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Dr Zito
Posted on 12 July 2011 - 05:48 PM                                    
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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 12 July 2011 - 08:25 PM)
Your in a taste category all of your own aren't ya Zito. laugh.gif

Taste is in the eye of the beholder.. or something like that. wink.gif

when it comes to this forum apparently I am! biggrin.gif

I do tend to be overcritical, in the kind of work I do you have to be very critical of yourself and others so I cant switch off even when Im watching my favourite shows. Also Ive noticed that Ive changed a lot in some crucial ways from when I watched macgyver, the world has changed as well, and to me some episodes look a bit dated. This was definitely one of those cases.

Having said that, my excuse card if you want to call it that way, I still dont understand what was good or right about this episode, from any perspective. As a story it was incredibly uninteresting, macgyverisms were at an all time low, and the corny aspect, which sometimes rears its ugly head in macgyver, particularly early episodes, made a full apparition.

I do find it curious, and im not using the word "curious" in a derogatory manner like most people do when wondering why people disagree with them. I do find it interesting why so many people liked it and I didnt. My brother says Ive become the most cynical person in the world, I reckon hes far off, but perhaps to really enjoy some episodes of MG you need to keep those childish eyes, that naive vision of the world to enjoy them.

that sounded condescending enough so I guess my work is done harhar.gif



 
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For me one of the more enjoyable aspects were the one-liners from from Jimmy. I enjoy that kind of quick-witted response humour, so it made the episode quite enjoyable.

I also liked the way Jimmy and MacGyver seemed to really hit it of, especially the scenes at Macs appartment were they play hockey to see who will wash the dishes and Jimmy comments he hasn't washed dishes for years. Also the more quiet moments where we learn about MacGyver's asperations for professional hockey and the scene where Pete turns up at Macs place and starts eating the whipped whatever it was and comments that he prefers it cold when Mac tells him it's suppose to be heated.

So I guess I enjoyed it because it has a lot of little moments throughout which give an inside glimse to MacGyvers life and interactions.

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Posted on 13 July 2011 - 05:53 PM                                    
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that relationship between jimmy and mac seemed to me forced and over the top corny. I just couldnt believe any of their interactions, the ending also was so preachy. I'm finding harder and harder to believe in these kind of reformed-happy endings in the real world, and in MG they seem constantly hitting the sickly sweet note.

But I appreciate your explanation Rockateer, I know can undrstand why people liked it, even if it didnt quite make it for me.

BTW since I mentioned my work I'm a writer and editor so I probably pay too much attention to the stories and dialogues.

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QUOTE (Dr Zito @ 14 July 2011 - 02:56 PM)
I'm finding harder and harder to believe in these kind of reformed-happy endings in the real world, and in MG they seem constantly hitting the sickly sweet note.

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It's not real life though. That's the whole point. It's an 80-90's TV show so in order to enjoy it you have to switch back to that mode and appreciate it for what it is/was.



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Posted on 14 July 2011 - 01:59 AM                                    
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yes but since it isnt a scifi show you need some kind of connection to reality, in this episode some of it seemed implausible to unusual degree, even for an american tv series of the 80s.

didnt you find the lack of macgyverisms troubling?



 
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yes but since it isnt a scifi show you need some kind of connection to reality, in this episode some of it seemed implausible to unusual degree, even for an american tv series of the 80s.

didnt you find the lack of macgyverisms troubling?

Driving cars, using phones, wearing normal clothes, eating drinking normal food and drink, getting hurt when you fall over or punched, bleeding or killed when shot.. these aren't connections to reality?

There have been other episodes with less macgyverisms than this one so that really didn't bother me and the few MacGyverisms it had were cool enough to make up for it anyway. biggrin.gif

For some reason I really like the scene with MacGyver sitting at his computer looking up Jimmy's file. I have no idea why I like it, but I do. Maybe it's one of those rare glimpses of domestic normal every day life MacGyver *shrugs*



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Many of the things that I really liked about this episode have already been debated here, but there are some things worth mentioning.

For starters, I never cared too much about hockey, (even though I grew up in a highly profiled hockey city, hehe, the irony). But watching Mac/RDA on the ice is pure joy, since you can really see it's his element, he enjoys it so much! smile.gif

As several of you have already mentioned, this episode provides an insight in Mac's daily life, and his "strange" food habits... though I remember alfalfa was the ultimate health food of the 80's.

Though I doubt it would be that easy to hook up the car phone to the car electronics system, and make it lock the doors like that, I did enjoy that MacGyverism (along with the priceless "The car will go now, I suggest you go with it" comment. laugh.gif)

I can definitely understand why Mac would engage himself so much in Jimmy's case, considering his own family situation. And despite that Jimmy had been lying to him, Mac still did everything he could to help him out in the end!

The writers of this episode also remembered Mac's fear of heights--I just love the scene where he tries to calm himself down after climbing the elevator shaft.

With all these bits combined, "The Eraser" really shows what a human, warm hearted and caring person Mac really is. Though not one of my ultimate favorites, and not really an "excellent", I'll vote a strong "Good."



 
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Many of the things I really liked about "The Eraser" that have already been discussed here. But I have some things worth mentioning. I think this episode provides us with at least some insight into Mac's daily life. And I doubt it would be that easy to hook up a car phone to the car's security system. And to make the doors lock themselves. I did enjoy that MacGyverism as well as the priceless "The car will go now, I suggest you go with it". roller.gif I can understand why Mac would involve himself so much in Jimmy's case. And even though Jimmy lied to him, Mac did everything he could to help him out until the end. And I'm very happy the writers still remembered Mac's fear of heights. And I like the scene were Mac tries to calm himself down after climbing up the elevator shaft. I like how "The Eraser" shows the human side of Mac. And shows how Mac is a very warm hearted and caring person. Not my favorite, but still a good episode.

Overall Rating: 9.5/10 duct.gif sakopen.gif MacG.gif



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Posted on 19 July 2013 - 06:02 PM                                    
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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 30 April 2009 - 06:50 PM)
QUOTE (MacNymph @ 7 October 2007 - 05:41 AM)
I just watched the episode again, and all you do is hear it and can't see if he actually said something else and they dubbed it....

Quite clear on my copy. He says "That's bush!"

Might be referring to the referees' officiating skills as bush-league. The ref would get his meaning.  happy.gif

Yeah I was channel surfing last night and stopped on a channel just in time to hear someone say "that was bush league!".

I then had to look it up and find out what the term means because I've never heard it before.

For our non-US members it means "Below good standards, not good or incorrect. Pitiful, poor, terrible, awful, bad,Amateur performance"

So Nymphys assessment would be pretty accurate I reckon. It's a polite way of telling the Ref he made a crappy call. laugh.gif

Yes 'bush league' as in the bush or about as far as you can get from the refined officiating of the pro leagues that operate in the larger cities of the world. Was a common barb used in that era .... you don't hear much today, the kids now have much sharper, potty tongues ....


A very good episode that appeases we sport oriented fans as it starts with hockey and ends with baseball. Sandwiched in between there is decent plot of cold war business and underworld muscle.

Joe Santos was a strong and veteran character actor by the time this episode was produced and doesn't disappoint as a 'Jimmy the hitman', btw. Do check him out in 'The Rockford Files' as Sergeant Dennis Becker - an excellent TV series that ran through the mid to late 1970s. The Rockford and MacGyver characters have some strong similarities imo.



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QUOTE (Joe SAKic @ 20 July 2013 - 02:02 PM)
Do check him out in 'The Rockford Files' as Sergeant Dennis Becker - an excellent TV series that ran through the mid to late 1970s. The Rockford and MacGyver characters have some strong similarities imo.

RDA agrees with you and even mentions the show in this interview when talking about how MacGyver hurts his hand when he punches people.




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I really love the scene where we see MacGyver sitting at home in front of his computer looking up details about Jimmy. I'm not really sure what it is, but the whole scene from when Pete turns up and we see Mac sitting in front of the computer just seems cool to me...I keep going back and watching it. Must be in a geeky mood lately. laugh.gif



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MacG.gif one of the best, jimmy portrayed by veteran actor Joe Santos was excellent. I liked the story line of a professional hitman wanting out. Jimmy sees his violent past as a bad choice morally and wants to make amends. The chemistry between Mac and Jimmy was great and Mac wants to help jimmy start a new life. Of course Jimmy's mob associates wish to retire him permanently. The Macgyverisms were pretty good.



 
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QUOTE (KiwiTek @ 27 July 2013 - 12:15 PM)
I really love the scene where we see MacGyver sitting at home in front of his computer looking up details about Jimmy.

I agree there's something about that scene... Maybe because he's not rushing to fix a problematic situation or anything - it's a common thing that feels very normal and unscripted and relaxed that I can actually relate to for once wink.gif



 
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I've always loved this episode, I always loved Jimmy the Eraser!



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Did you know that this episode airs exactly one year after the Pilot episode?



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the highlight of the episode is the new friendship between Mac and Jimmy.

also that scene with Pete eating that white stuff was funny.

mac's new flat is really cool

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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 2 October 2007 - 05:36 PM)
QUOTE (MacBeth @ 3 October 2007 - 01:53 PM)
QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 2 October 2007 - 02:58 AM)
After watching RDAs recent interviews and hearing his potty mouth..

Aw, c'mon, aren't you being a little hard on him? There are times and places where salty speech is the natural dialect and four-letter words are ignored as standard parts of speech

Yeah but non of them include dropping the F bomb in a TV interview or calling Colm Meaney a Bastard (because he owes RDA money) on morning TV w00t.gif

"Colm Meaney? he's here? He owes me money! B*****!!"

For real, or joking?




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QUOTE (Dr Zito @ 13 July 2011 - 05:53 PM)
that relationship between jimmy and mac seemed to me forced and over the top corny. I just couldnt believe any of their interactions, the ending also was so preachy. I'm finding harder and harder to believe in these kind of reformed-happy endings in the real world, and in MG they seem constantly hitting the sickly sweet note.

But I appreciate your explanation Rockateer, I know can undrstand why people liked it, even if it didnt quite make it for me.

BTW since I mentioned my work I'm a writer and editor so I probably pay too much attention to the stories and dialogues.

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Jimmy showed that he no longer wished to be a cold-blooded killer.

He explained that he had been haunted (not literally) by at least one of his past killings.

He proved that he had changed and was thus rewarded. Mac believes in redemption.



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I really enjoyed this episode. I LOVED all the great quotes and one-liners from Mac and Jimmy! Too many to mention! I also like how the series, as a whole, varies the pace of the episodes. High-paced, exciting, full of Macgyverism shows are great, but I think I would tire of watching if all the episodes were like this. Just like in real life, we all need some "down time". It's nice seeing a different side of Mac and I think it adds a lot to character development which is what gets me hooked on a show. If I don't like the characters, I don't enjoy the show.



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