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|Posted by: Persona non grata 26 November 2018 - 05:27 PM|
| ...not sure what point there even is to the new show, if you take out the Eads-Till interaction.
Anyhow, George Eads quit, per the https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/macgyver-star-george-eads-exit-1163956. Possibly after a quarrel on set.
|Posted by: BabyEinstein 26 November 2018 - 05:48 PM|
| Read the Deadline article. Apparently George has been unhappy since day 1 when Lenkov moved production from L A where his daughter is to Atlanta. In a season 1 interview Lucas said he helped George who was missing his girl. Too bad this couldn't be settled prior to airing.
While I adore the Mac/Jack bromance, I love the show regardless. Having Mac be the focus is fine with me. and I wish George good luck.
|Posted by: Joe SAKic 26 November 2018 - 06:07 PM|
|Maybe Bruce McGill can fill in for awhile. Exacatackleeeeeee!|
|Posted by: Persona non grata 26 November 2018 - 07:01 PM|
|...hah, I'd be all for that.|
|Posted by: Mac_123 26 November 2018 - 10:37 PM|
|Well ... I'm sad George is leaving the show. But ... I trust the writers and Lucas Till to make adjustments. This show has a lot of potential so I do not worry and I'm not going to stop watching.|
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 27 November 2018 - 08:27 AM|
Agreed hope George finds peace but I am loving the show and see no reason to stop watching
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 27 November 2018 - 09:21 AM|
|I like Eads but he overshadowed Mac too much so this might be the chance for Till to shine. But that didn't mean he had to go. Eads seems to know where he's responsibilities lies... with his family and he makes the right decision here. Indeed, why couldn't production just stay in L.A.?|
|Posted by: Roaddawg71 27 November 2018 - 10:24 AM|
|This sucks. I will miss the Mac and Jack bromance so much.|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 27 November 2018 - 10:59 AM|
Money - especially tax cuts - are the reason why so many projects either film in Vancouver or in Atlanta. Georgia is deemed the "New Hollywood" after it had been Vancouver for decades (see OG MacGyver or Stargate).
While I don't know exactly what happened, I can understand why George wasn't happy.
Initially, the (unaired) pilot was to be filmed in Portland. Then it was filmed in California before they decided to reboot it and move production to Atlanta (probably at the same time they decided it would air on Fridays).
I remember Lucas Till stating in an interview that they had signed on for a "comedy" shooting in Portland. And they mentioned at Comic Con that they joked around on set a lot MacGruber-style while still trying to shake off the old characters. So in the end, the reboot wasn't really the show they had initially signed up for.
I guess for Lucas it wasn't as such a big deal as for George - while Lucas has lived in LA for probably almost 10 years now and building a life, his entire family is back in Atlanta/Georgia. I can assume that even with barely any free time, he appreciated being near them.
|Posted by: zoeryan 27 November 2018 - 02:08 PM|
The article I read said they weren't killing him off so he may be back every now and then - I agree it might end up being an opportunity for Till - they should have called this series the Mac and Jack show so far.
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 28 November 2018 - 03:28 AM|
I guess they didn't mind then but a little more honesty from the producers and the studio would be appreciated. You sign on for a comedy and you end up in an action/adventure series?
If that's the solution but then again if Lucas has kids, I assume they're still babies while George Eads family might exist out of school going children. Then I get it they can't fly over.
Maybe he will do some more driving of his own. More jeep, maybe even more alone time. Though I rather still see Bozer leave then Jack but it is what it is. And becoming a recurring guest star is not so bad either. Maybe those episodes will be even more nice.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 28 November 2018 - 05:06 AM|
Lucas doesn't have any kids - at least that we know of
George's daughter was born in 2014, I think. The main problem is that he's divorced from the baby mama.
Justin travels every week between Atlanta, LA and Florida - but he has an easier workload and usually the weekends off. Also, with him still being married with the baby mama he can see his kid (also a daughter, about the same age since she just entered kindergarten) as often and as long as he wants during his free time; maybe having daily videocalls as well.
George probably didn't have that luxury and often worked on the weekends; sometimes not seeing his daughter for weeks. And even if they were still married, I doubt that his wife would have dropped her life and job in LA to move out to Atlanta.
|Posted by: Miasma 13 December 2018 - 11:24 AM|
| Somehow, I didn't see this news until now! (I'm falling behind....)
In a way, I'm kind of glad. I think Jack will work better as a recurring character. As MacGyverGod said, Jack often overshadowed Mac too much. One of my favorite episodes of the series was the season 3 episode with Mac & Riley trying to get the truck to the children's hospital. There was no Jack, and hardly any Bozer. It allowed Mac to really be the star of the show, as he should be.
And when Jack does turn up once in a while, it will be a nice change, just like when Jack used to show up occasionally in the original series.
My only fear is that the show's creators will decide to replace Jack with a new team member, rather than just letting the show focus more on Mac.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 13 December 2018 - 12:39 PM|
To be honest, I don't think George will be back. They always say they don't kill off the character for guest appearances purposes, and then that never happens.
I'm happy if I'm proven wrong, though.
I think CBS always wants to have a big team for their team shows so I'm not sure what they're going to do. Cage wasn't received well but Leanna seems to still be a semi-regular character for now. So maybe that's enough for now, though I'm pretty sure they will ad another regular at least for Season 4.
|Posted by: BabyEinstein 13 December 2018 - 06:16 PM|
Couldn't agree more. Not a fan of the large cast. Emphasis should be on Mac. With Bozer less is definitely more. As for Leanna, she is so unnecessary. I don't buy her as an agent and wish she'd go away
|Posted by: Mac2Nite 23 December 2018 - 12:05 PM|
|I used to defend this reboot|
|Posted by: Mac2Nite 23 December 2018 - 12:10 PM|
| I tried my best to like this “re-imagining” of MacGyver, but with the constant focus on the “team” rather than on MacGyver (who was always a self-sufficient loner), as well as the gun violence involving Eads’ Jack Dalton character); I personally don’t care he’s leaving.
They should have named the series “The Phoenix Foundation” instead of trampling all over the heart of the original MacGyver with Richard Dean Anderson.
The repeated use of guns in the presence of Mac really got to me. Showed no respect for Mac's anti-gun stance. More like a wink-and-nod to its importance to the character. And the few episodes where they tried to do "heartwarming" stories felt forced and uninspired.
|Posted by: BabyEinstein 7 January 2019 - 05:24 PM|
| How interesting that George supposedly didn't like filming in Atlanta but had no problem making a film in South Korea. I'm a little confused though as to when filming occurred. Makes me wonder why with 3 months left of filming for MacGyver he couldn't finish out the year.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 7 January 2019 - 10:36 PM|
there was never an official statement on why he's leaving. all article said "reportedly", so they were only assuming.
also, this movie could have been filmed months, even years ago. didn't find much information so far. some articles make it look like it hasn't been filmed yet, though then I don't know how they can promote it already and showing scenes
guess we'll know more soon.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 8 January 2019 - 03:16 PM|
| First BtS photo of George Eads on set of this movie.
Credit to Brian Chung: https://www.instagram.com/p/BsW-Df-nh7o/
|Posted by: BabyEinstein 8 January 2019 - 04:15 PM|
|If Eads is at usagyongsan theater tomorrow that's a base in South Korea, a bit of a distance from L A. I know I don't have all the facts but this is not the first time George has had issues. I don't understand why he couldn't have waited 3 more months instead of leaving cast and crewmates high and dry. I guess I'm so disappointed by his decision. I do wonder if CBS would ever hire him again. I wish him all the best but I'm moving on.|
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 8 January 2019 - 11:48 PM|
Bear in mind though that HE wasn't the one saying that's why he left. In fact there has been no statement from him or any representative of his about his reasons for leaving at all... It's been entirely opinion and hearsay from news sites.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 9 January 2019 - 12:28 AM|
| Yes, we should remember it's all hearsay still.
And if if George was planned to miss every 4th episode (so 3x04, 3x08, 3x12 and 3x16 and so on) this season, that would have worked out quite well with them filming 3x16 since Friday for the rest of this week. Maybe he wouldn't have stayed for the promo, but he might have done this movie anyway, even if he hadn't left the show.
Megan Fox has been attached to this project since September, so he must have joined after they started filming for S3 when the contract for reduced screentime was already in order.
Maybe that was the reason why he wanted reduced time - not just for more family-time but also to spend some time with other projects. Not to forget that him wanting more time for family was always stated by fans and fansites. The media sites just took it over after reporting the original statement that he was leaving. And even that statement of him leaving wasn't an official CBS Press Release if I remember correctly... someone must have spilled the beans early.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 9 January 2019 - 02:02 AM|
| I think it's kinda hilarious they're promoting a movie they just started filming . They usually only do that for really big blockbuster franchises helmed by Disney or Marvel.
It's possible they don't have any Korean promo planned otherwise, so they make use of the American actors being in the country. Since the movie is filmed and helmed by Asians I'm assuming the roles of the US actors won't be that big. I've read in other posts that Megan Fox will only film for 6 days, so it could be similar for George.
He seems happy posing with fans and promoting. So if he's in a good mood, he might talk about MacGyver in interviews as well . There sure will be some interviews and press releases coming of that press tour, but it might take a while. Maybe not before the "real" movie promo starts.
|Posted by: BabyEinstein 9 January 2019 - 07:24 AM|
|Why sign a contract you don't intend to honor? He should have finished the year (thru March) and miss just every 4th show and then moved on instead of jeapordizing the entire show, cast and crew. He's done tv series before so he knows how contracts work. Instead he put them in a bind. Again, I wish him well, but I am done caring that he's leaving. In fact, this could turn into the best thing for Lucas. More opportunities to shine solo.|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 9 January 2019 - 07:57 AM|
| I too am very disappointed that he's leaving the show, but I can't judge him for it since I don't know what's been going on behind the scenes.
He clearly is experienced with filming shows and he has done movies in between filming CSI as well. Also, CBS has other actors on contracts with reduced schedules that allows them to do other projects (e.g. Scott Caan on H50; he also does Theater projects within seasons). They probably agreed to grant him a reduced filming time this season so they don't lose him completely.
This clearly must have been more than just a simple disagreement and maybe the recent events this season (e.g. chopping off both Producer David Slack and recurring actress "Jill" (Kate Bond) who are married; also the former Stunt Coordinator Jeff Wolfe (that brought them an Emmy nomination for S1) being fired with bringing another guy that had no experience in coordinating to get an old lawsuit settled which resulted in a severe accident) just led to more unhappiness that's alreay been festering.
The way George talked about the show and being best friends with Lucas, and knowing what that might mean for his career and the production, I doubt he took this decision lightely. He probably felt his growing dissatisfaction might impact his acting and the quality of the show and that there's no point in continuing then. I don't think this had anything to do with this movie that he's making now. It's not like he got cast as the next James Bond and decided to drop MacGyver.
In case anyone is interested; here one of the rare articles about the movie that hadn't needed to being translated since it was already in English: https://variety.com/2019/film/asia/george-eads-korean-war-movie-jangsari-9-15-1203103178/
|Posted by: Slater 2 February 2019 - 05:44 PM|
|Well, seems that Jack is off to pursue one of the world's worst terrorists. But there's the possibility of cameos here and there.|
|Posted by: real_ness 1 March 2019 - 03:02 AM|
Guess you were right
But didn't he do sometime like this with CSI before. Wondering has he soured himself with CBS after this.
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 1 March 2019 - 03:26 AM|
|Funny, earlier this week I saw on Facebook, he might be coming back already. Unless it was a reference to possible becoming a recurring character. Maybe it's time to bring in Earl Dent. He would be perfect to fill in Eads Jack's shoes. Big and strong, just they have to be careful not to make it an exact copy of Jack.|
|Posted by: Miasma 1 March 2019 - 09:20 AM|
Funny you should say that. Back when the original series was airing, I remember seeing Earl Dent as kind of the latter day (and inferior) version of McGill's Jack Dalton.
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 1 March 2019 - 03:45 PM|
That video you saw was Trumped up media rubbish. Most of the "facts" it showed were comments from fans or general information that means nothing.
|Posted by: zoeryan 5 March 2019 - 10:39 PM|
|What's really amazing to consider is how few episodes original Jack was actually in. Just 18 episodes out of 139! He had such an impression he felt like a main character though|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 6 March 2019 - 12:55 AM|
True. The same goes for Murdoc who was in even less episodes.
They are - with Pete - the characters I remember so vividly when talking about MacGyver; they feel like regulars, not recurrings.
|Posted by: Mika73 8 July 2019 - 02:45 AM|
|We need Jack back. Show is nothing withouth him. Jack kicks ass.|
|Posted by: real_ness 9 July 2019 - 12:31 AM|
Can't blame the show for that. You have to blame him (George). Only saving grace: He walked out & didn't get chalked out.
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 9 July 2019 - 01:52 AM|
To be fair we actually don't' know anything about his reasons for leaving other than what the producers of the show have told us. So for all-we-know, it may be their fault that he left.
The one thing we can be sure of though is that it's not up to the show whether he comes back or not, they can't force him, it will be up to him and I suspect he's probably over the physically and mentally demanding role.
|Posted by: Dragondog 9 July 2019 - 12:34 PM|
|One thing that really bothers me is how many people I've seen badmouthing Eads for leaving. I've read comments calling him a quitter, an ass, a jerk, etc. Like, if this role isn't working out for him, he can leave. It's his choice, and he owes you nothing, random people online who don't understand that he has a life outside of pleasing you|
|Posted by: Mika73 9 July 2019 - 08:52 PM|
| He is great and hope he is coming back. How ever Jack Dalton episodes were one of best episodes at original series.
They may as well quit doing this new Macgyver after 4 season if there’s not Jack Dalton anymore.
Desi? Give me a break..
|Posted by: real_ness 10 July 2019 - 12:32 AM|
| For me this version of Jack never worked for me.
George is NOT the Jack Dalton of the OG, that Jack was actually way more funny intentionally. This Jack is just too try hard funny. Maybe because comedy isn't George's strong suit imo.
If for example he decided he didn't wanna do the back & forth thing that's his prerogative. I think people are mainly looking at history, he's done this type of stuff before on CSI. I'd venture to say I don't even know his standing with CBS at this present moment
But I digress, I see the hunger in Levy and she wants to please (this is kind of tame compared to the some of the stuff I've seen her do). She's wants to be a part of the team. She'll probably do most anything they tell her do scriptly speaking. I don't get the piling on her. And their level of enthusiasm are like night & day between the two of them.
|Posted by: Mika73 10 July 2019 - 02:37 AM|
| Mac, Jack and Murdoc was only thing theres left of orginal series and now 1/3 of it is gone.
Soon only thing theres left is just name and one new young peoples tv serie. I am sure its just just fine for those who didnt watch MacGyver at 80´s. But not so sure that there will be so many seasons after 4..
Its not so easy replace one of main characters.
|Posted by: BabyEinstein 10 July 2019 - 05:51 AM|
| I never watched the original series and after reading RDA's negative ungracious comments I have no intention to. The reboot was never meant to be an exact replica of the 80's show. How could it be 30 years later?
As for George, I liked the bromance, but he chose to break his contract. We don't know the full story so I won't judge, but he walked away so I don't think about him at all. I don't mind Desi and think she's done a fine job. Frankly, I give all the actors, particularly Lucas, a lot of credit for dealing with the constant unkind comparisons in a mature, professional manner.
I am curious about the new guy. I am not familiar with his work but I guess it depends on his role. He is George's age so it will be interesting to find out how he plays opposite Lucas's Mac.
|Posted by: Dragondog 10 July 2019 - 07:44 PM|
I agree, but I think Jack was written that way. I know there was reportedly conflict between George and the writers (or producers?) because of that. But we may never know the full story.
As for his CSI role, it was after 7 seasons. It's not like he left halfway through season 2 or anything. But I don't know much about that role of his, tbh...
Levy herself doesn't deserve any hate, but she handles it very well, and I admire her, even though I'm not crazy about Desi's character.
|Posted by: Miasma 12 July 2019 - 10:17 AM|
Interesting! I had been wondering if there was anyone on this site who was only a fan of the reboot and not the original.
To be honest, I feel badly for them at times. They're basically expected to always praise the original series in interviews, and that has to be difficult after RDA trash-talked their show. They all show remarkable restraint and professionalism.
I really liked him as Desmond Hume on Lost, so I'm excited to see what he does here.
|Posted by: Dragondog 12 July 2019 - 07:16 PM|
|How much trash-talking has RDA done? I knew he didn't like the reboot, but how bad was it actually?|
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 12 July 2019 - 10:04 PM|
There has been NO trash talking from RDA. He was asked the question and he gave an honest answer- that he doesn't like it because he feels it's strayed too far from the original concept.
His biggest complaint is that they glaze over the MacGyverisms too fast so they become inconsequential to the story. In the original, that was kind of the whole point of the show. His other criticism is of so many people carrying guns and that it makes MacGyver not carrying a gun kind of pointless. He hasn't criticized the actors, production or scripting of the show, just those two points really.
|Posted by: BabyEinstein 13 July 2019 - 06:44 AM|
| Actually, he said "they have some kid doing it now." I think that's rather dismissive of a fellow actor. He's entitled to
give his honest opinion of course, but I think Tom Selleck handled the reboot question with class, even wishing them well. I don't know RDA and I don't know the original, so his points could be valid vis-a-vis his version, but why criticize it at all?
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 13 July 2019 - 02:31 PM|
I don't think you can compare RDA and Selleck's statements about the reboot.
Selleck is employed by CBS. Of course, he won't speak ill of the Reboot as long as he works on "Blue Bloods". RDA is free to say whatever he wants. He doesn't need to be afraid of offending anyone.
In fact, I remember Selleck stating in an interview back then that he would never be part of the Magnum reboot... because he doesn't like it. Pretty much the same that RDA said; saying that it should have been a continuation instead of a reboot. Then, Selleck changed the tune suddenly, wishing them well and being all gracious about it; leading to people speculate about a possible crossover.
I guess CBS didn't like that first statement
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 13 July 2019 - 04:30 PM|
Because he was asked the question. The comment was made in response to a question at a comic con. He didn't go crying to the media with it.
And when you're the person responsible for bringing a character to life and making it as iconic as MacGyver became, I think you have the right to state your opinion on a reboot that bearly even touches on the original concept.
His points are valid in regards of the original.
Well, Tom Selleck still works for CBS so he has to be careful what he says. He did, however, say that he doesn't want to have anything to do with the reboot because he owes it to the fans of the original... He's the master of subtle jabs.
|Posted by: Miasma 15 July 2019 - 07:35 AM|
| The phrase "trash-talking" may have been a bit strong, but, regardless of whether we agree or disagree with RDA's comments, I think we can all agree that it must be tough (or at least irritating) for the cast of the reboot when they're expected to praise someone who clearly doesn't like their work. So I still think they've been handling it well.
|Posted by: real_ness 16 July 2019 - 12:55 AM|
|Why is this being discussed again, did he say something else? Just curious|