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Posted: 27 March 2017 - 02:05 PM                                    
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Well, to be fair, the original had it's share of bad writing and dialouge. RDA still managed to make it enjoyable.

I believe it's because RDA has personality and a good sense of humor.

The reboot is just too dry... it's completely scripted, and it's obvious they're all following the script to the letter.

So... I have to politely disagree there. lol

But, we're all fans for different reasons. I'm an RDA fan as well, so my loyalty does lie with the original more than the reboot.

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QUOTE (Jediferret @ 27 March 2017 - 06:05 PM)
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Well .... I have been dateless .... and desperate as well,,,,,, but never together & on a Friday night!   kicking.gif


Oh lord... XD

The lord has little to do with it. wink.gif But it is well known that the majority of the preferred 19-34 year old demographic are either out at bars, sporting events, movies or parties on that night of the week. So you appease the best of the rest and score that night's ratings. That's what it looks like they've done and with the character traits chosen. For example, no real need for Mac to have a sports hobby because everybody who might care is out at the ballgame already. In contrast, a Monday night before football slot is a whole different scenario in this regard. That's probably not 100% accurate assessment, but you can bet they take liberties to tweak/tailor the tone/temperament of the characters to hook the kind/style of viewers whom they are certain are watching.



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Demographics are important when associating what show should be aired when. Depending on who is the target audience, time slots are essential when ensuring it is aired around the time that specific demographic is sitting their potato on that couch. biggrin.gif

In the past, Friday nights were associated as the death slot because younger people dont tend to stay home on a Friday night and if you have some sort of show that appeals to them airing around that time, its bye bye to your audience.



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Yeah, in that respect, I think they really nailed this one. I don't agree with their choices/decisions with my fan/viewers hat on ... but if I put my producer's hat on, then I san see that this a fairly clever & plotting production. I think for season 2 they can let their hair down, be less calculating, and (hopefully) come back to the original/supporting bg plot a bit more. But then again - why fix something that isn't broke and is already well paying the rent?



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Well, as a writer myself, I can honestly say that there is always room for improvement. lol

Season 1 was a good test phase to see what works and what doesn't work... not to mention, how much they'd be stepping on the toes of fans from the original. I think they've done their best on that.

Though, even if they have a working formula, they will need to make changes. If they don't, the formula will become stale and stagnant. People will get bored and they'll lose viewers.

The gaming industry already learned this... as does popular shows, like Supernatural. With 12 Seasons, they had a few duds.

Season 2 will need vast improvements. I know nobody will listen to me, but one thing they need to do is... loosen the hell up! Have fun and be proud of what you're doing.

For some, it's a paycheck... for other's, it's an opportunity. That will show in their performance.



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It's sad (to calculate, to think of money first..).That's probably why (I admit it ,Dashboardonfire was right) I may have sounded negative . This show isn't for me. I watched the prequel here and I liked it . It had the 'spirit'. What I needed was the spirit ( a tribute to the old show and some kind of loyalty even if it was bound to be different ) . There's nothing of it here.
I'm not quite sure the writers 'understood' MacGyver. When you start from scratch you imagine/invent/create the character little by little.In the first season of the original ,weapons were ok (more or less), ladies were welcome ...and then ...but they had an excuse : it was the first time MacGyver appeared and it was in the 80s!Now they have no excuse cause they are supposed to know him by heart ! But they simply don't care. sad.gif



 
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I think its basically the shell of the MacGyver character thrown into an entirely new dynamic. Or at least an NCIS formulaic one. biggrin.gif And yes, none of the characters are true to their original counterparts. They are called the names of the original characters but they are completely different in every aspect.



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actually I wasn't expecting some kind of success in this reboot, but seems like ratings proved me wrong... I might not be the right person to judge the show (I have only watched 6 episodes) but despite the lack of entertainment and mixed emotions this has been great for the Macgyver community. Although the classic series is in another level-
Maybe I don't understand how ppl still watch TV shows, for me it's like TV is dead somehow as nowadays we are able to see whatever we want and the moment we want. wink.gif



 
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The new Mac is not as compassionate, & doesn't appear to have an interest in sports or nature, either. Even 'if' that were to change in season 2, there's such a large supporting cast that his side interests probably won't be permitted to be accentuated as much. Also Till can't modulate his voice like RDA could. He's only got one vocal gear and that's not good enough for a MacGyver as we knew it. Changing/fluctuating the tones/sounds helped to create and set the moods of the various episode themes and above all - show and tell the personality of the character. In comparison, this boot is way, way too 1-dimensional.



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Have we seen a flake of snow as of yet? If not, it might be a good idea and for a change of scenery/climate. The original Mac was much more diverse in it's bg landscape. Makes for better eye candy. Budget (or lack there of) may have something to do with it though ....



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Overall, I was disappointed in how they moved away from the OS, but still glad it was picked up for a second season. Here are just a few thoughts on the first season:

1. Wish Mac was a little older in this series.... maybe in his early 30's. I know they need to appeal to the younger crowd, but I just think having him a little older, having more experience would be more believable for me. But this is TV and not real life, so I just need to get over it.

2. Along the same lines, Riley is also too young, imo, to be able to hack into foreign government computer systems in a couple minutes as well as the NSA - come on. Again, Mac and Riley are doing high level spy stuff and they both look like they need to show their driver's license just to get into a bar.

3. The writers of the show need to inject some humility into our heroes, Mac, Riley, and Jack, imo. Just from the x-over episode, all three of them had eye-rolling cockiness. From Riley saying to her new computer boyfriend "You have no idea what I can do" to Jack telling a PhD scientist "Let's play a game 'what does Jack not seeing'" (or something like that) to when the scientists told Mac while he was looking for a way to rescue them "you are talking to a group of PhDs don't you think we tried everything".... to which he replied something along the lines of "I can get you out, I just haven't thought of it yet". I know he is MacGyver, but still I like my heroes to have a little humility. I'm hoping for better writing in S2.

4. I hope the writers drop the Bozer/Riley thing.... it just doesn't work for me.



 
                                                                     
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QUOTE (jdsak @ 31 March 2017 - 10:45 AM)
1. Wish Mac was a little older in this series.... maybe in his early 30's. I know they need to appeal to the younger crowd, but I just think having him a little older, having more experience would be more believable for me. But this is TV and not real life, so I just need to get over it.

I agree with this. The right amount of age can add credibility and appear more inline, congruent, and/or commensurate with the experience displayed in tandem with the body language exuded. But it's also less and less the case in this day and age. Parents are less and less the primary source of knowledge these days and, as a rule, kids are not as 'dumbed down' nor myopic and are getting more professionalized/specialized at an earlier age and at each click of their computer button.

The new MacGyver may have the age thing spot on and with their target market's whims, desires & aspirations. I only have to go to hockey's Connor McDavid as an example of this. He's already the Captain of his team, is poised to win the NHL scoring championship this year, and is on the verge of being dubbed the best hockey player in the world. And all @ just 20 years old. Once upon a time, you wouldn't get a sniff at pro hockey unless you served time, rode busses, and ate burgers and fries for a few years in the minor leagues. That's all changed now.


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QUOTE (jdsak @ 31 March 2017 - 04:45 PM)
1. Wish Mac was a little older in this series.... maybe in his early 30's. I know they need to appeal to the younger crowd, but I just think having him a little older, having more experience would be more believable for me. But this is TV and not real life, so I just need to get over it.

I've been wondering for a while now why MacGyver's hair is getting shorter and shorter with each episode (especially since Lucas said at ComicCon he wouldn't mind a mullet for the second season or at least letting the hair getting longer a bit as the season goes on).

But if you compare the newest episodes to the pilot, he looks several years older now. Maybe they took the complaints about him looking so young into consideration. It's not like they tried to make him younger than Lucas is in real life, anyway. Even in the character descriptions for the unaired pilot, MacGyver is said to be 25 (although that really didn't work out so well there, even though I don't agree with Peter Lenkov's mention that he looked like 15 there).

I have to admit I liked the hair better in the first few episodes; it looks more "MacGyver" to me. But I'm fine with it as long as he doesn't get the same haircut as Jack Dalton laugh.gif .



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I agree with the comments about Mac being a bit too young in this.
I'm not sure why some showrunners think a protagonist needs to be young in order to appeal to kids. Kids loved Indiana Jones, Han Solo, Rocky Balboa, and, yes, the original MacGyver. Kids don't need to feel that protagonists are their contemporaries, they need to feel that the protagonist is someone they could become one day. When I watched the original MacGyver, I was in my teens. I knew Mac was quite a bit older than me, but that didn't detract from my enjoyment at all.

And yeah, I know I've said it before, the but age problem is exacerbated by the fact that this version of Mac gets chaperoned everywhere he goes. It makes him seem more child-like and less self-sufficient.

I also agree with DashboardOnFire that Mac has been looking a bit older in the more recent episodes, which is a good thing. Next season should be even better in that regard. As for the shorter hair, I noticed it, too, but I don't mind it. As long as he never has the hair that he had in the scrapped pilot, I'm fine with it!



 
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I'm excited! I will be back to discuss episodes! I hope someone is tracking MacGyverisms, cuz they are too complex for me!



 
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QUOTE (DXS @ 9 September 2017 - 06:53 AM)
I'm excited! I will be back to discuss episodes! I hope someone is tracking MacGyverisms, cuz they are too complex for me!

Ah, see you there thumbsup.gif

I have to admit despite seeing every episode at least twice (once in English, once in German), I can't keep track of the MacGyverisms that well. They brush too quickly over them sad.gif



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