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Remember that the original creator of the show Lee Zlutoff is an exec producer for the movie and hopefully that means that he's going to have a strong influence on the film.

I'd like to think that's what made The A-Team movie so good. Stephen J. Canell was also an exec producer for the movie.

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I'm really hoping that the fact that it's taking so long to write the script means they are being pedantic about getting it right.

Yeah but we haven't heard anything yet in a while. No news means good news? I hope that's the fact as well.

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It would be nice if that were the case, but a lot of times when a movie takes a long time to get made it isn't because it's going to be high-quality.

It took five years to make Titanic (bad example maybe) and also Rocky Balboa took a very long time before it was greenlit.

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More likely, it's because of one or both of the following:

1. It's been put on the back-burner because the studio or whoever doesn't really care about it and prefers to work on other things


That would be the studio more likely.

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2. Nobody can agree on a concept, so the final product ends up being a hodge-podge of various ideas which don't really gel together very well

Look at what happened with the fourth Indy movie. I enjoyed it, but the general concensus is that it was a subpar film, despite the fact that they took a LONG time to make it.

Actually Indy started off with a bang for me but it was slipping near the end. They said they wouldn't do CGI but they did. That's one thing. And I also think David Koepp could've done a better scenario. He wrote Jurassic Park, Mission Impossible, Minority Report, War of the Worlds too (I think). Now I wonder what Frank Darabont did because his scenario was turned down even though Spielberg and Harrison Ford were happy about it except for George Lucas. Frank Darabont made The Mist in response I think.

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I know I'm probably being WAY too cynical. I just have a hard time believing that this movie will really be very good if it's ever made. I hope I'm wrong. MacGyver has the potential to be a GREAT movie (and maybe even a long-running movie franchise) if handled properly, but I guess I've seen these things get botched too many times.

First of all, don't set your expectations too high. A lot of films I like sucked at the box-office but every last one of them has their charm to it. This is I think one of those movies, I'd like to know the less the better, just as with Rocky Balboa.

Let's not expect a five star or a four star film. Four is probably what it can get the most. I'd be happy and consider it succeeded when it gets three stars. Two and a half is a give or take matter. But that's discussing movie points.

Maybe it would be even better if Lee David Zlotoff would produce, write and direct it on his own.

Now I just read that magazine interview, apparently everything is still in the works. But from when is that interview?

Give it the benefit of the doubt.



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QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ 6 January 2011 - 08:12 AM)
Now I wonder what Frank Darabont did because his scenario was turned down even though Spielberg and Harrison Ford were happy about it except for George Lucas.

I don't think it would have been an improvement, really. Here's a summary from someone who read it (you can find the script on various torrent sites)---
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Having read the whole thing, and having enjoyed the movie, I have to say that I'm glad they passed on this script. Either Darabont's or Koepp's script could have been revised and made into a better movie than the one we got, but Darabont's as is is not really better. He has Indiana get drunk and steal the idol (from Raiders) in a parody/callback of the scene from Raiders. He has Indy not scared of snakes and then get eaten alive(!) by a giant one. He doesn't have Indy's son in it, so Indy himself gets to swing on vines (twice) and have a monkey poop on his chest (really). He has Indy and Marion recreate almost word for word far too many of their lines from Raiders. He doesn't have Spalko and instead has an excessive number of bad guys that seem more or less interchangeable. He has the rocket sled sequence, he has the fridge sequence, he has the waterfall sequence too (only instead of surviving three waterfalls in a vehicle designed to be a boat they survive four waterfalls in a truck.) He has the UFO ending. He has red ants (but they're giant!) and a tree that catches the vehicle as it drives off the cliff and then springs back to wipeout pursuing bad guys. In fact he has so much that made it into the movie I feel like he should get a screen credit (and thus residual payments). To be fair I did like the way he wrote Marion, the Crystal Skull itself (no magnetism and a visual indication of what happens when you look into its eyes), the Sallah cameo and the first (but not the second - why must both Henry Joneses get drunk?) scene with Indy's father... but Sean Connery retired so that would have had to be re-written even if they had gone with this script.



 
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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 31 December 2010 - 04:30 PM)
We don't want a preachy PSA type movie.

Maybe just a little preach. tongue.gif

Just for the sake of nostalgia, I mean it was a part of the show.



 
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I'm not sure if I want a MacGyver movie without RDA. RDA was MacGyver, no one else could possibly fill his shoes. I guess if he was interested and offered enough money he could spend a few months getting in shape.
The script would have be amazing for it to do well. Last thing I'd want is for a MacGyver movie that sucked - especially if the script was written by someone who didn't know anything about the show or the character.

The script must be written by a Mac expert - we don't want to watch the movie and find nit pick after nit pick. Makes me think of the Terminator TV series - the Sarah Connor Chronicles, which came after the films. There are so many mistakes in that show its obvious the scripts weren't written by a die hard Terminator fan (I confess I am one of those diehards who can pick up on even the tiniest nitpick)

I want RDA to be in the movie, though. Not interested in anyone younger. As far as I am concerned, RDA IS MacGyver and only he can play him.



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Lee David Zlutoff is one of the producers of the movie. Can't get much more expert than that, although it would be fair to say he didn't have anything to do with the show once it got going, so he wouldn't actually be an expert on the characters development etc over the seasons.




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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 9 June 2011 - 05:33 PM)
Lee David Zlutoff is one of the producers of the movie. Can't get much more expert than that, although it would be fair to say he didn't have anything to do with the show once it got going, so he wouldn't actually be an expert on the characters development etc over the seasons.

Then they should get someone who does know about the characters to ensure the movie is satisfactory. Remember, it will be mostly the die hard fans who go to see this, and if there is only one mistake, we'll pick up on it quicker than you can snap your fingers.



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QUOTE (Makedde @ 10 June 2011 - 04:29 PM)
Then they should get someone who does know about the characters to ensure the movie is satisfactory. Remember, it will be mostly the die hard fans who go to see this, and if there is only one mistake, we'll pick up on it quicker than you can snap your fingers.

I think that's the point people are missing. This film isn't being made for the die hard fans. It'll be made to capture today's audience with the ultimate goal of creating enough interest and new fan base to warrant making at least a sequel.

I'll put money on this film being based on Zlotoffs original action/adventure vision of the show, not what it turned into in later seasons.






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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 10 June 2011 - 05:33 PM)
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Then they should get someone who does know about the characters to ensure the movie is satisfactory. Remember, it will be mostly the die hard fans who go to see this, and if there is only one mistake, we'll pick up on it quicker than you can snap your fingers.

I think that's the point people are missing. This film isn't being made for the die hard fans. It'll be made to capture today's audience with the ultimate goal of creating enough interest and new fan base to warrant making at least a sequel.

I'll put money on this film being based on Zlotoffs original action/adventure vision of the show, not what it turned into in later seasons.

Maybe it isn't being made for the die hards, but the die hards will flock to see it. Most people who like MacGyver watched the show when it was airing on TV more than 20 years ago. Few people have become fans in recent years from watching a few episodes when the reruns air.

I really think that if there was going to be a film, it should have been made years ago. Its been nearly 20 years since MacGyver last aired on TV, a film should have been made within the first ten years of it going off air. And again, the movie should never, ever be made without the man who IS MacGyver, RDA himself.



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Makeing a MacGyver movie will be strange and interesting , how will MacGyver

handle all the tech thats in the world now, I know he will be the same old Mac we

know, but this got me thinking what if they had a tv show of MacGyver now will it

be like Burn Notice without the main guy of the show without guns?



 
                                                                     
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My ideal MacGyver film would stay true to the MacGyver canon, NOT a remake. Although with the news of an "ageless" Mac in the upcoming comic book, it does not look too likely. To me there is no "ageless" remake Mac, there is only one Mac who is about 60 years old now.

If the writers were to remake the character I think it would be very cool if they made a film adaptation of an episode. "Easy Target" comes to mind as an episode that would be great as a movie. Off the top of my head, I think "Pilot", "Target MacGyver", "The Invisible Killer", and "Renegade" would all be great movies too.



 
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Since the latest rumor is that the movie will be an origins story, showing how Mac became the guy we all know, how would people feel if RDA was hired just to bookend the film? For example, he could have a brief adventure at the start of the film, and then the majority of the movie would be a flashback starring a younger guy, and then RDA returns at the end to finish the narrative. Could that work, or would it seem to hokey?



 
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Where did you hear that rumor? I haven't heard that one.

It sounds like a stupid idea actually because we know from flashbacks and back-stories that MacGyver has been the way he is since he was a child, so basically he was born that way.

TO answer your question though, I think having RDA "book-end the movie would be a good compromise. Everyone wants to see RDA as MacGyver, but we know he's had health problems which would probably impact his ability to do the physical stuff, so starting with RDA as a current 60 year old MacGYver and then flashback to a younger MacGYver would probably work out well for everyone.




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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 2 September 2011 - 08:59 AM)
Where did you hear that rumor? I haven't heard that one.

Somebody posted it in my "How will MacGyver Die?" thread in the Houseboat section of this forum. Who knows if it's true or not, but it wouldn't surprise me at all.





 
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It's not a rumor, Miasma. It's a fact.
I got it from the horse's mouth, like I described in my post.



 
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QUOTE (Traveller @ 3 September 2011 - 02:17 AM)
It's not a rumor, Miasma. It's a fact.
I got it from the horse's mouth, like I described in my post.

I can't say I'm too happy about that concept. I am really praying the film will stay true series. Although Hollywood TV adaptations seem to always lets the fans down.



 
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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 2 September 2011 - 08:59 AM)
Where did you hear that rumor? I haven't heard that one.

It sounds like a stupid idea actually because we know from flashbacks and back-stories that MacGyver has been the way he is since he was a child, so basically he was born that way.

TO answer your question though, I think having RDA "book-end the movie would be a good compromise. Everyone wants to see RDA as MacGyver, but we know he's had health problems which would probably impact his ability to do the physical stuff, so starting with RDA as a current 60 year old MacGyver and then flashback to a younger MacGyver would probably work out well for everyone.

Health problems? You mean problems related with getting older, or something more serious?
I hadn't heard anything. I thought RDA was invincible!



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Mostly to do with his feet. He's had operations on his feet over the past few years. The now infamous "fat" photo was taken after one of the surgeries while he was on or had been on strong pain medication which was partly responsible for the weight he gained.



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QUOTE (Traveller @ 3 September 2011 - 02:17 AM)
It's not a rumor, Miasma. It's a fact.
I got it from the horse's mouth, like I described in my post.

No offense intended, but anyone can say anything on the internet, so I tend to be skeptical when reading reports like this without seeing some kind of proof.

However, I do think a modern-day origins story is quite likely, since that's what a happens in a lot of movies (particularly comic book movies, for example-- Spiderman has been around in the comics for a long time, but he got a modern day origin story in the Toby Maguire movies, and he'll be getting another one in the upcoming "Amazing Spiderman" movie. Same thing with The Hulk, and Iron Man, and many others.) So I could definitely see them showing Mac's origins in a modern-day setting. IF they do that, then I don't think RDA should bookend it as an older MacGyver because it would make the inconsistancy too apparent. If the origin story was going to take place in the 1970s, then I think RDA should definitely be worked into it somehow.




 
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No offence taken, Miasma, I can only tell you it's true because it is. I have no interest whatsoever in making anything up. I am very much a fact person, I prefer facts over fiction any day.
I just never expected I'd have to come up with proof.



 
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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 6 September 2011 - 06:33 PM)
Mostly to do with his feet. He's had operations on his feet over the past few years. The now infamous "fat" photo was taken after one of the surgeries while he was on or had been on strong pain medication which was partly responsible for the weight he gained.

I know of no such photo. I am sure he'd look fine regardless. Is there a link to this photo as I'd like to know what you are referring. I seem to have been living under a rock for some time.



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QUOTE (Makedde @ 10 September 2011 - 06:38 PM)
QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 6 September 2011 - 06:33 PM)
Mostly to do with his feet. He's had operations on his feet over the past few years. The now infamous "fat" photo was taken after one of the surgeries while he was on or had been on strong pain medication which was partly responsible for the weight he gained.

I know of no such photo. I am sure he'd look fine regardless. Is there a link to this photo as I'd like to know what you are referring. I seem to have been living under a rock for some time.


Here ya go... MacGyver got fat!




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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 11 September 2011 - 12:28 AM)
QUOTE (Makedde @ 10 September 2011 - 06:38 PM)
QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 6 September 2011 - 06:33 PM)
Mostly to do with his feet. He's had operations on his feet over the past few years. The now infamous "fat" photo was taken after one of the surgeries while he was on or had been on strong pain medication which was partly responsible for the weight he gained.

I know of no such photo. I am sure he'd look fine regardless. Is there a link to this photo as I'd like to know what you are referring. I seem to have been living under a rock for some time.


Here ya go... MacGyver got fat!

Oh okay. I've seen those photos on google and to me, he looks like any other guy nearing 60. It's natural to have a bit of weight. I think he looks great. smile.gif



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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 1 September 2011 - 12:59 PM)
It sounds like a stupid idea actually because we know from flashbacks and back-stories that MacGyver has been the way he is since he was a child, so basically he was born that way.

TO answer your question though, I think having RDA "book-end the movie would be a good compromise. Everyone wants to see RDA as MacGyver, but we know he's had health problems which would probably impact his ability to do the physical stuff, so starting with RDA as a current 60 year old MacGyver and then flashback to a younger MacGyver would probably work out well for everyone.

well said. I would either have him bookend the film or focus on SAM with RDA throughout.



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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 2 September 2011 - 08:59 AM)
It sounds like a stupid idea actually because we know from flashbacks and back-stories that MacGyver has been the way he is since he was a child, so basically he was born that way.

Keep in mind, though, that even the tv show couldn't keep its history straight. The most obvious example was the conflicting stories about how Mac and Pete first met (in quicksand? Or chasing Murdoc?) Also, if we go by what we see in the "Partners" episode, then we're expected to believe that Mac was a bit of a nervous nerdy guy before he met Pete. But if we go by what we see in some other episodes when they show him as a child, he didn't seem like he'd be that way at all.

If the show had a really solid sense of character history, then I wouldn't want a movie messing with it. But since the writers of the show couldn't figure out Mac's history, I guess I'm okay with letting the movie take a stab at it. I doubt I'd see this movie as canon, anyway. I'd see it more like a reinterpretation of the character (or, since Zlotoff is involved, I might even see it as how the character was intended to be before other people got their hands on him.)



 
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My problem is that no one else could ever play MacGyver better, or as good as RDA himself. RDA is MacGyver. I'm not likely to see a movie with anyone other than RDA playing the title character.



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I'm not likely to see a movie with anyone other than RDA playing the title character.
Even if the movie made #1 at the box office?

Lets be realistic for a moment....

- RDA hasn't shown any interest in MacGyver since the show ended.
- RDA has publicly said he's not interested in going back to old roles.
- The only times RDA has done anything MacGyver related in recent years was poking fun at the show.
- RDA is semi-retired from acting.
- RDA looks and sounds different from his days as MacGyver.

Unfortunately any movie with RDA as MacGyver is going to be vastly different from the TV show, simply because everyone is older, things have changed and as Thomas Wolfe said, "You can't go home again."

This movie is being produced by the guy who created MacGyver. This is practically the perfect scenario. As fans of MacGyver shouldn't we be doing everything we can to support the venture? Buying tickets to try and get the movie to #1 and re-kindle the franchise we all enjoy so much?

Sure RDA gave us the foundation for the character by providing the mannerisms etc, but a good actor could easily copy those and make us feel like we're watching RDA's MacGyver.

I think it's wrong to get tied into the "RDA is the only MacGyver" mindset, because we end up cutting our noses off to spite our faces and in doing so jeopardize the chances of seeing a rebirth of the MacGyver franchise.
Yes RDA was the original MacGyver and he created the character as we know him, but that doesn't mean others can play the role in the same way.




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I've watched shows where the main character has been replaced, and I don't think it works. If someone other than RDA was to play MacGyver, it'd have to be someone really good - and someone who actually watched the show, and knows enough about MacGyver to play the character.
We won't know if it'll make number one until it is released - and it isn't likely to make number one anyway, no matter how good it is. The fans will see it, but will everyone else?



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That's why this movie has to be a Mission Impossible styled reboot. The movie has to appeal to today's movie going public.

I think we're going to see something like a Mission Impossible - Indy Jones - Pilot episode mix, maybe even some James Bond style thrown in as well.








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I don't want it that far removed from what MacGyver was, though. And when you mentioned Indy, it got me thinking about how bad the last Jones movie was...heaven help us if the MacGyver movie turns out as bad!

I hope RDA at least appears in it. Even if he doesn't play a major part, it'd be nice to see him in it.



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yeah I agree that there needs to be a fairly substantial nod to RDA as the original MacGyver.

It worked well with the Maverick movie where they had the original actor play the father of the lead character. No reason why they can't do it with RDA. And if they are going with an origins storyline then having RDA bookend it wouldn't be very hard to do.




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