I'm wondering if maybe Cassian's mother found out what Murdoc/Dennis really does for a living, and left him, maybe causing Murdoc to kill her, or someone else to go after her because she knew too much? If that happened, Murdoc may have lost faith in romantic love, seeing it as a fleeting thing, which is why he was so upset with Helman leaving him for a woman. It would also show at least part of the reason why Murdoc wants Cassian to know nothing about what he does.

Murdoc does seem to feel a tad betrayed about Helman, at least. Like he's thinking, "Oh, you had to run out on me too?!" Maybe he feels that Cassian is all that he has left.

Great, I'm starting to think I'm Murdoc's psychiatrist.

This post has been edited by Dragondog on 8 February 2018 - 03:39 PM

I was hoping that MDBs character would have died a classic Murdoc "death" at the hands of Murdoc, while yelling...
MUUUURRRDDDOOOOCCC!!!!!


I really enjoyed this episode. But yes, MDB was way underutilized. Hopefully he turns up again.
And yes, the beans scene was pretty funny.

Angus MacGyver: The only thing I couldn't make was a spoon. So you want to, you want to drink some beans?

Jack Dalton: That's disgusting. No, I'm-I'm all beaned out.

Murdoc: Oh, if he doesn't want the beans, can I have them, MacGyver? What? They look like delicious beans.

Angus MacGyver: Knock yourself out.



Angus MacGyver: Well, we can't stay here. Let's go.

Murdoc: Can I have my can of beans? -

Jack Dalton: Your b -
(Mac gives him the beans)
Murdoc: Thank you.

Yep. And I know I already mentioned this, but I just love how Jack is trying to talk about his love problems, and Murdoc just busts out singing until Jack turns on him. I was like, "Oh Jack, you're just jealous that Murdoc can sing better than you."

Murdoc has enough problems of his own without listening to somebody else's.

"Daddies, are we there yet?"

Murdoc has awesome lines!

I had to smile when MacGyver patted him down for weapons and Murdoc said, "Careful, Angus. I'm quite ticklish."

He does have great line!

Me too!

Me too!

I think David Dastmalchian loved that line, too. He was sharing it on twitter.

After that story he told about the spider, I can't help but think of how hilarious it would have been if he'd sang "The Itsy-Bitsy Spider" instead of "Home on the Range".

Me too!

I think David Dastmalchian loved that line, too. He was sharing it on twitter.

After that story he told about the spider, I can't help but think of how hilarious it would have been if he'd sang "The Itsy-Bitsy Spider" instead of "Home on the Range".

YES!!! That would have been great!

Me too!

I think David Dastmalchian loved that line, too. He was sharing it on twitter.

After that story he told about the spider, I can't help but think of how hilarious it would have been if he'd sang "The Itsy-Bitsy Spider" instead of "Home on the Range".

YES!!! That would have been great!

Maybe next time?

I think it's kinda funny how Murdoc talked to Mac about their dads. Like how one minute he's like, "Do you have any idea WHY your dad abandoned you?" Then the next he's all, "Have you ever thought about murdering your father?" I was just like, "Well, that escalated quickly."

One last thing I have to say about this episode- did Murdoc really need to shoot Mac in order to save him? He probably could have just took 2 steps to the right and got Helman that way. But what would have been the fun in that?

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This was another good episode. They usually are when David Mastalchian's name appears on the credits and they add another classic name to it like Michael Des Barres.

First things first.

Did I just saw Matty laughing for the very first time? And I'm also immediately going to say what I disliked the most about this episode: Diane. Just was like totally not needed in this episode.

That aside, this was a pretty awesome episode but yet it suffers from the usual problems when it comes to bad guys mainly: they're underused. Though I was very glad MDB made a guest star appearance. His ending may have anticlimatic but is this his real ending. I'm sure he will be back sooner or later. He enjoys this too much. Besides if Murdoc is a codename and Murdoc doesn't die, they can all come back.

Oh and yes, the bean-scene was hilarious just as much as Jack's comment that reboots don't work.

I'm going to try and respond in general here because I've seen a lot of valid points.

It indeed does look a bit strange that the crew seemingly abandoned The Collectives storyline but as Dragondog's post above mine says: What if that was the plan all along? But why would he tell Cassie to put on the music and close his eyes and why did he so threatening take that kitchen knife?

There are so many good story angles here, which I hope they better take on. One of them is indeed as Dragondog implied:

What if MacGyver and Murdoc are in fact half brothers? And Cage is their half sister?

On the other hand I was thinking what if Cage and Murdoc were a couple once and Cage is Cassie's mother? Then again what went so wrong he wants to kill her?

I do think the Collectives are a great storyline and they don't have to be the same as the Organization. Though merely mentioned, I had more the idea the Organization was more a terrorist organization while the Collectives are killers. Yet I don't see a reason why they can't merge together and become HIT. Still I would like to see Murdoc round up all the bad guys that get away (we already have The Ghost) and have them fight it out in the last season in an epic season length storyline. But only in the last season. Just think of it: Murdoc, Helman, The Ghost and who knows who else might show up in new roles or rebooted roles (the Von Leers, Axminster, Piedra, Deborah) as a team of bad guys under the watchful eye of Patricia Thornton takes it up against the Phoenix Team: Mac, Jack, Riley, Bozer, Matty, Charlie Robinson, Nikki and however else might join the team like maybe The Coltons or detective Greer.

You can debate on which teams Nikki and Cage will be. Maybe Cage is a good guy after all and Nikki joins the bad guys. Or the other way around. I think it would make it complete but they should use the course of the show to build this up until the last season and then they can end it with Murdoc's death falling off or into something screaming Mac's name.

Blog post by Technical Advisor Rhett Allain about the MacGyverisms used in this episode: https://rhettallain.com/2019/07/12/macgyver...rdoc-handcuffs/