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Originally posted by lemmy357.

MacGyver USA DVD Season 1 missing footage
Episode: Thief of Budapest

Cut #1
Location:

UNCUT: 5:53 to 7:05 (1:12 total length)
DVD: 5:54 to 6:39 (0:45 total length)
Opening Credits Uncut: (*RED implies not in the edited DVD credits)
Passport
Stick through gun trigger
Wrench on steering wheel nut
Foot dragging barbed wire
*Rope being pulled off a reel
*Control panel being removed
*Lens deflecting laser

Strap being tied around gear shifter
*Camera flash being placed in plastic explosives
*Flare gun being pulled from cockpit of plan

Swiss army knife being opened
Moving gear shifter back and forth
Arc welding with jumper cables and coin
Pulling a cord or string out of something orange to inflate it
Timer counting down to 00:00
Explosion with MacGyver logo
Mac Rolling on ground then firing a weapon he made
Mac running toward someone with a pole and kicking them
Mac jumping in a raft
Mac repelling
Mac sliding down sand dune
*Mac crawling on ground below a bus
Mac jumping on a helicopter
*Mac jumping in some kind of window
Mac standing next to plane propeller (longer shot)
*Mac looking over an edge
*Mac eating ice cream in front of traffic light

Mac smiling (I think this he is in front of a campfire)
Mac knocking the guy off of his horse with his cane
Close-up of Mac on the horse
*Mac knocking a gun out of mans hand with his rolled up map.
*Mac running and getting down behind a barrel
*Mac putting something on a table

Mac diving as a helicopter is firing
*Mac paddling a raft
*Mac running in desert

Mac taking his hood off to let the water out (to kill the ants)
Mac lowering himself out of the ceiling.Mac turning around quickly outside of a door
Mac narrowly making it through a closing gate
Mac letting out a "whew"
DVD Opening Credits:
Passport
Stick through gun trigger
Wrench on steering wheel nut
Foot dragging barbed wire
Strap being tied around gear shifter
Swiss army knife being opened
Moving gear shifter back and forth
Arc welding with jumper cables and coin
Pulling a cord or string out of something orange to inflate it
Timer counting down to 00:00
Explosion with MacGyver logo
Mac Rolling on ground then firing a weapon he made
Mac running toward someone with a pole and kicking them
Mac jumping in a raft
Mac repelling
Mac standing next to plane propeller (shorter shot than the UNCUT version)
Mac jumping on a helicopter
Mac sliding down sand dune
Mac knocking the guy off of his horse with his cane
Close-up of Mac on the horse
Mac diving as a helicopter is firing
Mac taking his hood off to let the water out (to kill the ants)
Mac lowering himself out of the ceiling
Mac turning around quickly outside of a door
Mac narrowly making it through a closing gate
Mac letting out a "whew"
Total Cut Time: 27 seconds

Cut #2
Location:

UNCUT: 7:05
DVD: 6:39
Description: After opening credits, the UNCUT version has 3 shots of the city (looks like
stock footage) before going to the shot that the DVD begins with.
Total Time: 17 seconds
Cut #3
Location:

UNCUT: 14:10
DVD: 13:24
Description:.DVD: Scene starts with old gypsy man dancing
UNCUT: Starts with close-up of little gypsy girl dancing and playing a tambourine and
then zooms out a bit and shows another gypsy juggling as the little gypsy girl turns her
back on the camera and dances away. Scene then goes to old gypsy man dancing.
Total Cut Time: 7 seconds
Cut #4
Location:

UNCUT: 16:36
DVD: 15:46
Description:
The DVD begins with the arrested gypsy family being escorted out of the front door by a
guard.
The UNCUT version starts with a view through binoculars as MacGyver is looking around
the prison camp. Then the scene switches to MacGyver and the gypsy girl on the hill
overlooking the camp. Then back to the binocular view, then back to the view of Mac and
girl (several scenes here with some dialogue), then on to the scene of the family being
brought out by the guard.
Dialogue:
Mac: Nice place
Gypsy girl: Borza is a prison, a place for political people
Gypsy girl: I don't understand MacGyver, my family is not bad. Why would they bring
them to a special prison? Is it the watch?
Mac: I'm afraid so honey.
Gypsy girl (holding her necklace): Saint Dismas
Mac: Patron saint of thieves. Hope he is working today.
Gypsy girl: Today he has to work extra hard.
Total Cut Time: 57 seconds
Cut #5
Location:

UNCUT: 27:58
DVD: 26:12
Description:
The DVD begins with Mac walking in to the bar
The UNCUT version shows a man sweeping outside the bar and Mac far away walking
toward the entrance of the bar. Mac walks up to the man sweeping and talks with him.
Dialogue:
Mac (narrating): The man who said life is just a bowl of cherries had it wrong. Its a bowl
of Hungarian goulash. Hot and sticky. And I'm not that hungry.
Mac (to sweeper): Hi
(sweeper says nothing).Mac: Am I too late for happy hour?
(sweeper says nothing)
Total Cut Time: 27 seconds
Cut #6
Location:

UNCUT: 30:39
DVD: 28:25
Description:
DVD: In the bar Mac escapes the fight when the woman calls him up to her room on the
2nd level of the building. The scene cuts from Mac walking out behind the bar directly to
the hands of the woman picking up drinks in her room for her and Mac.
UNCUT: As Mac walks off, scene goes to a shot of one of the guys in the bar (with a hat,
and cigar) then it shows a close-up of the picture he is holding. The picture is of Mac. He
then puts the picture in his jacket. It then shows the woman pouring the drinks, then
picking them up. The DVD version just shows her picking them up.
Total Cut Time: 13 seconds
Cut #7
Location:

UNCUT: 45:59
DVD: 43:33
Description:
DVD: Mac and the gypsy family have just gotten out of the country. Mac and the young
bad guy chasing them walk toward each other on the road. The bad guy screams
"MacGyver". Mac gives him a salute, the camera then goes back to the bad guy. The old
bad guy walks up to him, then the scene fades out. Then there is a fade-in to Mac walking
away from the border guard and back to the excited gypsy family.
UNCUT: After the point where the DVD version fade out occurs, the young bad guy says
something to the old bad guy then the scene changes to Mac having his hands on the
shoulders of the border guard. Then Mac turns to walk off. This is where the USA DVD
fades back in.
Dialogue:
Young bad guy: I'll remember him.
Total Cut Time: 5 seconds
Summary:
Total UNCUT episode time: 48:03
Total DVD episode time: 45:31 (2:32 total cuts)

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Remember though, that if you get the MacGyver Season 1 DVD that says "Original Broadcast Episodes" on the back, you've got the set that has the uncut version of "Thief of Budapest".

(You have to give Paramount some credit for correcting that issue.)



 
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and how I would know that I am buying this uncut version, when I am buying from amazon?



 
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Dang.... Why would they leave out such a large chunk of the episode?



 
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QUOTE (Reptile @ 24 April 2007 - 12:35 AM)
and how I would know that I am buying this uncut version, when I am buying from amazon?

well the cuts where in the "first releases" of the DVD set and quite some time ago now. So I would doubt very much that there are any edited copies left for sale anywhere now.

So all that to say I'm pretty sure Amazon would have up to date versions.


QUOTE (SteelTheWarrior)
Dang.... Why would they leave out such a large chunk of the episode?

My only guess would be that they used a copy which had been edited down for time (to get more ads in).

But then once it was brought to their attention, they went back and found a full version.



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so then if my friend will buy it, I will check it and post here info smile.gif



 
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So just to get this straight: If we are talking about cutted episodes here - does this mean only "Thief of Budapest" or are other episodes of season 1 involved as well?

Since Lothithil wrote

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I finally broke down and bought a new Season One, and I'm finding new delight in watching it and picking out the new scenes--some no more than a few frames here and there--of footage I've never seen before.

Next best thing to watching it all again for the first time! 

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so I kinda wondered.

So I suppose it is too late to get them replaced now? (Since my friend also has the cutted version of season 1, region 1, but apparently didn't get much around in fandom and so she missed this) How did you do that anyway? Did you send your DVDs back or just got new ones?


And, Loth, since you now have the whole complete box, there is no need anymore for the season 1, could you please send it over to me? laugh.gif



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QUOTE (Astra @ 27 October 2007 - 08:09 PM)
And, Loth, since you now have the whole complete box, there is no need anymore for the season 1, could you please send it over to me? laugh.gif

I dunno... I'm kinda emotionally attached to them... biggrin.gif

I can't even bear to throw away my old roughdrafts of my MacFics!

Can you say... obsessive? Yes I am! laugh.gif

While I was playing with the camera, I took a picure of the thing to look for to see if the set you're planning to buy is the set that is unedited:

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So if it says that on the back, the episodes are unedited?



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anyone has a video scene? from footage?

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That was me that sent that to you Rock. Someone from I believe Norway sent me the uncut episode and I compared it and made that list. I then mailed Paramount and complained and they later sent me the updated season 1 set with the missing footage in that episode for free.



 
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ok thanks lemmy, I've updated my original post to reflect that.




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Hi,

I just remembered a little bit after I submitted the Thief of Budapest transcript to you, Rocky, that I used the cut version to make it, and had been looking for someone to transcribe the cut parts.

Lemmy, is it OK if I use your list? I'll give you credit. It would also be more helpful if the action and dialogue could be written together (rather than all action written, then all dialogue). But if that's not possible, I'll stick with what you've got written already.

Thanks smile.gif



 
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QUOTE (lemmy357 @ 14 May 2008 - 07:32 PM)
Someone from I believe Norway sent me the uncut episode and I compared it and made that list.

Yeah, that was me.
That was some good teamwork. smile.gif

I later compared every season 1 episode to the DVD set, and found that "Thief From Budapest" was the only edited episode.

I was surprised that Paramount corrected the mistake so quickly.
But that might be the only positive thing I can say about Paramount's treatment of MacGyver on DVD...



 
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Hi,

i purchased in 2005 the First Season Box Set from an UK store (Region 2) and unfortunately it has Thief Of Budapest cut version.

I'd like to know if the today's version of the Box Set is corrected also in Europe. I searched around the web,but i have not found news about.....

Do you know anything?

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Whats the correct runtime of cut and un-cut versions of the episode on the european dvd?



 
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QUOTE (STACE_MAC @ 5 April 2010 - 03:15 AM)
Hi,

i purchased in 2005 the First Season Box Set from an UK store (Region 2) and unfortunately it has Thief Of Budapest cut version.

I'd like to know if the today's version of the Box Set is corrected also in Europe. I searched around the web,but i have not found news about.....

Do you know anything?

Thanks in advance sakopen.gif

I know the US versions were corrected and the box set now has the complete episodes in it.

Unfortunately I don't know about other region versions.



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Whats the correct runtime of cut and un-cut versions of the episode on the european dvd?

I'm assuming here that the European cuts are the same as the US cuts and if that's so you can see the summery in the first post of this thread which has a list of all the missing scenes and the total time (see below)

Summary:
Total UNCUT episode time: 48:03
Total DVD episode time: 45:31 (2:32 total cuts)



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I bought all mine last year, so I think by then they would of made changes.



 
                                                                     
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I just checked from the current "The Complete Series" box that is sold in Europe, and the running time for the episode is 43:45 and also someone commented about the single first season set that is sold in Finland has the same lenght 43:45.

Its really a pity if they cant release the uncut-version of the episode on the complete set, but if it makes any more sense the episode aint that special.
I might have liked it alot in first broadcast but now watching it after all these years it just is one of the worst ones in the first few seasons.

And so many releases that claim to be complete might be nowhere near that in real.

I wonder why did they edit the parts?



 
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Different regions have different requirements for how many commercials they have to play during TV shows. They also have different requirements for what content is and isn't allowed. These things all have to be factored into the length differences for shows and are all legitimate reasons for cutting scenes.

It might be that each region release would have the original version of the episodes as they were edited for that region.




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Hi Guys,
I had missed this discussion.
I checked the episode in the first season box that I buyed here in Italy (region 2) years ago and it is the cut-version.


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Never noticed anything different on the opening credits except for the Pilot. What is indeed missing on the original dvd's as we all know (including Europe) is the original credits from the Pilot, the scene at the Pentagon and the scene outside the bar in Thief of Budapest. That's all I ever noticed, also Chris is shown leaving the casino twice in The Heist. Also the original Lost Love opening theme has been replaced with the actual third season theme song, just as the opening credits of season 4 and 5 all have the standard openings and not the alternate openings they had during their airings which contained footage of the actual episode being shown.



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