I've highlighted the episodes which he hasn't been able to see, due to them not being available on the CBS site. So if anyone else is able to identify the SAKs used in those episode let me know and I'll update the list.
Nice work MacDriver.
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| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 13 August 2008 - 02:00 PM |
| https://www.macgyveronline.com/macgyververse/equipmenttech/saks-used-in-each-episode/. I've highlighted the episodes which he hasn't been able to see, due to them not being available on the CBS site. So if anyone else is able to identify the SAKs used in those episode let me know and I'll update the list. Nice work MacDriver. |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 13 August 2008 - 02:07 PM |
Whoa!  To me a SAK is a SAK.  That I mean, red with mostly a Swiss cross on it. Colors can differ from the knives. Really looking at the brand of the knife? It could be possible that the knives he uses differ from the number of functions. The one he used in Serenity seemed only to have 4 or 5 of them, while others could've had more. And of course that little chain in The Gauntlet. |
| Posted by: Braddock 13 August 2008 - 04:26 PM |
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| Posted by: MacDriver 13 August 2008 - 10:17 PM |
| Rock, you're awesome! That looks great! Thanks for getting that posted. |
| Posted by: Makoto 8 September 2008 - 02:25 AM | ||
| From My list: Last Stand / Executive A Prisoner of Conscience / Climber The Eraser / Standard Three For the Road / Camper and Climber Soft Touch / no knife Partners / not clear Black Rhino / no knife The Madonna / no knife Log Jam / no knife Deep Cover / not clear The Lost Amadeus / no knife Hearts of Steel / no knife Rush to Judgement / 2 layer Bitter Harvest / 2 layer Jerico Games / no knife Eye of Osiris / 2 layer High Control / Spartan The 'Hood / not clear The Stringer / Swiss Style Army knife ? LOST TREASURE OF ATLANTIS / Super Tinker TRAIL TO DOOMSDAY / no knife And several years ago, I saw a list in lost MacGyver homepage (perhaps in 2001 ?).
Especially, I want to know the knife used in "The Stringer"!!! |
| Posted by: MacDriver 8 September 2008 - 09:40 PM |
| Thanks for sharing that! That sounds like insider info, I'd be interested in knowing where that list came from. Where did Mac use a knife in Last Stand? I seem to remember watching that episode and not seeing one in it. |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 8 September 2008 - 11:01 PM | ||
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| Posted by: MacDriver 9 September 2008 - 02:17 PM |
| nice! And that's definitely an executive. |
| Posted by: MacBeth 9 September 2008 - 07:19 PM |
| MacDriver, what happened to your avatar icon? It's missing. |
| Posted by: MacDriver 10 September 2008 - 11:38 AM |
| Yeah, every time I fix it it's fine for a while and then back to the question mark. Whatever. Another episode not online is the Rush to Judgment episode, and I've only seen it once like 8 years ago. I remember he picks the lock on the coke machine with his SAK, but can anyone make out features of the knife? Bleh, I just need to wait until I have the money to buy the complete series and finish the list, too bad you can't purchase individual episodes online or anything. |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 10 September 2008 - 01:03 PM |
| http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/store.html#download |
| Posted by: krist 12 September 2008 - 07:37 AM |
| this model is like the standart?? (spartan model without tweezers & toothpick), ?? What do you think? |
| Posted by: Braddock 12 September 2008 - 12:42 PM |
| could it be a 111mm model? |
| Posted by: Makoto 12 September 2008 - 05:51 PM |
It is very interesting to discuss about MacGyver knife in each episode.  First, I think that the knife used in the Rush to Judgment is 2 layer knife. But, I agree with krist about it. It seems no key ring, so it may be Standard model. |
| Posted by: MacDriver 13 September 2008 - 12:02 AM |
That would be my consensus. You're right about the keyring thing. It's definitely a 2 layer and bigger than the Executive. We'll go with Standard for that one.  |
| Posted by: Makoto 13 September 2008 - 03:36 AM |
| In "THREE FOR THE ROAD" MacGyver first used Camper model. When MacGyver removed a screw of a (convertible) top, a "CAMPING" mark can be seen. Then MacGyver used scissors, this model is Climber. So, MacGyver carries Camper and Climber in "THREE FOR THE ROAD".  |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 13 September 2008 - 04:11 AM |
| I've just updated the http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/saks.html with that information. |
| Posted by: Makoto 14 September 2008 - 09:39 PM |
I thank Rockatteer and MacDriver for making the list.  So, someday I want to complete the list. |
| Posted by: MacDriver 22 September 2008 - 01:27 PM | ||
rofl  . Seriously, I think it is painfully obvious that they just tossed him a random knife at the beginning of any said scene. I'm sure it was "supposed" to be the same knife throughout, but was really happened Im sure is they filmed on two separate days or took a break or something, and picked another knife at random when filming resumed. So, do we conclude MacGyver carries 2 full size SAKs on him some days, or that he pulled one out of his luggage?EDIT: As often as something happened to his SAK, he could've justified carrying a backup  |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 22 September 2008 - 01:58 PM |
| True, but you missed out the point that there where times when they would have given him a specific knife because of the tool he needed to use in the scene they where filming. |
| Posted by: MacBeth 22 September 2008 - 08:05 PM | ||
I actually used that idea in "Phoenix Rising" -- and had Mac grumbling because his backup knife was missing one of his preferred blades, and hadn't been sharpened recently. I figured he'd keep a backup in his Jeep. That's terrific work on the list! |
| Posted by: MacDriver 22 September 2008 - 10:39 PM | ||
Yeah, they definitely did that a lot. In Three for the Road though, it was kinda unnecessary, he never needed the Camper for the saw, so he could've just used a climber for the whole episode and been fine. Sometimes I think I need psychological help for the way I obsess over the SAK phenomenon in MacGyver   |
| Posted by: Makoto 25 September 2008 - 01:12 AM |
| MacGyver often takes 3 or 4 layer knife, but he doesn't use all functions. I wonder why MacGyver takes a Huntsman, Fieldmaster, Deluxe Tinker model.  In "Young MacGyver Pilot", Clay MacGyver takes a Swiss Champ or Champion Plus model, these are 7 or 8 layer knives!!! Is it necessary for him to take a many layer knife? (He used a Magnifying glass, so it is enough to use a Explorer model.) And does anyone know a knife called "Hunter Knife By Buffaloe" seen in "The Stringer"?  I have studied about it, but I can not find it.  Please tell me. |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 25 September 2008 - 02:21 AM |
| when is the Hunter Knife By Buffalo seen in The Stringer? |
| Posted by: MacDriver 25 September 2008 - 11:33 AM |
| Well, I am not going to discount that it is somewhat accurate, but that list seems a little shady- I never saw a deluxe Tinker, and some of the other knives on that list. Granted, there are two or three episodes that I managed to miss during syndication, but for the most part, I think that list has a couple of errors. As for that Buffalo knife, that I do actually believe. I took a stillshot of the knife in the stringer, and it looks like a Ranger, BUT, after showing it to my SAK collector forum, everyone agreed that the backsprings do not lay the way Wenger or Victorinox springs do, and also that the position of the metal saw blade was off in terms of what layer it should have been folded out of. Finally, the shape of the blade itself is a dead giveaway that it was not Vic or Wenger. I suspected it was a different brand, so if anyone could find out about that it would be fantastic. I just called it a Ranger to save confusion on the list, I figured no one would ever notice  |
| Posted by: Makoto 25 September 2008 - 06:18 PM | ||
| As Deluxe Tinker, it may be used in "Jack of Lies". In this episode, MacGyver used a 4 layer knife with Phillips screwdriver and no fish (Fisherman model) or classic car (Grand Prix model) mark. So I think that MacGyver may use a Deluxe Tinker or Fieldmaster model. And in "For Love or Money" MacGyver used a 4 layer knife with corkscrew, it may be an Angler, Explorer, Huntsman, or Mountaineer model. In "The Stringer" MacGyver and SAM used a knife, it is 5 layer with large blade, tweezers, and saw to cut a flare gun shell. I doubt it is a Hunter Knife by Buffaloe. I have never heard such a brand in Japan.
Yes, so I think the knife may be such a Swiss Style Army Knife as this ebay auction item. http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Multi-Purpose-Knife-in-Box-Pocket-Tool-Germany_W0QQitemZ250293878421QQihZ015QQcategoryZ43335QQtcZphotoQQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem It is hard to think MacGyver uses such a non-brand knife. But several years ago, I bought a MacGyver 100th Episode knife, like this Vintage-Multi-Purpose-Knife (without toothpick, tweezers) in ebay auction.  |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 25 September 2008 - 07:41 PM |
| what part of the episode do we see this knife? |
| Posted by: Makoto 25 September 2008 - 07:54 PM | ||
When SAM cut through a flare gun shell with a metal saw (- Sent a smoke shell down a funnel for a distraction), you can see the knife. It is neither Victorinox nor Wenger. |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 25 September 2008 - 08:14 PM |
| anyone else notice that MacGyver throws the knife to SAM while they're making their water jets, but then we see him cutting something with a knife... then when they up on deck SAM pulls the knife out of his pocket to cut the shell open. It looked like they both had a knife |
| Posted by: Makoto 25 September 2008 - 09:22 PM |
I thought MacGyver gave a knife to SAM.  |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 25 September 2008 - 10:02 PM |
| He did.. but then we see him using one as well |
| Posted by: Makoto 25 September 2008 - 10:25 PM | ||
Really? Did SAM return a knife to MacGyver? I try to see "The Stringer" again tonight. |
| Posted by: MacDriver 26 September 2008 - 01:11 AM | ||||
Nice work!!!!! That's EXACTLY what it is! An early Chinese knockoff. Who would have thought? And you're right on all those counts, I originally thought it had to be a Fieldmaster in Jack of Lies, but the Deluxe Tinker fits the 4 layer/phillips criteria. Any still shots from the runway scene where he cuts them loose with it? Oh, by the way- we are faced with a serious decision to make, MOL. MacGyver, THE MacGyver, after years of carrying genuine Swiss Army Knives, used a Chinese knockoff in the final episode. Normally, I keep Wiki updated with my latest tidbits on Mac's knife, but this is serious. Do we really want to fuel what is already a booming industry of inferior knife sales? Or do we provide 100% fact and let the reader judge? By the way, the cost of production for the Chinese Army Knives is $.12 a peice. Yes, as in twelve cents each. |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 26 September 2008 - 01:18 AM |
| I'd like to know what on earth possessed them to use one of "those" knives. Was it somethign to do with the Chinese angle of the episode? Using cheap Chinese products which where probably made in the very kind of sweat factory we see the main characters disgusted by in the episode, seems a touch hypocritical to me. |
| Posted by: MacDriver 26 September 2008 - 08:24 AM |
| Wow, good point, I totally forgot the context of the episode too. Holy Cow. |
| Posted by: MacDriver 26 September 2008 - 08:30 AM |
| Oh man, I could be really terrible and say this was the first sign MacGyver was going to be a dead beat dad - he gave him a cheapo that was $4 instead of a real SAK. But we know he wasn't so that's really not that funny... |
| Posted by: Makoto 26 September 2008 - 06:45 PM |
| Last night I watched "The Stringer" episode, it is really that MacGyver cut a cord after MacGyver gave a knife to SAM. But it is very difficult to think MacGyver had 2 knives or both MacGyver and SAM had each knife. In this situation it is natural to think that MacGyver gave SAM a knife, then SAM returned the knife to MacGyver to cut a cord, soon MacGyver gave it to SAM again . So the knife used in "The Stringer" is only one knife, I think. Well... I think the reason why a Chinese knockoff was used in the final episode (if MacGyver exactly used a Chinese knockoff) : On the occasion of MacGyver's 100th episode, "MacGyver 100th Episode" knife was made from a Chinese knockoff without toothpick & tweezers. Final episode is very memorial, so an original Chinese knockoff is used instead of "MacGyver 100th Episode" knife. Or to reduce overhead? In addition, Worker model in my mysterious list perhaps means now retired Victorinox Recruit Economy Knife. The Victorinox Recruit Economy Swiss Army knife is a simpler version of the popular Recruit pocket knife-- it has the same blades, but no toothpick or tweezers. |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 26 September 2008 - 06:59 PM | ||
oh man.. yeah you could lose your SAK carrying privileges for saying things like that |
| Posted by: Makoto 28 September 2008 - 01:19 AM |
Sorry, I may make mistakes, I don't know when each SAK model was manufactured for the first time.  By the way, when SAM uses a knife, it seems there is no Toothpick or Tweezers in left side hole. MacGyver may lose it. I think the knife used in "LOST TREASURE OF ATLANTIS" is a Hiker or Super Tinker model, 3 layer with Phillips Head Screwdriver. |
| Posted by: MacDriver 28 September 2008 - 02:27 PM | ||
Honestly, 1985-present is about the same for the 84mm and 91mm which is what MacGyver used. The only ones that have come and gone are the Standard and Weekender. All the cyber tools are recent, obviously. This site is pretty helpful: http://www.smartknives.com/Knife-Directories/91mm-2ly-Victorinox-knives.html Many companies have put their name on the Chinese multiblades, I wonder if Buffalo was one such company. It said in that listing though that it was German. Weird. |
| Posted by: Makoto 28 September 2008 - 11:55 PM | ||
MacDriver, thanks for providing the information. But I saw http://www.sosakonline.com/images/stories/Catalogue/Victorinox_1985.pdf. I have some questions. There is not Deluxe Tinker, and Tinker size is 84mm and so on. As for Buffalo, I think you are right. I don't know about Chinese knife. I only watched it in ebay auction. Is it different from http://www.amazon.com/Royal-Crest-Camper-16-Function-Knife/dp/B0017RKDYS? And is it impossible to find out which bland knife used in "The Stringer"? I'm very glad to see you, because almost every MacGyver knife can be identified. I have studied about it for about 10 years. But I have not found out the knife used in "The Stringer". Thanks MacDriver and MOL!!! |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 29 September 2008 - 12:07 AM |
| I can't remember which post this was for, so I'll post it here. |
| Posted by: Makoto 29 September 2008 - 12:39 AM | ||
This is a 111mm Adventurer or Picnicker model in "Harry's Will".  |
| Posted by: MacDriver 3 October 2008 - 08:12 PM |
| Yeah, it is different, that knife has a large-tooth wood saw instead of a metal saw. A metal saw has fine teeth on it, like what Mac was using. I am very familiar with the Chinese knockoffs, that's why it was surprising to see that on the older ones that saw blade was present. But blade for blade, it is the exact same format save for that one blade. There has to be someone from the old cast/crew we could contact about it, or someone at Victorinox. And see, I was reluctant to add it to MacGyver's wikipedia for this reason: I tipped off Vic that Zlotoff was talking about having Mac use a Leatherman. So, Victorinox is compelled to keep the Mac/Victorinox affiliation intact. BUT, it might damage that relationship a little if Vic finds out Mac was in bed with the Chinese at the end. Hopefully I am reading way too into that, and there is no problem with that. |
| Posted by: Makoto 4 October 2008 - 11:34 PM |
| Exactly! I have looked for a Swiss Style Army knife like used in "The Stringer" for a long time. But I could get 3 type knives in ebay auction. 1st is no mark, 2nd has a cross in circle, 3rd has a shield mark. Each knife is written "stainless china" on large blade. All Swiss Style Army knives now I can find out have not a metal saw but a wood saw. Where can we get the Chinese knockoffs? And there are other Chinese stories like "The Wish Child", "Murderer's Sky", and "Children of Light", but Chinese knife is not used. As MacGyver Wiki, I want you to add about a 111mm knife too. In Japan, MacGyver DVDs are sold from 1 to 5 season yet. So I have examined a MacGyve knife used in these 5 seasons. |
| Posted by: Makoto 12 October 2008 - 01:01 AM |
| In "Hell Week", "Early Retirement" and "The Spoilers" it seems that MacGyver uses a Recruit Economy model. And I found out a MacGyver 100th Episode Knife in "MacGyver Land" site. http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/100thsak.html It looks like the Chinese knockoffs. |
| Posted by: MacDriver 13 October 2008 - 11:43 PM |
 Makato, you are amazing! I am positive that is what was used. You are THE MAN!!!! I will add all of the info about the anniversary knife and the 111mm to wikipedia after midterms this week Thank you so much for all the research you've done, I have no idea how you found it all, and so fast! Although I hear you get better internet in Japan than we do here |
| Posted by: lucky charley 14 October 2008 - 11:34 AM |
| did MacGyver ever use a swiss champ |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 14 October 2008 - 11:48 AM | ||
Take a look at the http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/saks.html  |
| Posted by: Makoto 15 October 2008 - 01:08 AM | ||
MacGyver did not use a Swiss Champ model, but in "Young MacGyver" it seems that Clay MacGyver uses a Swiss Champ or Champion Plus model. By the way, MacDriver, can you watch "LOST TREASURE OF ATLANTIS" ? I want to listen to your opinion, of course, about a knife used by MacGyver. It seems a Super Tinker or Hiker model. As MacGyver 100th Episode Knife, I saw it in ebay auction by chance in 2001 for the first time. It seemed that it is a product for MacGyver staff and crew. |
| Posted by: Makoto 16 October 2008 - 03:17 AM | ||
Below is a description of MacGyver 100th Episode knife on ebay auction from my saved data.
I examined "BARLOW". The Panther Pocketknife is very similar to MacGyver 100th Episode Swiss Army Knife. http://www.barlow-knives.com/logo/knives/barlow/20197%20Panther%20Pocketknife.htm MacGyver 100th Episode Swiss Army Knife might be made from BARLOW Panther Pocketknife with Logo. So, I think the knife used in "The Stringer" may be not a Hunter knife -by Buffaloe but a Panther Pocketknife by Barlow. But Panther Pocketknife by Barlow has no toothpick or tweezers, and has not a metal saw but a wood saw. The knife is still cloaked in mystery. |
| Posted by: MacDriver 20 October 2008 - 02:46 PM |
| Alright, now that mid-terms are over I got a chance to update wiki with the 111mm info and info about the 100th anniversary piece or irony. |
| Posted by: Makoto 23 October 2008 - 01:31 AM |
| Thank MacDriver for your work!!! MacGyver used over 10 knives throughout the show. There are some knives used only once, very interesting. |
| Posted by: MacDriver 24 October 2008 - 09:53 AM |
| Yeah, he used a LOT. We have: 1) Tinker Small 2) Tinker Large 3) Sportsman 4) Compact 5) Recruit 6) Spartan 7) Farmer 8) Huntsman 9) Executive 10) Super Tinker 11) Camper 12) 111mm (Picnicker?) 13) Climber 14) Standard 15) Weekender 16) Fieldmaster 17) Promotional Climber w/reverse shield 18) Tourist 19) Wenger Handyman 20) 100th Episode Anniversary Knife Wow, I hadn't ever thought to add up just the knife names. If you bought all of them at retail it would be hundreds of dollars. I think Mac might've had a problem more serious than Lisa Woodman's addiction |
| Posted by: Makoto 25 October 2008 - 01:07 AM |
| 20 knives !? Too many!!! I read other topic. http://www.macgyveronline.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4707 MacGyver seems to collect SAKs. But there is a trend what SAKs are used in each season. |
| Posted by: Makoto 7 November 2008 - 11:14 PM |
| In "Eagles" it seems MacGyver uses a Climber model. Darin Cooper seems to use 3 layer model, and Susan Cooper seems to return MacGyver a knife with Corkscrew.  |
| Posted by: Makoto 13 November 2008 - 01:18 AM |
As well as "THREE FOR THE ROAD", MacGyver used 2 knives in the same scene in "THE BATTLE OF TOMMY GIORDANO". At first MacGyver used a Standard model (it has no toothpick, tweezer or key ring) to open a wall socket, next MacGyver used a 2 layer knife with tweezers to pick the door, then MacGyver used a Standard model again to connect a phone cable in other room. It is very strange.  |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 13 November 2008 - 02:39 AM | ||
AH HUH!!! She switched knives on him! that no good rotten knife switcher!!  |
| Posted by: MacDriver 13 November 2008 - 11:13 AM | ||
Nice catch! And About Lost Treasure, I am a little busy until Thanksgiving, I'll try to watch all the ones I can when I get home to faster internet. Here at this school video takes 22-3 hours to stream a 1 hour video with all the stalling to load, I guess they think college students should have better things to do than watch MacGyver reruns  |
| Posted by: Makoto 19 November 2008 - 01:34 AM |
| From my view: Slow Death / Executive & Climber The Eraser / Standard Final Approach / Spartan The Road Not Taken / Standard Eagles / Climber Soft Touch / none used Out in the Cold / 3 layer Bushmaster / none used Blood Brothers / 2 layer On a Wing and a Prayer / Standard Ma Dalton / Standard The Battle of Tommy Giordano / Standard & 2 layer with tweezers Runners / Picknicker The Invisible Killer / Picknicker Renegade / Recruit Economy |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 19 November 2008 - 02:04 AM | ||
Is there agreement on this? If so I will update the http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/saks.html |
| Posted by: Makoto 19 November 2008 - 04:22 AM |
| I examined SAKs on DVDs with a magnifying function, but there may be some mistakes. These are my opinions. So I want someone to correct if there are mistakes. |
| Posted by: Makoto 7 February 2009 - 06:09 AM |
| I've watched Season 5 on DVD. The Legend of the Holy Rose (1) / In Oening Gambit, MacGyver used a SAK, but model is not clear. The Black Corsage / Sportsman or Tourist Black Rhino / MacGyver did not use a SAK. The Madonna / MacGyver did not use a SAK. Log Jam / MacGyver did not use a SAK. Deep Cover / MacGyver used a SAK, but model is not clear. The Lost Amadeus / MacGyver did not use a SAK. Hearts of Steel / MacGyver did not use a SAK. Rush to Judgement / Standard And Partners / MacGyver used a SAK, but model is not clear. Now I'm watching Season 6 on DVD. |
| Posted by: Makoto 24 February 2009 - 09:26 PM |
| Humanity / Standard Lesson in Evil / Standard Bitter Harvest / Standard The Visitor / MacGyver used a SAK, but model is not clear. Jerico Games / MacGyver did not use a SAK. Eye of Osiris / Standard High Control / Spartan |
| Posted by: MacDriver 4 May 2009 - 04:35 AM | ||||||
Oh yeah Makoto, that piece of detective work you did was spectacular! I will vouch that he did in fact uncover irrefutable evidence that it was a non-Swiss knife used in the final episode. It was a promotional model that had been made way back years before to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the show, dozens or more were made and distributed to the staff. Despite being given 144 knives every season by Victorinox, they still apparently decided to go with having a bunch of chinese made models printed on. Which by the way, was very ironic given that episode's theme. Anyway, we need to update that list to say something like "5 layer chinese swiss-style knife" or something similar that is not such a mouth full If only we could ever find out why the final episode ended on such a sour Swiss note  Either they did it to see if anyone would notice, one of the cast asked that their previously-obtained knife be used in actual filming for bragging rights, or Anderson himself received one along with everyone else and for some reason pocketed it despite the fact that it was not real. Even worse, he claims the one "MacGyverish item" he retains after MacGyver is the knife- Yikes! I hope he doesn't keep that thing in his pocket or glove box! There's simply no way |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 4 May 2009 - 02:27 PM |
| was it an actual 100th episode knife? oh and here's salt in the wound... It seems that they did actually make a real SAK with MacGyver printed on as well as the cheap ones.   |
| Posted by: Makoto 5 May 2009 - 07:43 AM |
| I don't know whether it is an actual 100th episode knife or not. According to the description of ebay auction;MacGyver 100th Episode Swiss Army Knife "This is a unique piece of memoribilia, given to cast and crew on the TV show "MacGyver." It's a red swiss army style knife with lots of useful features, that says "MacGyver 100TH EPISODE" comes with box that says "BARLOW" on it." But MacGyver 100th Episode Swiss Army Knife does not have toothpick and tweezers. I can only say that an early Chinese knockoff is very similar to the knife used in the Stringer. Brand is not clear.  |
| Posted by: MacDriver 6 May 2009 - 08:18 AM |
| Hmmm, too bad we don't have the original link. If I hadn't just stayed up all night cramming for an exam I probably just blew, I'd have the energy to search for it. But that would be a perfect match for the 100th Episode, Mc used the Climber with the reverse logo on it (only used on promotional knives- wink wink). He used the scissors to cut wire in the cave after he did that shotgun shell lead welding job. Hopefully none of the recipients got the idea that they were made for cutting wire. Even back then models with the pliers/wirecutters were offered, Deluxe Tinker, Swiss Champ, Mechanic, etc. They had boses and boxes of free swiss knives, and no one who knew anything about them Okay, and turns out it wasn't that much work to find the thread. Unfortunately the link we had was to a ebay listing that is long expired now, but Rocky was awesome enough to get a screen shot it looks like, so here's the thread: http://www.macgyveronline.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4708&hl=stringer http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/100thsak.html Seriously, this will bug me til I die if I never find out what possessed them to use a junk knife to replace one of the show's icons for the finale.  |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 6 May 2009 - 02:02 PM |
| There's another picture in the http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/miscpictures.html too. If you look closely at the knife used in the Stringer you can see the tooth pick and hole where tweezers go.  |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 6 May 2009 - 09:32 PM |
| I've just been going these lists looking to see what needs updating on the page, and there seems to be a fair bit on contradiction between which knives where used. |
| Posted by: Makoto 6 May 2009 - 09:50 PM |
| It is very difficult to find out what knives MacGyver used in each episode completely, because there are some similar knives and retired models. We must think about the setting of the times.  That may be only a guess. |
| Posted by: Makoto 7 May 2009 - 01:04 AM |
| This is my photo for reference. http://photos.yahoo.co.jp/ph/j1200617/vwp?.dir=/7216&.src=ph&.dnm=2fa1.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.co.jp/ph/j1200617/lst%3f%26.dir=/7216%26.src=ph%26.view=t I think this is very similar to the knife used in "The Stringer". |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 7 May 2009 - 02:31 AM |
| Yes, I think your right. So what brand/kind of knife is that? |
| Posted by: Beachbead 7 May 2009 - 05:59 AM |
| i found the same one but I don't know the brand. http://pocketknifebuyersguide.com/Articles.php?action=detail&g=content1237184109 |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 7 May 2009 - 01:49 PM | ||
Thats a genuine Victorinox Swiss Army Knife. It's not the same as the one in the episode, which was a fake. |
| Posted by: Beachbead 7 May 2009 - 02:22 PM |
| I'm wondering why in the show they had fake Swiss army knifes. |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 7 May 2009 - 02:53 PM |
| as are the rest of us. |
| Posted by: Makoto 7 May 2009 - 07:13 PM | ||
Sorry, I don't know what brand it is. I bought it in ebay auction.  It is as known as Swiss Army Style Knife (Chinese knockoff). According to MacDriver, it is an early Chinese knockoff. |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 8 May 2009 - 03:13 AM |
| OK, I've just gone through and tried to update the list on our http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/saks.html Is it getting close to being as right as we can get it? |
| Posted by: Beachbead 8 May 2009 - 07:56 AM |
| looks good thus far. |
| Posted by: Makoto 8 May 2009 - 07:12 PM | ||
If you can, I want you to add TV Movies.  |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 8 May 2009 - 09:18 PM |
| done |
| Posted by: Makoto 8 May 2009 - 10:10 PM |
| Thanks a lot. In Lost Treasure of Atlantis, MacGyver used a 3 layer knife with Phillips Head Screwdriver. I don't have a DVD of 2 movies, so I can't identify whether it is Victorinox Hiker Knife or Victorinox Super Tinker Knife. |
| Posted by: Makoto 25 May 2009 - 10:49 PM |
| I took some pictures to compare a swiss army style knife with a MacGyver 100th episode knife. http://photos.yahoo.co.jp/ph/j1200617/lst?&.dir=/7216&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.co.jp/ph/j1200617/lst%3f%26.dir=/7216%26.src=ph%26.view=t |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 26 May 2009 - 12:44 AM |
| kewl. That pretty much confirms the 100th episode knife is a Barlow, as well as the Stringer episode using the same kind of knife. Nice work  |
| Posted by: MacSAK 31 May 2009 - 10:56 AM |
| Hey everybody, I'm new here! And first of all, i want to apology my crappy English... I'm from Finland... So... I've always wondered what SAK MacGyver used in each episode. Usually you can't get good look at them, beacuse Mac's hand is on the way. This list have helped me alot! Thanks to all for putting the list up.  If I looked correctly, MacGyver used Standard or Tinker the most and alot other models too.Here's little question: I'm planning to buy new SAK, because my old Ranger lost while i was on boat cruise... i've looked and compared diffrent SAK models and I have come to the conclusion that it's Sportsman or Mountaineer, so wich one you prefer? Mountaineer has more functions and Sportsman is little smaller... and the Ranger was little too big for me... I have little problem too, i cant find anywhere neither Sportsman or Mountaineer here in finland... but i think it clears when i contact the SAK importer. |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 31 May 2009 - 02:22 PM |
| I guess it really depends what you want. Do you need the extra tools on the Mountaineer? if would go with a Sportsman. Have you looked at other kinds? The Spartan or Tinker is similar to the Sportsman. You can see various other kinds for comparison in the http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/store.html#saks I just checked, and our store can ship to Finland. So if your really stuck that might be an option for you.  |
| Posted by: MacSAK 2 June 2009 - 02:34 AM | ||
Ok, thanks for information and yeah, I've looked other SAK models. I used Victorinox ToolFinder (?) and the Sportsman and Mountaineer were two first results... |
| Posted by: MacSAK 5 June 2009 - 09:51 AM | ||
I just checked, and our store can ship to Finland. So if your really stuck that might be an option for you.
Ok, i finally found right model for me... SAK Hiker And i found it from hiking store near me |
| Posted by: MacAlon 29 July 2009 - 12:10 AM |
| Hello Guys. I wanted to comment you my findings. Flame's end - SAK is a Wenger Classic 11  Three for the Road - Victorinox Camper (see you the Camping engraving) Lost Treasure of Atlantis - Victorinox Hiker. Saw wood, no scissors. Look at the thickness of the layer. Pilot - Victorinox Tinker small. The Legend of the Holy Rose - Picknicker/ Adventurer /Rucksack ... I think is Picknicker model. Regards. |
| Posted by: Makoto 30 July 2009 - 12:59 AM | ||
Very good work!!! The list becomes more close to exact one.  |
| Posted by: MacDriver 11 August 2009 - 10:29 PM |
| Awesome! That is further into the show than I previously thought that MacGyver had used a Wenger for the last time. It's bizarre how Victorinox firmly planted their foot in the door and pushed Wenger out. This knife was previously known as the Highlander, I have the camouflage variant I bought years ago when I hunted. |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 15 August 2009 - 02:55 AM | ||
Not when you consider that Victorinox knives are superior in quality and design. I think they have more choice of knives too don't they. Great work on this list guys. I've updated your changes now. And we also now have a page for the http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/100thsak.html using Makoto's pictures. |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 22 December 2009 - 03:00 AM |
| I've just had an email from a fan suggesting that the knife in Jack of Lies was a Fisherman rather than a field-master. He claimed this because you can see what looks like a fish logo on the handle as Mike starts to cut MacGyver free towards the end of the episode. I've attached some screen captures of the scene. It's not a great view but I think it does look like the fish logo on the Fisherman SAK  What say the rest of you? |
| Posted by: Makoto 23 December 2009 - 10:21 PM | ||
It may be a Fisherman or Grand Prix model. http://www.smartknives.com/Victorinox-Knives/Victorinox-Grand-Prix.htm |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 23 December 2009 - 10:47 PM |
| yeah it's hard to see. I personally think the emblem looks more like the fish than the car. |
| Posted by: Flyboy16 22 January 2010 - 03:03 PM |
| In blood brothers he used a tinker when he was talking to the Sherif |
| Posted by: Flyboy16 22 January 2010 - 08:13 PM | ||
yeah its a fishermen because the second pic you can see the tail |
| Posted by: Flyboy16 22 January 2010 - 08:15 PM |
it looks too thick to be a fishermen i think its a angler |
| Posted by: Mac1977 23 January 2010 - 11:03 AM |
| The knife used in jack of lies can´t be angler because it has corcscrew. You can see philips srewdriver when Mike picks it up. Knife used in to be a man ,prisoner of conscience,wish child and final approach is camper you can see camping text if you look sharp. |
| Posted by: Makoto 24 January 2010 - 01:49 AM | ||
 Very GREAT!!! I could not see it.  MacGyver used Camper model more times than I think.  |
| Posted by: Mac1977 24 January 2010 - 08:29 AM |
| Knife used in mask of wolf is old recruit economy and in bitter harvest standard model. It´s funny that in hellfire episode mac uses tinker and executive in same take when he takes nitro on blade and in early retirement when he opens srewdriver blade old recruit and super tinker without toothpick/tweezers when he uses it. |
| Posted by: MacDriver 27 January 2010 - 01:30 AM |
And so I have created an army of minions to do my Mac watching SAK detective work  Just kidding but great finds guys! And yeah it is funny that he switched back and forth, especially in the first season from take to take, episodes like Hellfire and Slow Death (Executive/Huntsman). |
| Posted by: Mac1977 28 January 2010 - 02:47 AM |
| In eye of osiris mac uses spartan and in high control old sportsman or tourist,because when he opens srewdriver blade it opens without click in the middle and knife seems to be 84mm size without keyring from my view. |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 28 January 2010 - 03:25 AM |
| Damn! More work to do. Keep them coming guys, I'll update the list when I get a chance in the next few days. |
| Posted by: Mac1977 28 January 2010 - 01:25 PM |
Knife used in ma dalton is standard, in hell week recruit economy only.(where he uses climber in this episode?) In d.o.a.:MacGyver knife looks like it could be mountaineer because the grey file blade shows when mac opens srewdriver blade to fix bike chains.(Okay thats only my view!)  |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 11 February 2010 - 04:02 PM |
| Just updated http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/saks.html. Just to clarify this in my own mind. When you guys talk about a standard model, that's actually an old Spartan? |
| Posted by: Mac1977 12 February 2010 - 07:06 AM |
Only defference between standard and spartan is that standard model does not have tweezers/toothpick and keyring. I own both knives and i have victorinox catalogs from 1989 to 1994 and these knives have been on market at the same time. Catalogs also show economy-range models that include old recruit 84mm wich is called youth and i own that too. I´ts funny that victorinox chances model names as years go by because of so little differences. I have seen youtube review video where new recruit is called driver on the box ,also climber without keyring is called traveller in 1989 catalog.  |
| Posted by: Mac1977 12 February 2010 - 09:38 AM |
| Knife used along with executive in episode slow death when mac makes dog whistle is three layer maybe camper or climber because corckscrew shows when he closes reamer. I think it´s camper because it is used in to be a man and prisoner of conscience and many times even during the second season. (i have watched dvds with pause and zoom function.) |
| Posted by: MacDriver 12 February 2010 - 09:28 PM | ||
Before 1991, the 91mm cap lifter/large screwdriver didn't have the half stop. So it could have been the 91mm rather than the 84mm, but often you can tell by the proportionate size. And as a disclaimer, I watched the episodes on VHS when I made the original list, so sometimes a 3 layer looked like a 4 haha. I just watched Slow Death online and sure enough it is 3 layers- a Camper or a Climber- I'll let you guys duke that one out Fwiw the saw is thinner and that middle layer looks more like the width of a saw and not scissors. |
| Posted by: Mac1977 13 February 2010 - 10:27 AM |
| I have a swiss champ wich was bought in spring of 1989 from finland (i remember it well because it was a big day for me heh!) and it has the middle stop at the screwdriver, so function to 91mm knives came earlier than 1991 when the episode high control aired first time. Good examble of this is from episode the battle of tommy giordano(first aired in 1989) when mac uses standard 91mm and opens srewdriver to connect the phone lines you see clearly and hear two clicks. And yes it is hard to say about the size of the knife 84mm or 91mm,but old version (without keyring)sportsman just fits to be used in high control afterall it was used earlier on lost love episodes. Only mac knows for sure. |
| Posted by: shiloh5150 17 February 2010 - 10:20 PM |
| Its a close call in "Lost Treasure of Atlantis", Is Mac using a Super Tinker or a Hiker? PLEASE HELP!!! |
| Posted by: shiloh5150 17 February 2010 - 10:26 PM |
| Mac used a Spartan more times than the Tinker? |
| Posted by: shiloh5150 17 February 2010 - 10:40 PM |
| UPDATE, according to the "MacGyver Expert" I just heard from, YES, it was a Hiker used in L.T.A. ALSO, (from what I was just told) through out the series he used a Hiker NOT a Super Tinker in the episodes where a Super Tinker was supposedly used. |
| Posted by: shiloh5150 17 February 2010 - 10:47 PM |
| Is the "Barlow" SAK used in "The Stringer" Just an imitation SAK? Or were they ever made? |
| Posted by: MacBeth 17 February 2010 - 11:41 PM | ||
Who is the "MacGyver Expert" you refer to? |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 18 February 2010 - 02:19 AM |
| Yes I too would like to know who this "MacGyver Expert" is. |
| Posted by: shiloh5150 18 February 2010 - 08:26 AM |
| It was some idiot on Facebook who CLAIMED to have all this information on the show and all the props and SAK's that were used, he or she referred to themselves as the "MacGyver Expert". |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 18 February 2010 - 12:30 PM |
| Sounds more like an ego than an expert. |
| Posted by: Beachbead 18 February 2010 - 05:09 PM |
| MacGyver Expert? ya, right. |
| Posted by: MacBeth 18 February 2010 - 08:43 PM | ||
Not exactly an authoritative source, methinks. Does this person have a name? |
| Posted by: MacDriver 19 February 2010 - 02:14 AM |
| If only I had the DVD's... I should start a donation fund so people can sponsor a DVD box set purchase so my expert eye can watch a hundred hours of MacGyver, then I'll report back with an accurate comprehensive list Disclaimer: Donations non-tax deductible |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 19 February 2010 - 03:18 AM |
| Check your local rental store. Some of the bigger chains have series sections where you can rent seasons of shows. |
| Posted by: shiloh5150 19 February 2010 - 08:36 AM |
| The "MacGyver Expert" that messaged me, is no longer on the MacGyver fan page on Facebook, how convenient, probably full of crap anyway! |
| Posted by: Flyboy16 24 February 2010 - 05:10 PM |
| youtubes MacGyver vids imo are pretty good in video quality i can usually see what sak is being used |
| Posted by: Mac1977 27 February 2010 - 10:51 PM |
| I just watched first seasons the prodigal and target MacGyver episodes from dvd and when mac cuts federal cars water hose and gets up in prodigal he has two layer knife with corckskrew maybe 91mm victorinox standard model in his hand. And in target MacGyver he uses executive when he cuts the hollow reeds, so he uses 84mm tinker/standard in prodigal and 84mm tinker/executive in target MacGyver. |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 27 February 2010 - 11:29 PM |
| Not a Tinker? |
| Posted by: Mac1977 27 February 2010 - 11:53 PM |
| Yes he uses 84mm tinker also on differend scenes in those episodes. |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 28 February 2010 - 01:32 AM |
| I didn't read the last bit of your post apparently. |
| Posted by: shiloh5150 28 February 2010 - 11:42 AM |
| The SAK list says it all, the spartan and the tinker he used the most, PERIOD. |
| Posted by: Mac1977 3 March 2010 - 06:40 AM |
| In last stand episodes beginning when bad guy says to mac to empty his pockets we see victorinox tinker on the table along with money wich buddy takes for himself. So tinker is also kind of used with executive in this episode. |
| Posted by: spartan 18 March 2010 - 10:58 AM |
| HI In episode Trumbo´s World (In sak list ) is mentioned Wenger Pocketmate SAK...do you have any proof like Screen Shot where you can reckognize that model of Wenger SAK. It seems to me that Mac is using Wenger knife at the begining of episode to get that towel it looks like he´s using Wenger can opener ("hook style"). When I tried to find Wenger pocketmate on internet all pictures showed Classic 02 which contain Large blade, Nail file , Scissors and Corcksrew (No Can Opener at all) Smartknives description says same tools as Classic 02 so now Im confused |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 18 March 2010 - 08:36 PM |
| I think your right. If you watch as he unhooks the towel and closes the blade you get a quick little look at the funny angled Wenger can opener. It seems to have that square look of a wenger too. |
| Posted by: spartan 19 March 2010 - 08:59 AM | ||
So we agreed that it is Wenger (keyring+chain, hooklike can opener). It looks like two layer . Maybe it s Classic 11 that Mac used later on in Flames End episode but its hard to say because. 1. I couldn´t clearly see if the knife has corkscrew or philips srcrewdriver (in my opinion its philips) 2. Wenger makes similar models with small blade or nail file (you can´t reckognize them with closed tools) (I was quite happy when I saw Wenger pocketmate in that list because I wanted to buy that knife despite its price 26,56Euro in local Wengers distributor E-shop ) |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 19 March 2010 - 01:49 PM |
| I don't think it has a key ring chain, because he pokes it down into his boot and there's no chain visible, but it does look a lot like a Wenger just the same. |
| Posted by: Makoto 20 March 2010 - 01:33 AM | ||
When MacGyver picks up a towel, you can see a long key chain. |
| Posted by: shiloh5150 20 March 2010 - 07:32 AM |
| When in doubt, its either a Spartan or a Tinker! LOL. |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 20 March 2010 - 01:21 PM | ||
Except neither of those are made by Wenger so that rule wont work for this knife. It would help if there was a decent image of the scene, but the picture quality of those early episodes isn't' so great. |
| Posted by: shiloh5150 20 March 2010 - 08:54 PM |
| A Wenger Canyon model, maybe??? |
| Posted by: shiloh5150 20 March 2010 - 08:59 PM |
| In the final episode 'The Stringer", that SAK looks like a "Royal Crest" imitation SAK, they have them on Ebay, check it out! |
| Posted by: Makoto 20 March 2010 - 09:10 PM | ||
But does Canyon have a Key Chain ? http://www.smartknives.com/Wenger-Knives/Wenger-Canyon-Knife.htm |
| Posted by: Makoto 20 March 2010 - 09:16 PM | ||
The shape of a saw of Royal Crest is defferent from the one of the knife used in "The Stringer". |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 20 March 2010 - 11:44 PM | ||
I think we established it was a Barlow Knife. The same as the one used for the http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/100thsak.html. knife used in episode 100th episode knife  |
| Posted by: Mac1977 21 March 2010 - 10:49 AM |
| The knife used in trumbos opening could be wenger trailblazer |
| Posted by: shiloh5150 21 March 2010 - 12:44 PM |
| Yes, the Wenger has the long key chain. |
| Posted by: shiloh5150 21 March 2010 - 12:47 PM |
| Yeah, but the 100th episode knife doesn't have the toothpick and tweezers, in the the final episode the knife has them (toothpick and tweezers) It was just a theory, maybe Royal Crest changed the way the saw was made! |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 21 March 2010 - 08:27 PM |
| Yeah, it might not be the exact model they used for the 100th episode, but it sure looks like a Barlow brand going from the shape of the blade. There might be other shots of the knife in the episode too.. not sure. |
| Posted by: shiloh5150 22 March 2010 - 02:56 PM |
| There is, in about 15 minutes into the episode where Sam, Mac, and Pete, are in the empty warehouse and Mac uses the tweezers from the knife, the tweezers and toothpick are at the TOP of the knife. |
| Posted by: Flyboy16 24 March 2010 - 08:04 PM |
| Lol Come on Mac! why couldn't you have just used Victorinox and save us all the trouble? |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 25 March 2010 - 02:27 AM | ||||
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| Posted by: Mac1977 25 March 2010 - 04:34 AM |
| In flames end when mac makes door clock to go faster he first uses wenger screwdriver but when he cuts wires the shape of the blade is from victorinox tinker? I also watched twice stung and when mac does the guiverism to door switch in police station he first opens screwdriver blade from victorinox camper (you can see camping logo when you zoom it) and when they show closer its small tinker so maybe when mac saws the bottom of the box earlier he uses saw from camper but its hard to be sure because knife looks like it could even be alox farmer? |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 25 March 2010 - 09:19 AM |
| I thought he just cut that box with the blade because it's like a leather trunk? I'll have to watch it again when I get he chance. |
| Posted by: MacDriver 25 March 2010 - 09:05 PM | ||
If I didn't include that in my original list I intended to- he definitely was using a red Alox Farmer/Pioneer in the police evidence room. As for flame's end, good catch, I'll check that one out when I get the chance. |
| Posted by: spartan 27 March 2010 - 02:43 PM | ||
In case of "Flame´s End" episode Mac1977 seems to be right. I´ve noticed that before he sent his post and I can only agree with that (screwdriver is Wenger but blade seems to be Victorinox maybe 84mm size model) It´s strange to see that Mac is using two different knives within less than a minute as in Flame´s End or Hellfire where he used Executive and Tinker??? in one scene I have a question about SAK used in episode Trumbo´s World when Mac makes explosive (time 00:41:46-00:41:59) IMO it is two layer Victorinox Tinker??? I´m not sure because knife is put on table with shield scale down and blade is hard to reckognize but it seems to be Victorinox (plus no sign of chain) Maybe I should give up watching Trumbo´s World |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 27 March 2010 - 04:48 PM |
Here's some close up's of that scene.  |
| Posted by: Mac1977 28 March 2010 - 02:14 PM |
| Yeah its very hard to say about the brand of the knife on the table in that 'cooking' scene of trumbo because of the picture quality of early episodes. The shape of the blade looks wide like wenger in little picture, but in bigger picture it looks like small victorinox tinker because the chain dosen't show. In big picture also can opener blade in closed position seems more like wengers? Maybe mac remove the chain of wenger? Or he has allways tinker in his back pocket like in many other episodes. |
| Posted by: spartan 29 March 2010 - 10:29 AM | ||
As far as I remember Mac used his wenger in Flame´s End without chain.. In the picture above it seems that knife has wenger can opener (I compared that picture with latest addition to my collection Wenger classic 07  ) but I can´t see bottle opener on Mac´s knife only another blade taht could be small blade or nailfile and there is no corkscrew (It should be visible in that angle)So I think its Wenger Classic 11 or Victorinox Tinker (small?) . |
| Posted by: shiloh5150 3 April 2010 - 08:31 PM |
| ALSO, check out the "Walking Dead" episode, when Mac gets poisoned the guy opens the SAK, its a 3 layer Climber or Camper with a reverse shield, I believe the SAK list says he used a Spartan and or a Tourist in that episode as well. |
| Posted by: Flyboy16 3 April 2010 - 10:00 PM | ||
alox model perhaps? |
| Posted by: Flyboy16 3 April 2010 - 10:04 PM |
 it may be part of the wenger swiss buck series |
| Posted by: Flyboy16 3 April 2010 - 10:13 PM |
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| Posted by: shiloh5150 4 April 2010 - 08:48 AM |
| I still question the SAK in Lost Treasure of Atlantis, I know the list says its a Hiker, but, it still kinda looks like it could be a Super Tinker, anyone agree or disagree? |
| Posted by: Mac1977 18 August 2010 - 09:20 AM |
| The knife used in episode the road not taken is three layer with corcksrew probably victorinox camper model. It shows when mac makes alarm line out of baseball and later when Debra gives knife back to mac. Also in eagles episode when Darin takes knife out of macs pocket and opens blade it is three layer knife perhaps camper again, but later when Susan gives knife back to mac it looks like two layer with corckscrew and toothpick and tweezers without keyring perhaps old sportsman model. |
| Posted by: Wheeljack 17 November 2010 - 10:31 PM |
| I think the props people wanted to mess with fans with all their knife swapping antics. On one hand I wish they would just release and official list (if they have a record, or can view master tapes), but on the other hand the mystery is kinda fun. When they finally put the series on blu-ray it could go a long way for figuring out what he was using in some scenes. Provided they transfer them properly anyway. There's a lot of digital grain and blotchiness on the dvds. |
| Posted by: sneto 26 November 2010 - 08:42 AM |
| the knife in trumbos world is a wenger trailblazer i think |
| Posted by: Wheeljack 26 November 2010 - 10:21 AM | ||
Incidentally, I just picked up a Trailblazer on ebay. New in box. |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 25 March 2011 - 12:59 AM |
| I've just gone through and updated and recalculated both the http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/saks.html and the http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/sakusage.html lists. I think I've got the numbers pretty accurate. I was thrown a bit by the number of knives being more than the number of episodes until I clicked that we have a number of episodes which used multiple knives, so when I counted those up it all totaled up correctly. We still have 16 episodes with unidentified knives, so if any of you can identify the models of any of those knives please post and let us know. |
| Posted by: Mac1977 27 March 2011 - 10:13 AM |
| Knife used in wish child is victorinox camper and in secret of parker house standard. |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 27 March 2011 - 11:08 PM | ||
do we have agreeance on this from our other SAKsperts to add it to the list? |
| Posted by: Mac1977 30 March 2011 - 09:31 AM |
| About the episode easy target the list says 111mm. I have watched this episode and i think the correct knife model used is 111mm lock blade victorinox picknicker. |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 30 March 2011 - 11:49 PM | ||
So there are different kinds of the 111mm knife? |
| Posted by: Mac1977 1 April 2011 - 10:40 AM |
| Yep, at my victorinox catalog from 1989 there was five 111mm lenght lock blade models from one layer cowboy knife to three layer rucksack model. Macgyvers knife was maybe allways two layer picknicker or adventurer ( i own both knives). Only difference between these knives is that picknicker has cork srew and adventurer phillips screwdriver blade along with large blade, can opener/small screwdriver, cap lifter/screwdriver/wire stripper and reamer. The knife in easy target episode is two layer and I see the cork screw blade when mac uses reamer. Today there is more layers and models along with liner lock and one hand open large blade. |
| Posted by: Mac1977 5 August 2011 - 05:39 AM |
| I watched final approach episode again from season two and noticed that in baking scene when mac cuts the cake he uses victorinox climber and later when he tells the story from highschool he has camper knife in his hand. |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 5 August 2011 - 04:05 PM |
| how can you tell it's a climber? - just wanting to verify it before updating the list. |
| Posted by: Mac1977 7 August 2011 - 12:06 PM |
| Well when Mac cuts cake there isn´t camping logo on knife scale and it is three layer and older climber model cause it doesnt have multi purpose hook on back. I remember hook came on victorinox knives in around 1992. Looks like knife has scissors when he changes grip on knife. And later in highschool story scene knife has camping logo on scale. |
| Posted by: MacDriver 9 August 2011 - 07:39 PM |
| It's funny, five years ago no one on here really talked about SAKs in this much detail, and now we have expert eyes everywhere. I almost feel obsolete in my contribution to the community now It's fantastic though, I think for me personally it was one of the more enigmatic elements of the show. I always ask the question "why" about things, so once I realized he changed it up constantly I tried to figure out "why is he always changing SAK's?" Now we know the official back story about victorinox giving them a big "gross" of them every season (no doubt a mix of different models), that explains why to an extent. Still, was it an accident, or did they purposefully have Mac changing it up? I REALLY would like to know what Rick (or the props dept) was thinking all throughout the show in regards to the knives. |
| Posted by: Mac1977 13 August 2011 - 07:41 AM |
| I remember that the knife was one of the many reasons why i liked and still like the show. I was allways excited to see what knife mac would use in next episode. My first knife was victorinox bantam economy wich is only one layer knife, but it looked like recruit economy knife what mac used. I also got victorinox swiss champ at 1989 and standard knife back then. I also remember funny thing that i got 111mm victorinox picknicker knife before it was used in show. I am a bit of collector of knives. Here in finland macgyver aired first time about a year later than in u.s.a. |
| Posted by: KiwiTek 8 March 2013 - 04:40 PM |
| I've been sent the below email regarding the "Slow Death" episode. Can anyone verify before I update the list. I believe huntsman is incorrect. Scene where he is making the whistle using the reamer tool. You can see a small chain attached to the knife. This feature was on wenger knives. I believe tge knife in use was a wenger handyman. |
| Posted by: Mac1977 9 March 2013 - 07:42 AM |
| I just watched the scene with pause from dvd and the knife has only normal keyring and it is three layer. I think it is victorinox camper. |
| Posted by: krist 21 May 2013 - 05:15 AM |
| in serenity : special Standart In tough boys : i think it´s a tinker SMALL instead of tinker 91mm 😁👍 |
| Posted by: krist 24 May 2013 - 11:30 AM |
| In black corsage : it´s a tinker or SMALL tinker , it´s not a spartan |
| Posted by: Mac1977 29 September 2013 - 07:55 AM |
| In the list there is recruit and recruit economy models of the knife used in episodes, but the time when MacGyver was filmed there was only economy model awailable so that model was allways used. |
| Posted by: bert003 19 January 2014 - 07:18 AM |
| Hi Guys, I have read all the pages present in this thread and have summarized what was said as shown below. I tried to be as correct as possible, please feel free to update this thread with any changes so that http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/saks.html will contain the best possible information which is ultimately correct and verified. There might be some episodes listed twice (MAYBE?). If so, please excuse me and notify. Thanks. Admins please note. Knives Used in Each Episode Update Three For the Road – Camper and Climber For Love or Money – Angler/Explorer/Huntsman/Mountaineer – UNCERTAIN HERE Lost Treasure of Atlantis – Hiker/Super Tinker Hell Week – Recruit Economy Early Retirement – Recruit Economy The Spoilers – Recruit Economy Slow Death – Camper The Eraser – Standard Final Approach - Spartan Eagles - Climber Out in the Cold - 3 layer (STILL UNIDENTIFIED) On a Wing and a Prayer - Standard The Battle of Tommy Giordano - Standard and 2 layer with tweezers Runners - Picknicker The Legend of the Holy Rose (1) – Model not clear The Black Corsage - Sportsman or Tourist Humanity – Standard The Visitor – Model not clear (In the site there is written None used!!) Jerico Games – None used (In the site there is written Unidentified) Eye of Osiris – Standard High Control – Spartan To be a Man – Camper Prisoner of Conscience – Camper Wish Child – Camper Final Approach – Climber and Camper D.O.A.: MacGyver – Mountaineer/Huntsman Target Mac Gyver – Tinker/Standard Last Stand – Executive and Tinker Flame's End – Wenger Classic 11 and Tinker Twice Stung – Camper and Tinker The Walking Dead – Climber or Camper The Secret of Parker House – Standard Easy Target - 111mm lock blade Victorinox Picknicker Serenity – Special Standard Tough Boys – Tinker Small Black Corsage – Tinker or Tinker Small Fire and Ice – Recruit Economy GX-1 – Recruit Economy Jack in the Box – Recruit Economy The Widowmaker – Recruit Economy The Endangered – Recruit Economy Murderer’s Sky – Recruit Economy |
| Posted by: Mac1977 19 January 2014 - 07:41 AM |
| Great job! Yep it is hard to say wich one mountaineer or huntsman is used in d.o.a.macgyver episode. But when i looked that bike repairing scene it looked that knife has file/metalsaw blade instead of woodsaw. Earlier friendns episode looks like mountaineer knife is opened on the memorial table next to minituare hot airballoon. |
| Posted by: bert003 19 January 2014 - 07:44 AM |
| Thanks Mac1977... so can you somehow confirm it is a mountaineer? |
| Posted by: Mac1977 19 January 2014 - 07:57 AM |
| Well sorry i can't be 100% sure, but sometimes they used same knife model in succession episodes. So they might use mountaineer in last three ones from season 2. Might be better if just put mountaineer/huntsman. Those knife models has so little difference. |
| Posted by: bert003 19 January 2014 - 08:04 AM |
| Ok mate thanks, will edit post |
| Posted by: KiwiTek 19 January 2014 - 03:19 PM | ||
Knife used in Jack of Lies is Victorinox Fisherman. Here's the screen capture, and below it is the knife.   |
| Posted by: bert003 20 January 2014 - 12:40 PM |
| any more feedback here??? |
| Posted by: KiwiTek 8 February 2014 - 05:11 PM | ||
Page is now updated to reflect this list. Thanks to everyone for your work on this so far.  |
| Posted by: bert003 9 February 2014 - 01:07 AM | ||
Thanks KiwiTek Is http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/sakusage.htm page updated as well please to reflect the changes? |
| Posted by: KiwiTek 9 February 2014 - 12:02 PM |
| That won't get done for a while (from me anyway) as it requires sitting down and recounting every knife on the list again. I won't have time to do that for a while, but if someone else feels the urge - have at it. |
| Posted by: MacFan092985 2 March 2014 - 08:40 PM |
| Can someone confirm what tools the Standard (old spartan) had? I'm slowly working to complete my MacGyver used SAK collection and want to make sure I get the right one. I typed STANDARD and OLD SPARTAN into eBay and a couple different versions of the SAKs came up. Also, regarding the Golfer, I've seen two versions: one with the shield on the same side as the corkscrew and one with the image of a male golfer on the same side as the shield on the opposite side of the corkscrew. I assume it's the former. Thanks in advance. |
| Posted by: bert003 3 March 2014 - 01:45 AM | ||
Will try to give a helping hand on that when I find time KiwiTek... |
| Posted by: Mac1977 3 March 2014 - 01:21 PM |
| I have standard victorinox knife bought in 1989 or 1990 and 1989 victorinox catalog where it is named as standard. Knife has six basic tools: big knife,small knife, can opener/small srewdriver,bottle opener/big screwdriver,reamer and corkscrew like spartan, but no toothpick and tweezers and no keyring. |
| Posted by: denizen 3 March 2014 - 09:36 PM |
 Here you go. |
| Posted by: MacFan092985 4 March 2014 - 02:44 PM |
| Great. Thank you. |
| Posted by: Harry1982 3 August 2014 - 11:22 PM |
| In Cleo Rocks, what kind of knive does Murdoc use to cut MacGyver's arm in the dungeon at the very end? Overall interested to know what kind of gear does he own. |
| Posted by: denizen 10 August 2014 - 09:19 PM |
| Good question Harry. I personally don't know that one. Anyone else? |
| Posted by: Harry1982 18 August 2014 - 06:36 PM |
| I've got another one. In Negotiator Deborah seems to use either Leatherman multitool or Victorinox Swisstool. I don't have much knowledge in these tools, but does anyone happend to know which was was it, model and all. Just a moment ago watched this episode and I became curious. |
| Posted by: Mac1977 19 August 2014 - 06:27 AM |
| I think it is leatherman because swisstool wasnt on the market yet when the episode was filmed. |
| Posted by: Harry1982 20 August 2014 - 01:55 PM |
| True, Leatherman company founded in 1983 and Swisstool announced in 1997, so Debbie had Leatherman. |
| Posted by: Harry1982 6 September 2014 - 07:09 PM |
| In the list it says recruit economy for Renegade episode, but I think I saw 3 different knives used in this episode, even one bigger SAK when Mac cuts the ropes in the end. |
| Posted by: Harry1982 7 September 2014 - 04:23 PM |
Here are some pictures from Renegade     |
| Posted by: Harry1982 10 September 2014 - 11:02 AM |
| The way I see it, no recruit economy was used in the Renegade episode, correct if I'm wrong. The Recruit Economy SAK is a simpler version with no toothpick or tweezers. Mac used his SAK in the elevator and in the end cutting the rope. To me it looks like there's toothpick in the close up shot in elevator. While cutting the rope, it looks like 111mm, perhaps Picnicker or some other large blade one. Mac did use a lot large blade during season 4. Steve Morrison (Marshall Teague) in the first picture seems to be using some smaller SAK, to me it looks like black small Tinker, any thoughts. By the way, the one Deborah used in Negotiator is most likely Leatherman PST Pocket Survival Tool 1988-1992 |
| Posted by: MacFan092985 18 October 2014 - 12:21 PM |
| What does the "Standard" (old Spartan) look like? Is it missing the two tools on the opposite side from where the knife blades, screwdriver, bottle opener, etc. are? Is it small in size, similar to the size of the small Tinker? Or is it missing the toothpick and tweezers? Is there any way to not only list the different SAKs Mac used, as it currently exists on MOL, but to include an accurate picture of said SAKs as they existed while "MacGyver" was on TV, with all the tools exposed, similar to the wardrobe page. The pictures should be of the actual SAKs, not screen captures from the different episodes. If a particular SAK model differs in any way to the ones Mac used, a note should be made stating said difference. |
| Posted by: KiwiTek 18 October 2014 - 01:46 PM |
I think the standard has no keyring,tweezers or toothpick. The photos is a good idea but runs into problems with episodes having multiple knives. The page looks quite messy with pictures added. I can look at having an image pop up when you click on the name of the knife. I just found this http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php site. It's not very well put together - doesn't even have a search by name option, but some may find it interesting/useful. |
| Posted by: MacFan092985 18 October 2014 - 04:48 PM |
| Thank you for the picture. The ide of clicking on the name to get an image to appear sounds like a good idea. |
| Posted by: denizen 18 October 2014 - 09:41 PM |
| Its great that the new SAK come standard with all the new tools, still there is something unique about the original models. |
| Posted by: KiwiTek 20 October 2014 - 01:56 AM | ||
Done. Let me know if you find any mistakes. |
| Posted by: tvero 20 October 2014 - 03:13 AM | ||
Maybe you were referring to the original Spartan (?) but in France, today, all the SAKs have a keyring and a toothpick (I've just checked while shopping). |
| Posted by: Mac1977 20 October 2014 - 12:56 PM |
| I have standard knife model bought it in 1990 from here finland. It is 91mm same knife as spartan but no tweezers, toothpick and no keyring. It has normal swiss shield logo on scale. |
| Posted by: KiwiTek 21 October 2014 - 01:18 AM | ||||
No. The picture I posted is of a Victorinox "Standard". The http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/saks.html page now has pictures on it. Just click on the name of a SAK to see what it looks like. The models were researched through the http://www.victorinox.com/ch/content/swissarmy/category/1 and the http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php so I'm fairly confident that they are all accurate, but let me know if you find any mistakes with the photos. |
| Posted by: MacFan092985 21 October 2014 - 05:32 PM |
| Looks great KiwiTek. Thank you for that. |
| Posted by: bert003 26 November 2014 - 05:35 AM |
| In Three for the Road, Mac used scissors to make a "flower bouquet" out of newspaper. So it cannot be a Camper... right? Because in this page http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/saks.html there is written Camper / Climber... Can someone please confirm? Thanks |
| Posted by: Wheeljack 1 January 2015 - 09:51 PM |
| I thought the camper model came with tiny tent stakes in place of the scissors. Pretty sure. |
| Posted by: Mac1977 3 January 2015 - 08:34 AM |
| I think victorinox knife used in Renegade is sportsman or tourist in elevator scene and when Mac cuts the rope he uses picknicker knife. In three for the road camper is used trough the episode except when Mac is cutting newspaper the model can be climber, huntsman, mountaineer, grand prix or fisherman because scissors are used. |
| Posted by: Paladin 3 January 2015 - 08:45 AM |
| Hopefully, if/when they release the series & movies in BluRay, that should help in IDing the knives used where currently we can't tell or aren't positive. IIRC, in the movie Trail to Doomsday they only showed Mac w/his SAK when he was in a room before setting off underground. He held it in one hand and used it to drum the palm of the other as he was thinking of something. No tools were used then, and I don't think they even showed a SAK other than that. I rented the DVD via Netflix a few months ago, so I can't look it up. Maybe someone else can. I don't recall the opening and closing credits, so you may want to ck those for SAKs too. |
| Posted by: MacFan092985 1 February 2015 - 08:40 PM |
| Just want to make sure, the we see MacGyver use for the first time in the Pilot episode is a Victorinox Tinker. Is this specific model still made or does the current Tinker model differ in any way? |
| Posted by: MacFan092985 24 February 2015 - 11:36 AM |
| The Picknicker I have is different than the one pictured on MOL and on SAKwiki. Mine is 91mm, has large blade / small blade /phillips head screwdriver / magnifying glass / bottle opener w/ large slot head screwdriver and wire stripper / can opener w/ screwdriver / corkscrew / reamer. |
| Posted by: MacFan092985 24 February 2015 - 11:52 AM |
| Did Mac's Tourist have a key ring? I've seen them with and without. |
| Posted by: MacFan092985 24 February 2015 - 12:07 PM |
| In the interest of screen accuracy, I wish there was a site that displayed the evolution of the design of each SAK model over the years, accounting for each and every change and the year(s) of said models, that way those of us looking to own SAKs exactly like Mac used could be sure the ones we have match. I called Victoinox and according to the gentleman I spoke with, they have no such record within the company. I noticed the Spartan model initially did not have a an eye in the reamer but later models did and still do. So, did Mac's have the eye in the reamer or not? I think the closest we can get is to purchase "new old stock" of Victorinox SAKs packaged in the burgundy boxes with the silver Swiss shield and silver lettering: VICTORINOX the original "Swiss Army Officers' Knife" the first and the finest. The first Victorinox SAK I bought was a Tinker - small in 1986 or 1987 and it came in the above described box. This may border on OCD. But . . . screen accurate is screen accurate. |
| Posted by: denizen 24 February 2015 - 08:39 PM |
| There are a couple of knife forums I have seen which go into detail on specifics of knives and so forth. I am however not certain if they focus on the SAK's and their updated models throughout time. |
| Posted by: MacFan092985 26 February 2015 - 03:37 PM |
| I called Victorinox and from what the customer service rep. told me, they do not have a record of the different versions of the SAKs made over the years. I'm surprised this. I would've thought they'd have a timeline, as it were, of the evolution of every SAK model they've made. Too bad there's not an app for that. |
| Posted by: denizen 26 February 2015 - 08:50 PM |
| a flaw in the system? |
| Posted by: bert003 9 August 2016 - 02:19 AM |
| Just watched S1E13 - Flames End and took screenshots of the knife. It is definitely not a Victorinox model as I see it. The image below shows that swiss knife logo is too white to be the Victorinox logo: https://www.dropbox.com/s/c5bw4u6snvorf8c/flames_end_1.jpg Also I took various other screenshots when MacGyver was speeding up the timer. The flat head screwdriver shape is not a Victorinox one. Check them below: https://www.dropbox.com/s/q1m5ppaszc8rmho/flames_end_2.jpg https://www.dropbox.com/s/7zt9v102x29bwf8/flames_end_5.jpg and here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/htjg0wjkzh9twy4/flames_end_3.jpg https://www.dropbox.com/s/gf9kthsxq5j7mp3/flames_end_4.jpg what do you think? |
| Posted by: KiwiTek 9 August 2016 - 02:53 AM |
It's a Wenger SAK as shown on http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/saks. Not sure why we've listed a Victorinox there with the Wenger though. I don't think he uses a knife again in that episode does he? |
| Posted by: bert003 9 August 2016 - 03:21 AM |
| Ok so now I can update the list posted in another topic. Because in the SAK page, in the episode row there is written Wenger/Tinker. So basically I can remove one from the "not sure" list and add Wenger Classic? |
| Posted by: Barry Rowland 9 August 2016 - 09:57 AM |
| Or Wenger Highlander. I have one of these knives. It's basically a small Tinker layout wise. |
| Posted by: bert003 10 August 2016 - 03:26 AM |
| Just watched Last Stand ... in my opinion 2 knives were used in this episode. In the SAK page, there is written Tinker / Executive but... In the image below, the knife is clearly not an Executive since it is a medium knife (91mm I could say)  This knife was taken from MacGyver by the bad guy at the beginning when he was asked to empty his pockets. And then in the same episode, a bit later on, we see MacGyver with a knife where the blade is not as high as the knife itself. And judging by the grip, I guess it is an Executive now. Check this:  So this shows that more than 1 knife could have been used in one episode so the total number of knives in the SAK page does not necessarily need to match the number of episodes. UPDATE: I also started watching Hellfire ... again here there is marked Tinker / Executive However both knives were used in this episode. Here we have a medium (91mm?) knife:  And then a few seconds later while still looking at the dynamite, we have the Executive which can be clearly identified by the blade size and knife shape (I own one so I immediately recognise one when I see it):  So... what do you guys think? Your opinion KiwiTek? |
| Posted by: KiwiTek 10 August 2016 - 04:26 AM |
| Those are terrible screen captures. I can't even see the knife in most of them. I'll have to go back and watch through the episode before commenting, unless you can find some better screen captures. |
| Posted by: bert003 10 August 2016 - 04:30 AM |
| Yes I know they are of low quality but you can see the difference in the knives and the blade size just the same... don't you think? |
| Posted by: KiwiTek 10 August 2016 - 04:59 AM |
| I can't really see anything in them. Here's some of the knife as MacGyver opens the Dynamite box in hellfire.     And here's one from Last Stand  It looks like an executive to me. Executive SAK  |
| Posted by: bert003 10 August 2016 - 05:46 AM |
| When he opens the dynamite box and the picture you posted where he picks the material with the blade, the blade's shape and size is not an executive's blade for sure. It is a 91mm knife blade... in fact the blade occupies the whole knife's width as opposed to an executive blade where it takes half the width... That is why I am saying that 2 knives were used... Can you double check pls? The blade is wider than that of an executive... Also pls can you provide the screenshot from Last Stand when Mac empties his pocket contents on the table? It surely is not an Executive there... too big for me |
| Posted by: bert003 10 August 2016 - 10:42 PM |
| KiwiTek, re Hell Fire you posted this: And here is a fresh shot of my Executive knife in the same position.  You can clearly see that: 1. There is no writing engraved. 2. The blade is wider. 3. The blade's shape is different. 4. In your pic, the blade's non cutting edge matches exactly the edge of the knife. In my pic, it reaches the middle of the knife's width since it is a smaller blade. 5. Keyring? So this shows that in that scene, in a minute, 2 different knives were used. Your feedback? |
| Posted by: bert003 11 August 2016 - 02:31 AM |
| So... feedback? Can anyone help me out on this please? In the meantime, I watched Twice Stung where there is written Camper/Tinker. I feel it is a Tinker model. My screenshot below kind of shows the backside phillips screwdriver. It is around the 40:06. Maybe someone can provide a clearer screen capture.  Thanks |
| Posted by: KiwiTek 11 August 2016 - 03:41 AM |
| Yes that's a tinker in that scene, but remember the second knife could be used in a different part of the episode. |
| Posted by: bert003 11 August 2016 - 04:31 AM |
| Ok granted KiwiTek. What about the executive - tinker comparison in my post re Hell Fire please? Do you agree that the image you posted is not an executive blade compared to my executive blade image? I am asking since when I posted my original list of the number of times each SAK was used you remarked that I have more knives than episodes and now we are discussing that there can be more than one knife per episode. So the total of knives vs episodes does not need to match. Is that correct please? Thanks |
| Posted by: Barry Rowland 11 August 2016 - 08:32 AM |
| That's definitely a Tinker in that scene, but I know I saw a 3 layer in that episode too. I was going to guess a Camper, but there's really no way of knowing unless Mac used the saw. I don't know if I missed this, but how did the producers have access to all these SAKs? Were they provided based on the needs of the episode or just on what was on hand? |
| Posted by: bert003 11 August 2016 - 09:35 AM |
| Barry's comment also emphasises the fact that the number of knives used do not need to match the number of episodes since now we can for sure say that more than one knife could have been used in one episode... |
| Posted by: KiwiTek 11 August 2016 - 01:23 PM | ||
RDA once said in an interview that they were sent a whole bunch of SAK's for the show. So I guess they just used whichever one the props person hand landed on unless they needed a specific tool. |
| Posted by: Barry Rowland 11 August 2016 - 01:29 PM |
Thanks Kiwi!  |
| Posted by: KiwiTek 11 August 2016 - 06:46 PM | ||||
Yes they do look like 2 different knives to me. I'm certainly no knife expert though. Unfortunately the real knife enthusiasts who made the original list don't come here any more.
Correct. |
| Posted by: Barry Rowland 12 August 2016 - 02:31 AM |
| I have to say, while it might not be perfect, I'm thrilled to have that list and use it more times than I can say when I'm watching the old series. Considering it's taken from stills, it's right near phenomenal! |
| Posted by: bert003 12 August 2016 - 10:09 PM | ||
Yes I love that list and it is my first reference point to decide which episode to watch in my free time... |
| Posted by: bert003 12 August 2016 - 10:11 PM | ||||||
Thanks for your feedback KiwiTek Who are the real knife enthusiasts you are talking about if I may ask please? Don't we have their contact details? |
| Posted by: KiwiTek 12 August 2016 - 11:14 PM |
| The posters at the start of this topic - back on the first few pages. They've moved on, outgrown the site and haven't been back for years in most cases. |
| Posted by: bert003 13 August 2016 - 10:42 PM | ||
| Have just gone through the thread and checked the list so far. Seems to be updated according to the latest comments however I must point out something. Where in the list there is a "/" like for example, Executive / Tinker, according to the members' posters posts and comments it means AND not OR. Therefore in Executive / Tinker means Executive AND Tinker. In fact in the Survivors episode there is an OR specified when there is uncertainty:
The above means that 2 knives were used: 1 is either a Super Tinker or Tinker and 2 is still Unidentified. Therefore, the total number of knives used can be used by counting (with care) the number of times a knife is mentioned. This brings me back to the original list I posted. In the meantime, I also sent a private message to Makoto which looks as a good episode knife expert here, hoping he could come back to give us a helping hand. I will also try and tackle the unidentified episodes and post any hints and opinions here. Maybe we can identify some more as well with your help. Cheers |
| Posted by: Barry Rowland 16 August 2016 - 11:21 AM |
| Thanks Bert! Like I said earlier, I reference the list all the time because I love Swiss Army Knives |
| Posted by: bert003 22 August 2016 - 11:03 PM | ||
I just came across an interview with Pat O'Brien. Take a look below at his answer:
Just one question... In the FAQ section, there is written that his most used knife is a "Tinker model" from Victorinox. Are we referring to all Tinker based models? i.e. Tinker, Tinker small and Super Tinker? Because, in the SAK per episode page, Tinker is mentioned 23 times. However there are 2 episodes where there is an OR, so we have to deduct 2, which brings us to 21 times. 21 times including all models (Tinker, Tinker small and Super Tinker). However, if we are considering the Tinker only (excluding the small and the super), we only have 11 times where it is used (excluding the ones with an OR as well) And then we have the Standard which was used 15 times. Obviously I am excluded the unidentified ones. I am asking since I found a lot of sites quoting the FAQ page with a link to the SAK usage page and mentioning that most used knife was the Tinker. Can someone kindly clear this please? I mean on what basis is there written that the Tinker is the most used swiss army knife? Thanks in advance |
| Posted by: KiwiTek 24 August 2016 - 03:00 AM |
| I think it's all Tinkers, but the people who originally made that list are no longer here but I think that was the decision. You might find something back int he early posts about it. |
| Posted by: bert003 24 August 2016 - 08:50 AM |
| Thanks KiwiTek for pointing this out ... that is what I was thinking as well in fact based on my calculations... Tinkers rock |
| Posted by: denizen 24 August 2016 - 08:45 PM |
| I think it should be a standard that any and all SAK collectors starting up should first buy a Tinker. |
| Posted by: bert003 24 August 2016 - 09:27 PM | ||
Couldn't have said it better denizen... agree 100% |
| Posted by: Barry Rowland 25 August 2016 - 03:04 AM |
Right on!!  |
| Posted by: zhester 16 September 2016 - 08:09 AM |
| If this seems better as a new topic, let me know, and I'd be happy to start one up. This topic, though, really helped me locate a few knives, so I thought it would be appropriate to just reply to the thread. Disclaimer: I realize the list of SAKs is based on identifying tiny details in NTSC-grade video stills. I'm not overly concerned with perfect accuracy. I'm just hoping to get as close as possible to the props used in the show. I'm looking for some help identifying the Wenger SAK used in Trumbo's World. http://www.macgyveronline.com/database/saks indicates it's a Pocketmate. When you click on the link for the Wenger Pocketmate, it shows a picture of a http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Viking. Not that the SAK wiki site is 100% comprehensive, but I can't locate a Pocketmate model: http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+85mm So, I did some digging, and found a reference to a "https://www.smartknives.com/Wenger-Knives/Wenger-Pocket-Mate.htm." Here, they describe something that sounds like a http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Commander. But, one of the distinguishing characteristics of the knife in the episode is the obvious chain instead of the split ring. So, looking for just a Pocketmate seems to take me farther away from whatever knife appears in the episode. Looking for something like a Viking (like in the picture) seems to get me closer. Just to throw some more chum in the water, I keep running into a completely different knife also called a http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=SwissBuck+PocketMate. If the Pocketmate is just some super-old model, and the Internet has no memory of it, I can accept that fact. If it really was something closer to a Commander, though, maybe the database could use a more appropriate picture of the knife. In the end, I don't think you could really tell from the episode since the biggest difference is the clip-point blade vs. the nail file. I'm also guessing Wenger used chains and split rings without 100% consistency throughout the years. Since this is for my personal collection, I'm just buying both knives regardless. Maybe someone here actually owns a Pocketmate, and can set me straight. In the end, if this discussion just helps a future SAK collector avoid my confusion, I'd also be really happy. Thanks! |
| Posted by: Danjo1 21 March 2017 - 10:58 AM | ||
I doubt that there was a whole lot of thought given to what knife he carried beyond making sure Mac had the right tool at the right time for the story, but I have my own personal theory that Mac always carried two knives on him. To me that makes the most sense. He could carry one in his hip pocket and one in his front pocket, etc., and always have a backup in case one was lost or stolen, or if he needed a bigger selection of tools. At least that's how I believe a real-life Mac would do it. I know there are a few episodes where it is clear that he only has one on him, but then there are all of those where he's using more than one within the same episode, or even the same scene. Perhaps, due to air travel restrictions (whatever those were back in the late 80's/early 90's, he didn't take any with him (except in his checked baggage) when traveling over seas, and would just pick one up wherever he was going (one of the advantages of SAKs is their international availability), and perhaps explains why his knives were so random (Wengers/Vics of various models could be explained by Mac simply buying whatever happened to be available at the time). Anyway, just the way my brain attempts to avoid seeing things as bloopers, and suspend disbelief. |
| Posted by: denizen 21 March 2017 - 08:30 PM |
| I think most viewers at the time cared little for what tools were presented on each SAK. They just used whichever at the time that made sense for what was required. The opening title sequence makes the Wenger look good. And upon every situation, most subconsciously accept that he is using the same knife over and over again. Until you take a close look, that is. |
| Posted by: bert003 21 March 2017 - 08:45 PM |
| I agree with denizen about that... most viewers at the time (including me) just admired MacGyver (... and still do) but little care was given to the knife. They just knew he always carried a knife and that's it. Danjo1, your theory about MacGyver carrying more than 1 knife makes sense if we pretend that a whole episode was shot at one go since if that was the case, Mac would have to carry a battery of knives throughout the whole episode mission. In a real life situation, that is what one should do in order to be fully prepared. However, I am more of the opinion that different knives were given to him between a scene and another depending on the macgyverisms to be performed. I see you carry a Tinker. Great choice mate. Tinkers rock |
| Posted by: VictorinoxGuy 17 July 2017 - 05:11 AM |
| Hi guys, new member here A Mac fan since the very first Ep back in the 80's, and a huge Sak user and lover About the Sak's used through out the series, i think a lot of speculation (and a bit of fantasizing...) has been made as to why so many, but the thing is that they just bought a whole box of them to use as props for the show, and apart from the need for a specific tool for a specific scene RDA just grabbed a random one for the shot (or sequence of shot's), there was really not more science behind it than that... Some times they'd use more than one model on an Ep simply because the shot's where filmed in different days and they just gave him a different one on the next shot... On Hellfire for example, he is using a Small Tinker and an Executive in the same shot sequence. On the shot of his hand scarping the nitro from the bottom of the box he has the small tinker, on the panoramic front shot (same place) of him and his friend you can clearly see him holding an Executive. The shot's where filmed on two different days, and the "hand" shot is probably not even RDA himself... As RDA said in interviews, he probably destroyed over 150 of them through the whole series, either on the shot's or on his spare time as he used to throw them around and stick them in telephone poles, trees, walls and such... That being said, they used a whole lot more 84mm Sak's than it is on the Sak Ep list here on the site. In Killzone for example he didn't use a Super Tinker (as on the list) but a Salesman, which is an 84mm model of the Super Tinker. On the Eraser he used a Tourist on the bar shot's (fixing the ginger ale dispenser) and on the car shot (rigging up the phone), and a standard Spartan when he was going to pry a glass from a door to enter the abandoned building. My guess is they used 70% of the times 84mm models up untill the 4th season, and some times the Executive, and started using the 91mm a lot more from then on. Mainly because the production and availability of the 84mm models (with scissor's at least) got a lot more difficult as a lot of 84mm models got discontinued mid 80's. |
| Posted by: bert003 23 September 2017 - 08:28 PM | ||||
Are you sure about this VictorinoxGuy? If yes, can you provide screen captures please? So that maybe KiwiTek can update the list showing the knives used in each episode? Since in the list there is currently Super Tinker. Also...
Are you also sure on this? Screen captures please? In the list, the knife mentioned is Standard. Looking forward for your reply so that we can have a more updated list Cheers |