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QUOTE (Fellow Traveler @ 5 March 2013 - 02:20 PM)
Has anyone ever asked the people at Gibson Barnes if they can make a Raider in a lighter color, not the two dark browns they offer? That might be an alternative.

On the first page of this thread, if one scrolls about 3/4 of a way down the page there is a picture posted by Lexscape that shows both the Chevignon and the light brown Gibson & Barnes Raider side by side for comparison. After purchasing my dark brown Raider, I emailed Gibson & Barnes to see if they still made them in this color but I didn't get a response back. I may try giving them a call. Lexscape also mentions that he had to have the knit cuffs and waistband customized with black because they were a lighter brown. I'm not sure how old that particular Raider model is. I can also say that though the Gibson & Barnes Raider is a 3 season jacket (depending on where one lives of course), it is quite a bit heavier than my Avirex, Schott, and Scully versions. I can wear it comfortably in winter and be quite warm. For those looking to get one, I'd recommend it. Gibson's is very well made and durable.



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QUOTE (MacFan092985 @ 5 March 2013 - 06:42 PM)
I own a SCHOTT version of Mac's bomber jacket. I'll post pictures soon (at work right now).

Nice, the Schott is one of my favorites and it definitely looks similar to the Chevignon, especially once broken in.



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Is it possible to post pictures in the MacGyver Wardrobe section of the different versions/brands of the G-2 leather jackets RDA wore throughout the series?



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There's only 2. The Chevignon and later on an unknown newer version.






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QUOTE (Matt @ 21 March 2013 - 09:42 AM)

On the first page of this thread, if one scrolls about 3/4 of a way down the page there is a picture posted by Lexscape that shows both the Chevignon and the light brown Gibson & Barnes Raider side by side for comparison.

I had forgotten all about that! Yet I don't like the leather of that G&B. What is it made from? Goat or cow hide? It looks much too stiff and doesn't drape as well as the Chevignon does and the colour doesn't appeal to me as well. Still, the design is great.



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I think the leather jacket Mac's wearing in "The Invisible Killer" looks like an Avirex, I'm basing this on the design of the main zipper pull tab. Just a guess on my part.



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QUOTE (Fellow Traveler @ 21 March 2013 - 07:45 AM)
I had forgotten all about that! Yet I don't like the leather of that G&B. What is it made from? Goat or cow hide? It looks much too stiff and doesn't drape as well as the Chevignon does and the colour doesn't appeal to me as well. Still, the design is great.

My Raider is goatskin and the color is called dark vintage nappa. This is the lightest of the colors offered in this jacket, or at least it was when I purchased mine. They also said that this one starts out with a more vintage color than the other ones though it is still much darker than the Chevignon and the light brown Raider that Lexscape has. However, mine is still relatively new (4 years old) and while it shows signs of the lighter brown color already it takes many years for a jacket like this to achieve the color of the Chevignon.

The difference here, unless I'm mistaken, is that the Raider Lexscape has started out being that light color and is pretty new while many of these types of jackets didn't. For instance, I have seen a Chevignon and a Schott on eBay that were almost still as dark as my Gibson model. This more than likely means they were worn VERY little since a jacket that is 25+ years old will not retain the original patina when worn frequently. The Schott was a size 46 and actually sold just recently.

I agree when you say the Gibson doesn't drape as well as the Chevignon. However, there is a pretty big age difference as well. As the Gibson Raider ages, it will look more and more distressed and fit more like Mac's. Mine is starting to do this already and when I got it out of the box, it was somewhat stiff. Even with all this being said, Gibson's is still a different "cut." This is most noticeable in the collar and where the shoulder seams end. Again though, I have not seen a Gibson that is over 20 years old so I can't say for sure what they might look like down the road other than the fact that mine is lightening up and has definitely lost the stiffness which I'm liking : )



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Below are two images of my Schott brand leather G-2 Raider. If I remember right, I bought it in 1988, my sophomore in high school. It needs to be oiled . . . the top of the collar is dried and cracking. I haven't worn it in years, but might start wearing it again.

The jacket lining is original. The pocket lining was initially a white cotton lining (the interior pocket still has this lining), but I wore a hole in the right angled pocket lining after repeatedly taking my sunglasses in and out, so I had the four front pockets re-lined with a mocha colored acetate like material.

The zipper pull tabs on the slash pockets were originally small links of gold colored chain with a slightly larger circle that you would actually pull to open and close the pocket. I figured since Mac had his slash pockets opened most of the time, I would do the same and removed the zipper pull tabs. They weren't accurate to begin with so I figured I'd just remove them. At the time, I didn't know 99% of the information I know now regarding the different makers of the G-2 jackets. We didn't have the internet then. sad.gif

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Great looking jacket : )



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For all you Americans out there: there is a close-enough bomber on ebay, ending in about two hours:

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For the Americans around here: there is another close-enough Schott G2 selling on ebay shortly.



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The Newer Jacket shown in the later seasons looks like an avirex, the leather zipper pull and the tan lining are styles of the Avirex, can anyone confirm?



 
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Hi everyone, I wanted to post the below info. here first since macgybl sent me a message asking about the dark brown G-2 Raider worn by RDA in later seasons. As far as I know, nobody has been able to confirm the brand of the newer dark brown one. Many have mentioned the possibility of it being made by Gibson & Barnes or Avirex. It has also been compared to the G-2 worn by RDA in Season 3 and later in Stargate SG-1.

Anyway, the reason for posting this is because I may have found the answer. I've not heard of this brand prior to seeing an advertisement online but it seems the J. Peterman Co. out of Lexington Kentucky makes a G-2 that looks nearly identical to the one from Stargate and from the later seasons of MacGyver. It also looks like the Avirex and Gibson versions so this could answer those questions as well. The model number is No. 1970 and here is a link to their site with a pic of it: http://www.jpeterman.com/Lambskin-Flight-Jacket

Scroll down to the lower right of the screen for a real picture instead of the rough drawing in the center of the screen. Because you cannot see the storm flap or small leather zipper pull tab (also on the Avirex) check out this worn in one on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MENS-LAMBSKIN-LEAT...=item19e71d2cca

Here is another on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/J-Peterman-Vintage...=item5d47d05238

The seventh picture shows the top of the storm flap being a perfect 90 degree angle like the one from Stargate and the jacket later worn in MacGyver. The others, including the Schott & Chevignon, had a nice sloping shape at the top of the storm flap. The flap on the dark brown one used in the later seasons of MacGyver also appeared to be wider than the others which is a characteristic of this one as well.

Next, I thought I would mention that RDA's G-2 in "Legend of The Holy Rose Part 2" could have been a J. Peterman version since it had the larger storm flap with the squared off top. An example can be seen perfectly at 0:06 seconds in the following video clip where Mac is explaining the laser (or optical pump). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNL8QJJGtHU

Though the color of this one matches the older G-2's, it could have been aged or perhaps it was already relatively old when used for this episode. Note the J. Peterman jacket in the first eBay link I posted shows how this one will change to that light brown color like the others do. The Peterman also has the white lining like the Avirex minus the picture of the aviator. A pic of this can be seen in the 6th picture in the first eBay link.

Obviously, this is speculative but since I have never seen this brand mentioned on here I felt it was worthy of posting. I made a new thread about this as well hope others find this interesting biggrin.gif



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If anyone is interested in the Scully G-2, there is a really nice looking distressed one on eBay right now at this link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scully-G-2-B-2-Fli...=item27de1dbde5

The seller is calling it a G-2 and mentions MacGyer in the title and description. It's a size small but I can say (having owned 2 size small jackets from Scully) that their size small definitely fits more like a medium (or 40-42 regular). In fact, the seller mentions this as well; further describing it as a jacket that can fit a person with a 44 in. chest who is 6'1" and 180 lbs.

To help put it more in perspective, I am 5'10" and weigh 152 lbs. and the small is a little big on me. I'm going to post all this in the MacGyver's Wardrobe thread which will be found on page 7 here: http://www.macgyveronline.com/forums/index...80#.UupaWftO-Cc



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While talking with RDA at Starfest, the topic of his brown leather jacket (I assume it was the chevignon one) came up. The reason behind this discussion will be referred to once I post pics of what I had him autograph. He said he used to wear it all the time (I assume he's referring to wearing it on the show and not off screen, but he didn't specify) and that now the sleeves are so short (he indicated how short by pointing to a spot on his forearm slightly above his wrist) due to the leather shrinking over time.

A couple of days after Starfest it hit me, given that the jacket no longer fits him, I should have seen if he would be willing to give it to me . . . in exchange for a donation to Sea Shepard.



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QUOTE (MacFan092985 @ 26 April 2015 - 04:19 PM)
While talking with RDA at Starfest, the topic of his brown leather jacket (I assume it was the chevignon one) came up. The reason behind this discussion will be referred to once I post pics of what I had him autograph. He said he used to wear it all the time (I assume he's referring to wearing it on the show and not off screen, but he didn't specify) and that now the sleeves are so short (he indicated how short by pointing to a spot on his forearm slightly above his wrist) due to the leather shrinking over time.

A couple of days after Starfest it hit me, given that the jacket no longer fits him, I should have seen if he would be willing to give it to me . . . in exchange for a donation to Sea Shepard.

He talked about that in my interview with him.

He would have meant he wore it all the time off set because he did in fact wear that jacket all the time. He was wearing it when he went in to read for the part and as he mentions in the interview they actually used his own jacket for a while when the show started.

He should have the jacket on display and charge people to go see it with all the profits going to Sea Sheppard. wink.gif






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He talked about that in my interview with him.

He would have meant he wore it all the time off set because he did in fact wear that jacket all the time. He was wearing it when he went in to read for the part and as he mentions in the interview they actually used his own jacket for a while when the show started.


I forgot that. It's been awhile since I listened to the interview.

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He should have the jacket on display and charge people to go see it with all the profits going to Sea Sheppard. wink.gif


It would be cool if this jacket and any other clothing RDA still owns or can get ahold of that he wore on "MacGyver", "Stargate" and any other TV show or movie he's been in could be set up at the conventions RDA appears at, kind of like a traveling museum.

I hearby state that I would be willing to head up this traveling display. biggrin.gif



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Excuse me, where could I buy the flannel that is inside the jacket? or at least what colors are?



 
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QUOTE (Gonzalo Paredes Cárdenas @ 3 February 2018 - 12:40 PM)
Excuse me, where could I buy the flannel that is inside the jacket? or at least what colors are?

Hi Gonzalo Paredes Cárdenas. You mean the red, black, blue and green colored tartan lining?


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Hello Gonzalo Paredes Cárdenas. Here you have 2 links to choose the tartan.

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Look, this tartan you see in the jacket is one of the easiest to find, is very good. The other is more like the Charles Chevignon also because of the size of the pictures but is practically impossible to find. I got it in my city by chance and very expensive. I recommend that you take care of the size of the box. I have been able to investigate thoroughly because I have a Charles Chevignon and the tartan that has the Charles Chevignon is impossible to find the same currently. It is a tartan of the years 80 and it is logical that everything changes with the passage of time. I hope I could help you. Greetings, comrade.



 
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Hello, I apologize, I would like to know if the exact color of the waistband of Mac's coat is black or it is a dark brown. unsure.gif unsure.gif sak.gif sak.gif macsak.gif macsak.gif



 
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Gonzalo Paredes Cárdenas
Posted: 7 April 2018 - 07:55 AM                                    
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OK thank you very much



 
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Posted: 10 September 2019 - 06:06 PM                                    
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After watching the Invisible Killer, I can pretty much say the later season jacket *might* be an avirex G2. The Main zipper pull and the lining seem to match. Check out ebay and type avirex G2.



 
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