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Votes from May 2006
Poor [ 0 ] [0.00%]
Average [ 2 ] [11.76%]
OK [ 1 ] [5.88%]
Good [ 10 ] [58.82%]
Excellent [ 4 ] [23.53%]
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Posted by: MacGyverGod Nov 28 2005, 02:31 AM
| QUOTE | A good episode for as far as I know. Penny Parker is really girlish afraid. If it wasn't for MacGyver... anyway. The night scene was good when the electricity fell out and Penny met the skull of her aunt.
'There's not such thing as ghosts!' |
Posted by: MacGyver Nov 28 2005, 08:36 AM
| QUOTE | Oh yeah! "The Secret of Parker House"- a great Halloween episode, MacGyver-style. The whole mystery surrounding Penny's Aunty Betty was really interesting and the whole thing with Virgil was really creepy the first time I saw it. Especially the whole thing with him cutting out all the pictures of Aunt Betty. And MacGyver did a really cool job reconstructing the skull and then the end bit where MacGyver blew an opening in the wall. And the ending was creepy too, leaving you thinking that maybe there was a ghost after all!
This was one of the MacGyver episodes that had a hint of supernatural stuff in there (other examples- "Ghost Ship", "The Visitor", "Trail of Tears", "Walking Dead", etc.)
Anyway, great MacGyver episode as usual and an exciting kickoff to the 4th. Season (though technically the real start is "Blood Brothers", but anyway) |
Posted by: rockatteer Nov 28 2005, 09:34 AM
| QUOTE | The reconstruction of the face was too much for me
I've always had troble with how they reconstruct faces and seeing Mac reconstruct a face to look like Penny was too much.
How did he know what type of hair the dead women had? or what her nose and mouth etc looked like? |
Posted by: MacGyverGod Nov 28 2005, 11:50 AM
| QUOTE | | That's the way they do it and erasers are part of it. |
Posted by: rockatteer Nov 28 2005, 02:36 PM
| QUOTE | Yes MG that’s my point. There is NO way they can tell the shape of a persons nose or their hair type from a bare skull.
They can use the skull contours to create the shape of a face I guess, but there is no nose bone in a skull and certainly no hair bones.
They claim to be very scientific about it, but I say if everyone’s face conformed to the same biological laws of muscle thickness and skin tension etc... we would all look VERY similar to each other.... but the fact is we don't.
Our face muscles are different thicknesses and produce different types of faces... a dimple is the product of a muscle attaching itself to the skin.... there’s noway they can tell that from an empty skull.
I'm sorry but the whole face reconstruction thing to me is mumbo jumbo.
Of corse this is just an opinion, because I don't know how they make the measurements and what their calculations etc are to produce the end result.....
But in my opinion there are too many variables and other influences (muscle tone, weight etc) for a true likeness to be present from just an empty skull bone. |
Posted by: MacGirl Nov 29 2005, 09:07 AM
| QUOTE | Actually, Rock, facial reconstruction is based on generally accepted measurements of skin thickness. A lot of it is artistic leeway, but you'd be surprised at how close a trained forensic artist can come to reconstructing someone's face with accuracy. It's often good enough to produce posters with pics of an unidentified person, and very often remains are identified in this way. True, they can't create quirks like dimples and such, but it's still surprisingly accurate. Also, today I think they're moving away from working on skulls (concerns about contamination of evidence) and are using computer modeling more and more.
Anyway... this is one of the two Penny episodes I can honestly say I like. Though of course I've forgotten a lot of it, I do remember it being creepy and interesting and funny. There really was a mystery here, and I liked how Mac had his hard-core rationality challenged. I am looking forward to seeing this one again. |
Posted by: MacGyverGod Nov 29 2005, 11:01 AM
| QUOTE | | Hehehe. Perhaps the ending should've been overnight during the lightning storm to have more effect. |
Posted by: MacGirl Nov 29 2005, 06:05 PM
| QUOTE | | It's been so long since I've seen this that I can't even remember the ending! |
Posted by: thyla Dec 1 2005, 09:59 AM
| QUOTE | | All I remember is that Mac was wearing a muscle shirt towards the end. I know I am shallow. |
Posted by: Kim_K Dec 2 2005, 11:57 PM
| QUOTE | This is a one of my faves. I really like the "supernatural" episodes, and The Secret Of Parker House is no exception. But I think the could have excluded that "remaking-face" thing.
"-There is no such thing as ghosts!" |
Posted by: Lothithil Dec 20 2005, 12:52 PM
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How did he know what type of hair the dead women had? |
This one is the easy one... the wig came out of Aunt Betty's closet!
*chuckles*
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Posted by: rockatteer Dec 20 2005, 01:39 PM
| QUOTE | | yeah I watched it about 2 nights ago and realised that. |
Posted by: Lothithil Dec 21 2005, 04:50 AM
| QUOTE | (((rocky)))
My favourite moment from this ep is when Penny is going on about how upset she is to learn that she's related to a gangster and a madwoman, and Mac tells her that he's not surpised. *Mac foot-in-mouth-moment*
He saves himself by tactfully saying that all families have 'black sheep'.
"Is there a black sheep in your family," Penny asks.
Mac cocks his head and says, "You're lookin' at him!"
*love that!* |
Posted by: MACGYVERISMYDAD Dec 22 2005, 06:01 AM
| QUOTE | | one of my favorites!! i am into ghost and the supernatural. i think it was a great idea to implement this idea into the story. i remember watching it when i was 10 and give me goosbumps. very well written story line. my favorite part is in the beginining when the lady scares penny with the mask on. i also love how mac doesnt believe in ghosts but towards the end he changes his mind!! |
Posted by: MacsChick Feb 2 2006, 05:19 PM
| QUOTE | This is definitely one of my favorite episodes! I can't believe I didn't vote for this episode sooner! The first time I saw it, I think I was around 8 or 9 years old...boy, it sure kept me in suspense! After watching it again for the first time in many years, I still get chills. I forgot a lot of what happened in it, so it was like watching it for the first time all over again. I have to say...it still creeps me out! They did a good job keeping things a mystery as to what was really going on, and I love it when Mac gets to play detective (not to mention wear a tank top! ) I've been in old houses like that, where something definitely feels wrong. And how about the ending when the beam from the gazebo impales Cliff? Talk about poetic justice! It also left you wondering if maybe there were supernatural forces at work.
On another note...isn't it funny how many times Penny thinks Mac is doing something sweet for her in this episode? You know, fixing the music box, giving her flowers...it almost makes you wonder if she's got a crush on him! She even tells him the house won't be too scary because she's got him to look at! I agree with her there! |
Posted by: Lady Angra Feb 12 2006, 10:45 AM
| QUOTE | | This was my first MacGyver episode and I loved it. Too bad Penny's not part of every episode. |
Sjaop Posted on Mar 6 2006, 09:57 PM
| QUOTE | The way he tries to convince himself there's no such thing as ghosts, when he finds out the secret doorway and the wind blows out his candle (was it the wind???)
I think that part was absolutely brilliant.
Or the part when Penny is spooked by noise coming from underneath the blue sail and walks up to it with a pole in her hand, almost hitting Mac over the head.
She says something like
"MacGyver, you scared me to death!"
and he replies with something like "you almost ended up taking me with you"
I can't exactly remember the phrases, but I loved those!!! |
Toni Posted on Apr 2 2006, 02:52 AM
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I dont like Penny Parker so therefore I only voted av. The only thing I liked was that Mac made the reconstruction of the face. From the skull that was buried in the garden that was cool. |
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I just saw it again and I think this is one of the best Penny-MacGyver dynamics in the whole series. I didn't notice any man-woman tension (you know what I mean?) but I have never been sure the writers of the show actually wanted there to be any at all. And if they did, shouldn't they at least share the bedroom?! So I guess just good friends. I agree the reconstruction bit a slightly too much. Not that it isn't scientifically accurate but the fact that he is able to do it perfectly and overnight looked a bit too much to me. Loved the mint and banana icing cake, though. Loved Virgil when he  Here's a question to MacGyver all-knowers: Penny does say to the sheriff that Mac is no amateur (I guess she is referring to amateur investigator into Penny's aunt's murder) but why did he say he 'actually was an amateur'? Is he just being modest?
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Another EP where i was scared when I first saw it, but after watching it a few more times I got used to it, I jumped when MacGyver's hand came out with the skull.
The Finnish episode title is "Kartanon salaisuus", meaning "Secret of the Manor".
First episode to be broadcast in stereo.
This episode was advertised as the "Halloween Special."
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So sorry about the delay, folks! I'm trying to watch one episode per day, but I've been very busy during the last couple weeks, and things will probably be a bit hectic for a while. I haven't forgotten MacGyver though! "The Secret of Parker House" is probably my favorite Penny Parker episode... though I'd rather not use "favorite" and "Penny Parker" in the same sentence.  But, under these circumstances, she's actually not as flimsy as she usually is. Many people are freaked out by old houses. However, as the avid urban explorer I am, I know that I'd be delighted beyond words to get an opportunity to explore a house like that... ignoring the thought of any eventual ghosts... I love Penny's outfit by the way, I'd never wear such clothes (and colors) myself but it's *so* typically 80's... Wonderful.  There are many inconsistencies in this episode too. I honestly very much doubt Mac would use the actual skull for the reconstruction process. I know, they only have so little time to show these things, but I'd find it more plausible if he'd created some kind of replica. And he'd definitely used gloves while handling the real thing. I know these kind of reconstructions can be made, but usually with the help from a computer these days--and definitely not over night. However, I really liked the conclusion of the episode. I pitied Penny's aunt--she must have had a very hard life, poor thing. I think the "gentle giant" touch with Vergil was very nice too. And my favorite line is definitely when Mac is climbing down the cellar stairs, repeating his own mantra "there's no such thing as ghosts..." My rating: "Good," but not excellent.
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Recently I've discovered that there are two versions of this episode. One hase some scenes missing. For example in one version there is no MacGyver and Peny talk at the beginning of the episode in the Jeep. Episode starts when Jeep is driving into the town and there is episode title shown. Was there few versions of the show? 
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Mac accompanies his friend Penny to an old mansion she inherited. The episode was not bad but not one of the all time greats. I liked the idea of Mac in an old house. When he reconstructed the face from the skull he found on the grounds was pretty innovative for the time period. 
