pilot episodes, generally get re-shot and re-edited before the real first episode airs. For example, BBC's Sherlock shot a pilot ep and re-shot the Pilot episode before broadcast. They learnt an enormous amount through the pilot, amending and adjusting the script, style, look, etc. accordingly before re-shooting the pilot again and creating a fantastic stylist program.
I came across this article today, check this out
(...) Of all of CBS’s new fall shows, the reboot of the ’80s series MacGyver generated the most interest in social media, according to analysis from The WIT.
(...) ...the trailer logged 2.6 million views on CBS’s official Facebook page and its YouTube playlist (restricted to a U.S. online audience). That number reflects a curiosity about the revival, which opens Friday nights at 8 p.m.
(...) “Judging by the first reactions however, CBS is far from having convinced its audience it has something new to bring in the crowded world of remakes of TV and movie franchises,” says Caroline Servy from The WIT. “’Too generic,’ ‘not risky,’ ‘not the right guy for the part’—viewers have a lot to say and are not quite ready to forget Richard Dean Anderson and his mullet.”
It is refreshing to see Peter Lenkov, address fan concerns. But as a producer myself, making a show by committee doesn't work either. Peter with his years of experience will be aware of this fact, and he'll want this to work and be amazing, just as much as we all do. From his recent Instagram posts, he knows the importance of getting this right, and by what I have read so far, and it seems he wants to respect, honour and persevere the original program. Perhaps his vision is to play homage to it somehow, who knows? Only time will tell.
|Posted by: Miasma 26 May 2016 - 06:16 PM|
I agree with you. I think it's still a prequel (or reimagining), not a sequel about his son. I really think the "looks more like dad" comment was just a slip of the tongue, and they simply meant "looks more like the original MacGyver." (and I had the exact same thought you did about the name: Why would Mac name his son 'Angus,' a name that he himself hated so much, he NEVER used it? It wouldn't make a bit of sense.)
|Posted by: denizen 26 May 2016 - 08:43 PM|
| If it is in fact a continuation and they use Angus jr. Then it will be a clear indication that they have no knowledge of the original show. They need to research the original.
I honestly felt no connection to the original trailer. So the fact that they are re-shooting it is a good sign. However i have to ask. If they go with a continuation, where is Sam??
|Posted by: KiwiTek 27 May 2016 - 12:58 AM|
That still doesn't make sense because this new guy is suppose to be the same MacGyver coming out of high school not the son of RDA's MacGyver.
He has the same name and we know MacGyver hates the name so why on earth would he give his son the name he hates.
It really doesn't. All it tells us is that these guys don't know the character's background and apparently can't be bothered researching it... I mean geeze Louise... we've got the http://www.macgyveronline.com/database/macgyver and http://www.macgyveronline.com/database/timeline it's not that hard to work out.
If the reference was to his grandfather then that would immediately lock this show in sync with the old.
These guys need to release that they are dealing with 30 years of iconic lore. They can't just make willy nilly changes and expect the fans to except it. It's akin to making James Bond a security guard.
|Posted by: KiwiTek 27 May 2016 - 02:26 AM|
Yep. That's why it's up to the people running the show to make sure the overall product is right.
You're point however is somewhat undermined when those people who as you pointed out may have just been born when the original show aired, start spouting on about how great this pilot is and comparing it to the original.
Do you know that for sure or is it an assumption on your part?
I was thinking about this pilot earlier today and it occurred to me that I wouldn't be supprised if we saw some changes between the pilot and the rest of the show. It certainly wouldn't be the first time it's been done. They did it with Knight Rider 2005, 6 Million Dollar man, Man From Atlantis (I think from memory), even the original MacGyver pilot had differences to the rest of the show.
|Posted by: RDoyletv 27 May 2016 - 07:52 AM|
| I feel sorry for CBS. It is a case of "Your damned if you do, and damned if you don't". And, you're not going to please everyone.
When this series was initially muted, and it was leaked that this series would focus on a 20 something MacGyver. I originally thought the show would be set in the 70s, but then it said.... it was set in Modern day. This confused me and others greatly and had many people wondering about this series. You can't have a prequel to a show, then set it in the future - just doesn't make sense.
The many audience reactions online were that CBS were disrespecting the original series because they were replacing RDA for Lucas. And no one could replace RDA as MacGyver.
CBS' intentions are good. They want to bring back this new series in a big way and introduce this extraordinary character to a new audience. The continuation storyline makes the most sense. And should help to dissipate the negative concerns raised by some (mostly RDA fans, and not so much MacGyver fans).
From what I read out of that article, (I felt it was quite clear and self-explanatory). RDA's MacGyver now becomes the Grandpa Harry role and is referenced in the pilot promo. This makes the most sense, our new adventure is cut from the same cloth and has learnt all his wisdom and know-how from his late father. Fans of the original should rejoice, it is a nod to the past, and respects the integrity of the old show, while moving the show forward. Plus this helps explain the Morden day timeline/ viewpoint, and the introduction of new characters into this MacGyver's world.
The series needs to get off the ground to a fresh start, without having to look to the past too much. For example, the naming of the clandestine organisation in the new series - could be a nod to the past. Lincoln wonders what they should call the agency and Mac (thinking about his father's past), suggests the Phoenix Foundation.
As for SAM, who knows - this character might turn up in future episodes. I always hated that last episode anyway. Who was that woman mentioned anyway? It would have been more plausible for them to have referred to Nicki, Penny, or Kate Connelly (from season 1), as SAM's mother. Not some character we never saw or heard of, before. Have we all forgotten how bad some of the writing was on the original show? Timelines and story arcs were messed up from time to time anyway. So, therefore, CBS can have a creative license at moulding history to fit within this new series' start point.
But that aside, It is very plausible, that within the intervening years RDA met someone, settled down and had a child called Angus.
Why would Mac name his son 'Angus,' a name that he hated so much, he NEVER used it? Firstly, in "Good Knight.." episode I felt he grew to like his name. Secondly, It is quite common within families to name a sibling after the father, so as that child carries on the father's name, it's a tradition thing. It happened in my family, and now that my dad has passed away, I feel most privileged to carry on his name. So, already I can relate to this character. Thirdly, he had a wife (who gave birth to this baby), she may have decided for them. They say behind every strong man, is an equally strong woman, supporting them - Perhaps he didn't get a say in the matter.
Who knows?. We've got to start using our imagination. Let's watch this show a fresh. A new MacGyver show, in any form, is better than none at all.
No, If the show has to begin somewhere, this is the most logical and less messy. Fans of the original, get to keep their MacGyver character intact, and a new MacGyver and new series are born.
|Posted by: MacsJeep 27 May 2016 - 09:58 AM|
| I think we're worrying about something that might not even be fact, it could be a slip of the tongue - he might not be Mac's son, but simply moulded more on the original - which I think would be enough for me, at least.
Are you SURE he won't be Sam? His middle name was Angus, after all? Sam was never actually his name at all. They could easily say he'd taken his dad's surname. I've known people do it in reality, so its not impossible. (I know the years don't exactly fit, but hey, its Hollywood!)
Let's face it, there are lots of possibilities which way it could go, but I am simply rejoicing in the fact that they did listen to the fans concerns and are making the character more mature, shorter hair, and more like the original fans expect.
Studios should never pander too much to fans, but they do need to listen to a degree and I think, or rather hope that's what is going on here.
Fingers crossed. And hey, it got me more positive and who saw that coming?
|Posted by: RDoyletv 27 May 2016 - 12:58 PM|
| Why is this such a big deal? Am I missing something.
This series is about a new MacGyver (supposedly RDA's son) called Angus.
Why is this such a bad thing? Can't we just accepted this? Surely, in the intervening years since the program was off the air. He got married, had a son, they named it Angus, and MacGyver Sr....kicked the bucket?
And let's move on with the new show.
It sounds about the most plausible premise I've heard so far, and it keeps the two shows uniquely separate.
Oh... And It opens up the option for RDA to come back... Living or dead.
|Posted by: MacsJeep 27 May 2016 - 02:30 PM|
| It's no big deal to me, either way. As long as the premise is closer to the original like they have promised, and Mac looks and acts a bit more mature and less cocky, I think I could be happy. They can't please everyone. It's not going to happen.
I have always simply wanted something closer to the original than was first promised, and since they're re-shooting the comments sound closer to the mark, at least for me.
Time will tell!
|Posted by: RDoyletv 27 May 2016 - 02:50 PM|
| Totally agree with you MacJeep,
At the end of the day, this is all about a New MacGyver.
I loved the old show. I thought RDA was fantastic in the role.
I'm looking forward to Lucas Till's portrayal.
I'm liking the changes so far, and enjoyed the promo - it had potential... So if we are start with that as the base line.
This NEW series, can only get better.
|Posted by: Miasma 27 May 2016 - 06:21 PM|
I feel the same way-- it doesn't matter if it's a sequel to the original series, or if it's a reboot/prequel/re-imagining of it. As long as it's good, I'm happy.
I never understood the concern some people had about this somehow erasing the original show. That's nonsense. The original still exists, and will continue to exist. Like I said before, if this is a reboot/prequel/reimagining, it's really no different than Batman Begins. That was an origin story, but it was never intended to match up with any of the previously existing Batman films. It was just a new take on the same character. And guess what? All of the other Batman films still exist. It'll be the same situation with this.
|Posted by: KiwiTek 28 May 2016 - 03:43 AM|
I think people just really wanted to have a continuation or at least have a single universe more along the lines of the Star Trek TV shows or Star Wars, instead of a disjointed approach where we have the same characters in new story universes each time.
But we're kind of guessing on all this at the moment based on that one comment which as pointed out might well have simply been a slip of the tongue.
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 28 May 2016 - 08:42 AM|
The issues are there are many universes in MacGyver already and before everyone says no. Well either that or continuity is out the window
Universe 1 season 1 of macgyver, Mac is a Vietnam vet who met Peter Thornton due to a horse smuggling scheme if I remember correctly. He doesn't mind guns (even shoots one in the pilot) he drinks occasionally and he I believe used to smoke. Again based on the pilot. Also, he went to high school an old high school girlfriends home and no mention of Jack Dalton or Mike at all
Universe 2 seasons 2-7 Mac now was never a Vietnam vet spent the 70's in various colleges. They met due to Murdoc. Jack Dalton and Mike appear and were important in elementary school -high school. Has a son
Universe 3 TV movies- the Citan commercial macgyver went to college in London was friends with Paul and also did archaeology. Brief mention of DXS ( in the trail to doomsday) mention of Sam at all. Mac also has a daughter, not a son
Universe 4 (that didn't happen but almost did) Young Macgyver: Phoenix Foundation is now apparently back in the military, and Mac has a nephew.
Universe 5 the new rebooted version.
So this nervousness about universes is a little silly as I hate to be the person who tries to combine the 4/5 universes above lol.
|Posted by: perfectlykevin 28 May 2016 - 08:59 AM|
All these universes. I blame that dern Stargate program the DSX covertly started up...
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 28 May 2016 - 09:02 AM|
|Posted by: KiwiTek 28 May 2016 - 04:03 PM|
| With the exception of the Young MacGyver idea which never eventuated and therefore doesn't matter because it never happened.... everything fits happily within 1 universe....
The 2 stories about how they met was quite successfully explained and joined together in http://www.macgyveronline.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2494#.V0oou_l96Uk by Loth. (one is a cover story for a classified mission)
In at least 2 season 1 episodes he's seen disliking alcoholic drinks so I don't know how you came to the conclusion that he drinks. We also see him coughing and spluttering as he uses the cigarettes in the pilot episode indicating that he's not used to it. So not sure how you came ot that conclusion either.
I don't know what that means?
Actually that was established in season 1.
based on what?
Again explained by the cover story idea in http://www.macgyveronline.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2494
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with that comment?
Who has a son? And based on what information?
You've mixed about a 3 different things here into one universe.
Citan commercial: based a number of years after the end of the show.. not out of the realms of possibility that he could have met someone and had another child - SAM would be off living his own life by this time too.
archaeology in London: he's always been interested in archaeology (Eye of Osiris, Holy Rose, Treasure of Manco) There's no reason why he couldn't have done these classes after he'd finished travelling through Europe with Mike and Jack in the late 70's after collage. Their travels could have ended in London with them heading back to the U.S. and Mac spending his last year (or couple of years) in the UK.
Including things which never eventuated and were only ever an idea is going a bit too far don't you think?
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 29 May 2016 - 12:12 AM|
| Wishful thinking, trying to gain Followers via Hashtags or is he actually trying to tell us something interesting?
|Posted by: KiwiTek 29 May 2016 - 12:41 AM|
| Looking at his IMDB page... he's a wannabe actor.
He's had minor uncreadited roles in a hand full of known movies and TV shows and that's it so I'd say your first instinct was right... just trying to get attention by using hashtags.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 29 May 2016 - 12:48 AM|
|Just naming your insta account "Mr Hollywood" is pretentious as hell anyway... but who knows - the Location fits; they did shoot some Scenes on that Airport. Maybe he actually had a minor (probably non-speaking) role (e.g. in the audience of the press conference) in the Pilot and hasn't realized yet it's been scrapped?|
|Posted by: KiwiTek 29 May 2016 - 01:18 AM|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 29 May 2016 - 02:06 AM|
| Look, they pushed production to Amsterdam - now I know why you mentioned marijuana being involved
That's just a joke of course by Aaron Kübler who finally found MacGyver's home in the Netherlands via https://www.instagram.com/p/BF_JqrHTOts/
|Posted by: denizen 29 May 2016 - 10:27 AM|
|Posted by: Rocket 30 May 2016 - 02:28 AM|
| I've finally got round to watching the trailer.
You know what?
That actually looks pretty good
|Posted by: KiwiTek 30 May 2016 - 02:36 AM|
Yep it did look good, but there's some things that need to be changed, so hopefully that's what they'll do.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 31 May 2016 - 01:05 PM|
| So.... if you want to play a part in the Reboot Pilot Episode 2.0, now there's your chance via https://twitter.com/zombiecatprod/status/737730328723345408
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 31 May 2016 - 01:23 PM|
| I guess the rumour about production moving to Atlanta seems true then:
|Posted by: denizen 31 May 2016 - 08:19 PM|
|Looks like. Still, this could improve the budget of the show and they can use it for better production values.|
|Posted by: Miasma 1 June 2016 - 07:23 AM|
| Atlanta? Wait a second... this means they're doing a cross-over with The Walking Dead, aren't they? WOOHOO!!!!!! Mac Vs. Zombies!
(just please don't have Mac doing the black-face routine again, like he did in Season 7's "Walking Dead" episode, okay? Thanks.)
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 1 June 2016 - 09:02 AM|
I'm pretty sure they wouldn't dare doing something like that nowadays... At least I hope they don't!
I like Zombie stuff, but I never really liked that episode.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 2 June 2016 - 12:31 PM|
| Don't know what this means (location? acting gig?)... but congrats. Hopefully, we'll find out more.
|Posted by: denizen 2 June 2016 - 08:11 PM|
|Dash, our investigator on the prowl.|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 2 June 2016 - 11:19 PM|
| I'll try, at least!
So many people are using the MacGyver Hashtag, it's sometimes very difficult to differentiate if it's relevant for us or not... On the other hand, Lucas Till fans are not very easy to find. In the Twilight fandom for example, some people know every time one of the stars is stepping outside their house or doing work for a new project. I don't even know what side of the planet Lucas is at the moment, so I don't even know if they've already started preproduction/reshooting.
Interestingly, many people (e.g. the writers) are suddenly very quiet on social media. There probably hard ad work or hiding something
|Posted by: denizen 3 June 2016 - 01:20 AM|
|Well it is all very appreciated!|
|Posted by: KiwiTek 3 June 2016 - 02:18 AM|
| Yes absolutely. Keep up the good work Dash. It's interesting seeing the timeline of posts in here go see how it all unfolded.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 3 June 2016 - 07:01 AM|
|I see the MacGyver Writers on Twitter are now following MacGyver Online. Congrats!|
|Posted by: manueloooord 3 June 2016 - 07:42 AM|
|I did see Peter Lenkov retweeted MacGyver Online's tweet connected to correcting the Department of External Affairs into the Department of External Services, and the retweeted tweet was actually something that said it's the little details that make the difference, if I'm correct? Peter Lenkov retweeted it, saying he agrees.....and now, if you check the official MacGyver 2016 page on the CBS website, you'll see the description of the show already changed the Dept of External Affairs to the Dept of External Services. They seem to really care about the show well to care for the fans.|
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 3 June 2016 - 11:30 AM|
|I still feel this is going to be a reboot. Which I am happy about over all I am still hoping they focus on the espionage elements of the original.|
|Posted by: KiwiTek 3 June 2016 - 02:45 PM|
| I think a continuation using Macs son has a much greater chance of working, but if they are going with the reboot they must remain aware of the original and in both cases they need to make it look and feel like an updated representation of the character we know which is why I think the fans pushed back about his hair. It was just TOO out of place and wrong for that character.
The big problem CBS have is that we know what MacGyver looked like in high school; we know he went to Western Tech university and studied physics and even won the barricade contest in 1973. We have so much history built up from the show, and it's that history and that show that we love, so asking us to either ignore or let that go to start over is a very misguided idea. Yes there are a handful of fans who are willing to play along with that idea, but the majority of fans, it would seem, are not willing to stray from that path which leave the CBS crew with 2 options...
1. Make the reboot fit into the existing universe which isn't actually that hard to do. There are plenty of gaps to be filled or used in the existing history line, but it needs to be THAT history line, not an alternate line.
2. Continue the story using Angus' children. Follow his son as he leaves University and get's drawn into the DXS. This would allow subtitle reference to the original show AND give them creative freedom rather than being confined to the historic timeline of characters and organizations.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 4 June 2016 - 10:09 AM|
| Another confirmation about production moving to Georgia, Atlanta:
Georgia’s film industry is on fire. According to Georgia’s Help Wanted Hotline, CBS is going to film the MacGyver reboot in Atlanta, Georgia. In fact, producers are now hiring crew members to work on the new TV series.
Producers for the MacGyver are currently hiring all crew positions on the new TV series in Atlanta, Georgia. If you are interested in working on the TV series, e-mail your resume to firstname.lastname@example.org. This is for crew work only. DO NOT APPLY FOR AN ACTING JOB.
So I guess if they're not (yet) looking for actors, they haven't started filming...
|Posted by: KiwiTek 4 June 2016 - 02:57 PM|
| I would take that to mean that they will get the actors through the usual agents etc in Hollywood rather than having wannabe's turn up on their doorstep wasting everyone's time.
|Posted by: denizen 5 June 2016 - 08:22 PM|
|RDA was a hippie! I shoulda known!!!|
|Posted by: RDoyletv 6 June 2016 - 11:21 PM|
| I was speaking briefly with the head of acquisitions for a TV station here in Ireland, At this point, I must be very careful not to reveal their identity, or say anything which may have been told to me in the strictest of confidence, but let me try and surmise.
They had been one of the privileged, to be invited recently onto the Paramount lot for the CBS’s international distribution event which unveiled new shows to foreign buyers.
When asked had they seen the 20 minute cut of the MacGyver Pilot. They said, It was one of the main talking points after the event, and was by far the show you went away thinking about. They said that they had been pre-warned in advance, that there would be some reconstructing to certain elements of the show once in production, but they said "It certainly didn't take away from what they watched - it was full on, and kept you interested for the full 20 minutes - and surprisingly... you wished you could see more. "Great chemistry between the lead actors" and they said... "It's really hot property".
They were even more impressed by Peter Lenkov's speech and his general direction for the series, and how it would be current, different, yet having a nice nod to the past."
I can't say much more, but suffice to say... I came away, very happy and impressed with what I heard.
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 7 June 2016 - 08:35 AM|
| Great I am hoping the show does well. Earlier on Kiwi asked about the original timeline versus the new one and in my opinion I think we all have to ask ourselves one question is Macgyver Immortal? And before people say no hear me out Bond was originally a Veteran of world war 2 but as time went on he became a veteran of other conflicts most recently Iraq and Afghanistan. As time moves on characters are changed and adapted to fit the modern world. While I feel this can work with Macgyver (and indeed this is what Lee Ztollff believes as evidence by the comic book and new show) but as fans we have to ask the same question and understand the answer in our own way. I feel even the original show started doing that as well (for example the time travel episodes as well as certain elements of Macs background being altered to show modern views) but for others they feel Macgyver is a product of Regean era America and can only exist there.
I do hope the show is successful and we all can enjoy it
|Posted by: RDoyletv 7 June 2016 - 08:47 AM|
| Well said, Macgyver12186
You should have been a politician, you would have given Trump a run for his money
|Posted by: KiwiTek 7 June 2016 - 01:47 PM|
That's not really saying much though is it.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 7 June 2016 - 02:48 PM|
|Casting seems to be underway. Guess it won't be too long now until they start shooting again...|
|Posted by: RDoyletv 7 June 2016 - 07:21 PM|
| Could this tweet mean Ted Danson is set to be cast in MacGyver (oh, a Villian role...PLEASE !)
Now it could of course, just be a plug for his best friend ... and be something and nothing.
Just thought that I would highlight this.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 8 June 2016 - 09:16 AM|
|Is that your first screenshot?|
|Posted by: Cindy61 8 June 2016 - 12:32 PM|
|I totally despise this MacGyver reboot. it will never be comparable to the original, and NO ONE will ever replace RDA!|
|Posted by: angus20 8 June 2016 - 01:17 PM|
|hi Cindy, I also think like that and believe this may be a similar case as Knight Rider reboot- in which the modern version did not work out well- but I'm optimistic, I'd like to have my Blue Ray versions of the old show- If the new show gets audience we might get it!|
|Posted by: RDoyletv 8 June 2016 - 01:47 PM|
| Cindy61 and Angus20, CBS aren't trying to replace RDA version of the show! It will always live on their channel CBS ACTION, and on DVD etc... for prosperity.
All they wish to do, is bring MACGYVER back, and introduce THE MASTER OF IMPROVISATION, to a new audience, and let his adventures and Macgyverisms live on, and inspire new generations of fans.
This is Lucas Till moment - Yes... he has big shoes to fill, and I for one wish him all the best. I think he deserve that opportunity to at least give it his 100% best shot. I also extend the same curiosity to CBS. This is a new show, and I for one have been most impressed how they have reacted to the original fan comments and concerns. They also seem to be acquiring a dream team behind the scene, some of the best and brightest talent to help make this show as good as possible. Money and resources are plentiful on this project.
MacGyver has Peter Lenkov spearheading this project. He was massively successful in bringing back H5.0, I have only started watching this recently... but what is evident was how he respected the past, and had lovely nod to the original in the overall style of the show. The H 5.0 opening title sequence for example (while updated and modernised) is nearly identical to the original version in so many ways. This has the ability to be as good as the original, and I can only pray and wish them the very best of luck with it.
MacGyver is too good of a character to simple fade away... he deserves to live on... it would be very sad of us all to despise or deny others... and new generations of fans the ability to get to know this great and wonderful character.
It's surely, a win, win for everyone?
|Posted by: KiwiTek 8 June 2016 - 03:40 PM|
| The big problem with Knight Rider was that NBC never wanted to do it. They were talked or forced (can't remember which) into it and almost went out of their way to find a reason to cancel it.
At least with the MacGyver reboot, CBS are hell bent on making it happen and have now pulled together a pretty good team to do it so whether it lives up to the original is yet to been seen, but even if it doesn't, it should at least be an entertaining show to watch.
|Posted by: Miasma 8 June 2016 - 06:16 PM|
I haven't seen it yet, so I really can't say if I despise it or like it. Even the trailer that they made is no longer an accurate depiction of the show, since it's apparently being drastically reworked.
But the way I see it is this: If it turns out to be a good show, that's great, it'll give me something new to watch. If it turns out to be lousy, it'll probably disappear fairly quickly, no harm done. And either way, it's not replacing the original. You can always watch reruns of the original, and it's not as if they had the option to do a new MacGyver series with RDA, and then opted to do this instead.
|Posted by: manueloooord 8 June 2016 - 07:14 PM|
| I guess it's okay for some people to not really like the reboot, because we don't really know much about it yet. Well, we do but it's not like we really know what will happen, right? Basically, we still don't understand some things...and that's why it's great that slowly they're making the fans understand Hopefully, as we get to understand it more, it will eventually turn out well for everyone
But of course, for now, we don't understand some things, and just like what Martha Kent said in Batman v Superman, "People hate what they don't understand" Kidding aside, we should try to keep a positive attitude towards it, tho. I mean, just look at how superheroes thrive today....it wouldn't have happened if they haven't made a presence through their different incarnations and reboots. Just look at how Spider-Man already had 3 reboots since 2002 Superman already had lots of different incarnations. Christopher Reeve has been the benchmark of all Superman performances since he played it well, but new actors have done well, too. This proves that the character must be more important than the actors who played it. We can have our favorite actor who played the character, but I think we should love the character more than the actor.
I guess that's why there's a difference between the RDA forums and here. In the RDA forums, I guess they love RDA more than MacGyver and thus they close their minds for the reboot. Here, the vibe is a little more positive, with the negativity more on our thinking that it may not give respect to the original than us thinking that no one can ever play MacGyver again, Just an opinion
|Posted by: Cindy61 8 June 2016 - 08:05 PM|
| Sorry you all. maybe i shouldn't have said 'despise.' i have watched the trailer, and IMHO the guy they picked for the show doesn't fit. he looks and acts mean. which is nothing comparable to the original. But like RDoyletv said, the new audience can watch it and be inspired by it. i'm really sorry if i upset some of you.
|Posted by: KiwiTek 8 June 2016 - 08:13 PM|
| Don't worry about it Cindy.
We're all here to give our opinions and discuss things. If we all agreed on everything this place would be pretty boring.
|Posted by: denizen 8 June 2016 - 08:56 PM|
| I tend to agree. As it was, the new show originally presented its own concerns, however with all the recent changes and updates, things are starting to look more promising.
Lucas Till is a young and new actor. He needs time to evolve. I have seen him in a few things so far and he is starting to grow on me. I just saw him in X-Men Apocalypse last week and my first reaction was, "Oh, there's MacGyver" not even realising i just thought it.
I suspect the re-shoot will give slight changes to his personality. We will have to see.
|Posted by: KiwiTek 8 June 2016 - 09:11 PM|
I hope so because the sure of himself attitude we saw in the teaser would get old real quick for me.
That "and the crowd goes wild" scene really drove the nail into the coffin for me. So yeah, I'm hoping that changes.
|Posted by: RDoyletv 8 June 2016 - 09:33 PM|
| No worries Cindy,
I suppose it hard to get a real sense of Lucas Till's portrayal of the characters in a 1.47, worth of a promo. And there has been a lot of reconstructing of the character since that pilot. So let's hope they've spotted your concerns.
Remember actors are quite versatile, they need to be able to adapt to different characters and protray many different roles over their lifetime. Be under no illusion, I'm sure a detailed post mortem was done after shooting that pilot. With Lucas, probably been given a list (as long as your arm) of things to work on, and refine before he's back on set ready to film for the new series. If he wants the job badly enough, he will be eager to work on those problem areas...getting them right, so as to please everyone.
I heard recently from someone (media buyer) who watched the full 20min version, and they couldn't praise it highly enough. People couldn't stop looking at their watches waiting for the promo for the comedy "Kevin Can Wait" to finish. But their was a huge difference and contrast when MacGyver was played, with all eyes glued to the screen, you could hear a pin drop. The reconstructing comments didn't phase the TV buyers either, in fact it reassured most, that the series would be hot property on their tv schedules.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 8 June 2016 - 09:39 PM|
...and the text of the song ("I'm the baddest mother(...) of the year")... I was like "uhm, WHAT? Who got to chose the music for this trailer???"
|Posted by: KiwiTek 8 June 2016 - 10:02 PM|
| yes completely off the track for MacGyver!
but hopefully those things will be fixed.
|Posted by: RDoyletv 8 June 2016 - 10:24 PM|
| That soundtrack was also used in the promo for the new Letal Weapon TV show.
Did anyone else spot this? ...and I wonder who copied who?
|Posted by: KiwiTek 8 June 2016 - 10:57 PM|
Is it? That line's not used and it doesn't sound the same to me.
|Posted by: RDoyletv 9 June 2016 - 04:03 AM|
| No sorry for the confusion, that exact line isn't used correct - but the same song is.
It happens towards the end of the Lethal Weapon Promo,
At the point - one of the main actors jumps on the top of the roof of the speeding car. You can clearly hear the same song used.
..."I'm dangerous" - Same song definitely !
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 9 June 2016 - 05:38 AM|
|Shrugs the trailer was fine for me because like I said the character of Macgyver was pretty fully fledged by season 2 and completely unchanged while that is fine I want to know how he got to that point... I don't mind Macgyver Begins at all but CBS seems to be changing things which is fine too if Lucas till plays a more fully fledged Mac I am ok with that too.|
|Posted by: Jediferret 9 June 2016 - 07:07 AM|
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who caught that. lol
It was a minor detail, but sometimes minor details are important. It can give an overall feel of the show's attitude. Part of the reason I'm still on the fence. To me, the attitude is what's important here. What made MacGyver different was because he had a good attitude and a genuine concern for others... he may have been sure of himself, but he wasn't pretentious. Since we're dealing with a younger version, we should probably expect his character to be a little more cocky. But, as long as his true nature isn't lost completely, I can ignore the smaller details.
Sometimes I feel like I'm repeating myself... am I repeating myself?? XD
|Posted by: perfectlykevin 9 June 2016 - 08:23 AM|
Hopefully that choice of song lyrics and other things, which are true to the core of the character, will become more consistent with the Macgyver we know. We can look back on these things like we do Mac shooting a rifle in the original pilot so many years ago
|Posted by: RDoyletv 9 June 2016 - 08:42 AM|
| Totally agree,
I suppose we must be mindful of the fact that Peter Lenkov and his team will want to experiment as much as possible with the character, in the first season and then refine the character over time. Personally I don't wish to see Lucas mimic RDA's version of the character, I want him to be himself and Bring his own uniqueness to the role.
I do hope that they will be bold, brave and daring with the character and the story arc/direction for the series. Mac 1.0 was always a bit one dimensional for my liking and some episodes weak on macgyverisms. I'd love for them to explore and test the character to his limits. Such as, for example how Jack Bauer's character was tested with his drug problem in 24. It makes the character more human, relatable etc, when they push boundaries and challenge the character, and remove them from their comfort zone.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 9 June 2016 - 08:53 AM|
| In my experience, most trailer music has nothing to do with the movie itself; also it's often music bought off someone who only composes trailer music which means some movies have the same trailer soundtrack. That's why I haven't commented yet on it.
But I think for this reboot it's quite necessary to be aware of this stuff, because there are plenty other action shows out there. There are much more shows to choose from and ways to watch them. Also, since the original MacGyver show, lots of other shows implemented characters who use something like MacGyverisms. The interesting hero using interesting ways to get out of trouble or solve cases isn't a new concept anymore. But the character of someone like MacGyver is still quite special. I believe that if they want to reel in a new audience in, they have to show in these 2 or 3 minutes of trailers and promo reels what exactly makes him special. Why would they tune in for this show exactly?
I don't think this first trailer cuts to the point and the soundtrack is totally misleading who MacGyver really is. Yes, of course he's a badass (I would use a different word, but it fits for a young audience). But the point is he would never call himself that.
|Posted by: Miasma 9 June 2016 - 12:10 PM|
Hmm. I thought that line seemed very much like something Mac would have said. I could definitely see RDA saying it. The fact that it's a sports reference helps, too, since Mac is into hockey, and a line like "And the crowd goes wild" would be something that's very much part of his lexicon.
The line that bothered me was the very last line of the trailer, when he asked if anybody had a Q-Tip and some bubble gum. It was a bit too cutesy and too much of a "wink, wink, look at me, I'm the guy who makes stuff out of nothing!" The smug smile when he said it made it even worse.
|Posted by: denizen 9 June 2016 - 08:07 PM|
|I can also hear MacGyver say that. The song & his slightly inflatable head was the only thing i found anti-Mac.|
|Posted by: RDoyletv 10 June 2016 - 02:24 AM|
| I've just spotted this, posted on IMDB in the trivia section.
The new MacGyver series follows the son of the original series protagonist, Angus MacGyver. As opposed to recreating the old character as brand new.
I must say, I'm much happier with this as the starting point for the new series, and I'm sure RDA fan are rejoicing also. It means the two shows are connected, but completely separate entities in their own right.
I've also come across this post from one of the writers - glad to hear that they are working hard.
|Posted by: perfectlykevin 10 June 2016 - 10:33 AM|
Mac said exactly this at the end of one episode. He was playing the hockey game in his loft/apartment/whatever. He then did a breath to make it sound like the crowd, a large crowd, was chearing. It was said in playfulness and I remember because my son, who was about 7 or 8 at the time, and I both cracked up.
|Posted by: angus20 10 June 2016 - 12:46 PM|
|"the son of the original series protagonist" is this true? if so wouldn't be a reboot then....|
|Posted by: RDoyletv 10 June 2016 - 12:49 PM|
| Technically, it would be a reboot of the TV series called MacGyver, and not a reboot of the actual character from the original. It similar in style to how they brought back Star Wars? Almost a like a continuation.
Was never a huge fan of the original Star Wars, but absolutely loved episode 7.
And loved how they updated the show but kept it true to the original in so many ways. Brilliantly executed!
I trust Peter Lenkov will have the courtesy and the foresight, to treat this new MacGyver series, with the same respect.
|Posted by: Miasma 10 June 2016 - 12:54 PM|
IMDB isn't always entirely reliable, but if it's true, I'm fine with it. It certainly will help alleviate some of the complaints like "He doesn't look like MacGyver!" "MacGyver would never say that!" "RDA played the role so much better!", etc, etc. It also opens the door to a possible cameo by RDA as his dad, although RDA did say in New Zealand that he would probably turn down an offer to be on this show.
|Posted by: RDoyletv 10 June 2016 - 12:58 PM|
| Agreed, this is the best direction for the show. It introduces Lucas Till without, alienating fans of the original show. And makes the two shows completely separate entities.
I do hope they leave the door open for an RDA appearance. If the money is right, RDA will do it. He wouldn't let his fans down, guaranteed !
|Posted by: Miasma 10 June 2016 - 06:31 PM|
I don't know. He said they never asked him to be a part of it, and then he said, "And that's good, since it saved me from the awkwardness of having to tell them no."
But I don't think it would be just about the money. More important, I think, is what they want his cameo to be like. He has said several times that he'd have fun playing an older, creakier MacGyver, with back pain, sore limbs, etc. I think if they come up with a fun role like that for him, then yeah, he might stop by for an episode or two. He seems to just be opposed to the idea of playing Mac as if he's still a spry young 35 year old guy.
Another thought just occurred to me: If this new MacGyver is really Mac's son, and not a re-imagining of the original Mac, that opens the door for other old cast members to come back. Imagine how much fun it would be to see Bruce McGill as an older Jack Dalton, roping Mac's son into some crazy scheme! I know it's extremely unlikely, but it's possible.
|Posted by: Cindy61 10 June 2016 - 07:52 PM|
Now that would be fun. i loved his role in the original MacGyver.
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 13 June 2016 - 04:54 AM|
|I still don't get the son angle if that is indeed what they are going for considering he hated the name Angus... The WB show solved this by having an equally terrible first name Clay but meh|
|Posted by: angus20 14 June 2016 - 07:54 AM|
| that's exactly what would make the new show great at least from fan's perspective, having old cast members at least short appearances and if possible RDA....
As it was mentioned before, Star Wars 7 had the original members of the previous movies, it was a commercial success even though the story wasn't good enough!
|Posted by: perfectlykevin 14 June 2016 - 11:40 AM|
|Quick question...With al the retooling going on, reshooting the pilot and such, will the new pilot be bumped back date-wise?|
|Posted by: RDoyletv 14 June 2016 - 12:56 PM|
| I wouldn't think so.
CBS has a schedule to fill, and they won't be able to deviate from that - hence why CBS executives have drafted in show runner Peter Lenkov to make sure, all will go to plan.
Expect new character announcements imminently, and I reckon it will follow a similar theme... (Wilt Bozer etc), characters we will be familiar to use.
Me thinks, They will be starting filming during the first week of July. H.50 should be kicking off season 7, around the same time.
They are probably going through script run throughs and final cast sessions, in advance of principal photography.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 15 June 2016 - 09:11 AM|
| Hm... seems they start filming in 3 weeks? Sounds reasonable to me...
|Posted by: RDoyletv 15 June 2016 - 09:22 AM|
| Nice detective work, Dash.
I had predicted that they would begin filming the first week in July. Guess I was right!
I've just spotted a tweet by Justin Hires - were he says a great article about my casting. Unfortunately, it will not open because I am outside the U.S.A
Perhaps you may have a MacGyverism to by-pass security, and get into the main-frame of this web-page?
Go for it Dash, or should I call you MacGoogle?
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 15 June 2016 - 09:30 AM|
Tried that article, too and couldn't open it. I haven't tried anything else; I figured there are enough fans in this forum that at least one of them will succeed in bringing the article in here without us having to "MacGoogle" something
|Posted by: themacgyverproject 15 June 2016 - 10:26 AM|
| Any theories as to why they're filming in Atlanta rather than LA? Some possibilities:
--Atlanta has something in the way of outdoor remotes that work better for the plot
--the story will take place in Atlanta (that would take some getting used to)
|Posted by: KiwiTek 15 June 2016 - 01:01 PM|
A lot of shows are filming there now. It's become known as the Hollywood of the South.
|Posted by: manueloooord 15 June 2016 - 06:21 PM|
| Lucas Till looks very MacGyver-like in this still from his movie called 'Monster Trucks' You could imagine him as MacGyver doing a MacGyverism with the machine he's tinkering with
I hope they keep the hair similar to this, or his hair from the recent CBS soiree. I like those quite better than the one from the trailer, coz it makes him look more mature but still young and fresh to look at
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 21 June 2016 - 08:12 AM|
| This is from Peter Wallack. He played the stunt double for Lucas Till in the Unaired Pilot. I'm not sure if Peter will also be involved in the reshoot, but he sure seems to be a MacGyver fan
Wonder where he got that painting from?
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 21 June 2016 - 08:23 AM|
|I fear this confirms the sequel rumor that is going around on these boards dam...|
|Posted by: perfectlykevin 21 June 2016 - 09:30 AM|
I don't think so. They've named one of main characters Jack Dalton, and they're forming the Phoenix Foundation. I'm taking these as the show will be an alternate universe kinda thing. Crossing fingers! I don't want that tired story line of "Son of Macgyver" or "Son of Godzilla" etc, etc, etc... I'd prefer a fresh start, not tied to history, just tied to the spirit of the characters.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 21 June 2016 - 10:41 AM|
| No article ever mentions the words "prequel" anymore (like they used to in the beginning) - like CBS, they're always talking about a "reimagination".
So I think it was intended to be a prequel at first and probably still was when Colaizzo wrote the script for the unaired pilot; but I guess they changed the concept.
|Posted by: denizen 21 June 2016 - 08:41 PM|
|This will be a reboot. No sequel.|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 4 July 2016 - 03:34 AM|
| Scott Klein was involved in the unaired Pilot. I finally found his FB Profile and look what his last entry was via https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009417485073&fref=ts
makes me wonder what else we have missed while they were shooting; they must have put dozens of Pictures on social media that we never found...
|Posted by: RDoyletv 4 July 2016 - 03:41 AM|
| They begin filming both MacGyver and Hawaii Five-0 on the 7th July,
I wish them the best of luck, but I wish to refrain from seeing any spoilers until the ep airs in September.
To avoid all pics and spoilers... will be the real challenge!
Best of luck with your detective work Dash!
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 4 July 2016 - 03:52 AM|
| I thought about putting everything concerning the unaired Pilot in here since it's not really spoilerish anymore (it's not likely we ever get to see it); everything for the Pilot Episode 2.0. should get a new place, no?
On the Twilight forums during the Twilight filming days, we used to open a special "Spoiler Thread"- so People could peruse the other threads without fear of being spoilered by pics, sightings and discussions and don't need to stay away...
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 15 January 2017 - 10:25 PM|
| I just found this one via Twitter... the caption says "Me and the #LucasTill on the set of Macgyver...The Young Bull got crazy talent". Considering the hair, this one must be from the unaired pilot set?
Otherwise it's a crazy flashback scene we never got to see so far
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 6 March 2017 - 03:30 PM|
| Old/New Location Shot (seen in the trailer and in one of the official stills). Jeremy Schonwald also worked on the reboot, but he posted the picture in December. I don't know if it was a location scouting shot or if he went back for another project.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 6 March 2017 - 04:14 PM|
New/Old pic of Lucas with his Stuntman Peter Wallack; posted in August 2016: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157170448120368&set=pb.600530367.-2207520000.1488845413.&type=3&theater
(the original link has been deleted)
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 8 March 2017 - 01:16 PM|
| OMG. That's kinda embarassing now. Bwahahahahaha
Remember when I found that video of them filming in the hangar? And us discussing if the guy in red is actually Lucas in character or just his stand-in?
Turns out Lucas was there. The whole time. And nobody ever saw him.
Just realized it now sorting trough all the Unaired Pilot Stuff ...
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 8 March 2017 - 03:36 PM|
| Rest of the pictures is also up on Facebook now. That's 55 pictures in total in one neat little place.
I also made some screenshots of the trailer to go with.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 9 March 2017 - 04:17 PM|
|Another New/Old Picture with Lucas and James Wan: https://www.instagram.com/p/BRbVBHjDZ4K/|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 27 August 2017 - 07:03 AM|
| Not sure if I ever posted this somewhere and I'm too lazy to go look for it
This is the Music they used for the Unaired Pilot Trailer:
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 6 April 2018 - 03:05 PM|
| Clint Buckner posted a little throwback to the pilot - but since he worked on the Unaired Pilot as far as I know, I'm pretty sure he meant that one.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 4 May 2018 - 01:13 PM|
|Unaired Pilot script title page via Clint Buckner: https://www.instagram.com/p/BiXN-Trlw6l/|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 1 July 2018 - 12:41 PM|
| New/Old photo of Lucas and George in character (as MacGyver and Lincoln). Lucky find today while looking for something else
Source: Eileen Cox Baker's website (Costume Design)