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Posted by: MacGyverOnline 20 March 2007 - 01:56 PM
When Mac is opening the safe he tells the bird "It's an octave too high." He then drinks some of the wine out of the glass. This would actually make it an even higher octave, rather than lower.

Posted by: Astra 20 March 2007 - 02:06 PM
Yeah, I always said that, but nobody believed me! And just last week I found an article in the newspaper about the physics institute of the university of Oldenburg that had investigated and confirmed it.

Now I have a proof in ink on paper that I'm right laugh.gif

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 21 March 2007 - 10:27 PM
When MacGyver puts the first end of the plastic tube into the light beam alarm in Catlins office, wouldn't that have broken the beam of light and set off the alarm?

He spends a good 5 second or so farting around bending the tube until he can get the other end into the hole to rejoin the light source...

Posted by: MacNymph 22 March 2007 - 10:49 AM
biggrin.gif Hee hee hee hee... he said "farting".

Oop huh.gif Sorry! blush.gif

Yeah, you're right Rock. That whole penthouse seen was full of unbelievability. smile.gif

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 22 March 2007 - 01:22 PM
In that scene with the wine glasses, if you listen to the second? glass (the one before the glass he drinks from) you'll hear that they have done that one backwards as well.. he adds more drink into the glass to make the pitch go up.

I can't figure out if they did the whole scene like that on purpose, or if they genuinely just got it wrong and someone wasn't thinking straight.

Makes you wonder if RDA was actually able to get any sound from those glasses as they where filming the scene.. surely if he was they would have noticed that the sounds where going the wrong way for what they wanted?

Posted by: geomancer 6 January 2008 - 05:07 AM
Just a little one: when Mac is leaving the casino, and escapes in the motorcycle, when he is going down in the small hill (18:00), it clearly is a stunt double ... Just after he gets on the bike, there is a cut in the scene, and you can see MacGyver again..

I am realizing that RDA uses a lot of stunt doubling in the series, even in a easy shot like the one as I mention...

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 6 January 2008 - 01:35 PM
Actually he didn't use stunt doubles very much, because he enjoyed doing the stunts himself.

It looks pretty much like him to me. you sure it's not him?

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Posted by: geomancer 6 January 2008 - 03:35 PM
His hair looks shorter, and we can look his face too much, but I am pretty sure that is a stunt.. Also the scene cuts, and I don't see why to cut if is RDA..

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 6 January 2008 - 03:52 PM
well like I said RDA did a lot of his own stunts.. and running down a small hill normally wouldn't require a stunt double, so if it is a stunt-man, it would be interesting to know why they had to use him.

The scene cut from wide angle to tight face shot seems like just standard practice to me... we see whats going on then move in to see what they are saying.

Or they may have cut the scene to edit two different takes together to remove a goof by one of the actors.

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Posted by: jknnej 27 January 2008 - 03:39 PM
I will have to go back and check but I think I remember watching it and thinking, that's not an octave, it's a fifth, or some other interval.
What he should have said is it's IN the wrong octave, if you want to get musically technical. Assuming he would know, of course.

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 27 January 2008 - 05:08 PM
QUOTE (jknnej @ 28 January 2008 - 12:39 PM)
I will have to go back and check but I think I remember watching it and thinking, that's not an octave, it's a fifth, or some other interval.
What he should have said is it's IN the wrong octave, if you want to get musically technical. Assuming he would know, of course.

To what are you referring?

Posted by: jknnej 28 January 2008 - 02:56 PM
Musically there are many different intervals that refer to the distance between notes. On octave is just one of them, signifying notes that are exactly 12 half steps apart (i.e., in a A scale, the scale starts on A and ends on A an octave higher).
That is a very specific interval, but there are tons of other intervals.
If I remember correctly, the interval between the two pitches was not an octave, it was another musical interval. When he said it was an octave too high, that doesn't make sense. Only someone trained in music would know this, but what he said is nonsense.
Now, sometimes notes that are around the same pitch frequency are termed as being in the same octave because they are within those 12 notes discussed above. So, if that's what he meant to refer to, he should have said, "that pitch is IN the wrong octave." That would mean that the note he played was either too high or too low by at least an octave and that would be the correct way to term it. To say "it's an octave too high" means it is exactly 12 half steps apart, which it wasn't.
Sorry to be so convoluted. It's hard to explain on an email!! I also get mad when people say Mariah Carey has an eight octave voice; if that was the case she could sing every note on the piano, which no human has ever done in history before. In reality she has about a 4 1/2 octave voice, impressive for a female, but not at all abnormal in "real" music circles. Sorry to be a snob for a minute there!!!

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 28 January 2008 - 05:47 PM
If only Mariah Carey had a voice worth the effort... or is that songs worth singing?

Anyway...

Octave is probably the only musical term the writer knew laugh.gif

Posted by: jknnej 28 January 2008 - 09:07 PM
Yeah, that's what I figured, too. It was still a great scene. I'll be they knew taking they were doing the MacGyverism incorrectly but thought it would look cooler the way they shot it.
Yeah, too bad Mariah Carey doesn't use her voice for anything good LOL. I really can't stand listening to her shriek, no matter how many octaves she can sing!

Posted by: Photonalpha 18 August 2008 - 07:58 AM
When we see the "security camera room" the first time, we see that the monitor MacGyver is going to place a mirror on, is already getting an image of its own reflection; the second time when it is pointed out that there is "some kind of interference" the exact same image is there. But, the third time we see the monitor it is of a normal hallway.

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 9 October 2008 - 12:44 AM
As the car drives out of the back of the plane, You can clearly see a camera mounted on the dash of the car.

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Posted by: Astra 20 January 2009 - 08:26 AM
When Catlin leaves the tresor room the doors of the tresor are still open, yet when MacGyver opens it, they open again. Did they close automatically?

Posted by: Beachbead 29 April 2009 - 08:58 AM
No legitimate casino, much less a crooked one as presented here, would permit someone to make six straight passes, rolling the exact same numbers. The croupier would switch dice after three, maybe four passes at most.

Posted by: Scwilson 30 July 2013 - 06:25 PM
jeep.gif I noticed that also about the flying scenes. The Virgin Islands are not that large and have tropical vegetation on them. I made plenty of visits to the Carribean in my days in the Navy.

Posted by: KiwiTek 25 October 2013 - 08:24 PM
In the scene where MacGyver is detaching the mirror from the security camera as the security guy is approaching, the camera is visible along the full length of the corridor, so the security guy would have easily seen the mirror being pulled off the camera as he walked along the corridor towards it.


Posted by: MiracleMac 26 December 2013 - 02:16 AM
The last scene where red MG is falling from plane is actually taken from Dar Robinson's stunt video. I didn't found separate video from internet about this stunt but you can see the clip end of this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgoJafeKo3w

also one photo:
http://www.the-rocketman.com/dar/Dar-MG-crash.jpg

Posted by: KiwiTek 26 December 2013 - 04:58 AM
QUOTE (MiracleMac @ 26 December 2013 - 11:16 PM)
The last scene where red MG is falling from plane is actually taken from Dar Robinson's stunt video. I didn't found separate video from internet about this stunt but you can see the clip end of this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgoJafeKo3w

also one photo:
http://www.the-rocketman.com/dar/Dar-MG-crash.jpg

The stunt wasn't taken from that video. They filmed the stunt for MacGyver, but show it in this video because the video is about the stunts and the people who perform them.

If you go to http://youtu.be/lgoJafeKo3w?t=13m41s they talk about and show the horse pickup scene from the opening gambit of Thief of Budapest.

That picture you linked to has no identification to link it to that stunt and I can't see how it is related because we see the car land safely on the ground with stuntman still at the wheel at the end of the video.


Posted by: MiracleMac 26 December 2013 - 08:31 AM
Found a Notes and Trivia article which was about this episode and it says:

In the finale MacGyver drops parachutes out of the back of a plane in a MG, James Bond pulls off the same feat in Die Another Day.
The footage of the MG dropping out of the airplane was from a MG Car Co. advertising campaign. On the first drop the parachute did not work and the MG pancaked into the ground. On the second drop, the parachute worked but the oil pan was broken.

Posted by: KiwiTek 26 December 2013 - 04:32 PM
Cool. :-)

Can you link to the notes please. I'll add it to the episode trivia.


Posted by: MiracleMac 27 December 2013 - 01:33 PM
http://macgyver.wikia.com/wiki/The_Heist

almost down of the page smile.gif

Posted by: batman11223 25 January 2014 - 08:35 PM
During the scene where mac grabs a long tube to get past the laser sensors, it shows him holding it in one scene, then immediately cuts off and shows him holding a much longer tube that he actually uses for that MacGyverism.

Posted by: MACGYVERISMYDAD 29 August 2014 - 07:55 AM
QUOTE (Astra @ 20 January 2009 - 08:26 AM)
When Catlin leaves the tresor room the doors of the tresor are still open, yet when MacGyver opens it, they open again. Did they close automatically?

I always figured they shut automatically once the large door is locked. I can't see how he could forget to shut them. Something kinda funny is that the way, the room is designed, the one door actually gets in the way of the person entering the room. Kinda poorly designed for a wealthy person like himself. You think they would of moved the safe over to the right more, that way you don't have to sneak past that little door when entering.



I am pretty sure that when mac is sneaky through the infared alarm beams, that his shoulder would have triggered the beam above. Watch this scene closely as he starts to put his foot through, his right shoulder comes awfully close to that top beam, if not breaking it. Of course you can't see the beam but you can imagine where it is from the relation of the hole in the door frame to where macs shoulder should have triggered the alarm.

Posted by: uniquelyjas 3 April 2017 - 04:06 PM
This doesn't have anything to do with continuity or fact-checking, but I didn't know where else to address this as it's been bothering me. In the scene where he's using the "fixed" die to win at craps, when he puts the real die back he drops the "fixed" ones in his drink. Duh! Of course the waitress will discover them and of course she'll remember the virgin bloody mary belonged to the high-roller. Was this just an oops in the script/directing or did he do that on purpose?

Posted by: Roaddawg71 16 February 2019 - 03:27 PM
QUOTE (uniquelyjas @ 3 April 2017 - 04:06 PM)
This doesn't have anything to do with continuity or fact-checking, but I didn't know where else to address this as it's been bothering me. In the scene where he's using the "fixed" die to win at craps, when he puts the real die back he drops the "fixed" ones in his drink. Duh! Of course the waitress will discover them and of course she'll remember the virgin bloody mary belonged to the high-roller. Was this just an oops in the script/directing or did he do that on purpose?

Its possible that he intended to take his drink and forgot because he was talking to Catlin. When the waitress saw it, she picked it up.

Posted by: zoeryan 20 February 2019 - 05:00 PM
QUOTE (uniquelyjas @ 3 April 2017 - 04:06 PM)
This doesn't have anything to do with continuity or fact-checking, but I didn't know where else to address this as it's been bothering me. In the scene where he's using the "fixed" die to win at craps, when he puts the real die back he drops the "fixed" ones in his drink. Duh! Of course the waitress will discover them and of course she'll remember the virgin bloody mary belonged to the high-roller. Was this just an oops in the script/directing or did he do that on purpose?

yeah I always thought that was a little too obvious too... like he could have just as easily put them in his pocket then drop them in a drink. It seemed like he sort of wanted to get caught but then he runs away so hmm.bmp

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