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| Posted by: MacGyverGod 6 July 2007 - 10:36 AM |
| Which episode(s) do you think is the worst of them all? There's just one rule. I know everyone is going to say The Coltons episode, there for that episode does not count. For me, well practically that list I send in, in the other topic. |
| Posted by: tandt14 6 July 2007 - 10:41 AM |
| The ONLY episode that cannot watch is Ugly Duckling. |
| Posted by: abacab 6 July 2007 - 11:09 AM |
| My least favorite was Passages, and then Black Rhino and Log Jam. And Jerico Games and To Be A Man and Unfinished Business and the clip shows and Birth Day... |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 6 July 2007 - 11:25 AM | ||
Tell me, how could you not like Passages? |
| Posted by: DXS 6 July 2007 - 11:56 AM |
| The worst episodes to me are (I think it's ODD TRIPLE), the one with the lady and the man, both are actors, driving in a red car, MacGyver gets with them somehow.... And, another BAD episode is the one with the guy who claims to be under cover and he's late for someone's Bar Mitzvah, and everyone claims he isn't an agent.... Forgot the name of the ep, that's how bad it is. DXS |
| Posted by: MacGyverGrrl 6 July 2007 - 12:04 PM |
| That would be Honest Abe, and I didn't care for it either. |
| Posted by: Reptile 6 July 2007 - 12:13 PM |
| Well for me, the worst episode would be Thin Ice. And here is the reason: I don't like hockey very much and this episode is all about it and also I think that there is just 1 macgyverism. But here is something funny about it... in 2002 when MacGyver was airing on our TV my TV was broken and I cannot watch it so later when I was at my friend's home I remembered that MacGyver is now airing so I power up the TV and just told my friend: "I hope it would not be Thin Ice episode" and of course, it was  |
| Posted by: MacGyverGrrl 6 July 2007 - 12:15 PM |
| I finally figured it out for me. The Enemy Within. That Blonde chick, dodn't know her name, shows about as much emotion and conviction in her character as a cardboard box. |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 6 July 2007 - 12:32 PM | ||||
Three for the Road is the one you mean.
Ingrid. It worked for me. She seemed fragile as Victoria Tomanova said in that dress but I'd say once in a commies uniform she would seem well trained. |
| Posted by: MacGyverGrrl 6 July 2007 - 01:05 PM |
| Sorry, MG. I still don't like her. |
| Posted by: Tygr 6 July 2007 - 01:30 PM |
Ugly Duckling and Unfinished Business Gahhh...  I liked Three For The Road and Honest Abe. Not favorites, but still funny. |
| Posted by: Reptile 6 July 2007 - 01:33 PM |
| Hmm as I can see many of you don't like Ugly Duckling, can you tell me why? It isn't my favorite episode but I also cannot say it's bad. Another plus it gets for me because this is the only episode I remember from 1997 - the first time MacGyver airing in our TVs here in Slovakia  |
| Posted by: MacGyverOnline 6 July 2007 - 02:24 PM |
| Thin Ice can't stand it.. wont watch it. followed very closely by "walking dead" |
| Posted by: tandt14 6 July 2007 - 03:07 PM | ||
The episode feels fake to me. I guess it is just the way MacGyver acts around the girl. I like the overall idea of a young "MacGyverlike" girl but the episode just doesn't work for me. It rubs me the wrong way. Very hard to explain. |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 6 July 2007 - 03:14 PM | ||||
That's ok, MacGyverGrrl, everyone has their own opinion. 
How come, Rock? Of course it's your opinion. I didn't like Thin Ice at first either. I learned to except it at first like a few other episodes. And I always liked The Walking Dead. He's very busy at that one. |
| Posted by: Old Fan 6 July 2007 - 04:26 PM |
| Didn't like Honest Abe and Walking Dead - both from season 7... I have to excuse some of the more vapid episodes from season 1 because, that early on in a show's life, the writers are still trying to find the character's voices and reason for being. Sometimes they get it right - sometimes not. Even so, we continued to watch because there was something about the show we liked and it did get better... Think of all the really odd episodes from season 1 of Stargate SG-1 and there were also some really brilliant ones. The first season is fragile. The last season is tired. Jump right in there.........   |
| Posted by: MacsChick 6 July 2007 - 06:00 PM |
| Most of season seven is intolerable to me. |
| Posted by: MacGirl 6 July 2007 - 08:40 PM |
| Honest Abe (just annoying... a badly warmed-over version of Jack of Lies... and JoL happens to be one of my faves) The Lost Amadeus (Lulu... AAACK!!) Three For the Road (the old guy is seriously stuck-up and irritating) The Odd Triple and Jack in the Box (the only Mac and Jack eppys I don't like) The Enemy Within (I agree with earlier posts that both Ingrid and Victoria are really flat and not believable, besides which, the plot seems really convoluted and kind of weak) Faith, Hope and Charity (I know some people love this one, but the two old ladies get annoying after awhile and the plot is really far-fetched) Soft Touch (even for a Penny eppy, it's waaay out there) |
| Posted by: Macs Lab Rat 7 July 2007 - 12:19 AM |
| I don’t like the dream ones. (Passages, serenity, MacGyvers women, Good Knight MacGyver) I hardly watch season 7. Some of them seem like they’ve given up before the end. I don’t think they should have stopped at 6 cause there is a few I like in season 7 but I wish those could have slotted in to the short season 6. There is a few odd ones through the early seasons that I hardly watch, so much so the have fallen out of memory and I can’t remember the names right now.  I hardly watch Thin ice and only even remembered it cause its been mentioned here already.  Ones with lack of fun, excitement and general lack of Macness just fall out of my memory. It don’t dislike them (like I dislike the dream episodes) its more they hardly registered with me, kind of how I think of the Coltons. It didn’t register as an episode that springs to mind when I read the topic title and it was only when Mgod mentioned it I remembered it. That make sense?  |
| Posted by: Sheepy 7 July 2007 - 12:32 AM |
| Guys?!?!?! I'm surprised noone mentioned CLEO ROCKS?! YUUUUUUUUCK! It's the dumbest, most irritating ep ever! The Black Corsage, just because the so called "accent" and the cheap storyline. Like the scene in the fun hall though Deep Cover Deadly Silents. Pinky... need I say more???? But the first one is the absolute worst-worst. It should've been called "Penny Sucks" instead of "Cleo Rocks" |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 7 July 2007 - 02:07 AM | ||||||||||||
With exception of MacGyver's Women those were like the best. Maybe not of the series but definitely season highlights. 
That's what I always figured too. Just adding the few better season 7 episodes in the 6th.
Don't know. Split Decision is one of them.
I liked The Black Corsage, but there are more like those with those flaws.
I wonder how come.
Yeah. From adventureous chick in Everytime She Smiles to scary chick(en) in Cleo Rocks.  |
| Posted by: jackwabbit 7 July 2007 - 07:34 PM |
| Oh, I second Cleo Rocks-up on my list of baddies! Love Murdoc eps, but...seriously? What? |
| Posted by: MacGyver 8 July 2007 - 08:53 PM |
| Sigh...I've said it before, I'll say it again- I like all the MacGyver episodes just fine. But obviously others have different opinions- thus the reason for this thread. And that's cool with me. (And yeah- I even like "The Coltons". It was meant to be a spinoff series from MacGyver- so of course, it focused on The Colton family and MacGyver didn't show up much. But he was there in the beginning and the end and I think it served as a great pilot. The Coltons have their own style of doing things and I like their characters pretty well. Had this been made into a show, I would have enjoyed watching it.) |
| Posted by: MACGYVERISMYDAD 9 July 2007 - 03:48 AM |
| Honest abe, I don't really like this episode much because the main character is annoying. Walking dead, I don't know why I don't like it but I just don't. |
| Posted by: abacab 9 July 2007 - 04:26 AM |
| I'll expand a little on my previous posting: Passages- Flat, boring, cheesy, sappy, overwrought, dramatic, badly written, badly acted, badly directed, hard to watch because somebody screwed up the focus, and a poor (VERY poor) use of John Anderson. My least favorite episode. (That's how I can't like it.) Eagles- Michael Macrae was fine in "The Challenge"- his evil character was well thought out and solidly acted. Here, he's just another actor put to waste. In particular, the mother is really, really bad. When she realises the villains are, in fact, evil (the eyes should have given it away) she turns wholly unbelievable. Plus the whole damn thing is cheesy as hell. Ick. Black Rhino- This one covers much of the same ground as "Eagles", but in a more dramatic, even less entertaining way. Cuba Gooding Jr. couldn't have picked a worse episode to introduce himself, and Kai Wulff turns in his weakest performance yet. The $40,000 spent on the mechanical rhino was the biggest waste they ever had. Log Jam- Not actually a terrible episode, but the female lead is totally unwatchable. Many people I've shown the first few minutes of the episode too were also turned way, way off by her shouts of "Tree killer!" and all that. Twenty Questions- Lisa was always a terminally weak character, although I could tolerate her in "Cease Fire". This is one episode too many. Her acting is awful- possibly the worst of anyone in the entire series- and the "teen alcoholic" thing is so overused (not just by Mac, but by everyone) that the writers did not need to waste an entire episode of the show on it. Poor. Jack in the Box- I'll probably get killed for this, but this is, by far, my least favorite Jack Dalton episode. The problem isn't Mac or Jack, or their friend- it's the villains. There are too many of them, they are too evil (by which I mean evil without a reason to be- and yes, I know what drives the episode), and they are poorly acted. And the episode is too "down". I expected a more upbeat vibe from a Dalton episode. Birth Day- Cheese. Rock the Cradle- See comments for "Birth Day". To Be A Man- Was I the only one who thought this one terribly prejudiced? Mac was rarely guilty of that, and when it did happen, it could take down an episode. The performance by a young Ajay Naidu is fine, but everything else is crap. |
| Posted by: j12752 9 July 2007 - 04:41 AM |
| Wow, so many named Honest Abe, and I found that episode hysterical!! One of the few in season 7 I liked - Good Knight MacGyver being another, besides the last 2 episodes and Obsession, I like that one too. Thin Ice?? wow, what's not to like about Mac in a suit???? I can't stand Trumbo's World or The Walking Dead |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 9 July 2007 - 05:59 AM | ||||||||
| Didn't like Thin Ice at first either, but like some other episodes you learn to watch it. Like The Prodigal, Fraternity of Thieves and Gold Rush. Thin Ice has a great second match with the kid hitting his head against the goal. Everybody in the crowd gasping and MacGyver who can't do nothing about it. Besides MacGyver is trying to teach the players what he learned of Harry when he was young: Fair play.
Flat: nope, boring: nope, cheesy: maybe little bit, but how would you be if you haven't seen your parents in like almost thirty years. Sappy: nope, overwrought: nope, dramatic: yep, but that's a good thing. Badly written: nope. John Sheppard proofed with this one, that he is the best. Badly acted: nope. Badly directed: nope. Hard to watch because somebody screwed up the focus: that was like the intention of the afterlife scenes. To give everything a peaceful and "dead" look. A very poor use of John Anderson: nope. I was glad to see him again after 62 episodes. This was like the only episode where they almost succeeded in killing MacGyver. This is a classic.
I agree on this though. Eagles is not a bad episode but the mother and the boy... oh boy. And dog's barking didn't match either.
Have you seen the chainsaw fight?
Jenny's Chance is all the more worse than this one. Jack in the Box is indeed the darkest adventure to me that Jack pulled Mac into. The villains were cool enough. Lance Legault always plays these kind of characters and warden Renfro was okay too. Those were actually the only real two villains. And Lyle also had just two scenes or something. Robin Mosley was just a little squealer and that guy Mac asks if he'd seen Jack Dalton just showed up for a brief minute. |
| Posted by: abacab 9 July 2007 - 06:25 AM | ||||
In your mind, maybe. It would seem that not everybody else thinks exactly the same way you do. I don't dislike "Passages" as a personal affront to you. |
| Posted by: j12752 9 July 2007 - 06:37 AM |
| Passages is a great episode imo, love the take on "life after death", something most people wonder about.......... |
| Posted by: tandt14 9 July 2007 - 06:40 AM |
| I, too, agree with MG and j12752. Passages is a great episode. One of my all time favorites. We get to see MacGyver "tie up" some loose ends--finally getting to tell his parents how much he loves them and that he was sorry for not being there for them. And, he gets to tell Harry goodbye. |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 9 July 2007 - 07:18 AM | ||||||
None taken. I'm always a bit protective towards the series and trying to show others the good sides of it. |
| Posted by: Sheepy 9 July 2007 - 08:56 AM |
| I think my taste of fav episodes are totally different. Loved Passages too, and Eagles (it's an outdoor episode, I totally forget about the cheesy kid) I even loved Walking Dead. It's one of the episodes I remembered watching when I was just a Lamby. (get it? ) and I didn't remember it because it was tacky.Cleo Rocks sucks. Big time. Please put us all out of our misery and just shoot that stupid brat. Kill her off and get it over and done with  |
| Posted by: j12752 9 July 2007 - 09:04 AM |
| I love "Harry" episodes, almost as much as Jack Dalton ones |
| Posted by: MacGirl 14 July 2007 - 09:39 PM |
| Oh, I almost forgot: I CAN'T STAND Deadly Silents. Pinky is one of the whiniest, worst-written characters ever, and the bad guys are just too stupid to be believable. (Plus, who came up with the title for this one?? Was it a bad joke that got out of hand??) And I don't like the "alternate reality" eppys, with the exception of Passages. They're just overly silly for my taste. I also don't like the "undercover" eppys. Guess I just don't find them very believable. |
| Posted by: Nutsy 15 July 2007 - 12:43 AM |
| (If The Coltons doesn't count) I seem to always find a reason for liking an episode one way or another, even when I may think that perhaps the plot is weak, the acting is not so good, or even the guest actors are terrible! Didn't like Birth Day. Didn't like MacGyver's Women: a bit too much over the top for me. The forced marriage topic, Murphy in that outfit (!)... |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 15 July 2007 - 06:49 AM | ||
The outfit from the dream or from the houseboat? |
| Posted by: j12752 18 July 2007 - 07:35 AM | ||
2 I don't like either, never watch either if they're on rerun. Though the commercial with RDA as 1880's MacGyver plugging the episode was cute, one of the little gems I have after 7 years of taping the show |
| Posted by: MacGyverfan717 6 August 2007 - 06:25 PM |
| I don't like "Passages" at all becouse I don't believe that's what the afterlife is really like. "Thin Ice" was ok becouse it had a good moral in the end. "The ugly Duckling" wasen't too bad, but that girl really did start to get on my nerves! |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 7 August 2007 - 12:51 PM | ||
Of course it's not like that it's just an assumption and a good one too. |
| Posted by: Mac 7 August 2007 - 01:31 PM |
| The hockey ep whose name I can never bother to remember, where Mac is coaching a friends' kid who is too violent. Zzzzzzzzz Oh, and 'Honest Abe', although that one did have a few memorable moments (Mac shaving!  )Mac bored just thinking about it |
| Posted by: Liz1976 14 June 2008 - 06:57 AM |
| Well, in reading all of the old topics I gave a lot of thought to the question: out of the "bad episodes" which I have already listed my opinion for under the best of the worst episodes, are there any that I simply hate, loathe to point that they are unwatchable. 1. Walking Dead 2. Deadly Silents 3. MacGyver's Women (the Wall is watchable at least)---but Maria, plus Jenny changed completely from Runners, and Murphy who should have been given a better storyline here 4. The Hood is definately not a fave--Kelly is annoying, not a fan of Mama Lorraine's or the whole bohemian neighborhood thing--much preferred the houseboat, but I can watch it for the character of Mel Krasney 5. Honest Abe (and I watched the first half the other night--so I tried) I love MacGyver seasons 1-6 minus one episode because of the script and the storyline with Maria. As said beofre I had no problem with Mac dating, but have meet a decent woman like Kate Malloy or Debra Easton, not a deadly agent with a chip on her shoulder like Maria, or one like Lisa Kohler who has been hired to seduce him--that's just wrong!! The rest I can watch happily and be thoroughly entertained by--some like Trumbo's World and Eagles (I like Eagles by the way) I can watch with my children and not worry about what kind of smut they are going to see--more than I can say for TV today. Some episodes like the Challenge I haven't yet shown my daughter, due to its content--the scene where Mac finds Booker and the scenes that follow are very deep and very intense. This is a show we can show our kids and say "here's a show I loved as a kid and still enjoy". A thought. |
| Posted by: Jediferret 27 May 2013 - 02:08 PM |
| This one is kind of a hard one for me, as I like most of the episodes. If I have to pick one, it would have to be MacGyver's Women. It's the episode I love to hate because it just irked me to no end... and I do believe they intentionally wrote it that way. I felt REALLY bad for Mac when he had to retreat to his bedroom in his own place. The rest of the episode I have a hard time watching... last time I made the attempt, I fell asleep. XD The ending was kinda cute though. I felt Maria kinda redeemed herself at the end by being sweet. But... that's about it. |
| Posted by: AussieMacFan 27 May 2013 - 10:25 PM |
I vote The Coltons as my least favourite.  |
| Posted by: MDBfan 28 May 2013 - 04:40 AM |
| I'm not a huge fan of "Good Knight MacGyver". Sorry! I know most of you enjoy this two parter. It's hard to explain why I don't like it, though. And I don't think it's the worst episode. If I rule out "The Coltons", for me it's a close race between "The Lost Amadeus", "Harry's Will" and "MacGyver's Women". "The Lost Amadeus": I can't stand Lulu. I know that she was meant to be naive and chatty but I think it's too much to be charming. After this episode I feel bad for any negative thoughts I may have had for Penny. Now I like her. She should have been in this episode instead of Lulu. Well, Penny doesn't play the violin...  "Harry's Will": I really like Harry. And I like the talk he and MacGyver had (in flashback) on the hockey court. But that's all I find positive about this. Big Mama would have be cool on her own but there's too many weird characters here! That guy at the end was just over the top.  "MacGyver's Women" was a disappointment. However, I like the Western setting and MacGyver looks cute with a mustache. To sum up: To pick one is hard. This is just my thoughts. I hope I haven't offended anyone by critizicing their favourite episode! |
| Posted by: mac8 28 May 2013 - 07:44 AM |
| The Coltons is my least favorite episode. |
| Posted by: Daisy8577 28 May 2013 - 08:47 AM |
| My least favorite eppy would be The Lost Amedaus. |
| Posted by: Mac1977 28 May 2013 - 08:25 PM |
| The Coltons is my least favorite episode too. After the beginnigs bomb scene it does't feel like MacGyver episode at all because Mac isn't in it. |
| Posted by: Mac Jackson 29 May 2013 - 08:10 AM |
| My gradeing on this depends on how much MacGyver is in the episode. So less him, less I enjoy it. Such as the Coltons, Jenny's Chance and Twice Stung. Never crazy about the "group sting" episodes. |
| Posted by: Joe SAKic 30 May 2013 - 05:19 PM |
Well, after having viewed Season 1 only - I'd have to say <so far> it's ' Every Time She Smiles'. I really think they should have (more appropriately) named it 'Every Time She Babbles'.   I just ordered Season 2 (& 3) online and I'm hoping/praying that Penny Parker's presence will be kept to an absolute minimum. |
| Posted by: Wheeljack 2 June 2013 - 08:05 PM |
| I'll just say all of Season 7 and leave it at that. And I don't believe I've even seen all it's episodes, watching it just makes me depressed and wanna die. |
| Posted by: AussieMacFan 2 June 2013 - 08:19 PM |
| Aww, don't die! The 7th season isn't that bad. I first fell in love with Walking Dead, when I started on Mac. |
| Posted by: Wheeljack 2 June 2013 - 09:14 PM |
| Oh it's ok, as long as I stay away from 7 I'm ok. And my doctor tells they are also currently working on a medication that will make you believe you are watching the previous seasons while suffering through 7. lol Walking Dead vs. Mac would be awesome! I'm afraid he'd have to quickly change his mind about firearms though. Or maybe not. |
| Posted by: AussieMacFan 2 June 2013 - 10:25 PM |
| Oh, I've never actually seen Walking Dead, only the MacGyver episode, from the 7th season. That last post was really badly worded because I was in a rush. |
| Posted by: YopeGyver 3 June 2013 - 05:46 AM |
| Pardon this secluded little person, but what is "Walking Dead"? Not the episode. X3 I've seen some people mention it on other sites but I'm just not up to date on all this stuff. Lol, I think I was born in the wrong time period xD. |
| Posted by: Daisy8577 3 June 2013 - 06:12 AM |
Don't worry you are not alone Yope, I haven't seen it either. I am a bit sheltered at times too!  |
| Posted by: YopeGyver 3 June 2013 - 06:35 AM |
Sheltered is good, right?  For the most part, that is.Lol, the most modern tv show I've seen is Stargate SG1 and that was just recent. Before MacGyver, I'd never gone past the 70s and even that was rare xD. I think I'd have to say The Coltons was my least favorite. When I started the episode, I had no idea it wasn't a Mac centered ep. I was so disappointed. XD |
| Posted by: Daisy8577 3 June 2013 - 06:59 AM |
| There are some good shows from the 80s too. Not much good stuff on TV these days. It's been a long while since I've seen the Colton's episode. Seeing others comments on it maybe I will skip that one. |
| Posted by: MDBfan 3 June 2013 - 10:56 AM | ||
LOL! I understand how you feel. In my case, I'm not crazy about the neighbourhood thing. And I miss the houseboat. However, I don't think season 7 is THAT bad. I just finished watching those episodes a couple of days ago. I was positively surprised (I've read some negative comments about the season somewhere before ) and I enjoyed quite a few of them. I think "The Prometheus Syndrome", "Deadly Silents" and "The Mountain of Youth" are good. But I'm glad we all have different opinions. Imagine how boring it would be if all of the Mac Pack felt the same about the episodes.  I haven't watched "The Walking Dead" series either. I don't think I like zombies... |
| Posted by: Mela_007 3 June 2013 - 01:16 PM |
| For me I think The Coltons is the worst with MacGyver's Women a close second. I agree that there were several good shows in the 80s, but much past that I haven't watched much new stuff either (except SG-1 in my case recently as well). I haven't seen the Walking Dead either. I'm guessing by the title it's another Zombie thing, but personally I don't get the whole zombie craze thing anyway.  |
| Posted by: Wheeljack 3 June 2013 - 09:20 PM |
| Ok, season 7 walking dead EPISODE, got it. But seriously, none of you guys have seen this show? Geez, and I don't have cable or even a tv set! Like zombies or not, it's still one of the best shows out there right now as far as drama, suspense and action. And it's also creepy at times, goes without saying. It mops the floor with anything on regular network tv, including all the crappy CSIs, Law & Order: Grumpy Cop Units, and non-funny sitcoms. Of course I can't speak for the whole world, just here in the US. |
| Posted by: YopeGyver 4 June 2013 - 05:36 AM |
| I don't get the zombie craze either *scratches head*...or werewolves, or vampires, or who knows what's next. XD No offense to anyone who enjoys that kind of thing. MDB: I enjoyed "The Prometheus Syndrome" too, but you're right, I miss the houseboat too. I haven't seen "MacGyver's Women" yet.  |
| Posted by: BrakeFluid 3 July 2013 - 07:37 AM |
| The one about Lisa's drinking problem. No matter how much older I get, watching that one feels like I'm back in that assembly we all had in high school with the guy who killed his own kid in a DUI wreck preaching to us to never, ever touch a beer or we'll ruin our lives too. I actually like "MacGyver's Women", but I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only one who does. As for "The Coltons," I don't really consider that a MacGyver episode at all. But if I did, that'd probably be the worst. |
| Posted by: Miasma 11 July 2013 - 09:56 AM | ||
I think TV has actually gotten better than it was in the 80s. The production values, acting and writing tend to be much better these days. I watched the first season of "Walking Dead," and even though I'm not into zombies, I thought the show was really well done. I should watch the other seasons one of these days. I'm currently watching "Breaking Bad," which is excellent. "Mad Men" is another really well made show, as is "Homeland." Going back a bit, "24" was a great action show (and I'm really excited that they're bringing it back!!), and I thoroughly enjoyed "Lost," in spite of a few bumps along the way. So there's definitely some good stuff out there! I think the main difference is that the shows have become a bit more mature. There's maybe less good stuff out there for kids, which is a shame. Back on topic... My least favorite episodes. Hmm.. It's been a while since I watched the series, but here are some that come to mind, in no particular order: -Honest Abe: I don't think this requires any explanation. -MacGyver's Women: Such a disappointment after "Serenity" -Good Knight, MacGyver: (1) it was a dream, which is lame, and (2) I actually felt embarassed for the cast. The whole thing was just staggeringly corny. -Split Decision -Thin Ice: Seemed too self-indulgent, and I just didn't care about the plot. -Target MacGyver: I guess this one isn't too bad... at least it falls into the "so bad it's funny" category. -Friends: Bleh, a recap episode. -Twenty Questions: Felt like an after-school special. And pitting Mac against a bunch of highschool kids? Seriously? -Harry's Will: I have no idea what they were all smoking when they made this episode, but I do know it was some POWERFUL stuff! -Hindsight: Bleh, another recap episode. -Deadly Silents: "The brainy dude!" Enough said. -Off The Wall: Can't remember much about it, other than that I didn't like it. Wasn't there also an episode in which Mac was a race-car driver? I didn't like that one either. Just like "Thin Ice," it felt too self-indulgent, and also a bit too random. |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 11 July 2013 - 10:38 AM |
| Interesting there is a show called The Walking Dead and we have our own Walking Dead episode. What that episode is concerned, it's one of my favorites of the seventh season. I think it's one of the harder episodes. Also I read something about zombies on wiki a while back. They say the origin of the 'zombie' lays somewhere in the vodoun religion. Actually forget what George A. Romero did with zombies in his movies. The way it's presented in the Mac-episode comes close to what I've read. Zombies are in fact soulless peoples serving their masters. Just what Cherine was supposed to become. At least that's what I read, 'but those are myths. Ar- aren't they?  ' Maybe we just have to open our minds.  Now back on topic: Thief of Budapest, Ugly Duckling, To Be A Man, The Escape Twice Stung, Jenny's Chance, The Lost Amadeus, MacGyver's Women, Split Decision are amongst my least favorite episodes. Some though I've learned to appreciate like The Prodigal, Fire and Ice, Deep Cover, Deadly Silents... Just like MacJackson I was never into sting episodes. I think the best one was Fire and Ice. Earlier this year I watched the series mixed and it might be odd but by getting older, I understand some episodes better than when growing up. This mostly with Live and Learn and Twenty Questions. It's like been there done that. In my case Live and Learn. |
| Posted by: sonyab1974 20 July 2013 - 03:27 PM |
| I HATED MacGyver's Women!!! All they did was man bash, and Macgyver bash! What the hell?! That episode should never be shown again. |
| Posted by: sonyab1974 20 July 2013 - 03:30 PM | ||
Yes! I loved the Western part of the episode. So we can fast forward the beginning part, and the end part, and enjoy the Western part. |
| Posted by: AussieMacFan 20 July 2013 - 04:06 PM |
Actually, I quite liked MacGyver's Women, it was one of the first episodes I ever saw. It's not the best episode, but I don't think it's the worst. The same goes for The Lost Amadeus...  |
| Posted by: Matrix 20 July 2013 - 05:00 PM |
| My Least Favorite Episodes? Thief of Budapest Flames End Every Time She Smiles Ugly Duckling Slow Death The Escape Twice Stung The Road Not Taken Soft Touch Friends For Love or Money Thin Ice Second Chance The Lost Amadeus Twenty Questions MacGyver's Women Hind Sight Honest Abe The Hood The Coltons Good Knight MacGyver Split Decision Off the Wall The Mountain of Youth |
| Posted by: KiwiTek 20 July 2013 - 05:17 PM |
| Deadly Silents (really can't stand this episode) Walking Dead Harry's Will The Coltons Honest Abe To Be a Man. |
| Posted by: Rocket 21 July 2013 - 11:15 AM |
I'm not a big fan of Legend of the Holy Rose part 2, but least favourites for me have to be the couple in the first season where they used big chunks of footage from other films. Thief of Budapest used the Mini chases from The Italian Job and another one (forget which now) used a lot of Funeral in Berlin. It's the one with the coffin-jetski anyway. Recognising a bit of something else spliced into the episode takes me clean out of the story at hand  Interesting that they seem to poach most from Michael Caine films... |
| Posted by: MacGirl 25 July 2013 - 12:38 PM |
| My least favorites (in no particular order): Lost Amadeus- Lulu makes Penny look like a freaking genius... ugh Deadly Silents- Pinky is just ANNOYING! The Penny Parker episodes, with the exception of Secret of Parker House and Cleo Rocks... the latter mostly because it's a Murdoc episode. Oh, and Penny's OK in Friends, too. The "dream sequence"/alternate reality/undercover episodes, with the exception of Passages... not sure why, just don't care for them Honest Abe- Abe was funny for maybe two minutes, then he *really* wore on me! |
| Posted by: denizen 4 September 2013 - 01:25 AM |
| Truth be told, the best episodes were of Mac in the DXS. Flowing into the Phoenix Foundation, Mac started to slowly take on less "Bond" style missions and more proactive duties for the envrionment. Toward the 7th season, Mac's adventures were not as great as they used to be. Yes, the infamous Coltons episode was a disappointment. Further to that, Trail to Doomsday movie as also terrible. If I had to endessly watch episodes from a particular season, I would probably choose the early seasons. |
| Posted by: MiracleMac 9 October 2013 - 09:15 AM |
| The Madonna from season 5 ....holy jesus.. |
| Posted by: RyLo10 14 May 2014 - 04:01 AM |
| I'm hard pressed to pick one. But there aren't that many that I don't like. I seriously watch episodes from every season regularly. "The Coltons" really doesn't bother me that much. And "MacGyver's Women" is ok. But some I don't like are "Harry's Will" (Ridiculous characters and terrible acting. Thought it was going to be promising with Henry Winkler at the beginning but nope.) "There But For the Grace" (Has a nice message but is very boring.) "The Mountain of Youth" (Not entirely sure why I dislike this episode. Mac and Jack back together again after a long time. Should be good. I just don't like it. The whole Kabulstan setting bothers me.) And there's probably a couple episodes from season 2 I don't care for but can't think of them. Other than that, I can watch pretty much any episode on any disc I pop in the dvd player. |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 16 May 2014 - 06:23 AM |
| There But For The Grace is not so bad at all. It's a little more depressing though. The Mountain of Youth well is set in a fictional country, just like some others like Black Rhino, it's indeed not exactly specified where Kabulstan is located. Supposed to be in a tropical area. I think the military aspect adds to the adventure. |
| Posted by: KiwiTek 16 May 2014 - 03:09 PM | ||
Maybe not firearms, but definitely killing. Although technically they are already dead so... |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 17 May 2014 - 09:13 AM |
| Might be interesting to find out which MacGyverisms he would do to defeat actual zombies. Zombie bodies are I think much softer than human bodies so probably something with considerable force might take their heads off anyway. There you have your MacGyverness and gore in one. |
| Posted by: cirubit 17 May 2014 - 11:39 AM |
| The worst episodes, for me, are: THE MADONNA THIN ICE EARLY RETIREMENT (Those episodes don't have Macgyverisms) THE SPLIT DECISON Probably the worst, ever! I like HONEST ABE, THREE FOR THE ROAD and others instead you don't like. |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 17 May 2014 - 04:50 PM |
| The Madonna (weights for wheels) Thin Ice (fixed Mr. Kirby's machine) Early Retirement (smoke screen in train car) Simple, quick fixes but MacGyverisms nonetheless. Can't agree more on Split Decision though. |
| Posted by: cirubit 18 May 2014 - 12:51 AM | ||
Yes, but I want to see episodes with many macgyverisms, end except in EARLY RETIREMENT, those tricks are useless about the plot! |
| Posted by: macgybl 18 May 2014 - 05:52 PM |
| Trumbo's World (The ants footage gives me the chills) To Be a man. (Horrible ADR) The Wish Child Birthday Mask of Wolf Murderes Sky Secret of Parker House Ma Dalton Cleo Rocks Runners Black Rhino Two Times Trouble Most of Season 6 and 7 |
| Posted by: John Litteral 21 May 2014 - 05:32 PM |
| I dont think there is an episode that I dislike. Thief of Budapest is one that sort of bores me but I still like it. The first season is probably my least favorite because Mac's character had not yet developed and was too smooth. I like later when we see his side that gets annoyed and frustrated at times. I do have scenes that I hate and at the top of my list is in Squeeze Play when he throws the ball for Novis and knocks the sign down to stop the bad guy. I also cant stand yhat stupid bear joke in (cant remember the name of episode) and the girl says "thats an old joke" and he says "im an old boyfriend". Makes me want to puke everytime. |
| Posted by: Joe SAKic 21 May 2014 - 07:03 PM |
| I'll have to go with - The Lost Amadeus. It's not that is was so bad, it's just that the script had sooo much potential ... and then there was Lulu and all that slapstick. It could/should/would of in a perfect MacGyver world have more appropriate guest casting and with a more serious/cultured/sexy tone. They really missed the boat on this opportunity. |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 23 May 2014 - 09:04 AM | ||
Squeeze Play was more like: 'Yeah, right!' How about just knocking the ball over the scoreboard instead and make it land on the car? The episode you're talking about is The Endangered. I think it wasn't so bad, there's a lot cheesier stuff in it like Penny's forced crying and screaming. |
| Posted by: Makedde 4 June 2014 - 03:09 AM |
| MacGyver's Women and that other episode in which he dreamed about being in the wild west. Must have been so crap I forgot the name. And any episode in which we have nothing but flashbacks. Like 'Friends'. Dreadful. |
| Posted by: Joe SAKic 4 June 2014 - 06:26 AM |
| I have to admit that I have not yet attempted to watch Good Knight MacGyver - Part 2 ... that's because the flowery lines and lack of action in Part 1 has put me to snore - the three times I tried to watch it. I haven't given up entirely on it yet though .... and will try, try again! |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 4 June 2014 - 10:07 AM | ||
Serenity is one of the best episodes in the fifth season. |
| Posted by: Joe SAKic 4 June 2014 - 12:09 PM |
| .... I'll second that! |
| Posted by: MiracleMac 8 June 2014 - 10:45 AM |
| Definetly The Madonna and Target MacGyver. In Target MacGyver the bad guys shooted everything which exploded, it somehow looked ridicilous, and the bullets didn't made holes to that small tin grill... oh my god  just probably bad acting. In Madonna, I think, I missed some kind of action, because I've get used to it, that every episode will have it, but the way and the story was different so thats why, it was that kind of what it was. I also didn't liked those dream episodes like Goodknight MacGyver and Serenity, those Native American episodes were fine, like Trail Of Tears. |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 8 June 2014 - 11:11 AM |
| The Madonna is kind of cheesy in my opinion. But I think it's because it's the Christmas episode. |
| Posted by: MACGYVERISMYDAD 9 June 2014 - 08:02 AM |
| Lost Amadeus-Lulu is annoying Deadly Silence-pinky is annoying Black Rhino- I hate animal abuse Two Times Trouble-Just find this episode strange The episode with the pimp and the girl-also a strange topic for Macgyer Any of the Cowboy episodes- Just can't seem to enjoy them Legend of the holy rose- Zoey is annnoying Rush to judgement the ten percent solution --These 4 are just bad topics for me. I always feel sad when watching. children of the light The challenge So most of the episodes I dislike are because of the characters in them. Some of the subjects of the episodes were just to upsetting to enjoy. I don't want to think about racism or the holocaust or animal abuse when I sit down to enjoy my favorite show. Watching tv for me is my way of getting away from the real world and the troubles that come with it. I do admit, I do enjoy watching rescue 911 and other shows as well which can vary well be emotional for me but I go into that show knowing what to expect. With Macgyver, you just don't expect it to be a heart string tugging show. And Lastly The Stringer- I only dislike this episode because it is the end to our all time favorite show. I always wondered if his son didn't come back, would the show have continued. Also we see how extreme Petes loss of eyesight is. Plus the jetpack escape is a little over the top, but I can see why they wanted an extreme excape for the final episode. |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 9 June 2014 - 09:40 AM |
| But episodes like Black Rhino, Two Times Trouble, Runners, Rush To Judgment, The Ten Percent Solution, Children of Light and The Challenge all use very real subjects and themes. That's what makes MacGyver MacGyver. You know that the rhino was an animatronic? Yet a very disturbing scene indeed. Two Times Trouble there is an article here somewhere I think in the topic itself that twins suffer from severe depression if one of them dies and sometimes attempt to bring back their dead brother and sister by becoming them. It's maybe not a very common theme but an interesting one. Runners is just a teen episode. What's so odd about it? Crystal ran away from home, crossed paths with the wrong person, meets Mac who helps her straight with help from Cynthia. Sounds typical Mac. The Ten Percent Solution is one of the harder episodes, just like The Challenge. I just have this thing with WO II for one thing. I think it's something very educational. You know it's your right to dislike these episodes, but I think all these episode contains good messages and lessons. Like be kind to animals and each other. On most of you're other episodes, I kinda agree. |
| Posted by: MACGYVERISMYDAD 10 June 2014 - 08:41 AM | ||
World issues were not always the main focus target of the show especially in the earlier episodes, but they became more prevalent in the later seasons. What got me hooked was Macgyver going in and defusing a bomb or testing a state of the art security system. It was action packed and very entertaining. Towards the end, it started focusing more on current problems with the world such as poverty, drug abuse, racism, ect. I am ok with this to a degree but then they started taking out the action and the macgyverisms little by little and my opionion that is what hurts some of these episodes as well. Many people got into the show for the action and macyverisms and when they started taking those out, you start taking out your target audience. I do know the rhino was animatronic but it looks so real, it just makes me sad. I know it's good for people to experience these world problems so that we can better ourselves and try and take steps towards fixing them and I also agree that it does teach people important life lessons in humanity which is needed even more right now. Not really knocking these episodes, just stating why they are my least favorites. Even though they are not my favorites, I still pop them in from time to time and shed a tear. |
| Posted by: zoeryan 22 October 2018 - 10:19 PM |
No surprise I found this thread while watching Season 7, it's almost like a different show by this point.  Most of my least favorites are in 7: The Walking Dead (don't like the subject matter) Deadly Silents (really with the building drop ready to go?) The Coltons (no Mac) Good Knight MacGyver (I know this is a popular one but I think it's soooo corny, Merlin being such a fool was annoying) However 7 does have a couple highlights, Obsessed is good, The Stringer, and I actually liked Honest Abe, I find all the deep cover spies hilarious. There are definitely others I'm not fond of, but I wouldn't call those the worst, just not my favorite subject matter. I actually like the group sting episodes like Fire and Ice, and Penny episodes for the most part. |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 23 October 2018 - 03:01 AM |
| Still I think season 7 tried to bring back some of the show's basic elements like escapes but I think it was already too late. These are the ones that I don't like or didn't like at first or maybe now have second thoughts about. Thief of Budapest: never liked it. The Prodigal: didn't like it at first but it grew on me. Flame's End: never really liked it. The Enemy Within: not a great episode but watchable. Every Time She Smiles: not great but watchable. To Be A Man: just a terrible episode. Ugly Duckling: terrible. The Escape: terrible. Twice Stung: I hate stingers and this is pretty much the only episode in the second season that I don't like. Fire and Ice: Another stinger but it grew on me, great score. GX-1: didn't like at first but it grew on me. Thin Ice: was not so great first but it grew on me. Secret of Parker House: I like the episode in general but Teri Hatcher is simply acting terrible here. Cleo Rocks: again I like the episode in general but once more Teri is the problem here. The ending was great, a great escape and fight makes up for a lot in this episode. Fraternity of Thieves: just not a great episode. Gold Rush: Not a great one either but I think it grew on me. Jenny's Chance: another stinger. Deep Cover: having Dexter twice is kinda pushing it but I think it's ok now. The Lost Amadeus: simply Lulu. MacGyver's Women: worst of the bunch. That one really is terrible in every department. Serenity was such a classic and then they ruined it with this one. Deadly Silents: didn't like it at first but it grew on me. Split Decision: second worst of the bunch. You may have noticed that I have not mentioned Soft Touch in the list. That is actually one I like more then I thought. Maybe it's even my favorite of the Penny Parker episodes (or maybe I should go with Serenity on that one?) but here in this episode and also in Every Time She Smiles she's not the scream queen she thinks she is when she's not in Secret of Parker House and Cleo Rocks. She at least bothered to run and not scream when something happens. I also didn't put The Coltons in it because actually it's not a real Mac-episode to begin with. They just added it to the show. |
| Posted by: Hannibal_Smith 28 October 2018 - 10:49 AM |
| I have to say that I have a really hard time thinking of any episode that I straight up didn't like. Yeah, there were some that I liked less than others, many of which have been named here. But episodes that I hated so much that I actually refuse to watch them, skip over them if I'm watching, and have headcanoned out of existence? Episodes like "Hathor" in Stargate SG-1, in other words? No. I can't think of anything in MacGyver that's like that. I'll even double down on that and say that I actually liked "The Coltons" just fine, and in fact would have watched the heck out of that spin-off. That may be because I'm a sucker for world-building, and the Coltons were a part of the MacGyververse that I always liked. I'd certainly have been happy to trade Penny or Milt Bozer for more of them. (Also, I'm kicking myself for only realizing very recently that they're all named after famous Western outlaws. Frank and Jesse as in Frank and Jesse James, and of course, Billy, who's "the Kid" in the family). |
| Posted by: Hannibal_Smith 28 October 2018 - 11:00 AM | ||
Nitpicky, but actually I'd say it was always a show about "world issues," just that what those issues were changed over time. Season 1 was a spy show in which he fought Soviet Bloc enemies, international terrorists, shady third world dictators, etc. A lot of spy shows don't do that - they skip the current events and have the heroes fighting supervillains or imaginary conspiracies instead of doing anything that might be topical and therefore offend some people, so the fact that MacGyver didn't choose to do that is worth noting and kind of set the stage for later. Few things were a bigger "world issue" in 1985 than the Cold War. |
| Posted by: zoeryan 28 October 2018 - 02:10 PM | ||
Dang, MacGyverGod you have quite the list! That's an interesting perspective to Season 7 - but the majority of the plot lines are Mac just being practically retired and getting pulled into various neighborhood/friend drama. Obsessed was a great exception - Mac actually at the Phoenix Foundation for once, and the Stringer as well since it was an actual assignment. It gets hard to believe after a while that Mac can't walk to his car on a day off without being pulled into a major incident with gun carrying bad guys RDA also doesn't seem his spry self of the early seasons either  |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 28 October 2018 - 02:40 PM | ||||||
Yeah, it may seem like a lot, probably worth a full season but I really don't like those and even if most come out of season 1, I don't think that's a bad season at all. Meanwhile everyone is complaining there aren't any random lone wolf adventures while season 7 is full of it. Go figure.
Named after? I never thought of this actually until you pointed it out but I think it's more coincidence than that they're named after them. |
| Posted by: Persona non grata 30 October 2018 - 03:31 PM |
| Legend of the Holy Rose is a wet slap in the face if you have even the vaguest possible familiarity with Britain. And Zoe doesn't help there. |
| Posted by: zoeryan 30 October 2018 - 05:28 PM | ||
I would say every foreign country is equally egregiously portrayed! |
| Posted by: Joe SAKic 30 October 2018 - 06:54 PM | ||||
Actually, ironically - the majority of the episodes were filmed in a foreign country and (well) made to look like the USA. |
| Posted by: zoeryan 30 October 2018 - 09:31 PM | ||||||
Yes - so you can include America on that list - as subbing Vancouver for Los Angeles is just a tad inaccurate!  (even though I love the PNW setting so I never minded - although I always thought the snow and visible breath was hilarious for "CA") Do you know if the houseboat is still in Vancouver? Next time I'm there I would totally go check it out if so, can't find much searching for it. |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 31 October 2018 - 03:44 AM |
| The houseboat still lives on. It's been repainted and there has been renovations on the inside as well. You might wanna check here for more explaining and pictures. https://www.macgyveronline.com/news-info/behind-the-scenes/the-houseboat-today/ https://www.macgyveronline.com/news-info/behind-the-scenes/the-houseboat-today/ |
| Posted by: Joe SAKic 1 November 2018 - 05:01 AM | ||
SoCal maybe, those hilly regions in NorCal can get a lot of snow … my snowblower forum has many Californians aboard … I was surprised myself I think the stock video and macros were implemented/integrated extremely well in most instances. BC's diverse terrain much more tailored for international intrigue cum settings. Sure the panorama sans stock video were the bain/bugaboo … but it was circa 1980s and who was gonna notice or scrutinize …. someone with a VCR and endless time on their hands ….. |
| Posted by: Jediferret 1 November 2018 - 05:54 AM | ||
Last time I heard it was in Maple Ridge, BC. I'm not sure how far it is from Vancouver though. However, I believe you can rent it! I'm just about to head into work so I can find the listing. But, if you're going up that way, I would totally see if you can stay there. Edit: I found the original link the owner gave us to their Airbnb listing, but the listing was removed. Boo... I wish I had some time to dig, but... I am SWAMPED today. lol |
| Posted by: Phoenix38 3 July 2019 - 08:26 AM |
| My least favorite episodes ( in chronological order ) are: - Friends - Back From The Dead - Thin Ice - The Challenge - The Madonna - Live And Learn - The Lost Amadeus - Tough Boys - Twenty Questions - Harry's Will - There But For The Grace - Hind-Sight - Honest Abe - The Hood - The Coltons - Walking Dead - Deadly Silents - Split Decision - Gunz n Boys As you can see, many of the worst episodes comes from 6 and 7 seasons. Yes, those were quite weak seasons, especially the 7th, but they had some very good episodes, like Humanity, Lesson In Evil, Strictly Business, Obsessed, The Prometheus Syndrome. |
| Posted by: Barry Rowland 3 July 2019 - 09:29 AM |
| Ugly Duckling for me. Once was enough. |
| Posted by: cirubit 31 August 2019 - 11:43 PM |
| Bad episodes: THE MADONNA EARLY RETIREMENT SPLIT DECISION THE COLTONS But THIN ICE is the worst of the worsts! |
| Posted by: zoeryan 9 October 2019 - 06:05 PM | ||
I also have a hard time with most of season 7, but the highlights for me were Honest Abe, Obsessed and The Stringer. I really really don't like Good Knight MacGyver - it's sooo fake and irritating lol |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 10 October 2019 - 01:38 AM | ||||
"You've got to be kidding me." Good Knight MacGyver was my favorite when I was like 7 years old. And it still is one of my many favorites. Maybe it is because I saw it as a kid. Then you don't pay attention to a lot of other things that I notice as an adult. But this really is something you got to turn off your brain and just enjoy it. How can you not like Mac and Duncan's duel or the lavapit cliffhanger and escape, the dog scene, MacGyver finding out his name and the finale where he seemingly dramatically dies? I still think generally season 7 is not that bad. Yes, it was time to move on but there are still a lot of episodes that I keep in high regard. I like The 'Hood, Obsessed, Prometheus Syndrome, Walking Dead, Good Knight MacGyver, Gunz 'N Boyz, Off The Wall, The Stringer and Mountain of Youth. |
| Posted by: Miasma 10 October 2019 - 09:05 AM | ||
Totally agree. I don't know if I even watched Part 2 more than once. The first half was just so cringe-worthy. I really felt awkward for everyone involved (including the dogs wearing those goofy hats ) |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 11 October 2019 - 01:35 AM |
| I just wonder how Zeus came from Hawaii and ended up in Scotland in the 7th century. |
| Posted by: Dragondog 12 October 2019 - 08:52 PM | ||||||
Mac already knew his first name. But it was the first time the viewers discovered it |
| Posted by: MacGyverGod 13 October 2019 - 03:02 AM |
| Him or us, it's goosebumps anyway. |
| Posted by: Lelionceau 26 October 2019 - 08:51 AM |
I will say it, and maybe I'll change my mind later on : THERE ARE NO WORST EPISODES IN MACGYVER ^^ |