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Ok, I may get some flack for this thread...and, if it has already been covered, my apologies. What, if any, changes would you make to the original Macgyver? I wouldn't change a lot, but there are some things that I would change here and there.

1) His footwear of choice would be the old school red laced hiking boots.
2) The opening gambit would have been on every episode.
3) There would have been more information given about his time in Vietnam.
4) RDA would have had some sort of PSA at the end of each episode (think along the lines of the end of a GI Joe Cartoon)
5) He would have been shown in the woods backpacking and hiking more than what he was.
6) He would have stuck with one particular SAK throughout the run of the series.
7) He would have stuck with one particular watch throughout the run of the series.


I know this may be a dumb thread, but it was something I was thinking about last night and wanted to get ya'lls thoughts on it...ANNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDD......my ADHD is really acting up today at work and I am having a hard time concentrating on any one thing for too long...LOL.



 
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Seems like an interesting thread to me! biggrin.gif

What would I change?

1. Deborah wouldn't have died in Unfinished Business. Would have had a nice story arc there.
2. Seeing MacGyver actually work on his Jeep... especially since it was badly damaged, and it seemed to be magically fixed.
3. Followups on previous folks he met... like Kate from Ugly Duckling or Lisa from Nightmares. He obviously made a personal impact on them, and you'd think he'd stay in touch.
4. Obviously the hair, but I can let that one slide lol

That's about all I can think of right now... lol



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All excellent points Jedi. I just watched Ugly Duckling again night before last and found myself thinking, "I wonder what happened to her."






 
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Yup! A great thread! thumbsup.gif

1. Leave the original Mac theme untouched (Always preferred season 1's theme)
2. Was never a fan of him moving to the "Hood". Would have preferred the houseboat even though production moved or somewhere interesting like they did with the pilot. Maybe an abandoned Silo. biggrin.gif
3. A twisted ending to the Murdoc story-line. (Like it was his brother)
4. More Season 1-3 type story-lines enforced in the later seasons.
5. More MacGyverisms in the later seasons
6. Definitely up for the continued opening gambits. Perhaps not in every episode but on occasion would have been exciting.
7. More stable background of the characters. Some of their history was frequently changed.



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More two-parters, bigger storylines. I always figured that as a missed opportunity.
More Jack, Murdoc and Nikki. The core of season 3 in later seasons.
More of Mac's personal life about his home and family. So more of that Passages music with Harry's and MacGyver home theme.



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Awesome points guys. We watched Pirates last night and while watching it, I kept thinking that it would have been great if there had been more episodes of Macgyver diving.



 
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An underwater adventure, why not. Just as much MacGyver outer space would've been nice.



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QUOTE (denizen @ 6 September 2017 - 11:16 PM)
Yup! A great thread!  thumbsup.gif

1. Leave the original Mac theme untouched (Always preferred season 1's theme)
2. Was never a fan of him moving to the "Hood". Would have preferred the houseboat even though production moved or somewhere interesting like they did with the pilot. Maybe an abandoned Silo.  biggrin.gif
3. A twisted ending to the Murdoc story-line. (Like it was his brother)
4. More Season 1-3 type story-lines enforced in the later seasons.
5. More MacGyverisms in the later seasons
6. Definitely up for the continued opening gambits. Perhaps not in every episode but on occasion would have been exciting.
7. More stable background of the characters. Some of their history was frequently changed.

Denizen, you might be my spirit animal. A great big yes to everything you just said. laugh.gif
And now you've gotten me wanting to write a story where Murdoc and Mac find out that they're long-lost relatives... It's possible if you push it. ...plot bunnies. doh.gif




For me, I'd obviously want more Murdoc episodes. I know that MDB was doing his rock star thing and I know that having fewer Murdoc episodes just makes his appearances even more special. But I still want more of them.

More "Serenity" episodes. I love Westerns.

Everyone is going to hate me for saying this, but I'd want more Penny Parker. And, y'know, for them to give Penny a little more depth than she shows in some of the episodes.




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I would have kept the Mac voice-overs. They gave you a peek into that complicated brain of his! Made it more personal.



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MacGyver on adventure in Japan. One as assignment and one in a dream episode and that might go for China too or Egypt. Dream episodes of course set in ancient times. I read once the idea of having MacGyver in Japan in a dream episode was once pondered about because they said that you can put MacGyver into any situation in any time period at all. The possibilities are endless but than of course you have to make a decision, so it's a western or Camelot.

How about a season full of dream episodes? They don't even have to be dream episodes but just episodes set in a different time period. MacGyver in the time of the Romans, ancient Greece, Egypt, China, Japan. MacGyver in the 1770's during the War of Independence or the Civil War. MacGyver during the World War I, the Great Depression and World War II. Just rambling here but maybe connect those episodes to the legends so that he actually witnesses them in ancient time and meets with the people who stood at the base of it. MacGyver meets Archimedes or something like that.

On voice-overs I kinda of agreed with the decision to remove them. It worked in the first three seasons but it should've been removed by the time the fourth season started. I rather see for myself what he's doing instead of him explaining. I always liked scenes with no dialogue and score during a MacGyverism or whenever he is investigating a place on his own.



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QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ 7 September 2017 - 08:05 AM)


On voice-overs I kinda of agreed with the decision to remove them. It worked in the first three seasons but it should've been removed by the time the fourth season started. I rather see for myself what he's doing instead of him explaining.

I get what you're saying, but for someone like me who is very scientifically challenged, the explanations (especially of more complicated Macgyverisms) was very helpful to my understanding.



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I know RDA didn't like doing them, but I actually enjoyed his voice overs.

For me, it was like we were sitting down at a table, and he was telling a story over some tea or coffee or hot chocolate, or something. So it was a nice little, amusing, glimpse into his mind. I know the reason was to let the audience in on what was going on, but I like that kind of personal touch. Gave him personality.



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QUOTE (uniquelyjas @ 8 September 2017 - 01:20 AM)
I would have kept the Mac voice-overs. They gave you a peek into that complicated brain of his! Made it more personal.

I agree! That, and more Murdoc biggrin.gif



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A season 6 or 7 episode in the style of season 1 would have been awesome. Just one, not a regular thing. That wasn't really an 80s/90s thing though.



 
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QUOTE (Jediferret @ 6 September 2017 - 08:42 PM)
1. Deborah wouldn't have died in Unfinished Business. Would have had a nice story arc there.

Yes! She should have come back every now and then, kinda like a female arch-nemesis in contrast to Murdoc.



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QUOTE (uniquelyjas @ 7 September 2017 - 03:20 PM)
I would have kept the Mac voice-overs. They gave you a peek into that complicated brain of his! Made it more personal.

Absolutely!

It's kinda funny that the Reboot people were so enthusiastic about picking up the voice-overs, and then had to drop them for the same reason as the Original Show.

I love RDAs voice (also his German dubbing voice) and always thought the voice-overs made you feel more connected to the main character. But I understand why RDA didn't like doing them and why both RDA and Lucas Till asked for stopping them.



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I don't really agree on that. But than again I grew up with most of season 6 and 7 episodes. Though I never minded it, I can't even remember what my first response was on voice-overs. But as I said, it only worked in the first three seasons. It might have given a more personal touch, yes, but I think the show just out grew it. I can not even imagine MacGyver explaining a MacGyverism in the last three, four seasons. It would just be distracting while his escape in Nightmares or when he made that cannon in Three For The Road were perfect for voice-overs. Can you imagine him explaining his escape in Trail of Tears? 'The kids were in danger but I had to escape the pump house first. This yellow T-bar and that steam tube would help me out.' And there are plenty of other examples, it just wouldn't work.

I'm not against it but the voice-overs ran it's course and already lasted too long in season 4. Of course this are all our personal changes. I don't want them, you do, that's fine. I'm with the producers on this one. I think it saves out time and pressure. The episode is wrapped but you still have to go into the studio to talk over everything while pre-production or maybe filming for the next episode has to begin. I can understand that you want some extra breathing space than.

I just wonder why they wanted to do voice-overs, besides maybe explaining what he is doing. Did they wanted to compete with Magnum or something? 'I know what you're thinking and you're right,' or 'but you're wrong.' For Magnum it was right, for MacGyver about three seasons.



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QUOTE (denizen @ 7 September 2017 - 04:16 PM)
Yup! A great thread! thumbsup.gif

1. Leave the original Mac theme untouched (Always preferred season 1's theme)
2. Was never a fan of him moving to the "Hood". Would have preferred the houseboat even though production moved or somewhere interesting like they did with the pilot. Maybe an abandoned Silo. biggrin.gif
3. A twisted ending to the Murdoc story-line. (Like it was his brother)
4. More Season 1-3 type story-lines enforced in the later seasons.
5. More MacGyverisms in the later seasons
6. Definitely up for the continued opening gambits. Perhaps not in every episode but on occasion would have been exciting.
7. More stable background of the characters. Some of their history was frequently changed.

Most of that sounds good to me.

I quite like that Murdoc never had an ending - I like it that he gets away and disappears with a mocking laugh every time he appears biggrin.gif

Definitely a few too many 'very special' episodes in the later seasons - I prefer Mac punting posterior and taking names! boxing.gif

And yes, changing the backgrounds of characters round annoys me too...




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The voiceovers were largely for character establishment. We saw that there was a guy named MacGyver, not too different from you or me. He worked at the Phoenix Foundation, just another face in a Minnesota sweater. He did a good job saving the world and his boss liked him so he played hockey with him.



 
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QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ 8 September 2017 - 04:05 AM)
MacGyver on adventure in Japan. One as assignment and one in a dream episode and that might go for China too or Egypt. Dream episodes of course set in ancient times. I read once the idea of having MacGyver in Japan in a dream episode was once pondered about because they said that you can put MacGyver into any situation in any time period at all. The possibilities are endless but than of course you have to make a decision, so it's a western or Camelot.

How about a season full of dream episodes? They don't even have to be dream episodes but just episodes set in a different time period. MacGyver in the time of the Romans, ancient Greece, Egypt, China, Japan. MacGyver in the 1770's during the War of Independence or the Civil War. MacGyver during the World War I, the Great Depression and World War II. Just rambling here but maybe connect those episodes to the legends so that he actually witnesses them in ancient time and meets with the people who stood at the base of it. MacGyver meets Archimedes or something like that.

I really liked the dream episodes and would've loved to see a few more in different eras. But to make an already zany concept even zanier, I thought it'd have been cool if they'd had just one episode that was set not in a past era but in the future, like in a Star Trekkish kind of space opera setting. Mac would be like a kid in a candy store with all the new tech to learn to use, but he'd adapt quickly and his mind would still be as amazing as it was in any era.



 
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Otherwise, changes to MacGyver:

I would've made Murdoc's character closer to Piedra. Murdoc had the theatrical screen presence and we loved him for it, but Piedra was closer to being Evil MacGyver in terms of the crazy-preparedness, the way he could turn mundane objects into weapons (or conceal weapons as mundane objects), the ability to break out of and slip into anywhere.

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QUOTE (Hannibal_Smith @ 10 September 2017 - 05:13 AM)
QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ 8 September 2017 - 04:05 AM)
MacGyver on adventure in Japan. One as assignment and one in a dream episode and that might go for China too or Egypt. Dream episodes of course set in ancient times. I read once the idea of having MacGyver in Japan in a dream episode was once pondered about because they said that you can put MacGyver into any situation in any time period at all. The possibilities are endless but than of course you have to make a decision, so it's a western or Camelot.

How about a season full of dream episodes? They don't even have to be dream episodes but just episodes set in a different time period. MacGyver in the time of the Romans, ancient Greece, Egypt, China, Japan. MacGyver in the 1770's during the War of Independence or the Civil War. MacGyver during the World War I, the Great Depression and World War II. Just rambling here but maybe connect those episodes to the legends so that he actually witnesses them in ancient time and meets with the people who stood at the base of it. MacGyver meets Archimedes or something like that.

I really liked the dream episodes and would've loved to see a few more in different eras. But to make an already zany concept even zanier, I thought it'd have been cool if they'd had just one episode that was set not in a past era but in the future, like in a Star Trekkish kind of space opera setting. Mac would be like a kid in a candy store with all the new tech to learn to use, but he'd adapt quickly and his mind would still be as amazing as it was in any era.

Good one.



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QUOTE (Hannibal_Smith @ 9 September 2017 - 11:13 PM)

I really liked the dream episodes and would've loved to see a few more in different eras.  But to make an already zany concept even zanier, I thought it'd have been cool if they'd had just one episode that was set not in a past era but in the future, like in a Star Trekkish kind of space opera setting.  Mac would be like a kid in a candy store with all the new tech to learn to use, but he'd adapt quickly and his mind would still be as amazing as it was in any era.

Sweet William Shatner. You are speaking my lingo!



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QUOTE (Hannibal_Smith @ 9 September 2017 - 08:20 PM)


Also, I totally would've watched a Coltons spin-off.

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