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007 – Last Stand

Airdate: 17 November 1985
Writer: Judy Burns
Director: John Florea

Guest Cast: Harry Caesar as Al Tennyson, Steve Franken as the pilot, Jackie Earle Haley as Turk, Art Hindle as Dave Redding,
Kay Lenz as Kelly Nelson, Michael McGuire as Andrews, Anthony Penya as Elias, Lewis Van Bergen as Buddy.

MacGyver must use his extraordinary skills to free hostages and thwart the armored-car robbers who are holding them at a desert airstrip.






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sonyab Posted on Oct 5 2004, 10:27 AM
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OHHHHH Great episode! This is where Mac does the macgyverism with the bicycle.. If anybody doesn't know this an 11 year old girl wrote a letter to the show telling them the macgyverism with the bicycle and they used it. smile.gif There was a man in the van who was about to get blown up by the bomb but Mac saved him from that only to get shot and killed.. What a waste.. sad.gif great episode!! loved it! smile.gif 


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If anybody doesn't know this an 11 year old girl wrote a letter to the show telling them the macgyverism with the bicycle and they used it

WOW. I didn't know that. What was she, some kinda chemestry geek or something? laugh.gif



sonyab Posted on Oct 5 2004, 12:20 PM

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MacGyver Posted on Oct 5 2004, 04:40 PM

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Yes, this was a great episode, filled with many MacGyverisms, as many of the 1st. season episodes were. I especially liked Mac's homemade "bombs" blowup.gif and the whole bit with MacGyver jumping on the airplane and keeping it from taking off. Another great episode, as usual! 


MacGyverGod Posted on Oct 6 2004, 05:21 AM

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Indeed one of the better episodes. A good look at a full-morning episode in Mac's life. 
   

MacGyver Gal Posted on Oct 6 2004, 11:11 AM
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This was a good episode with lots of good MacGyverisms.

But one thing about this episode puzzles me. hmm.bmp

At the beginning, Mac says that when he was a kid, his father took him to his favorite fishing hole called Sparrow Lake. Then, he says that he is trying to find the lake but, he’s lost. Then, he stops at the café to ask for directions to the lake and that’s when he runs into trouble…

Here’s what I don’t understand.

Mac is driving somewhere in Arizona looking for a lake that he and his dad fished at when he was a kid. Huh???

Mac grew up in Minnesota..the land of 10,000 lakes!!!

Why is he and his dad fishing in Arizona? 

Just wondering… smile.gif



sonyab Posted on Oct 6 2004, 11:23 AM
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Hmmm hey good question.. smile.gif Maybe his dad never been to arizona so he wanted to go there with his son for a father and son bonding thing. Thats possible. 


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I'm from minnesota, actually, about a 5 min drive from where RDA grew up. Now, there are so many lakes with in a days drive, he didn't need to go to arizona to go on a bonding trip. He could have gone to the Boundary Waters. But, hey it's TV anything can happen. 


rockatteer Posted on Oct 6 2004, 02:38 PM
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Did you notice that the airplane and hanger area are the ones in the starting sequence where Mac leans on the propeller and smiles as his name come up at the bottom of the screen.



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I'm from minnesota, actually, about a 5 min drive from where RDA grew up. Now, there are so many lakes with in a days drive, he didn't need to go to arizona to go on a bonding trip. He could have gone to the Boundary Waters. But, hey it's TV anything can happen.



Well what I'm saying is that that maybe his father never been to Arizona and wanted to visit it with his son. smile.gif And hey that's cool that you lived 5 minutes away from Rick.. It's a small town right? did you ever see or meet him?


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Yup and maybe he just wanted a special lake. 


zhennu Posted on Oct 7 2004, 05:13 PM

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I remember this episode. It was one of the first I had seen. I really liked this episode for the MacGyverisms used as well as the humor. xD

At least Mac tried to save a man's life. smile.gif 


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Yeah, good one. Mac takes five minutes to get the guy out of the van.... then they shot em. ROTFLMAO. Oh, well... can't save um all Mac. 



 
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I really like this one...Mac just kind of wandering into a bad situation...and making it better! biggrin.gif See that did happen early in the series...he wasn't always on assignment. I like how he talks to the guy (forget his name...) and helps him get past his fears...and we find out....MacGyver's not perfect! Yet. laugh.gif I love the scene where Mac goes to all the trouble to get the guy outta the van and then the guy gets killed anyway. dry.gif

Even tho I really like this one, I just voted good, cuz in my humble opinion the bad guys were just complete oafs. The lateral cranial impact enhancer almost bumped it up to excellent, tho. wink.gif



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I have to say, I really liked this one. I love the scene where Mac and Kelly are locked in the freezer together, and Kelly is telling him about her and Dave's problems. She clearly loves Dave and wants to make the relationship work, but is having a very hard time of it. And then Mac says to her, "I'll wish for you, you wish for me." Don't know why, but I think that's one of my favorite scenes of the show... or at least, of the first season.

I also LOVE Mac's "hand grenades." That whole scene where he's chasing the bad guys around and throwing them makes me laugh... until they outmaneuver him.

I liked the "lateral cranial impact enhancer" too. laugh.gif The bad guys were kind of dim bulbs, but that's part of what made it entertaining (for me, anyway).

One of the best lines in this one was spoken by the cook (his name's slipping my mind just now) as he, Kelly, and Dave are hiding, just before Dave makes a break for the chopper. Dave is talking about how he can't fly the chopper, and the cook tells him, "Seems to me this is one of those times when you can go one way or the other, and the rest of your life depends on which way you choose."

Finally, I really liked the part where Mac lets Dave talk about what he went through in Vietnam, and helps him overcome his past and his fears. I notice that one of the ways Mac helps people the most is just letting them talk... about their fears, their regrets, whatever, and helping them come to terms with themselves. It seems to me that this eppy was probably the first in which that side of the character was really emphasized... that he wasn't just a tough guy without a gun, but someone who was genuinely interested in people, and in helping them however he could.



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There are only a few small problems in this episode. Like how MacGyver extinguishes the thermite torch by jabbing it into the ground to deprive the torch of oxygen. Thermite torches basically come with their own supply, so they don't actually go out if you rub it into the ground. You basically have to wait for quite a few hours before it dies out on its own.


Oh, and the part about getting locked in the freezer. They were trapped there for some time. I think what bugs me about this is that it seemed the freezer wasn't quite as cold as it should have been. I've worked in grocery stores and stocked up the freezer-- you'd be frozen within an hour, probably less.

And getting ice to melt by a lightbulb, well that's even more farfetch'd!



I therefore naturally assume that a half run-down place like that diner didn't quite have the state-of-the-art freezing power a large franchise grocery store would possess.



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QUOTE (Jazz @ 30 May 2007 - 07:11 AM)
And getting ice to melt by a lightbulb, well that's even more farfetch'd!

Why is it far fetched? Ice melts from the warmth of your hand, you think the heat from a light bulb wouldn't melt ice?



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I therefore naturally assume that a half run-down place like that diner didn't quite have the state-of-the-art freezing power a large franchise grocery store would possess.


blink.gif What??



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Just trust me on this one.

Mac wouldn't've survived the freezer at the grocery store I worked at.
He would've been ice cream within half an hour.



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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 30 May 2007 - 09:54 AM)
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And getting ice to melt by a lightbulb, well that's even more farfetch'd!




Why is it far fetched? Ice melts from the warmth of your hand, you think the heat from a light bulb wouldn't melt ice?



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I was just musing that in an actual walk-in freezer, the water wouldn't've stayed liquid long enough to get into the freezer lock.


Hey, I'm just musing here, really. I could be totally and completely wrong.



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Good point.

The thing about the Thermite torch is already listed in our nit-picks page



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You make a great many good points. I forgot that you had that on your nitpicks page. All I remember is that I was giddy as a school-girl when I saw him making a thermite torch, considering I was already familiar with the method.

Kind-of an exciting thing to see something you know be performed by MacGyver.

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QUOTE (Jazz @ 30 May 2007 - 11:15 AM)
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There's also some great music in "Last Stand", particularly when MacGyver's first driving up to the town.



 
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Just popped in to give my comments on this episode. I voted Good! I too really liked the way Mac was able to help Dave overcome his fears and let him talk about all the horrible things that happened to him when he was captured in Vietnam. You could see how bad Mac felt for him, never having gone through anything like that himself. But it was good that Mac was able to get Dave to help them out. I too liked what Mac said to Kelley about wishing for her. That was nice. smile.gif That's what I like about Mac too. He was always really sympathetic toward people, always trying to help them overcome bad situations.

I liked that "lateral cranial impact enhancer" too. That was priceless! LOL That guy Turk(?) was a real jerk. For that matter, they all were. LOL That other guy with the machine gun, can't remember his name, reminded me of something out of one of those Sylvester Stallone war movies. He was definitely playing it over the top. A real "tough guy." LOL Mac ended up beating him in the end.

I too thought that was sad when they shot that guy in the van, after Mac had spent so much time trying to get him out. That was pretty bad! mad.gif

I saw where someone said that an 11 year old girl sent in that idea to the show for Mac to make that torch out of that bicycle. That was interesting. I didn't know that either. Wow that girl must have been really smart! WAAAY smarter than me! ;-) That would be ironic if that young girl turned out to be Amanda Tapping. She really read up on all that technotalk she did on Stargate so she would know what she was talking about. How cool is that!

All in all, I really liked this episode. They really had a lot of MacGyverisms in this show. And I agree about the ice melting by using the lightbulb. That was a pretty big chunk of ice, but it would still melt if it was near a really hot lightbulb. Not very fast, but it would melt all the same.

I have to agree about that freezer Mac and Kelly were in. It was obvious that it was cold enough to see your breath, but not cold enough to freeze them to death. I was in a meat locker one time, and it was REALLY COLD! You didn't want to be locked in that! BRRRR. So it was obvious that the freezer that Mac and Kelly were in, wasn't that cold. But I was glad that Mac was able to get them out. :-)

Btw I too read where they always left out certain things that Mac did, so people wouldn't get hurt trying to recreate the things on MacGyver. But everything Mac did to get out of tight situations looked really good! He was one smart guy! :-)

Thanks for posting a link to this episode. No matter how bad the situation is, Mac always comes through! :-)

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Lots of MacGyverisms in this one really loved it.



 
                                                                     
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Anyone know the tune Buddy (the terminator wannabe) keeps whistling in this episode?



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Love this episode- especially when he says "C'mon guys that's just bad taste! Show some class for a change."



 
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So what exactly was Dave saying had happened to him, when to paraphrase what I remember, he said "I dug my own grave, then knelt at the edge, and when they were done..." to paraphrase. I was sorta confused at what he was suggesting there. You could get some pretty terrible things out of that if you wanted, and after reading about Abu Ghraib and similar things, nothing is beyond my imagination. Just wanted to see if there was a point he was making, if anyone got it since I didn't.



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He was explaining why he "couldn't" fly; Because of the trauma he had been through as a POW. They made home dig his own grave and made him think he was about to be die like the others he had just been digging graves for.

I think the whole point of the scene was to tell us that Dave had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and that scene explained why.




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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 25 April 2010 - 10:11 AM)
He was explaining why he "couldn't" fly; Because of the trauma he had been through as a POW. They made home dig his own grave and made him think he was about to be die like the others he had just been digging graves for.

I think the whole point of the scene was to tell us that Dave had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and that scene explained why.

Oh yeah, he said they laughed, like they enjoyed his face as he thought he was about to die but they let him live. I see, thanks for clarifying that. I wonder is PTSD was even classified yet at the time. If it wasn't, MacGyver was ahead of his time yet again tongue.gif Rather than saying "suck it up" he understood. Thanks for that Rocky smile.gif



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It's been a recognized condition since the early 70's so yeah it was around.

Do you remember that song by Paul Hardcastle called "19" about the average age of solders going of to the Vietnam war being 19? There's a line in that song about PTSD, and that song was released in 1985.

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this is by far one of my favorite early episodes, I just can't forget that little tune the rambo wanna-be guy kept whistling! also my favorite line in the episode: "Lateral cranial impact enhancer" *Smack* That makes me LOL every time I see it biggrin.gif also, I think the heat from the lightbulb might have been sufficient to melt the ice but the problem would be that it would freeze again before it made it all the way down to the lock.



 
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Another thing I noticed, the part where "Rambo" and the other guy are looking for MacGyver the boss guy (Sorry I am horrible with names lol) yells to them as they're coming out the door "keep looking they're not invisible" then "Rambo" says "I'll find them myself" but it looks like it was dubbed over because if you read his lips he says another word I can't quite make out, but it's not "myself". kind of interesting, I replayed that scene a few times and i'm a fairly good lip reader but I can't make out what he really said. hmm.bmp



 
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For me this is the best episode of the first season!
It's the classic MAC's situation: hostages , very bad guys, a lot of Mac Gyverism, sense of humor...and I love this kind of adventures in the show! w00t.gif




 
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This is definitely the darkest episode of MacGyver so far. Albeit a little on the dumb side, these guys are serious, and you can really sense the fear in that restaurant, from the very beginning.

Mac does indeed have a way of making people open up, and find their inner strength. It was very heartwarming to listen to his conversations with the couple, and making them both realize that they have so much left to give--and live for.

I also love the way he admits he isn't perfect--yet. wink.gif

What really shocked me was when they killed that security guard. I wouldn't call it an unnecessary death, considering that this is one of the darker episodes, but you could feel Mac's sadness and frustration, he'd been working so hard to try and save him... His frightened eyes through the glass window of the van... and then he got shot as soon as he got out. sad.gif

There was one really cheesy moment though--when the guys are looking for Mac after they realize he's escaped from the freezer, and one of them goes around calling "MacGyyyver... vhere aaarrr yooo?" That totally cracked me up. laugh.gif

However, this won't stop me from giving the episode an "excellent" rating. smile.gif



 
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This episode is my favourite of first season. duct.gif




 
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I agree, this is one of the more edger episodes. I think all of season one had a bit more of an edge to it in general. They seemed to take things more serious which I guess comes from it being the first season and they were trying to capture an audience and make good on it.




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I agree, this is one of the more edger episodes. I think all of season one had a bit more of an edge to it in general.

That's one of the reasons I dislike Jack Dalton. From the moment they introduced him, he took away the edge that I liked about 'MacGyver'. As fine an actor as Bruce McGill may be, I truly wish he would never have been in the show. There are some episodes with Dalton in it that I eventually managed to find tolerable at best, and he c a n be funny, but for the most part the episodes he's in are só childish that I think I am watching a kids show. And by the looks and feel of the first season, that's not how 'MacGyver' started out.



 
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QUOTE (Traveller @ 1 August 2012 - 04:01 PM)
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I agree, this is one of the more edger episodes. I think all of season one had a bit more of an edge to it in general.

That's one of the reasons I dislike Jack Dalton. From the moment they introduced him, he took away the edge that I liked about 'MacGyver'. As fine an actor as Bruce McGill may be, I truly wish he would never have been in the show. There are some episodes with Dalton in it that I eventually managed to find tolerable at best, and he c a n be funny, but for the most part the episodes he's in are só childish that I think I am watching a kids show. And by the looks and feel of the first season, that's not how 'MacGyver' started out.

Well, personally I don't mind Dalton *that* much--though I do agree that things got a bit repetative (and sometimes downright cheesy) when Mac would let himself be persuaded to join him over and over again, on some crazy and ill-planned adventure.

Penny Parker on the other hand... Gahhh, sorry, but I just can't stand her. If anyone took away the edge from the show, in my opinion, that would be her.

I'll elaborate more later, in the appropriate episode discussion threads.



 
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I'll follow you over there, then. But be warned (now I sound like Murdoc): I have a soft spot for Penny. Moreover, she happens to be in some of my favorite episodes. smile.gif



 
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