Every week I will be posting a new topic titled "Episode Discussion". In this we will discuss an episode, what we liked about it, what we didn't like, etc.


Episode 67 - The Outsiders

After an Amish family nurses him back to health from a car accident, MacGyver helps them confront a construction crew about to bulldoze them off their land.

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Posted by: MacGyver Dec 12 2005, 06:09 PM

Posted by: MacGyverGod Dec 14 2005, 02:01 AM

Posted by: rockatteer Dec 19 2005, 10:45 PM

Posted by: Amy Dec 20 2005, 07:08 AM

Posted by: MacNymph Dec 20 2005, 09:17 AM

For those who haven't seen this episode, the quote is funnier if you know what was going on.

Mac has rolled his Jeep over an cliff and recieved, yet another bonk on the head.

The Amish familys is standing all around him in their simple Amish clothing and ask if he knows what happened.

To which he replies, "My Jeep went off a cliff... I died... and went to Thanksgiving?"

They even chuckle in the episode... "No, we're Amish."



Quick question... maybe MGod knows... Did Mac ever take his bonk and end up with a bandaid on the right side of his head? Seems like he's always landing on the left.

Posted by: rockatteer Dec 20 2005, 09:53 AM

Posted by: MacGirl Dec 27 2005, 06:35 PM

Posted by: Alex-Wylie Dec 29 2005, 12:05 PM

Not MGod but from someone who has Christmas holidays and time to post a little again

Doesn't he in 'Strictly Bussines' ?

Posted by: Amy Dec 30 2005, 05:25 AM

I love this about the show MacGirl! Boy, is there anything we DON'T love about it???????

I just got S4 and watched this one--I have to agree--this is one of my all time faves! Ya can't go wrong with Pennsylvania!

Good to see ya, Alex! Yeah, so where is MG on this one....Mr. MacGyver Trivia himself???????

Posted by: rockatteer Dec 30 2005, 09:50 AM

Posted by: Sjaop Mar 12 2006, 07:08 AM

Posted by: MacsChick Mar 12 2006, 01:26 PM

Posted by: Amy Mar 14 2006, 01:39 AM

I liked that, too. He wasn't really a bad buy...more like a reluctant antagonist...That was good writing!

Toni Posted on Apr 3 2006, 01:32 AM

thlayli87 Posted on Apr 21 2006, 06:52 AM

rockatteer Posted on Apr 21 2006, 10:41 AM

I think they call that poetic license.

Hi

Somebody knows or we can find the leather jacket?
the name?

Thanks you very much

Bye
Cy

One of the minor themes that I noticed throughtout the show that occurs here is that sometimes the antagonists are acting partly out of financial desperation.
1. Stevens mentions that he is about to lose his house and it is mentioned that the construction crew hasn't seen work in 2 years. I don't just see Stevens as a redneck. I see him as a really desperate man doing some really stupid things.

Countless other MacGyver characters act to keep from being financially ruined, to keep from going to jail or a combination of the two.

1. Eagles bad guys
2. Out in the Cold bad guys
3. the Sheriff in the Secret of Parker House
4. Blood Brothers drug dealers (partly also the power trip too)
5. The construction forman in Live and Learn
6. Foxworth in Log Jam
7. Nicholas Kasabian in Bitter Harvest
8. Strickland in Collision Course

Of course then there are the ones who act out of pure greed like Simmons in the Eraser, the bad guys in Renegade, or for a cause like Easy Target

Many others come to mind. Add your own--we can discuss the reasons why the bad guys acted so stupidly

but not in this thread.

(needs a thread of it's own)

This episode reminds me of the 'Simpsons' ep when Bart falls down the well,
and Sting helps dig him out;
Marge: Bart doesnt even like sting
Homer: shhh Marge he's a good digger

Great episode

I wonder if that episode was inspired by that kid that fell down the well?

I mean the MacGyver episode, not the Simpson's one.

I really like this episode. The story overall is good. I enjoyed all the guest characters. The kids, the Amish people, the violent foreman, the boss, even the police. Everyone, except for the dynamite happy guy, are just doing their jobs. Hard to pick sides on this situation.

And Mac was so wonderful in this ep. Even banged up, he can still be funny.

Wonderful acting on RDA side where he jumps out of the jeep and next we see the little girl and boy race across the road and to MacGyver's side, where his eyes are half open and you can see how much pain he is in just by his face.

I very much agree with you on this. It kind of nauseated me seeing Mac's head not to mention the damage to the jeep.

This is the first MacGyver episode where I remember thinking the whole feel of the show had really changed. Suddenly he's wearing a black leather jacket we'd never seen before, his pants and shirts are different, everything seemed different after this episode.

I guess it was a change of direction I didn't really like.. the beginning of the downward slide.

I really, really liked this episode.

Now, I'm far from an expert regarding the Amish people and their traditions--especially since I'm not an US citizen. But, from what I know, their depiction was about as close as it can possibly get in a modern film production.

Mac surely treats them with respect--yet, he's not perfect, and accidentally cracks a couple bad jokes, that he has to explain later.

And since I'm a h/c junkie... I found the scenes where Mac is receiving lots of TLC for his injuries to be truly heartwarming. And naturally, that comment of his is so sweet: "I died... and went to Thanksgiving?"

The accident looks freaky, by the way!
I really hope this isn't how a Wrangler behaves for real if you suddenly get a flat tire.

As many people have previously stated, many of the "bad guys" in MacGyver are driven by financial issues. This construction manager is no exception. It's clear that he isn't really a "bad guy" in a traditional sense of the word, his main motive is to make sure that he can provide for himself and his daughter.

In the end, Mac's involvement here ultimately solves a lot of problems. Though we might not really know, one can assume that the Amish people eventually are to keep their land, while the Phoenix Foundation helps out creating a cost reducing plan for the transformation of the marshlands. The family conflicts *within* the Amish family, with the estranged brother, obviously also got resolved because of his part in the rescue operation.

And hopefully, the children will be allowed to see each other even in the future... (at least as they're young and "innocent..." one can only speculate that things may not be too easy if their friendship last until their teens... but that's another story!)

Definite "Excellent" from me!

Mac would have a chance to press parking brake or put the gear to park. But the jeep began to slide to right toward the fence and happened very fast, so it's understandable.

I really enjoyed this episode. The Thanksgiving comment cracked me up, but the one that I really liked was when Mac was standing up to Stevens after he had threatened him with the axe. Stevens mentions that they even have a "cripple" to help them. Then Mac said something like "If you would go after a boy with an axe, then I am about your speed".

All of the plots and sub-plots through this episode are truly nice and I agree with others that, though Mac had not planned his help he seemed to come away learning some new things about life himself.

Yeah, he probably would. But I was just surprised to see the jeep start wobbling in the first place, considering that Mac's a pretty experienced driver. But some cars are probably more prone to wobbling, I just didn't imagine the Wrangler to be one of those.

And yeah, I'm actually speaking from experience--a couple years ago one of my rear tires exploded (I was driving mum and dad's old Saab at the time--I always check the tires of my own car regularly...). I was driving at approximately 120 km/h (that's roughly 75 mph), and this was an old car... but the only thing that happened was that I heard a huge bang, and a buzzing noise followed. I just pulled over, and stopped without wobbling whatsoever.

(On a side note--I was very upset to find there were no tools whatsoever in the car--but only about two minutes later a really nice guy pulled over, and offered to get some tools at the nearest gas station, for free. He happened to be a church volunteer whose motto was to help people out whenever he could. Sometimes, luck *is* on your side. )

Perhaps part of the problem with the loss of control was the fact that the Front tire exploded, which was his steering tire. Plus that curvy mountain road may have added to the problem. Just a guess. I have been fortunate thus far not to actually blow a tire while driving (luckily for me).

Yeah, he probably would. But I was just surprised to see the jeep start wobbling in the first place, considering that Mac's a pretty experienced driver. But some cars are probably more prone to wobbling, I just didn't imagine the Wrangler to be one of those.

And yeah, I'm actually speaking from experience--a couple years ago one of my rear tires exploded (I was driving mum and dad's old Saab at the time--I always check the tires of my own car regularly...). I was driving at approximately 120 km/h (that's roughly 75 mph), and this was an old car... but the only thing that happened was that I heard a huge bang, and a buzzing noise followed. I just pulled over, and stopped without wobbling whatsoever.

Mela is right. Blowing a front tire is vastly different to blowing a rear tire. When a front tire blows you lose your steering control, which from memory (I haven't seen this episode for quite a long time - it's don't really like it that much) didn't the jeep keep going straight through the fence on the corner instead of going around the corner?

Also we need to remember that this is Television, the crash was set up to look good on screen, not to be realistic. Realistic television wasn't done back in those days. The wobble etc was all for effect to look more spectacular. It had nothing to do with what would really happen if a jeep blows it's front tire.

and about the jacket?

beautiful

The Sheriff in "The Secret of the Parker House" became a murderer because he didn't want to marry his pregnant girlfriend. That's harsh. Particularly when people probably wouldn't have believed Betty if she'd said it was his baby, because of the lead poisoning affecting her mind. They didn't have DNA then.

However, I agree that a lot of the villains were acting out of desperation. Eg in "Black Rhino". And there are often villains who say things like "I didn't agree to kill anyone when I signed up".

Maybe the brown jacket was getting very old and tired and Pete sent it away to live on a farm, with fields.

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