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Wan due to a scheduling conflict is not directing the pilot however he WILL direct an episode down the line.

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I have a bit of faith in Ancken as he is a good director and rightfully suited for these genres.



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Good!!

I have absolutely ZERO faith in Wan's ideas about MacGyver.




 
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one thing I feel I want to point out things can change within the context of a show


Lets talk about Arrow In the first season he wasn't even called Green arrow heck he said that name was lame in the pilot. he was reffered to as The hood. but as people who love the comic books started to become writers on the show the show went more comic bookie and it worked. in season 4 he is now Green Arrow.

Why do I bring this up the character descriptions and Wan's idea may not be anyone's interpretation of classic MacGyver BUT maybe thing will evolve to get to that point by season 2 (assuming it lasts that long) Mac could be at Phoenix foundation working for Peter Thornton with Jack Dalton as his friend and Murdoc as hi enemy it might just take us a season to get to that.


As for me I am hopeful and a little excited MacGyver is a franchise I have long felt should of had the grounded gritty reboot for at least a decade now (honestly I wish Paramount had funded a real MacGyver movie in 1994 with RDA and developed their own spy franchise with 90's having RDA in say 3 feature length films then 3 with Paladacki taking over the role and say 3 going on 4 with Renner as Mac but oh well)

my guess is the principal cast including Mac himself will be announced throughout the next week and half and honestly I am kind of excited.

Sure I am seeing all the "why does Hollywood keep doing remakes now" which makes me laugh (fun fact when the Wizard of Oz was up for an Oscar it was going against 3 remakes and 4 adaptions if I remember correctly and we have had a few Faux MacGyver shows in the past few years Intelligence, The Player etc it's nice to have the real McCoy back)

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Most remakes of the past from the 90's and earlier seem to have had a bit of thought brought into them (The Fly, The Thing, Little Shop of Horrors, Nutty Professor, Invasion of the Body Snatchers). The majority of motion pictures and TV shows nowadays are reboots and remakes. Its a little concerning that the new generation aren't coming up with original ideas anymore. And even a lot of new shows that are original are just not up to the standards of classic entertainment either.

It can bother anyone because MacGyver for instance was a Premium grade A TV show when it first aired. It got prime time schedules too (On a world wide basis). I get the feeling that the new show will be like what Knight Rider 2008 was. Evolution was a no brainer. Starting off MacGyver on unfamiliar ground and moving him to what we all know but here's the thing.. It's a tough market out there. If they don't grab your attention in the pilot, they've lost the audience. MacGyver (1985)'s pilot was phenomenal. And we all knew we were glued to our screens.

Will MacGyver (2016) do the same?



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QUOTE (denizen @ 10 March 2016 - 09:51 AM)
Most remakes of the past from the 90's and earlier seem to have had a bit of thought brought into them (The Fly, The Thing, Little Shop of Horrors, Nutty Professor, Invasion of the Body Snatchers). The majority of motion pictures and TV shows nowadays are reboots and remakes. Its a little concerning that the new generation aren't coming up with original ideas anymore. And even a lot of new shows that are original are just not up to the standards of classic entertainment either.

It can bother anyone because MacGyver for instance was a Premium grade A TV show when it first aired. It got prime time schedules too (On a world wide basis). I get the feeling that the new show will be like what Knight Rider 2008 was. Evolution was a no brainer. Starting off MacGyver on unfamiliar ground and moving him to what we all know but here's the thing.. It's a tough market out there. If they don't grab your attention in the pilot, they've lost the audience. MacGyver (1985)'s pilot was phenomenal. And we all knew we were glued to our screens.

Will MacGyver (2016) do the same?

My hope is yes.

and some modern day reboots have worked

Hawaii 5-0 for example which was also rebooted by CBS....


Honestly if they use that show as the example I think we could be in for something good.



 
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Well the Hawaii Five 0 case is an interesting one for sure. I never watched the original show, so I can't compare both of course, and about the recent version I'm not what you could say a "big fan". I occasionally watch an episode or two every now and then, and it doesn't look bad I guess. One plus is that they shoot the series in Hawaii for real, it's not Los Angeles doubling for Miami ( biggrin.gif ). The cast is cool and have good chemistry between them, the production levels seem really competent and has cool action also. The show is now with 5 or 6 seasons I'm not sure, so the audiences are there and enjoy it.


So since CBS is home for both shows, maybe the MacGyver reboot can be good, who knows. sakopen.gif



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I'd watched the original Hawaii 5-0, and have to say that the new show was even better in some ways. I agree with you Denizen....if the pilot doesn't grab the audience, then it will be a long, tough road to make the show fly. I think that just the name MacGyver should bring an audience to the screen. It's just keeping us there what will be the trick. 5-0 really would be a great role model to follow.



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5-0 is a great example, I agree. I saw the original too for years and agree that the reboot has some advantages over the original but also, the developers of the rebooted series are all JJ. Abrams' team. You got guys like Alex Kurtzman & Robert Orci helming the project. So far their reboots have all worked (They also rebooted Star Trek).

How many movies or shows has Wan rebooted? Hmm.... hmm.bmp

If Abrams & his team were behind MacGyver, I would pretty much say, rest assured, its going to be awesome. But they're not.

Still! Enough with the negativity. Macgyver12186 has a valid point. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt. They will need as much support as possible if this project is going to fly.



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They also have their lesser projects but indeed I always wanted JJ Abrams too because of them I began to like Star Trek.



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QUOTE (denizen @ 11 March 2016 - 04:06 AM)
Let's give them the benefit of the doubt. They will need as much support as possible if this project is going to fly.

That's what I'm thinking at the moment, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and wait to watch 2 or 3 episodes to see if it's worth it or not.



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QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ 11 March 2016 - 11:16 PM)
I always wanted JJ Abrams too because of them I began to like Star Trek.

The problem with that though, is that the movies he made were nothing like the Star Trek TV shows.

If you want a movie with non stop explosions and blinding bright lights with no cohesive story to tie any of it together, then Abrams is your man.

If you want something that stays true to MacGyver values and character, keep Abrams the hell away from it.




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Abrams and his team were never going for the TV show look of Star Trek. They were requested to reboot everything from scratch.

Their team try to work as close as possible to the original concepts of the original ideas presented in every project and they generally do a good job. But at the end of the day, a reboot is a reboot. You're either going to like it or you're not.

I believe they would have been true to the nature of Mac had they been behind the project.

In all this though, I have yet to hear what Zlotoff thinks of the reboot. Didn't he reject all past plans to reboot Mac? Why is he game all of a sudden? Surely he approves. He does, after all, own MacGyver.



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Zlotoff is indeed an exec producer on this show.

Again Reboots are reboots Casino Royale Batman Begins etc played around with the characters history and origin as well.. (Case in point even in terms of Casino Royale the novel if I remember correctly was not bond's fist assignment and in terms of Batman Begins in the comic he didn't meet Ra'z Al Ghul till he was batman for at least 10 years...)

and again with a show you have a chance to develop the mythology and get either closer or further from the source material though the same can be vaguely true about film franchises.

Mission Impossible is basically a slap in the face to fans of the show as is 2 3 is when it gets closer same with 4 and well 5 the best of the films is in my opinion closest to the show.


like I said we know about a few changes to the character but still in re reading Mac's character description it's NOT THAT different from mac in 1985.

Mac did work in the military as bomb removal squad and while it isn't explained in the original show Sighting College loans isn't that far fetched considering Harry Jackson and Mary MacGyver weren't exactly rich more then likely Mac had a few student loans he had to pay off. Even Mac being a slight conspiracy nut isn't too far fetched heck he was willing to believe in Big Foot in Ghost ship Dealt with Brainwashing UFo's etc Mac I believe was the kind of person who was respectful of others beliefs and did his best to explain the unexplainable but when he couldn't well... he was ok with it being unexplainable. Even the Addition of people not in the original show like Lincoln I am ok with specifically Lincoln (though I hope they don't do something stupid and make Lincoln peter Thorton's middle name) because Pete could be introduced later on same with Jack Dalton Murdoc Penny etc as none of them were in the pilot and some of them like Jack weren't even the show till season 2.


Right now in march 11th 2016 I only have 2 issues,

1. the friend and the former love interest sub plot I find both annoying clichéd and am praying they are in the pilot and gone by episode 2 (they could cast Caity Lotz as the former high school sweat heart and I would still feel the same way)

2. the Hero's remorse thing feels Very over done and not needed.


But Like I said I love the idea of a reboot and I am willing to take the good and the bad and willing to give MacGyver 2016 a fair shake. 3 episodes at least and then I will determine if it's for me or not. I sat through three episodes of Gotham before I realized the show wasn't for me I can sit through three for Mac lol.

like I said it's an exciting and nerve wrecking time to be a MacGyver fan I will feel a bit of relief when I see who is playing Mac (hoping now for Hunter Parrish the guy looks like RDA though I haven't seen him in anything)



 
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Small changes to character, meeting dates etc is fine. This pilot has gaping big holes of discrepancies.

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Was in the army with MacGyver's father and tried multiple times to rescue him from the Mazari without success.

How does this tie in with MacGyver's father being killed in a car crash when Mac was 10? This description makes it sound like his father is still captured, or died in captivity. The death of Macs father is discussed at length in the Runners episode and shown to be one of his major character forming events in his life. He's always running into rescue people because he couldn't run in to rescue his father.

That's the kind of thing you can't - or shouldn't - play with in a reboot and one of the signs that worries me.

I'm afraid I'm in the camp of thinking they should be continuing the already established franchise, not rebooting it.



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I'm sort of with Kiwi on this.



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Remember Wan's infamous idea. He is re-imagining the MacGyver franchise. That means he can now change the original past so it carries no bearing on the original.

Not saying that everyone likes what they are doing. But I get where he is coming from.



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QUOTE (KiwiTek @ 11 March 2016 - 06:36 PM)
Small changes to character, meeting dates etc is fine. This pilot has gaping big holes of discrepancies.

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Was in the army with MacGyver's father and tried multiple times to rescue him from the Mazari without success.

How does this tie in with MacGyver's father being killed in a car crash when Mac was 10? This description makes it sound like his father is still captured, or died in captivity. The death of Macs father is discussed at length in the Runners episode and shown to be one of his major character forming events in his life. He's always running into rescue people because he couldn't run in to rescue his father.

That's the kind of thing you can't - or shouldn't - play with in a reboot and one of the signs that worries me.

I'm afraid I'm in the camp of thinking they should be continuing the already established franchise, not rebooting it.

playing devil's advocate as I feel I will be doing until either the casting of the new mac (if they go for a controversial choice I am out) or the pilot..

If I remember correctly apart from James MacGyver dieing and giving his son a strange first name he hated we know vbery little about the man. HE could of been in the military and friends of Lincoln and then died. like I said if I am reading it right Lincoln is a friend of Mac's Dad (who in the new series could of died when mac was a kid) and tried to save mac himself.


Again while I know the reboot won't win everyone over (and I agree they are taking more liberties then Wilson/Broccoli did in Royale) it could still work and develop into something way more recognizable. by Season 2 we could have Mac Pete Jack the phoenix foundation etc.

we shall see but for now I am hopefull



 
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