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Posted by: MacGyverOnline 20 November 2006 - 11:02 PM
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QUOTE (rockatteer @ Dec 12 2004, 10:57 PM)

OK... here we go....

I'm putting together a full in depth timeline as a feature of the site.

SO lets get all the dates listed and organized here and then I'll put up the timeline on the site.

so far we have.....


If Mac were born in 1952:

1962 Decmember 14 Mac's dad and grandmother dies in car accident.

1963 MacGyver and his friends playing with dad's gun and the gun kills Jesse.

1967 Mac had an accident that ruined his hope of going to the '68 Olympics in Hockey. ("Think Ice")

1970 He would have graduated high school about 1970.

1970-1973 He served in Vietnam - bomb disposal ("Countdown")

1972 Meets Kate Malloy in Vietnam ("Stringer") (SAM is 19 in 1992)

1973 Is in College and wins the Barricade contest ("Hell Week")

1974 - 1980
* MacGyver graduates with a "degree in Science" mentioning that he studied Physics because it interested him not to earn money ("Flame's End")
* Brief career as a racetrack driver that ended with a crash ("Collision Course")
* Mac worked at Western Tech ("Honset Abe")
* Worked at the Challenger Club full time ("The Challenge")

1980, March 2
Pete and Mac meet chasing Murdock in a Taxi ("Partners) NB This is different than the early episodes where Mac said he meet Pete while on a Camel in the sand.

1986 Mac's mother dies while he is in Afghanistan, presumably on bomb disposal assignment

1990 Mac's grandfather dies of a heart attack.

1992 Mac quits the Phoenix Foundation

1994 Mac travels to London to help friends

1995 - 2004 ????

2005 ????

Other important dates are when MacGyver starts work with the DXS and when he and Pete move to the Phoenix Foundation. When Pete's glaucoma actually started.


Any other dates ideas?



QUOTE (MacGyverGod Dec 13 2004 @ 01:01 AM)

7th century Mac helps Merlin rescueing Cecilia in Camelot

19th century probably 1865 (according to the Belgium tv-magazine it was in 1867 but I think it's 1865, since he carried his gun for four years) after the civil war Mac moves to Serenity

March 23 1952 Mac is born

1967 - 1968 - 1969 Harry just left MacGyver so Mac was about 15, 16 or 17 years

1970 MacGyver meets Ellen Jerico on high school

1979 Mac and Paul are making plans to make the world a better place

1985 Mac works for the Pentagon
Mac and Harry reunites after 16, 17 or 18 years

1986 Mac starts working for Pete and moves to the Phoenix Foundation

1991 Pete's eye problems begins and goes blind


QUOTE (Teri Dec 13 2004 @ 10:43 AM)

Please let me know if you see anything wrong or can add to it. I have been working on this time line on & off for over a year now. ~Thanks

MacGyver Time Line
As pieced together by Teri

1952, March 23
Angus MacGyver was born (see MG thread about Mac's birthday) the son of James and Ellen (nee Jackson) MacGyver (#033 - "Phoenix Under Siege" & #104 - "Passages") in Mission City, Minnesota (#066 - "Blood Brothers")

1962, December 14
MacGyver's maternal grandmother, Celia Jackson, and his father, James MacGyver, died in a car accident. He is left to be raised by his mother and maternal grandfather. (#033 - "Phoenix Under Siege")

c. 1963
Mac had his first drink at age 11 with his friend Freddie Maples. (#108 - "Twenty Questions")

1963
Mac had three childhood friends named: Neil, Chuck, and Jesse. Jesse was killed soon after Neil's birthday in 1963 due to an accident with a gun. (#066 - "Blood Brothers") MacGyver was a member of Students for Gun Control at high school (#116 - "Jerico Games").

1968
Mac had his first drink at age 11 with his friend Freddie Maples. Freddie died at 16 in an alcohol-related car accident. (#108 - "Twenty Questions")

1967
Mac is severely injured, although he recovers his hopes of playing hockey in the '68 Olympics and then turning pro are ended. (#068 - "Thin Ice")

1969
Harry leaves Mac and his mother without saying goodbye. (#010 - "Target MacGyver")

1970 - Presumably before
Mac becomes friends with Jack Dalton. Several times it was mentioned they knew each other as children.

c. 1970
He would have graduated high school.

c. 1970-1973
He served in Vietnam - bomb disposal. MacGyver and his partner Charlie Robinson (who is killed in 1986) had a good time one night when they stole a jeep and went into the French quarters (#014 "Countdown")

c. 1972
Meets Kate Malloy in Vietnam ("Stringer") (SAM is 19 in 1992)

c. 1973
Sean Angus Malloy (a.k.a. SAM) son of MacGyver and Kate Malloy is born (#138 - "The Stringer")

1973
Wins Physics Professor Julian Ryman's college Barricade contest (#053 "Hell Week").

Mid-to-Late 1970's
MacGyver graduates with a "degree in Science" having studied Physics because it "interested" him not to earn money (#014 "Flame's End"). Mac held several jobs. He had a brief career as a racetrack driver that ended with a crash (#069 "Collision Course"). Mac worked at Western Tech ("Honest Abe"). He also worked at the Challenger Club full time (#076 - "The Challenge").

1980, March 2
In between jobs again, MacGyver drive Jack Dalton's cab for him after he breaks both legs skating off the Santa Monica pier whilst watching a blonde. MacGyver picked up the wrong fare. DXS agent Pete Thorton was following 'Homicide International' assassin Murdoc who was dressed as a woman named Sara, who just happened to be Mac's latest fare. Although, Murdoc got away this was Pete and Mac's first meeting (#040 - "Partners" - This episode celebrated the seventh anniversary of Mac and Pete's first meeting. - The original airdate was used for the date). Mac begins working for the DXS.
** NB This is different than an earlier episode (#012 - "Deathlock") where according to Mac and Pete they met when Pete was a colonel on a mission in the desert and MacGyver saved Pete's life by pulling him out of quicksand and putting him on a camel. **

Early 1980's
MacGyver creates several phony identities. One of his favorites and most used, was Dexter Fillmore, a rich, computer geek type with heavy allergies.

1985
MacGyver reunites with his grandfather after 16 years (#010 - "Target MacGyver"). They meet at Harry's cabin in Minnesota to go fishing.
Also in 1985: MacGyver is living in an observatory (#001 - " Pilot"), but moves to Venice Beach before the end of the year (#009 - "The Prodigal").

1986, January 22
Pete be the new deputy chief of the DXS (#012 " Deathlock" - date based on episode air date)

1986, February 12
Pete Thorton becomes the new Executive Director of Operations (#015 - "The Enemy Within" - original air date used to supply date).

Early 1986
MacGyver meets Penny Parker (#016 - "Every Time She Smiles")

1986, Before September 22
Pete Thorton becomes the New Director of Field Operations for the Phoenix Foundation (#023 - "The Human Factor" - original air date used to supply date). Shortly thereafter, MacGyver leaves the DXS and goes to work for Pete as a foundation troubleshooter. (This marks the beginning of the second season). Apparently many people at Phoenix are ex-DXS and there are strong ties between the two entities.

1987, Autumn
MacGyver has moved again, this time to a houseboat in the Marina (#047 - " Back From The Dead").
Also in late 1987, Nikki Carpenter is introduced (#049 - "Fire And Ice") and was last seen in early 1988.

1987, November 16
Mike Forester dies in a mountaineering accident (#052 - "The Widowmaker")

1989, October 31
Murdoc asks MacGyver's help in finding and saving his sister Ashton Cooke (#089 - "Halloween Knights")

1990, April 30
Harry Jackson, MacGyver's maternal grandfather, dies. (#104 - "Passages" - Date of Death based on the first air date of the episode.)

1991
MacGyver helps at an archeological dig for the search for Alexander the Great's tomb (#118 - "Eye of Osiris").
Also in 1991: Pete admits to MacGyver that he has glaucoma. (#121 -"Blind Faith").

1992, April
MacGyver quits the Phoenix Foundation to get to know his 19 year-old son SAM, whom he just met (#139 - "The Stringer").

1994, Spring
MacGyver teams up with his old archaeology professor and goes in search of Atlantis (MacGyver: Lost Treasure of Atlantis (1994).

1996- Current
MacGyver is living deep under cover working at Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado Springs and traveling to strange new worlds while managing to save us all every week (Teri's Theory of Stargate: SG-1).


Languages:
American Sign Language (ASL) #031 - "Silent World"
Russian, German, French (#048 - "Ghost Ship")


QUOTE ( MacGyver Gal Dec 13 2004 @ 11:29 AM)

WOW, Great job! clapping.gif

This is all very interesting stuff. smile.gif



QUOTE ( Vina Dec 13 2004 @ 04:51 PM)

The 1986 date for Mac's mother dying is wrong--he was 19 when she died--so it would have been 1971 or 72 when he was doing bomb disposal. It states this in the Background Bible. He may have been sent to Afghanistan for a related mission during the Viet Nam era. Have to watch The Madonna and/or Runners.

Vina


QUOTE ( MacGyverGod Dec 14 2004 @ 12:57 AM)

Are you sure about that last thing in the Cheyenne mountains or is that in a timeline of one of your stories or are you mixing him up with O'Neill. For me is everything after 1994 a mystery.


QUOTE ( Teri Dec 14 2004 @ 06:06 AM)

QUOTE ( (MacGyverGod *email hidden* Dec 13 2004 @  06:57 AM))

Are you sure about that last thing in the Cheyenne mountains or is that in a timeline of one of your stories or are you mixing him up with O'Neill. For me is everything after 1994 a mystery.


I am under the full belief that Jack O'Neill is MacGyver undercover. You can say it is from a story or not, but there is no doubt in my mind. happy.gif


QUOTE ( MacGyverGod Dec 14 2004 @ 06:52 AM)

It's definitely from a story, even undercover Mac wouldn't use guns or kill aliens. For me everything remains a mystery of his life after 1994 till now. Unless I place the events of my stories in them, but then I own my own timeline.


QUOTE ( Tomms247 Dec 14 2004 @ 10:24 AM)

im so glad im a part of this site 460.gif


QUOTE ( MacGyver Gal Dec 14 2004 @ 10:43 AM)

QUOTE (Vina *email hidden* Dec 12 2004 @  08:51 PM))

The 1986 date for Mac's mother dying is wrong--he was 19 when she died--so it would have been 1971 or 72 when he was doing bomb disposal.


I agree...

If that had happened in 1986, I think the show would have dealt with it at that time.


QUOTE ( Teri Dec 14 2004 @ 12:00 PM)

QUOTE (MacGyverGod *email hidden* Dec 13 2004 @  12:52 PM)

Mac wouldn't use guns or kill aliens. For me everything remains a mystery of his life after 1994 till now.


I don't expect everyone to believe me, but it was my contribution to the timeline along with most of the other info so I figure I am allowed a flight of fantasy. Besides it is in my head that way. I have written three short stories, one long story over 150 pages, and the beginnings of a sequel all featuring Jack as Mac so it really is in my brain that they are the same person.

Besides, Mac did use guns in the first season, Jack generally uses one shot from a zat particullary in later episodes so therefore no killing. Also people change.

Anyway I figured most people would take it as a joke since I listed sources for every fact and for that fact I listed myself as the source.


QUOTE ( rockatteer Dec 14 2004 @ 10:45 PM)

http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/timeline.html

I'd like you guys to check the dates etc to make sure its right and also anything else which you think should be in it.

The events on the timeline will by hyperlinked, so when you click on them a more detailed explination will be listed down the left hand side of the screen.

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QUOTE (MacGyverGod Dec 15 2004 @ 02:29 AM)

Got some more news for you. At the end of the timeline in 1994, you can also mention that Paul Moran dies in Mac's arms and that Mac investigates the killing. Then you can also place during the late 70's, that he and Paul where making plans to make to world a better place and that they both almost died during skiing while hanging down a mountain.
I just watched Target MacGyver and he says he hasn't seen Harry since he was 10 so he probably left shortly after his wife and Mac's father died and it's been 16, 17, 18 years. But that can't be because then Mac should've been 26, 27 or 28 in the first season. But the way it's on the line, is I think the best and that he left when Mac was 15.



QUOTE (rockatteer Dec 16 2004 @ 01:26 PM)

So is everyone happy that we have the details right for the time line?


QUOTE (MacGyverGod Dec 16 2004 @ 11:04 PM)

Hey, I got a few other important dates. First one: the birth of Nikki. Second one: the birth of Penny. Third one: the birth of Jack Dalton. Fourth one: the birth of Pete Thornton. Fifth one: the birth of Murdoc (but I'll guess we have to keep on the guessing on that one) Sixth one: the death of Kate Malloy, the exact date I don't know but remember Sam was 9 years so it happened in 1981 I think or 1982. Seventh and 8th dates are the ones I mentioned about Trail to Doomsday.


QUOTE ( rockatteer Dec 19 2004 @ 03:29 PM)

I just watched "The Stringer" episode.

Nowhere in that episode does Mac ever mention meeting Kate in Vietnam. In fact I didn't even hear the word Vietnam mentioned?

they talk about her dieing in China but nothing about how or where they met.

I want to make sure we've got this right before using it in the time line.

Rock


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QUOTE ( MacGyverGod Dec 20 2004 @ 02:46 AM)

Also those pictures of him and Kate didn't seem to be made in Vietnam. I guess they just met after college in the US and then just parted ways as friends.


QUOTE (rockatteer Dec 20 2004 @ 11:01 PM)

And another question.....

How do we know that Mac served in Vietnam from 1970-73.

I just watched Countdown. The only dates mentined where that Donahue was head of some unit 1971-73. Mac and Charlie mentioned that Donahue was in Nam "a bit before our time"




QUOTE (Vina Dec 21 2004 @ 02:33 AM)

From what I can see of the posts here, it looks like you and Teri got the 70-73 Viet Nam dates from Countdown--but if they actually say in that episode that that was a bit before Mac and Pete were there, that makes sense, because...

The http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/bible.html says Mac's mother died when he was 19 (1971), and Mac said he was in Afghanistan (in what show...Runners, maybe?). Perhaps he got into bomb disposal work during the time he took off from college after he and Amy broke up and he was traveling around the world. (When Amy says "What about your degree?"--I believe she was referring to the fact that he had not completed college yet and she was afraid he wasn't going to finish and get his degree--some source says he took a year off from college--I forget which one). The forest ranger stuff with Karen Miller must have occurred earlier in college before he was involved with Amy and had changed his interest to physics--Karen refers to the fact that he kept changing his mind about what he wanted to do.

Anyway, he would have turned 20 in March 1972--and presumably was back in the States-- during this year he had his relationship with Kate Malloy and maybe went back to college. I don't think anyone ever said they met in VietNam. I think we mistakenly thought that because of the VietNam dates in Countdown. At some point Kate took an assignment in Brazil, separating from Mac, and Sam was born presumably toward the end of 1972. (December would be 9 months exactly from March). According to Hell Week he was in college at Western Tech in 1973--he could have graduated with his degree around 73 or so and then entered the Army to do bomb and booby-trap disposal in VietNamese villages (according to the MacGyver On Ice novel).

Hope that helps.
Vina


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QUOTE (Teri Dec 21 2004 @ 04:16 AM)

I got the Vietnam dates by estimating his age, the time the war was on, and the fact that I was under the assumption that he met Kate while she was a war coorespondent. I don't believe "Countdown" gave anytime frame only the nod that he was a Vet. Perhaps I am wrong, but that is how I got the dates. I think my original post said 70-73 ish or about. I was just estimating when I thought he would have been there.

As for Amy's "What about your degree?" I was under the impression she was worried about him wasting the hard work he put into it by going off on the steamer. I was under the impression they were just graduating since she had just gotten/or applied for the job at the Nuclear power plant.

Hope that clears it up, at least from my point of view.



QUOTE ( Vina Dec 21 2004 @ 05:31 AM)

QUOTE (Teri *email hidden* Dec 20 2004 @  11:16 AM)

As for Amy's "What about your degree?" I was under the impression she was worried about him wasting the hard work he put into it by going off on the steamer. I was under the impression they were just graduating since she had just gotten/or applied for the job at the Nuclear power plant.


True, Teri, this could be taken either way. I seems to fit the timeline better if they were in their last year or so of college and Amy could have been indicating that if they got their degrees, they could both get good jobs at the nuclear plant at some point in the future. Plus, some source says he took a year off from college to travel, but I'll have to hunt up where I saw that.

I think poor Amy had visions of herself and Mac happily married, working in the nuclear plant and living in the proverbial rose covered cottage. But Mac just wasn't that kinda guy! happy.gif

Vina


QUOTE ( Teri Dec 21 2004 @ 05:49 PM)

QUOTE (Vina *email hidden* Dec 20 2004 @  11:31 AM)

I think poor Amy had visions of herself and Mac happily married, working in the nuclear plant and living in the proverbial rose covered cottage.


I think you are right about that!


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QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ Dec 5 @ 2004)

I think I figured it out. In the episode Friends we've seen the date on his resignation letter. It was March 23 1987, right? His father and grandmother died in that car accident on December 14 1962. In Passages he said that he hasn't seen his father since he was 10. So count 10 years backwards to the year he's born and we're in 1952. In Thin Ice he mentioned something about hockey of Turk Donner in 1960 then he said he was 8 years. Count backwards again and we end up in 1952 again. The story he tells us about the car accident in Runners doesn't match with what he tells in Passages. If he was 7 in 1962 he should've been born in 1955, about three years later. There's no way he could've been 39 in Lost Amadeus. It's more like 37 or 38 it depends if the episode is set before or after his next birthday, but absolutely not 39. So when he met Pete he should've been 27 or 28. But instead of blabbering his actual birthday is March 23 1952. I can't see no other way to it. With other words MacGyver is 2 years younger then Richard Dean Anderson. Rick is 54 now, Mac's 52 then. So next year Rick is celebrating his 55th birthday and Mac's 53th birthday.
Correct me if I'm wrong in my theory.


QUOTE
Teri @ Dec 5 2004, 03:49 AM]  

I like your back tracking theory. It makes sense.

I've always calculated his age this way:
In episode 101, "The Lost Amadeus" - Mac's age given as 39 - episode air date March 19, 1990. Therefore his next birthday on March 23rd would make him 40. This would make his birthday, March 23, 1950.

However, your theory would also make sense for 1952 as Jack O'Neill from Stargate according to the episode "Fragile Balance" was born in 1952.

I look forward to seeing if anyone can punch holes in your theory, because it does make sense to me. Good work!  



QUOTE
sonyab @ Dec 9 2004, 06:07 AM  

QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ Dec 8 2004 @  11:05 AM)

Apparently this wasn't such big news after all! I just figured something unimportant out his exact birthday with my waterproof theory. This means he celebrated his 35th birthday in the Friends episode and he was 33 with or in the Pilot episode, plus he is 2 years and two months younger than RDA.



Well on Friends episode his birthday is March 23rd. When Mac meets lulu on the lost Amadeus he says he is 39 the show aired march 19th so in 4 days he would turn 40 woo hoo! smile.gif On that episode when he was with lulu he was with her for 2 days. the 3rd day he was with wilt riding a bike and that's where wilt met lulu so the next day would be his birthday yay! smile.gif


QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ Dec 9 2004 @ 06:53 AM)
  

Read my first message, Sonyab. There's no way he could've been 39 or become 40. Then he should've said I'll be 40 within the next few days. 


QUOTE (sonyab @ Dec 9 2004 @ 07:56 AM )
 

I know I did read your first message but I wanted to share what I saw on tvtome hehehe.. :cowboy1: 



QUOTE (Vina @ Dec 10 2004 @ 04:48 AM)
  

Maybe he forgot Mac was supposed to be 2 years younger (or the writer did) and said his real age of 39 in that episode. 



QUOTE (rockatteer @ Dec 10 2004 @ 11:26 PM )
 

Hey MG. I hate to do this to you. But I just took a look at the MacGyver bio page for this web site......

http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/c1.html

His birthay was there all the time.


QUOTE (Teri @ Dec 11 2004 @ 04:14 AM)
  

The March 23rd 50 or 51 birthdate is on a lot of websites, but it is just as much conjecture as anything else. Isn't it? Granted a logical and educated conclusion I have always subscribed to the March 23, 1950 one myself, but MG makes a lot of good points.

Correct me if I am wrong? 


QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ Dec 11 @ 2004)


I hate to do this to you too Rock, but it's incorrect, I'm certain of my theory. Watch Thin Ice and watch Passages, you'll notice it. In Thin Ice he mentions he was 8 years old when he talks about the trophy that Turk Donner got in 1960 and in Passages he says he hasn't seen his dad since he was 10. His father died in that car crash December 14 1962. 1962 - 10 = 1952 right? 1960 - 8 = 1952. I'm positive, I'm right. In Runners he said he was 7 since he had seen his dad but that wouldn't be right, because then he would born in 1955. It's March 23 1952, I'm a hundred procent sure of it. We're all certain about the date, right? March 23. About the year is something I'm certain of. Check it out. Watch Phoenix under Siege for the death of his father and grandmother December 14 1962. Watch Thin Ice when he says he was eight years old in 1960. Watch Runners for the wrong information and watch Passages when he says he hasn't seen his dad since he was 10. And as I said before; Mac was 33 in the first half of season 1 and celebrated his 35th birthday in the Friends episode. He was either 27 or 28 when he met Pete in 1980, it depends if they met before or after his birthday. So actually in Blood Brothers young Mac should've been about 11 during the gun incident, but he looks older. I'm certain of it March 23 1952!!!


QUOTE (Teri @ Dec 11 2004 @ 06:03 AM )
 

Can anyone poke holes in this theory? It just makes so much sense.

If Mac were born in 1952:

1967 Mac had an accident that ruined his hope of going to the '68 Olympics in Hockey. ("Think Ice")

1970 He would have graduated high school about 1970.

1970-1973 He served in Vietnam - bomb disposal ("Countdown")

1972 Meets Kate Malloy in Vietnam ("Stringer") (SAM is 19 in 1992)

1973 Is in College and wins the Barricade contest ("Hell Week")

1974 - 1980
* MacGyver graduates with a "degree in Science" mentioning that he studied Physics because it interested him not to earn money ("Flame's End")
* Brief career as a racetrack driver that ended with a crash ("Collision Course")
* Mac worked at Western Tech ("Honset Abe")
* Worked at the Challenger Club full time ("The Challenge")

1980, March 2
Pete and Mac meet chasing Murdock in a Taxi ("Partners) NB This is different than the early episodes where Mac said he meet Pete while on a Camel in the sand.

If he were born in 1950 as I have always thought then he graduated about 1968 and probably went to college for two years before Vietnam or went to Vietnam earlier?


QUOTE (Teri @ Dec 11 2004 @ 06:08 AM )

QUOTE (Vina @ Dec 10 2004 @  11:48 AM)


Where did these dates come from?



Hi,

I don't know where he got the January 23rd date other than from RDA's birthday, but here is the source for the other dates:

Born March 23: #042 "Friends"

1950: #101 "The Lost Amadeus" - Mac's age given as 39 - episode air date was March 19, 1990. Therefore his next birthday on March 23rd would make him 40.

Hope that helps.

Teri


QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ December 11 2004)


Hey, Teri these are good. It would be even more interesting if we decently develop a MacGyver-Timeline as a feature of some sort. Hey Rock aren't you interested in this? After all, these are big highlights in his life! Don't forget to mention that in

1962 Mac's dad and grandmother dies in car accident.

1963 MacGyver and his friends playing with dad's gun and the gun kills Jesse.

1986 Mac's mother dies while he is in Afghanistan (I suppose this happens during the To Be A Man episode) I always had this thing that it happened when he was in Alaska for Ghost Ship.

1990 Mac's grandfather dies of a heart attack.

1992 Mac quits the Phoenix Foundation

1994 Mac travels to London to help friends

1995 - 2004 ????

2005 ????


QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ Dec 11 2004 @ 07:37 AM )

To clarify even more, MacGyver's father and grandmother died on Decmember 14, 1962.

And yeah, I guess MacGyver's mother would have died during the "To Be A Man" episode. That sounds about right.

I assume MacGyver's grandmother that died in 1962 would be Cecilia, Harry Jackson's wife (as he mentioned her name in "Passages" and MacGyver's mom addressed Harry as "Dad".) So I wonder what happened to MacGyver's father's parents? Apparently they must have died some time ago too, as Pete notes that Harry was MacGyver's last living relative in "The Stringer", until, of course, SAM comes along.

Other important dates to pinpoint might be when MacGyver starts work with the DXS and when he and Pete move to the Phoenix Foundation. I'm also kind of curious as to when Pete's glaucoma actually started. I know they hinted at it in some episodes before "Blind Faith". Can someone remind me of which ones? (Maybe "High Control" or "There But For the Grace". I can't remember right now.)

And by the way, I'm still hoping 2005 is the year when MacGyver has that big final confrontation with Murdoc and reunites with Pete, SAM, Jack Dalton, Penny Parker, even Nikki Carpenter and The Coltons and has his biggest adventure captured on film and aired in theaters!!!!!  
(with everyone looking the same, but just a little older!)



QUOTE (Teri @ Dec 11 2004 @ 09:02 AM)

I have more I can add, I had developed one (joint with the character of Jack O'Neill for a fanfiction story I wrote) I could clean it up and let you all add to it and fix any mistakes if you are interested.


QUOTE (Teri @ Dec 11 2004 @ 09:05 AM)

QUOTE (MacGyver @ Dec 10 2004 @  01:37 PM)

And yeah, I guess MacGyver's mother would have died during the "To Be A Man" episode.  That sounds about right.


I was always under the impression that Mac's mother died before the series began. After all when he first saw Harry, didn't they comment that they were the only family each other had left?


QUOTE (MacGyver Gal @ Dec 11 2004 @ 09:39 AM)

QUOTE (Teri @ Dec 10 2004 @  01:05 PM )

I was always under the impression that Mac's mother died before the series began. After all when he first saw Harry, didn't they comment that they were the only family each other had left?


Yeah...me too.

I don't think they ever mentioned when she died. Mac said that he was in Afghanistan, but that could have been many years ago for all we know.


QUOTE (Vina @ Dec 12 2004 @ 06:43 AM)

Yes, Mac's mother would have died before the series began. The Background Bible that was written probably between first and second season says he was only 19 when she died. This document, which I bought on eBay, surfaces every now and then.

I believe he did say in 1 or 2 episodes that he was in Afghanistan, but it would not have been the mission he was there for in To Be A Man. It would have been around 1971-72 when he would have been doing bomb disposal for the Army Special Forces according to the one MacGyver novel that was written.

And what is with the movie fantasies? Paramount has made it clear a long time ago that they would NOT use RDA--they want someone younger. Most likely NONE of the original cast would be in it.  In other words, it would suck big time! 

Vina


QUOTE (MacGyverGod Dec 12 2004 @ 08:28 AM)

You wouldn't know that. I think they should at least use Dalton James to play Sam but then more as Sean Angus MacGyver and Bruce McGill as Jack Dalton. We'll see I guess. But if they're making movies of older tv-shows I'm sure Mac must be one of 'em. Plus I think there should be more MacGyver novels. 


QUOTE (rockatteer Dec 12 2004 @ 09:09 PM )

QUOTE
It would be even more interesting if we decently develop a MacGyver-Timeline as a feature of some sort. Hey Rock aren't you interested in this? After all, these are big highlights in his life! Don't forget to mention that in


Yes MG there is a detailed timeline on its way.

I'm hoping to get it done over the Xmas break and it will be an integrated feature of the MacGyver Online site.


QUOTE (Rockatteer @ Dec 12 2004 @ 09:16 PM )

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Where did these dates come from, Rock?


I can't remember. I think they might be from the original MacGyver site. You know the old one which is closed down, but still online as an archive type thing.

So anyway....

Are we all in agreement that MGs dates are right? and the other time line information is correct?




QUOTE (Teri @ Dec 23 2004 @ 10:49 AM )

QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ Dec 4 2004 @  08:02 AM )

In Thin Ice he mentioned something about hockey of Turk Donner in 1960 then he said he was 8 years. Count backwards again and we end up in 1952 again.


Hi,

I have been trying hard in my mind to disprove your theory (usually the best way to confirm a theory afterall).

I haven't been able to YET, but I did come-up with one possibility.

In "Thin Ice", Mac did say he was 8 during the 1968 Olympics when he watched Turk win his medal. Of course this is fictional because we assume the medal was for the US and in 1968 the Soviet Union took Gold, Czechoslovakia - Silver, Canada - Bronze.

Now assuming the Olympics in MacGyver's universe were held when they were in this universe the Olympics were held in Feb of 1960 before his March birthdate. So if Mac was 8 years old, he would have been born in 1951.

Now for me this is not enough to discount your theory (I still like it very much), but I would love to hear opinions.

Teri


QUOTE (MacGyverGod Dec 24 2004 @ 05:23 AM )

Might. But I'm not certain until I've seen that episode myself. But that's indeed not enough to discount my theory. If it's true it's true but Mac is 52'er kinda guy not a 51'er and most of the odds are still against it, I guess. 

Posted by: Kate Mackay 22 March 2007 - 03:01 PM
QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ 22 November 2006 - 02:55 AM)
I think I figured it out. In the episode Friends we've seen the date on his resignation letter. It was March 23 1987, right? His father and grandmother died in that car accident on December 14 1962. In Passages he said that he hasn't seen his father since he was 10. So count 10 years backwards to the year he's born and we're in 1952. In Thin Ice he mentioned something about hockey of Turk Donner in 1960 then he said he was 8 years. Count backwards again and we end up in 1952 again. The story he tells us about the car accident in Runners doesn't match with what he tells in Passages. If he was 7 in 1962 he should've been born in 1955, about three years later. There's no way he could've been 39 in Lost Amadeus. It's more like 37 or 38 it depends if the episode is set before or after his next birthday, but absolutely not 39. So when he met Pete he should've been 27 or 28. But instead of blabbering his actual birthday is March 23 1952. I can't see no other way to it. With other words MacGyver is 2 years younger then Richard Dean Anderson. Rick is 54 now, Mac's 52 then. So next year Rick is celebrating his 55th birthday and Mac's 53th birthday.
Correct me if I'm wrong in my theory.


The reason he was saying that he was 39 years old, was because RICHARD was 39 that year. He was just turning 40 in fact . A fact that I would know because we know that Richard was born in 1950 . And so in 1990 , he would have been 40. And probably when they were filming that episode it was probably done the tail - end of the year before ( 1989 ) . I remember about Rick because it seems that the last number of the year is the same as how old Rick is. 9 for Rick equals 9 in the year 1989 . Etc.

But I am looking forward to tomorrow (March 23 , 2007 ) , because I KNOW it to be Angus MacGyver's 55th birthday . I am so happy to see that someone , here, figured it out . Congratulations ! It is better than what some of the people in my other group can do . I mean, over there , there is still the debate . I will just have to relate your information to them. So I say , Congratulations , and a thank you for sharing that info with us . And if he were a real guy, I would be sending him a very Happy Birthday wish .

Sincerely,
Katey Mackay

Posted by: MacGyverGod 23 March 2007 - 05:50 AM
QUOTE (Kate Mackay @ 23 March 2007 - 12:11 AM)
QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ 22 November 2006 - 02:55 AM)
I think I figured it out. In the episode Friends we've seen the date on his resignation letter. It was March 23 1987, right? His father and grandmother died in that car accident on December 14 1962. In Passages he said that he hasn't seen his father since he was 10. So count 10 years backwards to the year he's born and we're in 1952. In Thin Ice he mentioned something about hockey of Turk Donner in 1960 then he said he was 8 years. Count backwards again and we end up in 1952 again. The story he tells us about the car accident in Runners doesn't match with what he tells in Passages. If he was 7 in 1962 he should've been born in 1955, about three years later. There's no way he could've been 39 in Lost Amadeus. It's more like 37 or 38 it depends if the episode is set before or after his next birthday, but absolutely not 39. So when he met Pete he should've been 27 or 28. But instead of blabbering his actual birthday is March 23 1952. I can't see no other way to it. With other words MacGyver is 2 years younger then Richard Dean Anderson. Rick is 54 now, Mac's 52 then. So next year Rick is celebrating his 55th birthday and Mac's 53th birthday.
Correct me if I'm wrong in my theory.

QUOTE


The reason he was saying that he was 39 years old, was because RICHARD was 39 that year. He was just turning 40 in fact . A fact that I would know because we know that Richard was born in 1950 . And so in 1990 , he would have been 40. And probably when they were filming that episode it was probably done the tail - end of the year before ( 1989 ) . I remember about Rick because it seems that the last number of the year is the same as how old Rick is. 9 for Rick equals 9 in the year 1989 . Etc.

But I am looking forward to tomorrow (March 23 , 2007 ) , because I KNOW it to be Angus MacGyver's 55th birthday . I am so happy to see that someone , here, figured it out . Congratulations ! It is better than what some of the people in my other group can do . I mean, over there , there is still the debate . I will just have to relate your information to them. So I say , Congratulations , and a thank you for sharing that info with us . And if he were a real guy, I would be sending him a very Happy Birthday wish .

Sincerely,
Katey Mackay

I know that, now, I was just reposting it.

But like I figured the majority of the events counting them backwards always ends up at March 23, 1952.

Posted by: SHEILA 27 August 2008 - 01:35 AM
Ok I was just looking at the timeline Rock has added.It shows Mac graduates from high school in 1970.That can't be right.I thought it was 1968.In the epo Jerico Games.It shows mac looking at his yearbook at the end of the epo.
Ok so if Mac finished high school in 1968 and Harry left in 1969 I don't think Mac would have joined the army and leave his mother by herself.It is also possable that Mac could have been drafted but I don't think so .He could have fell under the claus that he was the last and only son of his family.They army may have not dfated him.It is deaflenty worth looking into. I tend to lean on Mac being in Vietnam after he graduates from college.The war was not over until 1975.But who knows.So what do we have
1968 High School Graduates
1969 Harry Leaves.Mac goes to collage
Mac in his college years meets a lot of women.How meny times can one man fall in love.I guess for MacGyver a lot. So what do we have 1969-1973 Mac college years.
It also looks like that Mac did travel a lot in his years after college with his friends Mike and Jack.They did a tour all over the world.That was said in season two.When Mac got conned into recuse Mike fron South Amercia(Jack Of Lies).That was after college.The research I did on the Afghanistan assignment would have been a black ops mission.I spoke to my friend he said at the there was nothing going on in the 1970's or 1980's that would have been involed with.I would say this that maybe in the years of 1973-1979 that Mac went in the Army and went to Nam.Pete said that he new Mac for about 7 years in the Deadlock from season one.That would put Mac in the 1978 work for the goverment.But in season 2 of epo Partners Mac was working for his friend Jack.Don't you love the fact the the writers of the show total contradieted there selfs there.But who am I to judge.It hard trying to keep timelines in order.We do have a soild Date for some stuff thought.1968 high school graduation 1973 College.1969 Harry left Mac and his mother.Mac would be 17.

So what can we draw from all of my to much wasted time on watching MacGyver.That I now have the complete season 1-7 and the two movies.That plan to spead to watch all that seasons again at take notes to make my own time line from them.I still have so many story that I am writing now. I will take my time with them.I'm up to about 4or5 now.I hope that this helps eveyone with there fanfiction and reasearch.


Enjoy

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 27 August 2008 - 02:01 AM
I've just updated the time line to show his graduation year as 1968.

If you find any more inaccuracies please let me know and I'll fix them up.


QUOTE
I don't think Mac would have joined the army and leave his mother by herself.It is also possable that Mac could have been drafted but I don't think so .He could have fell under the claus that he was the last and only son of his family.They army may have not dfated him.It is deaflenty worth looking into. I tend to lean on Mac being in Vietnam after he graduates from college.

That doesn't explain how he was "on assignment in Afghanistan" when his mother died though?

Posted by: SHEILA 27 August 2008 - 02:56 AM
I think your right.Man this is hard.Ok we know Mac went to college any where from 1969 -1973when he graduted.So maybe could not get over the fact that Harry left and did that same thing wanting to see the world.So after a year of having no Harry around he laft too.

Let't say this he sent a year or two at college and wanted to do something more.Took a break from college and joined the army or the fact the army did not give a dam about the last son clause and drafted him anyway.That would be about 1971-1973. Vets in Nam only did maybe 1 or 2 tours.So Mac does the bomb unit thing and seeing what war does to people asks for resignment and gates picked for the special forces and get sent to Afghanistan. After finding out about his mom he ask to be discharged knowing that the goverment could call him for anything beacuse he is one of there top men.

So what do think..

Posted by: MacGyverGod 27 August 2008 - 04:23 AM
There might be a screw up in the events though. Deathlock and Partners is a mixup. First they met each other in Afghanistan than all of sudden in Partners they've met each other while chasing down Murdoc.

If you watch episodes like Thin Ice, Runners and Passages. There's also a mixup. In Thin Ice Mac mentions Turk Donner won the trophy during the hockey games of 1960. He said, he was 8 at the time. Count 8 years back and Mac is born in 1952. In Runners he says that his father died when he was 7. His father died in 1962 as it was stated in Phoenix Under Siege. Harry said that it was already 25 years since the accident. You probably count 24 years but we can assume that Harry meant it was going into his 25th year.

So if Mac was 7 when his father died he would've been born in 1955 and wouldn't have graduated school in 1970 but in 1972 and probably never been send to Viëtnam.

Than in Passages Mac tells Harry he hasn't seen his dad since he was 10. Three year difference. But this statement is correct to what he said in Thin Ice. If the accident happened in 1962 and he was 10 at the time than again he would've been born in 1952. This is 2 to 1.

So I'm pretty sure this is how it goes. Mac' s born on March 23 1952 and so celebrating his 35th birthday in Friends.

In case of doubt.
http://www.macgyveronline.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2846

But if the yearbook said 1968, you might as well found a nitpick in it.

For all we know Mac was sent to 'Nam when the war was already ending. But still disarmed like 50+ bombs with Charlie Robinson.

So in all Mac mentions something about Harry leaving 16, 17, 18 years ago in Target MacGyver. He's (as explained in my link) 33 at the time. So Harry did indeed left in 1969 as mentioned on our timeline.

http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/timeline.html

QUOTE
I've just updated the time line to show his graduation year as 1968.

This is incorrect. Because Mac would've been 16 if he graduated that year. Don't forget that according in what I still believe to be solid theory, Mac is two years and two months younger than Richard Dean Anderson.

So that he still graduated in 1970 when he's 18. That same year he goes to college, spents 3 years there to win the barricade contest in 1973. Hooray for him when he wins it. Than he goes into the army to go to 'Nam and presumably stays there till the end of the war in 1975. Than later he goes back to finish his last year of college. This seems like the only way it would make sense or else he couldn't have been in 'Nam. Skipping a year and coming back.

Or he did finish his education at college and he graduates in 1974 and than he joins the army (probably after establishing the Challenger's Club with Cynthia and Booker) and the war in it's last year. This might even make more sense.
This of course resulting that his mother was indeed left behind for a while. But than she might not have died in 1971 as our timeline says but maybe somewhat later in the 70's. So than he gets send on a mission in Afghanistan.

If you said there was no military activity in Afghanistan nearing halfway the 70's, we might as well assume it was a fictional assignment just to quick quick find something for MacGyver not being able to be there when his mother dies.

If I recall well didn't the Soviet/Afghan war started in 1979? Something tells me that war lasted between 1979 and 1988. Maybe that was the reason why he was send to Afghanistan. But America probably didn't had anything to look for there, not in the beginning anyway. Chances are likely he could've met Pete briefly than in Afghanistan.

If that's the case he was sent there because of the war, you can say his mother than died around Chrismas time 1979. If it was a fictional assignment, she probably died around Christmas time 1975 or '76.

One last thing. The travels with Jack and Mike where then probably between 1979 and 1981. In Jack of Lies Mac says he hasn't seen Jack in over five years. The episode was set in 1986. So that is correct.

I can see him going along this trips to get over his mother's death if she died in 1979 and he was sent to the war in Afghanistan. Or this could've taken place after he quit hellfighting with Bill. Or he just wanted to see the world and learn about it. Before you come up with the argument: 'what about Jack's broken legs?' Nothing pinpoints they were gone for two years. They might as well have seen one side of the world, gone back home for a while and left again to see the other side after Jack was healed.

Mac did indeed work for Jack, but probably didn't get paid. He said he wanted to keep Jack's taxi business up and running. Than he bumps in on Pete and Murdoc.

*whew* This is quite a lot but I think this quite sums it up. But if there are other inaccuracies in the show it's probably because they used Rick's actual birthday to set events or what happens in Mac's life or it simply just doesn't match. But I think this is just as accurate you can get.

Oh and for the record what Jerico Games is concerned. It was said Mac and Ellen haven't seen each other since high school graduation, twenty years before. This was still 1990 though aired in 1991 and it's according to the Pilot set in present times, in this case it isn't. Probably several weeks in the past. But than we can become extremely nitpicky and keep going on and on about those things. I always assumed that between adventures can be at least like several weeks or even a couple of months time.

And now I close down this very long post.

Posted by: Makoto 13 November 2008 - 12:57 AM
I examined 1960 Winter Olympics. According to Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_Winter_Olympics
QUOTE
The 1960 Winter Olympics, officially known as the VIII Olympic Winter Games, were a winter multi-sport event which was celebrated between February 18 and February 28, 1960 in Squaw Valley, California, United States (located near the Lake Tahoe basin). Squaw Valley won the bid in 1955. It was the first return of the Olympic Games to North America in 28 years.

MacGyver said he was 8 years old in "THIN ICE", if MacGyver was 8 years old between February 18 and February 28 in 1960, then MacGyver was 9 years old on next birthday March 23rd 1960. So MacGyver was born in 1960-9=1951 ???

Posted by: MacGyverGod 13 November 2008 - 11:29 AM
Did Mac mention Winter Olympics? Could be though, been a while since I saw that episode.

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 13 November 2008 - 12:15 PM
QUOTE (Makoto @ 13 November 2008 - 09:57 PM)
MacGyver said he was 8 years old in "THIN ICE", if MacGyver was 8 years old between February 18 and February 28 in 1960, then MacGyver was 9 years old on next birthday March 23rd 1960. So MacGyver was born in 1960-9=1951 ???

The thing to remember here is that there are several conflicting conflicting ages given through out this series.

Have a read of the link MacGyverGod posted earlier in this thread which has in depth analysis and calculation of MacGyver's age based on other information as well.

And as MacGyverGod said the majority of events when countered backwards end up at 1952.


Posted by: Liz1976 13 November 2008 - 12:43 PM
QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 14 November 2008 - 08:15 AM)
QUOTE (Makoto @ 13 November 2008 - 09:57 PM)
MacGyver said he was 8 years old in "THIN ICE", if MacGyver was 8 years old between February 18 and February 28 in 1960, then MacGyver was 9 years old on next birthday March 23rd 1960. So MacGyver was born in 1960-9=1951 ???

The thing to remember here is that there are several conflicting conflicting ages given through out this series.

Have a read of the link MacGyverGod posted earlier in this thread which has in depth analysis and calculation of MacGyver's age based on other information as well.

Yes but Lost Amadeus set in the spring of 1990, he tells Lulu that he is 39 making his birthday in 1951, March 23, 1951.

Posted by: MacGyverGod 13 November 2008 - 01:01 PM
That doesn't add up. My conclusion in the end was that since most events counted back to the same date March 23 1952. He said in Passages that he was ten when his dad died. Bump in Runners. And I think Passages is the most correct one on Mac's life and family. I can't see the young Mac in the flashback being older than ten. OK, what's eleven than? But it doesn't seem right.

Posted by: Makoto 14 November 2008 - 04:00 AM
If MacGyver was born in 1951, what was the most problem ?
Harry said that it was already 25 years since the accident.
1986-25=1961, then 1961-10=1951 ???

Posted by: Makoto 14 November 2008 - 05:53 PM
In "THIN ICE" MacGyver said in front of the medal:
"It's Turk Donner's gold medal, Squaw Valley, 1960. Turk and his team beat the Czechs. I was eight, and I still remember him bringing home that medal."
And the medal said "TEAM USA OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL 1960"

I think MacGyver meant Final round on February 28 at 8:00 a.m. USA 9-4 Czechoslovakia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hockey_at_the_1960_Winter_Olympics

Posted by: MacBeth 14 November 2008 - 06:49 PM
Just a thought:

QUOTE (Rocky)
I've just updated the time line to show his graduation year as 1968.

QUOTE (MGod)
This is incorrect. Because Mac would've been 16 if he graduated that year. Don't forget that according in what I still believe to be solid theory, Mac is two years and two months younger than Richard Dean Anderson.

So that he still graduated in 1970 when he's 18.

Mac might have graduated early; he was certainly bright enough. At the time I was in school, there was a great deal of resistance in most US school systems to allowing kids to skip grades, no matter how bright they were or how stultifying the resulting boredom was; but it was far more common during the years when MacGyver would have been going through school.

Same with college. He didn't necessarily take four years to complete a degree.

The only requirement in terms of what age he had to be at any given point in his timeline is that he could not have joined the military when he was underage.

Two more notions to toss out there:

With the skewed attitudes of Hollywood, it wouldn't be at all unusual for a character to be represented as being younger than the actual age of the actor.

And we are, in fact, more interested in finding continuity and internal consistency in Mac's timeline and backstory than the producers and creators of the character were. Perfect consistency is hard for us to find (or rationalise) because it just isn't there. It wasn't put there for us to find.

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 14 November 2008 - 07:09 PM
QUOTE (MacBeth @ 15 November 2008 - 03:49 PM)
Perfect consistency is hard for us to find (or rationalise) because it just isn't there.  It wasn't put there for us to find.

This is an important point to remember.

There are inconsistent and even conflicting time frames given throughout the series regarding specific events in MacGyver's life.

The best we can do is use the dates which calculate most often int he show. I think we can calculate 1952 more often than 1951, although I'm not certain of this at the moment.

QUOTE (Makoto)

  In "THIN ICE" MacGyver said in front of the medal:
"It's Turk Donner's gold medal, Squaw Valley, 1960. Turk and his team beat the Czechs. I was eight, and I still remember him bringing home that medal."
And the medal said "TEAM USA OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL 1960"

1960 - 8 = 1952.

Have you see this from MacGyverGod?

QUOTE (MacGyverGod)
I think I figured it out. In the episode Friends we've seen the date on his resignation letter. It was March 23 1987, right? His father and grandmother died in that car accident on December 14 1962. In Passages he said that he hasn't seen his father since he was 10. So count 10 years backwards to the year he's born and we're in 1952. In Thin Ice he mentioned something about hockey of Turk Donner in 1960 then he said he was 8 years. Count backwards again and we end up in 1952 again. The story he tells us about the car accident in Runners doesn't match with what he tells in Passages. If he was 7 in 1962 he should've been born in 1955, about three years later. There's no way he could've been 39 in Lost Amadeus. It's more like 37 or 38 it depends if the episode is set before or after his next birthday, but absolutely not 39. So when he met Pete he should've been 27 or 28. But instead of blabbering his actual birthday is March 23 1952. I can't see no other way to it. With other words MacGyver is 2 years younger then Richard Dean Anderson. Rick is 54 now, Mac's 52 then. So next year Rick is celebrating his 55th birthday and Mac's 53th birthday.
Correct me if I'm wrong in my theory.

Posted by: Makoto 14 November 2008 - 09:47 PM
I said:
QUOTE
MacGyver said he was 8 years old in "THIN ICE", if MacGyver was 8 years old between February 18 and February 28 in 1960, then MacGyver was 9 years old on next birthday March 23rd 1960. So MacGyver was born in 1960-9=1951 ???

QUOTE
Harry said that it was already 25 years since the accident.
1986-25=1961, then 1961-10=1951 ???

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 14 November 2008 - 10:03 PM
OK, I think after re-reading your comment some more I've figured out what your trying to say.

The game MacGyver refers to in Thin Ice took place in February before his birthday. He was 9 years old when he watched that game, so the birthday he had in 1960 would have actually been his 10th birthday (not his 9th) so that puts his birth-year back to 1951.





Posted by: MacGyverGod 15 November 2008 - 10:24 AM
8-9. I became 21 last year and I was 21 this year as well. MacGyver could've meant he became 8 that year. So when I was 21 in 2007. If events took place in 2007 before my birthday I'd still stay I was 21 because I was becoming 21 that year.

So than his father and grandmother died on December 14 1961. Than the 25 year anniversary is correct, but I always figured it was going into the 25th anniversary.

This timeline thing sure is confusing. Gotta revise my theory though, when I have time for it. There must be more dents in this road.

I'm also sure that most events lead back to 1952. Thought I had everything and the majority led back to '52 and not '51 and most certainly not to 1950.

QUOTE
The game MacGyver refers to in Thin Ice took place in February before his birthday. He was 9 years old when he watched that game, so the birthday he had in 1960 would have actually been his 10th birthday (not his 9th) so that puts his birth-year back to 1951.

Mac said 8 when the medal was brought back home.

Mac's born in 1952. Becomes 1 in 1953, 2 in 1954, 3 in 1955, 4 in 1956, 5 in 1957, 6 in 1958, 7 in 1959, 8 in 1960. Actually he should've said 7 if it took place before his birthday, so he's referring to the age he was getting to. I just became 22 but if someone asks me how old I was 2009, I'd answer 23.

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 15 November 2008 - 02:00 PM
*has flashbacks of the Y2K debate* headbutt.gif

the exact quote from the episode is..

"I was eight years old and I can still remember him bringing home that medal."

So it's a little ambiguous, although I think most people would have said the age they where when it happened, not the age they would be after the event. Especially something which was an important turning point in their life, which that event was for MacGyver.


Posted by: SHEILA 1 August 2009 - 10:17 AM
I was looking at the timeline today and noticed that you had Mac graduteing High School in 1970 not 1968. hmm.bmp In the epo with his ex-girlfriend he said it 1968. I also found another job Mac did in college. He was an usher at Mets Staduim. That was in the baseball epo.

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 1 August 2009 - 03:03 PM
You've actually raised this http://www.macgyveronline.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2814&view=findpost&p=46330 where you mentioned about the end of Jerico Games which has the yearbook showing 1968. My question here though, is this.. Do you only get a yearbook in your last year or do you get one at the end of each year? If it's the end of each year, how do we know that was his last year? Is there any mention in the episode about it being their last year at high school, or maybe Ellen leaving or something?

Which episode are you talking about with MacGyver's girlfriend? If that says they left high school in 1968, then we have two episodes telling us the same thing and therefore providing (one of the few threads of) consistency for the timeline.

Posted by: SHEILA 1 August 2009 - 03:49 PM
It is the Jerico epo I was talking about that had his ex grilfriend in it. I always thought it was his last year of school becase he said he was 18 years old when Mac dated Ellen and then he broke up with her.

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 1 August 2009 - 04:06 PM
but it doesn't say how long they went together.

The comment written in the year book "Everybody says we're the prefect couple." indicates that they were still together when that was written. There was no indication in that episode that they actually broke up in 1968. The only thing said about it is when MacGyver says that they were 18 year olds when they broke up.

It sounds fairly plausible to me that he could have meet her in 1968 (as 16 year olds), they went together for a couple of years and then broke up in their last year, or even after graduating at the age of 18.

Posted by: WhatMeWorry? 23 October 2010 - 09:26 AM
2006- MacGyver is tied to chair in an abandoned factory. He manages to escape from the chair and zip-line down to the ground. He then hot-wires a truck using a paper clip, ballpoint pen, rubber band, tweezers, nasal spray and a turkey baster.

(The 2006 Mastercard Superbowl commercial) I consider it cannon. Why not?

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 23 October 2010 - 05:42 PM
Maybe a better question would be why do you think it needs to be in the time-line? It's not really a major life event is it?






Posted by: WhatMeWorry? 24 October 2010 - 06:42 AM
QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 24 October 2010 - 01:45 PM)
Maybe a better question would be why do you think it needs to be in the time-line? It's not really a major life event is it?

Yeah, I suppose you are right. It is more of a significant moment in shows legacy, not for the character of MacGyver. It's just everyday for him.

Posted by: MDBfan 23 June 2013 - 12:34 PM
ohmy.gif MacGyver met Murdoc (for the first time) on his birthday??

Posted by: AussieMacFan 23 June 2013 - 10:41 PM
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Happy Birthday Mac, you got a psycho with a lifetime guarantee...

Posted by: YopeGyver 24 June 2013 - 06:33 AM
QUOTE (AussieMacFan @ 24 June 2013 - 01:41 AM)
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Happy Birthday Mac, you got a psycho with a lifetime guarantee...

BWAHAHAHA!!! roller.gif

Posted by: MDBfan 24 June 2013 - 11:06 AM
QUOTE (AussieMacFan @ 24 June 2013 - 06:41 PM)
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Happy Birthday Mac, you got a psycho with a lifetime guarantee...


Laughing Out Very Loud!

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Posted by: KiwiTek 24 June 2013 - 04:03 PM
I never even noticed that before!!

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Posted by: MacGyverGod 25 June 2013 - 02:50 AM
Hahahaha! roller.gif
Um, what? unsure.gif
Mmm? hmm.bmp

Guys, I think this is incorrect. Why is that even saying March 23 1980? Is there any indication to that date? Any dates mentioned in the episode? Because that would also mean Mac met Pete on his birthday? A best friend and an arch-nemesis as a birthday present?

Wasn't that supposed to be March 2 1980? The airdate of the episode is March 2 1987? And it was the seventh anniversary. I think that makes more sense.

But what does deserve a mention is that Bushmaster was aired on March 23.
Though maybe not exactly something to place it on the timeline because it wouldn't make sense. This would fit more in the trivia section because this would probably mean that Bushmaster was aired on the moment Friends was being filmed. So if Mac wasn't kidnapped to his birthday party and stayed home watching some television the odds were very great that he would see himself on his latest adventure on television while zapping. biggrin.gif

Interesting though that this is the case. The resignation letter reads March 23 1987. So we can say it was filmed that day and that about two weeks later on April 6, it was being aired. So the episodes were really brand new and hot from the truck when aired.

And if you look at those airdates interesting how mostly an episode was aired weekly, sometimes every two weeks and as I saw just now every three weeks. There are like three weeks in between between Friends and D.O.A. MacGyver. How could you guys even keep track in those days?

But back to the meeting date. I don't think Mac met Pete and Murdoc on his birthday in 1980. Because it wouldn't have been seven years than. If it was Partners was set like three weeks into the future. Nice way to celebrate one though but no, I don't buy it.

Posted by: MDBfan 25 June 2013 - 04:00 AM
Oops..I forgot about "Friends". doh.gif
It's good you are here to explain things MacGyverGod! smile.gif

Yes, I wonder why someone assumed the date for "Partners" to be March 23. I just checked the newspaper Pete found in the cab, looking for a clue, but that was an old one; obituary for someone who passed away in 1964!

Posted by: AussieMacFan 9 July 2013 - 01:44 AM
QUOTE (MDBfan @ 25 June 2013 - 10:00 PM)
Oops..I forgot about "Friends". doh.gif
It's good you are here to explain things MacGyverGod! smile.gif

Yes, I wonder why someone assumed the date for "Partners" to be March 23. I just checked the newspaper Pete found in the cab, looking for a clue, but that was an old one; obituary for someone who passed away in 1964!

Actually, I just figured that out, just before I read these posts...

I noticed the obituary ages ago, I've been meaning to post about it. biggrin.gif

Posted by: AussieMacFan 9 July 2013 - 01:48 AM
Oh, and thank you all, for finding my post so amusing. *bows*

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 24 March 2017 - 03:44 AM
In The Lost Amadeus MacGyver says he's 39. That episode aired in 1990 which means he was born in 1951 not 1952. hmm.bmp





Posted by: MacGyverGod 24 March 2017 - 04:54 AM
And Penny is born February 20 1962 and not October 31 1963. hmm.bmp

RDA was 39 at the time of the filming if this episode was filmed before January 23. Yet even than it would make sense since this episode aired March 19, four days before Mac's birthday.

I think most writers had to start from scratch and did it with what they had. I don't think writers were allowed to hit the archives and watch old episodes to avoid inconsistencies or else we wouldn't have had this many. With this Paul Margolis created his second inconsistency. In Black Rhino he caused a big one since Pete mentions they hired Frank and Jesse once to find Ladysmith a couple of years before, which is totally impossible since Pete met Frank only a few weeks before during the Black Corsage and Mac met Jesse only earlier that year when they were looking for Jack's mother. If what Pete says is true Ma Dalton and Black Corsage (another Paul Margolis written episode) doesn't make sense anymore because MacGyver met Jesse for the first time in Ma Dalton and Pete first heard of Frank in Black Corsage.

The whole Colton thing doesn't make much sense either. Billy's only family were his brothers and Mac according to Pete while in Squeeze Play they suddenly have a mother. I mean go figure. doh.gif

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