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3.21 - Treason + Heartbreak + Gum

Airdate: May 3, 2019
Writer: Nancy Kiu & Lindsey Allen
Director: Stephen Herek

Recurring Cast: Levy Tran (Desi) , Tate Donovan (Oversight)

Guest Cast: Brendan Hines (Ethan Reigns) , Sissi Kal (Deena) , Mina Lukia (Mara) , Lance Gross (Billy)
Sheryl Lee Ralph (Mama Colton) , Zane Stephens (Ryan Hayes) , George Tchortov (August Krieger)
Diana Chiritescu (Ava Malone) , Adam Minarovich (Kosta) , Joseph Steven Yang (Director Huang) , Mahdi Cocci (Agent)
Moses Das (Attache) , Chazz Mangusta (Cashier) , Jeff Bachar (Sommelier) , Marissa Chanel Hampton (Phoenix Tech)
James Sosa, Jr. (S-Company Tech) , Justin Torrence (Brad)


Mattys ex-husband, Ethan, asks her for help when S-Company, kidnaps his wife and daughter, forcing Matty to decide if shes willing to commit treason in order to help save his family. Also, Riley makes a heartbreaking discovery when she joins Billy Colton and Mama Colton on a mission to Paris.




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ooo, Can't wait

 
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I hope we are done with the Ethan storyline. How many times can they trot this guy out? For super spies they did a lousy job of witness protection.

and I prefer one story. Not looking forward to Riley/ Billy arc.

I guess the sneak peeks for me are disappointing. 5 seconds of Mac. To be fair, i just am not a fan of Nancy Kiu's writing.

 
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QUOTE (BabyEinstein @ 3 May 2019 - 09:01 AM)
I hope we are done with the Ethan storyline. How many times can they trot this guy out? For super spies they did a lousy job of witness protection.

and I prefer one story. Not looking forward to Riley/ Billy arc.

I guess the sneak peeks for me are disappointing. 5 seconds of Mac. To be fair, i just am not a fan of Nancy Kiu's writing.

I agree, I'm so tired of Ethan dry.gif

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A well acted episode but too little Mac. Love how he comforted Riley and his support of Matty. I understand that other characters have stories but the show is "MacGyver" so he should have more than 10 minutes screen time. tongue.gif

 
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I did like the mac/Riley scene at the end. And Matty/Oversight. And the fact that Riley mentioned how much she misses Jack.

I wish Riley had actually told Billy why she decided to break up with him. Call him out, see his response. He didn't really seem too upset. Surprised, yes. Saddened and hurt, yes. Devastated, no. Like he's thinking, "On the bright side, I can just focus on [insert girl's name here]".

I do feel kinda bad that Ethan had to get arrested. He just wants his family sad.gif And yes, of course I understand why. But he focuses so much on his family, I just hate to think they have to be separated. Think they'll be allowed to visit him? Or is that restricted, given the crime?

I still don't like him, of course tongue.gif

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Yayyyy no more Biley lolll

I feel like he'll figure it out. LOL it's funny how Riley and Tristin's life mirror lol, her IRL ex-boyfriend plays for a European league, so with their schedules they only saw each other like twice a year, just like Riley & Billy lol. I knew that wasn't gonna work.

I like Mac comforting her. And I like every showing real emotion in these last couple episodes.

Now if CBS can stop having them waiting in vain for their love and give the green light for a next season.

 
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QUOTE (Dragondog @ 4 May 2019 - 06:06 AM)
I wish Riley had actually told Billy why she decided to break up with him. Call him out, see his response. He didn't really seem too upset. Surprised, yes. Saddened and hurt, yes. Devastated, no.

I think confronting Billy would have been a good decision. But I felt the behavior fits Riley well. She rarely opens up about her feelings - she did and got hurt. It makes sense to me that she would shut down; trying to forget about it and pretend it never happened.

But I think cheating AND stupidly leaving a trace of it on his cell-phone (while dating one of the best hackers) was very out of character for Billy. The way he was raised by Mama and born into a family of confident and independent women; the way he treated Riley in other episodes and tried to find her grandmother... Also his reaction... I don't know. I thought it was weird.

Wouldn't he have immediately realized Riley knew about it since she didn't act "weird" when they started the mission? If he had cheated, wouldn't he have felt at least a bit guilty or embarassed about getting caught? And worried about Mama's reaction if she got wind of it?

On the other hand, it's possible it turns out he didn't cheat and it was only a cover for another job. That way, they could bring him back next season.


Generally, I feel like they're burning through all the recurring guest stars really fast.
> Helman: prison
> Murdoc: prison
> Ethan: prison
> Leanna: disappeared
> Billy: byebye, therefore probably also the other Coltons.
> Charlie: might die in the Season Finale, so maybe byebye as well.
> James/Oversight: might die of cancer or while giving his life to save Mac as the ultimate redemption

No one will be available in S4 blink.gif .

If they want to bring Helman, Murdoc or Ethan back, they would have either to break out of prison or get released early (which shouldn't happen, considering the crimes).

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I can't stand the fact that Matty was willing to commit treason to help her EX husband save his family. Even if she did eventually spin it so it all worked out. Also, you think if she was able to do all of that she could have gotten Ethan to avoid prison?

Personally I would love for less Matty focused stories. Never really cared too much for her.


 
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QUOTE (Roaddawg71 @ 4 May 2019 - 09:15 PM)
Personally I would love for less Matty focused stories. Never really cared too much for her.

I don't mind a Matty-focused episode every once in a while. But the Ethan storyline does nothing to develop her character and two Ethan-episodes within half a season was just too much.

They shouldn't have brought him back so soon or better not at all. I think there's more interesting stories to tell. Also, the main lead that the show is named after didn't even show up until after the first commercial break. I thought that was weird. Again, they packed too many storylines and personal tragedies into a single episode.

Also, I think it's a pity that Season 3 doesn't have an underlying story-arc. The big bad behind the S1 finale (the Organization) were never heard of again. All the build-up of Oversight and his ex-best-friend-now-enemy in the S2 finale is just forgotten. Now they bring in another big bad for the S3 finale.

I don't get why they burn through the recurring characters so fast and introducing new villains just for one episode when they never use them again. They could have brought back the Ghost for 3x22 if they hadn't killed him off; why bring in a new bomb-maker we haven't even heard of yet...

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Also, the main lead that the show is named after didn't even show up until after the first commercial break. I thought that was weird. Again, they packed too many storylines and personal tragedies into a single episode.


That's Nancy Kiu. This isn't the first time I've questioned whether she knows what show she writes for. I see her name and inwardly groan.

I also think the Ethan story ended nicely with witness protection. That should have been it. I guess this allows for the end of S company. I am grateful at least they didn't use this as the season finale.

 
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I think the answer to that question lies in the obvious lack of experience and leadership in the writing room.

If you look at the writers credits, non of them have much, if any, prior experience in writing and it's pretty obvious there's no mentoring or leadership going on there anymore.






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I don't really mind that the Ghost is gone, and exchanged for a new bomb-maker. But I agree with the other comments about unused storylines. What about Walsh? Or the Organization? Or PATRICIA for crying out loud?!

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I think Walsh should have been explored. I know they took care of the cartel leader.

I also think Lenkov's main concern is his Hawaii shows. MacGyver is left adrift. I don't bother with Lenkov's twitter anymore because he rarely if ever mentions MacGyver. He should provide that leadership.

 
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QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 4 May 2019 - 09:56 AM)
QUOTE (Dragondog @ 4 May 2019 - 06:06 AM)
I wish Riley had actually told Billy why she decided to break up with him. Call him out, see his response. He didn't really seem too upset. Surprised, yes. Saddened and hurt, yes. Devastated, no.

I think confronting Billy would have been a good decision. But I felt the behavior fits Riley well. She rarely opens up about her feelings - she did and got hurt. It makes sense to me that she would shut down; trying to forget about it and pretend it never happened.

But I think cheating AND stupidly leaving a trace of it on his cell-phone (while dating one of the best hackers) was very out of character for Billy. The way he was raised by Mama and born into a family of confident and independent women; the way he treated Riley in other episodes and tried to find her grandmother... Also his reaction... I don't know. I thought it was weird.

Wouldn't he have immediately realized Riley knew about it since she didn't act "weird" when they started the mission? If he had cheated, wouldn't he have felt at least a bit guilty or embarassed about getting caught? And worried about Mama's reaction if she got wind of it?

On the other hand, it's possible it turns out he didn't cheat and it was only a cover for another job. That way, they could bring him back next season.


Generally, I feel like they're burning through all the recurring guest stars really fast.
> Helman: prison
> Murdoc: prison
> Ethan: prison
> Leanna: disappeared
> Billy: byebye, therefore probably also the other Coltons.
> Charlie: might die in the Season Finale, so maybe byebye as well.
> James/Oversight: might die of cancer or while giving his life to save Mac as the ultimate redemption

No one will be available in S4 blink.gif .

If they want to bring Helman, Murdoc or Ethan back, they would have either to break out of prison or get released early (which shouldn't happen, considering the crimes).

> Sparky: Electronically fried for being nosey

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Is it just me or were you worried Riley wasn't in her normal self while driving after the phone thing....looked like she was about to off herself around the wheel

 
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QUOTE (real_ness @ 5 May 2019 - 08:14 PM)
Is it just me or were you worried Riley wasn't in her normal self while driving after the phone thing....looked like she was about to off herself around the wheel

Of course she wasn't her normal self. She just found out her boyfriend has been cheating on her.

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QUOTE (BabyEinstein @ 5 May 2019 - 02:47 AM)
I think Walsh should have been explored. I know they took care of the cartel leader.

honestly, before the press release for 3x22, I was totally convinced Walsh will be the big bad for the S3 finale. I assumed that's why they kept the storyline in "storage"; especially after revealing James having cancer.

I assumed that's why James - despite undergoing therapy - is still working as Oversight instead of taking time off to spend it with Mac. Because that's the last work-related thing he wants to accomplish before it's too late - catch Walsh. This makes no sense to me...

It's as half-baked as Jack going off to catch a baddie that hasn't ever been mentioned before... instead of making a villain up that the audience could actually relate to; e.g. something connected to Cairo or one of his Delta buddies getting killed and Jack trying to enact revenge blink.gif

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Have to agree with those who say there was a little too much Ethan in the back half of this season. Probably could have condensed his last two appearances. Hopefully this is the end of that thread.

That being said, I enjoyed both storylines this week.

I would agree that the biggest missing aspect of this season is an underlying story for Mac. I guess you have the Mac Sr. cancer diagnosis, but...well, I guess we'll see how that plays out.

Thought Tristin was really good again in this one...some hope for the MacRiley shippers after all... biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (MacGyverOnline @ 5 May 2019 - 05:29 AM)
QUOTE (real_ness @ 5 May 2019 - 08:14 PM)
Is it just me or were you worried Riley wasn't in her normal self while driving after the phone thing....looked like she was about to off herself around the wheel

Of course she wasn't her normal self. She just found out her boyfriend has been cheating on her.

Not sure what "off herself around the wheel" means. unsure.gif

I meant like she'd not care if she crashed...which is different from her normal meticulous self

 
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As sad as it was to see Riley upset, I loved the interaction between her and MacGyver (the whole part about crying and burning things.)

Also I've been catching up on this season so I actually finally saw this today.

 
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Not sure why it took them so long, but we finally have a final ratings table in pretty colors: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/show...s-5-3-2019.html

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