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|Posted by: MacNymph 22 July 2007 - 02:40 PM|
|Are we able to make a list of all the things Mac ever ate and drank?|
|Posted by: MacsChick 22 July 2007 - 02:48 PM|
| Uh...I'll start with a few.
Tofu (Out in the Cold)
Lizard (The Gauntlet)
Egg roll (also Out in the Cold)
Fish (Final Approach)
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 22 July 2007 - 03:05 PM|
| chicken (Jack in the box)
Lamb sandwich? (slow death)
Alfalfa sprouts (can't remember episode)
Indicates that he eats pan cakes in runners
Orange juice (runners)
Tomato juice (Heist)
mouthful of wine (but didn't like it) (the heist)
|Posted by: MacGyver 22 July 2007 - 03:32 PM|
|Looks like the answer to your question is "Yes".|
|Posted by: MacGyver 22 July 2007 - 03:42 PM|
| Don't forget the infamous world famous MacGyver bayou-burned blackened redfish! ("Family Matter")
And yes- believe it or not, MacGyver has had coffee- I'm pretty sure that's what he took a sip of in the opening gambit of the "Pilot" episode.
And he does alude to having a morning coffee in "The Prodigal".
But then later on, he makes it more clear that he's much more into orange juice and has something of an aversion to coffee- or at least that's the impression I got.
I think MacGyver also has orange juice in "Countdown" and "The Survivors"
And wasn't that carrot juice he said he had in the air balloon at the start of "GX-1"?
Oh yeah- and he had a chocolate bar in the "Pilot" episode!
|Posted by: Old Fan 22 July 2007 - 03:46 PM|
| He made somekind of protien drink - with a raw egg in it - in The Negotiator... with Deborah listening via her hidden microphone. (I think that was this ep... please correct me if I'm wrong...)
And he ate maybe one forkful of Pete's stew (I made it... well, out of a can...) in The Survivors.
He DIDN'T eat Faith and Hope's pea soup and crackers in "Faith, Hope & Charity".
|Posted by: Jesse 22 July 2007 - 04:05 PM|
| I coulda sworn they never showed him eat Pete's stew ... I remember watching it a few times intently, seeing if he broke his sort-of vegetarian habits. Did I miss something???
And yer right, he made a protein shake with egg whites in The Negotiator, love that ep!
OH, doesn't Mac eat chicken in Jack in the Box. Jack had it hidden under the floor boards. Or did he just look at it? Been a few months.
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 22 July 2007 - 04:08 PM|
| He orders (but doesn't get to drink) coffee in last stand.
And didn't they have coffee in morning in Invisible killer? But turned out to be spiked with berries. I think they had coffee at the lookout tower too didn't they.. but we don't know if MacGyver had any or not.
|Posted by: trtlsoup 22 July 2007 - 04:49 PM|
| You guys have great memories! I can't recall anything that he ate (or drank...)
I know he eats ice cream... it's in the opening credits. I know. Lame. (...and I call myself a fan.)
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 22 July 2007 - 05:01 PM|
no he doesn't eat the stew. Shows Pete eating it, but MacGyver doesn't.
|Posted by: Old Fan 22 July 2007 - 05:28 PM|
| Ah - OK - I wasn't sure... going from memory here - I haven't actually see the episode (The Survivors) for awhile - that scene at the table in the cabin just sticks in my mind - where Pete informs Mac that he is to be his last charge before being rotated off the assignment. Now that I think about it... I remember Mac just pushes the plate away - without eating anything.
|Posted by: MacNymph 22 July 2007 - 05:50 PM|
|Why don't we split up and each take different episodes to watch?|
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 22 July 2007 - 05:50 PM|
| Salad (runners)
Fish (target MacGyver)
Ginger ale (more than once episode.. I think)
non alcoholic eggnog (Phoenix under siege)
if we can get a good list together I'll add it to the web site
|Posted by: MacGyver 22 July 2007 - 06:54 PM|
MacGyver certainly did eat chicken in "Jack in the Box". I don't think he ever explicitly stated to be a vegetarian- I just know that he liked tofu and whipped bean curd every now and then. But he's also been seen eating fish and chicken and lizard, so he's not a strict vegetarian if he does claim to be one at all. (And I'm pretty sure he had eggs and bacon at the start of "Countdown" for breakfast- but I'll have to double check that before I can say for sure.)
|Posted by: trtlsoup 22 July 2007 - 08:08 PM|
Count me in to get a list together, if you end up doing that... I should have access to my DVDs after next week. Actually, I'd really love to watch it for something like that...
And like I said before, you all have amazing memories...
|Posted by: Lothithil 22 July 2007 - 08:44 PM|
| I think that MacNymph has a great idea... we should each take an episode or two and make notes. I'm not so strict as to judge the things that Mac eats as 'what he actually puts in his mouth', I include food that is implied to be consumed, remembered, and handled (such as the brownies that he baked for the kids in 'Final Approach' and the pancakes he made for Crystal/Jennifer).
According to my research MacGyver consumes, remembers consuming, or attempts to consume, the following things:
**From Pilot episode until The Widowmaker**
Please note that this list was composed BEFORE I bought the unedited version of Season 1.
Coffee (pilot ep, Last Stand, Twice Stung, Silent World, total of 7 occasions up to--)
Chocolate bar (Pilot)
Broiled Chicken (Goldn Tri)
Chocolate ice cream (Thief)
Roast lizard (Gauntlet)
Unknown h'orderve (during the 'exhibition scene' in The Heist)
Apple (Heist, Last Stand, total of 3 occasions up to--)
Virgin Mary w/ celery (tomato juice with tobasco) (Heist)
Red wine (Heist)
Mystery stew in the Pyrenees (Gambit prior to Trumbo's world)
Chewing gum (Hellfire)
Orange juice (Prodigal)
Soda/cola of some kind (Prodigal)
Carrot (gambit prior to Target:Mac)
Fish (Target:Mac, mulitple occasions up to--)
Egg roll (Enemy Within, OitC)
Milk (Slow Death)
Roast lamb sandwich (Slow Death)
Prison food (Escape)
Ginger ale (Eraser)
Stuffed olives (Eraser)
Alfalfa sprout sandwich (Eraser)
Bean curd (Eraser)
Pastrami on rye (peace offering/bribe) (Twice Stung)
Brownies (bribe) (Final Approach)
Mountain Trout w/ wild mushrooms and pinenuts (Final Approach)
Rattlesnake (that takes care of lunch!) (Final Approach)
Indian food (Silent World)
Egg nogg (non-alcoholic) (PF u/Siege)
Bayou Blackend Red Fish (burnt) / Cheeseburgers (Family Matters)
Tofu Casserole (Out/Cold)
Rations (jerky, bread) (Bushmaster)
Unknown sandwich-type food (Phil's Diner) (DOA:Mac)
Trail mix (GX-1)
Phillipe's Chicken (Jack/Box)
Orange fruit (Widow)
My research in ongoing.... so please feel free to regard this list as 'things to look for' in your own research, to use or disregard!
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 22 July 2007 - 08:49 PM|
| good list.. you got episodes to match em to?
I probably should have added this before, but it would be good to be able to match the food to the episodes.
|Posted by: Lothithil 22 July 2007 - 09:00 PM|
... sadistic, merciless...
um, yeah, the thing is, Rock... I noted what foods and how many times i saw it, but not exactly which episodes they are from (my notebook was starting to look like a retro-screenplay )
I'll go through and make notes of where I saw what, as far as my memory will permit, and I'll gladly make such notes when I watch again.
Do we want to note only the food we see Mac eat, or the food we see him handle, speak fondly in regard to, and otherwise imply the possiblility of?
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 22 July 2007 - 09:36 PM|
| I think we'll go with see him eat and implied that he ate.
We can put a little (implied) in the appropriate places so I can distinguish them.
|Posted by: j12752 23 July 2007 - 04:12 AM|
|Mac's also drinking coffee in the beginning of The Prodigal, while he's on the balcony waiting for the Romano guy to show up.|
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 23 July 2007 - 07:06 AM|
That was orange juice. He didn't had any coffee as he later on said.
Now trying to fill up Loth's list.
He was chewing on something in The Heist during Caitlin's demonstration. Chewing gum?
Chinese food, egg rolls in Out in the Cold.
Some more chocolat in Bushmaster.
Water and nuts in GX-1.
The proteïn shake in The Negotiator.
Some sort of a salad with housedressing in The Endangered.
Popsicle orange taste in The Secret of Parker House.
Whatever he was going to eat in The Outsiders. (Don't think it was shown whatever was in those pots)
An apple in Runners and also his famous MacGyver banana pancakes or something.
Hot chocolat? Tea? Coffee? In the finale of Gold Rush.
Egg Rolls in Second Chance. Think it was egg roles, or some other Thai food.
Beans in Serenity.
Whatever he ate with Amy in Log Jam. Any chance of spotting leftovers?
"Hawaiian Pizza with pineapple" in The Wall. Didn't eat it though.
Soup but not sure which soup in Harry's Will. No meal, no package.
Was he eating something in The Wasteland's restaurant scene?
He also had tomato juice in High Control.
Preparing soup/salad in There but for the grace.
Popcorn in Deadly Silence.
Another proteïn shake in The Stringer.
There could be more though. Wasn't there a MacGyver Cookbook site once? Maybe we can make our own cookbook.
Edit: I just looked it up. Apparently there's only a recipe for chocolate chip cookies. Now I say we should do it. Making our own MacGyver Cookbook with recipes, ingrediënts and preparations.
|Posted by: j12752 23 July 2007 - 07:11 AM|
| Ahh, ok. It was only in the first few episodes of the first season where he even mentiuons having coffee
MacGyver cookbook? We can call it "1001 uses for Tofu" lol I like tofu hotdogs
|Posted by: Lothithil 23 July 2007 - 02:06 PM|
| Tofu makes great insoles for combat boots, and is good for filling balloons for the purposes of playing 'War'... but I wouldn't eat it! (kidding!)
now, yogurt is good! With some fresh strawberries or peaches!
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 23 July 2007 - 02:17 PM|
Yum... Bacteria infested milk
|Posted by: Mac 23 July 2007 - 02:49 PM|
I take it you don't eat cheese, either?
who misses yoghurt terribly
|Posted by: Old Fan 23 July 2007 - 03:56 PM|
| The bacteria in yogurt are GOOD bacteria - they help digestion. You may not LIKE yogurt, but for people who are lactose intolerant - like me (can't drink regular milk because they are deficient in an enzyme that helps to digest the sugar in milk) yogurt is OK to consume - the enzyme is in it - so no bad reaction. It's called "Cultured".
|Posted by: MacNymph 23 July 2007 - 04:24 PM|
|He didn't eat anything in The Mountain of Youth|
|Posted by: Lothithil 23 July 2007 - 08:43 PM|
By then, Mac was living soley on air and sunshine!
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 23 July 2007 - 09:29 PM|
|ah yes.. the old air and sunshine diet.|
|Posted by: MacNymph 24 July 2007 - 07:13 AM|
|Bet he didn’t have to worry about his cholesterol level.|
|Posted by: MacNymph 24 July 2007 - 02:13 PM|
| In The Stringer :
he consumes hot tea, a smoothie (oj, strawberries, another berry, banannas and what looks like some kind of protien powder.)
Sam refers to Tofu and wheat germ in the fridge and Mac tosses a loaf of bread to Sam when he wants toast instead of the smoothie.
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 24 July 2007 - 04:00 PM|
|Just saw Ghost Ship, he was baking fish in the campfire scene.|
|Posted by: MacNymph 24 July 2007 - 07:12 PM|
| might have already been said....
In Deadly Silents he eats popcorn
In Split Decision Dent has drank all his milk.
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 24 July 2007 - 11:37 PM|
That was a strawberry!
Heidi had champaign
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 25 July 2007 - 12:28 AM|
| in "the wall" he ordered a Pizza.. was it for him or for the others?
Like wise with the soup/salad in "there but for the grace" was it for him or others?
Loth what does 7 occasions up to-- mean?
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 25 July 2007 - 01:54 AM|
| http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/food.html to see what the list will look like.
Obviously its still a work in progress so if you spot any mistakes please let me know via http://www.macgyveronline.com/forums/index.php?act=Msg&CODE=4&MID=1.
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 25 July 2007 - 04:53 AM|
| Great list, I think it's practically everything.
I think she means he eats something up to 7 times "up to" till this or that episode.
Can we assume he drank coffee with Deborah (not meaning she had a cup) in The Negotiator as he proposed?
|Posted by: Lothithil 25 July 2007 - 06:19 AM|
From the Pilot up to the episode "The Widowmaker"
|Posted by: MacNymph 25 July 2007 - 07:07 AM|
|Posted by: Lothithil 25 July 2007 - 09:35 AM|
| This is my specific list for Season One:
Mongolian coffee (presumed that whatever is in that cup he took from “Hectar” is coffee)
Pentagon coffee (seen in edited footage)
Cigarette (purely for smoke-effect)
The Golden Triangle
Daydreams about mom’s broiled chicken
Thief of Budapest
Ice cream (presumed chocolate by color)
wine with Reena (did not drink)
Breast of Lizard a la MacGyver
Unspecific hors d’œuvre during Catlin’s ‘little exhibition’ (urban foraging)
Coffee (held but not drank)
Edited: Red wine (took a sip to adjust sound... thanks MGod!)
Mac recalls his mother's cooking; "Japanese soup, Italian Pasta, Basque stew"
Basque stew in the Pyrenees
Coffee “It was a little strong.”
Coffee with Laura and Bill (presumed, never saw Mac with a cup... he was juggling onions)
Edited: Chewing gum (uses wrapper to bridge the fuse)
Reference: “Now, technically I’m driving a stolen car following a kidnapping… and I haven’t even had coffee.”
Coffee with Harry “grandma always said that you’d never drink a cup of coffee unless the spoon stood up in it”
Fish with Lisa (presumed)
didn't eat the food
Coffee with Amy “I think we could both use a cup of coffee…” (presumed)
Edited: Orange juice on the terrace (same footage as used in 'The Prodigal'?)
Dinner with the captain (presumed)
The Enemy Within
Champagne/white wine (did not drink)
Egg roll from Ed the coroner
Every Time She Smiles
Milk with meal at restaurant with Penny ‘hiding in plain sight’
To Be a Man
Unspecific meal with Kia and Ahmed
Orders a drink for his professor at the College jazz club
Unspecific meal/drink with Sarah discussing her problem
Coffee with François
Prisoner of Conscious
no food eaten
Now I'm off to view Season Two... work! work! work!
|Posted by: trtlsoup 25 July 2007 - 10:21 AM|
Such a hardship, Loth...
Wow, what a list. Very impressive!
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 25 July 2007 - 10:28 AM|
|And wine in The Heist too for adjusting sound.|
|Posted by: Lothithil 25 July 2007 - 10:56 AM|
Most correct! I missed that one!
|Posted by: MacNymph 25 July 2007 - 05:46 PM|
| Trail of Tears - drank water from stream (bfd)
Hind Sight - nothing
Gunz & Boys - nothing
Off The Wall - nothing
|Posted by: MacGyver 25 July 2007 - 05:50 PM|
Though he did cast a wary eye at young Lobo's graffiti regarding vegetables, so we can assume he is in favor of kids eating their greens- and all vegetables! So it's probably safe to assume MacGyver likes vegetables alright- or is that reading too much into it?
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 26 July 2007 - 12:50 AM|
She said she doesn't drink coffee, and Mac said "neither do I".
It was a way of asking her out on a date, had nothing to do with actually drinking coffee.
|Posted by: Lothithil 27 July 2007 - 06:00 AM|
|Forgot about the chewing gum in 'Hellfire', too...|
|Posted by: Macs Lab Rat 28 July 2007 - 08:37 AM|
| Wow! Good job guys. That’s quite a list. Got one I don’t think has been mentioned yet.
MacGyver drinks from a carton out of his fridge before Jack “kidnaps” him in Friends. Orange container but don’t know if that means orange juice or not.
|Posted by: Lothithil 29 July 2007 - 08:16 PM|
| Loth's List for Season Two:
The Human Factor
no food eaten
Ginger ale and green stuffed olives at Simmon's bar
Shared a meal with Jimmy Kendall
Alfalfa sprout sandwich ("good for you, doesn't stain your clothes")
Jokingly orders a pizza ("run it through the garden, hold the 'chovies")
Glass of milk while Pete eats his whipped bean curd
Coffee with Kelly, Mac doesn't drink
Pastrami on Rye for Joanna, peace offering
The Wish Child
Bottle of water or clear juice after karate lesson (does eating carpet count?)
Pizza a la MacGyver
Brownies for the Pilot Program Kids
Fresh Mountain Trout with wild mushrooms and pine nuts
Rattlesnake for lunch
Possibly coffee on the morning campfire
Jack of Lies
Unspecified beverage in tall wooden container
The Road Not Taken
no food eaten
no food eaten
Coffee with Carrie
Indian food with Pete
Three For The Road
no food eaten
Phoenix Under Siege
Non alcoholic egg nogg with Harry
Mac serves "Imfamous MacGyver's Bayou Burned Blackened Redfish" en flammbé
Suggests getting cheeseburgers after fish burns up
Popcorn with Penny
no food eaten
no food eaten
Out In The Cold
asks for a cup of hot chocolate after being dug out of avalanche
Makes tofu cassarole, but Pete insists on Chinese food
NIbbles on something from Foo Ling's carry-out (rice noodle?)
Mac uses soy sauch packets as a weapon ("gotta have soy sauce with eggrolls!")
Dalton, Jack of Spies
no food eaten
no food eaten
Rations (bread and jerky?)
Chocolate bar in pocket, taken by guard
Can of juice (carrot? orange? mango?) shaken, not stirred
Mac and Pete share a toast, but Mac does not drink
Diesel fuel-flavoured coffee with Carol Varney
Sandwich and soft drink from Phil's Diner
Coffee at Carol's home
For Love Or Money
picnic in Czechoslavakia, wine and red paste
|Posted by: MacNymph 30 July 2007 - 05:55 AM|
I beg your pardon??
Great list Loth! You're the Man!
|Posted by: Lothithil 30 July 2007 - 06:05 AM|
|Lisa Chan did serve Mac a couple of helpings of whoop-butt...|
|Posted by: MacBeth 30 July 2007 - 12:38 PM|
Chewing the carpet is an often overlooked source of fiber. So is chewing the scenery, but that's more common in villains' diets.
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 1 August 2007 - 08:40 PM|
| OK the list has been added to the http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/files.html of the web site.
A big thanks to everyone who contributed to this list, and especially to MacNymph for starting the thread, which has now turned into an exclusive feature to the MOL web site.
Of course, just because it's online, doesn't mean its finished, so feel free to keep adding to it.
Nice work everyone.
|Posted by: Lothithil 1 August 2007 - 10:47 PM|
| Loth's List for Season Three
Lost Love (pt 1)
Drink during Jack's magic show (presumed ginger ale)
Jack orders Mac a double gingerale, which he doesn't drink
Lost Love (pt 2)
no food eaten
Back From The Dead
dinner date with Skippy's Mate (cancelled)
camp-cooking for Karen Graff, presumably fish
Fire And Ice
lunch at the Squash Club (presumed)
Strawberries over the Swill Alps with Heidi
trail mix and canteen water
Bounty Bars in pocket (that ain't milk chocolate!) plastic explosive disguised as candy
Jack In The Box
Lemonade in Smiley, Arkansas
Philipe's Fried Chicken
Oranges on Widow's Ledge, no time to eat
no food eaten
in shopping cart: pinapple and some kind of melon or squash
drinking hot tea with Nikki
no food eaten
drink at Pete's apartment, dark liquid (grape juice or cola)
drinking water or clear beverage at Center Ice Club
The Odd Triple
no food eaten
glass of apple juice or cider
protien shake; whey, wheat germ, egg whites for breakfast
"I don't drink coffee" "Neither do I"
drinking cups of something while smooching Deborah on the couch
no food eaten
Mask of the Wolf
coffee with Anna Lightfoot
Rock The Cradle
"H2O on the rocks" at the Wingman bar (Jack drinks Irish Whiskey)
open bottle of beer spilled on computer (I'm betting it was Jack's)
orders a salad with house dressing at the Wildlife Game Restaurant
no food eaten
(I could have sworn I saw Mac and Luc drinking tea together, but I did not see this scene when I reviewed)
|Posted by: Lothithil 1 August 2007 - 10:55 PM|
| Edit for Season One:
Trumbo's World Gambit:
Mac recalls his mother's cooking; "Japanese soup, Italian Pasta, Basque stew"
Basque /bæsk/ Pronunciation[bask]
1. one of a people of unknown origin inhabiting the western Pyrenees regions in France and Spain.
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 4 August 2007 - 01:39 PM|
Is that beer?
|Posted by: Lothithil 4 August 2007 - 05:21 PM|
| It's hard to say if it is beer, by the label. I thought it a safe assumption that it was, because of one of Mac's lines:
"I sent you to the store for a few necessities, and you come back with chips and beer instead of talcum powder and diapers."
I figured that this line was a set up for the chain-reaction accident. I figured it was Jack's because:
1. Mac doesn't drink alcohol (unless he's trying to open sound-sensitive lock), and
2. I don't think Mac would leave an open bottle next to his computer.
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 4 August 2007 - 06:26 PM|
| I've never made that connection.
I always thought it was some kind of cleaning liquid.
But your theory does make sense.
|Posted by: MacGyver 4 August 2007 - 08:42 PM|
|Random recollection- MacGyver orders milk at the saloon in "Serenity" (though this was in a dream, so I don't know if we count that - though I'm sure it's a safe bet MacGyver drinks milk in reality as well)|
|Posted by: Lothithil 4 August 2007 - 08:47 PM|
|He certainly likes milk with big enormous roast lamb sandwiches! (Slow Death, S1)|
|Posted by: MacBeth 4 August 2007 - 10:24 PM|
Chinese take-out: Mac was willing to eat it, but he denounced the MSG.
End of episode: Mac agrees to go out for Rocky Road ice cream with chocolate syrup, sprinkles, and cherries; for Pete, not necessarily planning to eat it himself.
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 10 August 2007 - 01:48 AM|
| In "early Retirement" MacGyver's drinking something which looks like cola in a glass while looking around Pete's apartment.
|Posted by: MacNymph 10 August 2007 - 05:50 AM|
|Maybe it's prune juice. It is Pete's apartment.|
|Posted by: MacGyversCrush 10 August 2007 - 07:03 AM|
|In Wastelands Mac has an glass of orange juice in fornt of him at the restuarant while talking to the Daughter.|
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 10 August 2007 - 07:50 AM|
Hey that could be cherry-coke. Mac doesn't look like someone drinking regular coke.
|Posted by: Old Fan 10 August 2007 - 11:52 AM|
Why would one assume it's PRUNE juice? Just because Pete is OLDER???
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?????
|Posted by: Lothithil 10 August 2007 - 01:13 PM|
That's just age-ism, that is! Discrimination against us geezers!
*whacks Nymphy around the knees with her cane*
Srsly... I don't think even a health nut like Mac would drink a full glass of prune juice... that stuff is NASTY! I'd rather drink pond-water!
I vote for grape juice.
|Posted by: MacNymph 10 August 2007 - 01:39 PM|
He's an older person and he has a poor diet.
You're head isn't going to explode is it?
|Posted by: MacNymph 10 August 2007 - 01:43 PM|
Yeah right And there wasn't a reason the first thing that popped into my head was prunes.
Hey! Knock it off ya old biddie!
Oh, yeah. That's probably not such a good idea. Even when desperate.
|Posted by: Lothithil 10 August 2007 - 03:03 PM|
|Posted by: Old Fan 11 August 2007 - 05:22 PM|
| No... my head will not explode - today. And, who you callin' a geezer????? Speak for your self, missy!
Actually, nowadays, they aren't called "prunes" any more - they're referred to as "Dried Plums".
Must be a marketing ploy...
I'm thinking they (TPTB) couldn't get enough OLD people to buy them - to increase their profits, so... they changed the name to make them seem less... I don't know - medicinal sounding? Technically, they ARE dried plums -
|Posted by: MacNymph 11 August 2007 - 05:47 PM|
|reverse political correctness?|
|Posted by: MacGyver 11 August 2007 - 09:47 PM|
Ah- a warrior's drink!
(Star Trek: The Next Generation reference there- prune juice was what Guinan would serve Worf when he wanted something really strong- and he deemed it a real warrior's drink! )
|Posted by: Nutsy 20 August 2007 - 10:31 AM|
|About the "mystery stew", Mac says it is "Basque stew". Being Basque myself, there is no such thing as Basque stew. Moreover, the Basque Country is not in the Pyrenees, and Basques do not look they way they are portrayed in the episode but I guess that was just poetic licence; no problem. I thought I should make my point about the stew, though.|
|Posted by: pinky 24 March 2008 - 09:35 PM|
| Angus dind't dirnk coffe
In the episode when the a girl make mac get inlove with her.
She began going to the same painting lessons that Mac was to getting closer. They chat a about some animal and then Mac invited to drink a coffe and she said she didnt drink coffe, Mac said neither i am.
I'm rustier than what i think on english writtings
I really don'nt know the name episode or the season
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 24 March 2008 - 10:11 PM|
In the Pilot episode we see MacGyver drinking coffee.
In Last Stand MacGyver sits down and asks for a coffee.
In The Prodigal, we hear him complain about not having his morning coffee.
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 25 March 2008 - 01:36 AM|
He said that to smooth Deborah out. Of course we only saw him drinking coffee in the first season, after that not anymore.
|Posted by: MacGyver 25 March 2008 - 04:50 PM|
Good point- I tend to think of MacGyver's taste for coffee being one of those things that the writers initially had in mind and then did away with it after deciding that MacGyver would not be a coffee kind of guy.
Of course, you can also just argue that MacGyver simply lost the taste for coffee and at some point in 1986 just kinda swore it off.
Perhaps he made some dietary changes at the same point and started leaning toward health food, though not strictly being a vegetarian.
|Posted by: pinky 25 March 2008 - 06:03 PM|
|Posted by: MacsChick 25 March 2008 - 06:09 PM|
|In The Secret of Parker House, Penny mentions to the sheriff how Mac's always saying that coffee doesn't agree with his stomach. Maybe it gave him too much heartburn, so he quit drinking it.|
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 25 March 2008 - 06:14 PM|
|Well that would uncertainly be a good explanation.|
|Posted by: MacGyver 26 March 2008 - 03:23 PM|
Good observation- of course, that may also have just been MacGyver's way of saying that he doesn't like coffee, without necessarily meaning it literally. But yeah, you can read that one either way and it works fine. In any case, we know that MacGyver drank coffee for a while in the First Season and either it was one of those things the writers hoped you forgot about and when you see Mac drinking orange juice for breakfast instead or something that you're supposed to assume that he's always had a dislike for coffee.
Or you can decide that he used to drink coffee in the First Season and somewhere after that point he simply decided to quit drinking coffee, for medical (i.e. heartburn) or other reasons, like he simply didn't like it anymore.
|Posted by: MacsChick 26 March 2008 - 05:52 PM|
|I know that happened with me. I used to drink pure black coffee--no frills, no frou-frou lattes--just plain, strong black coffee. Well, it upset my stomach, made me nervous, and after awhile I just couldn't stand the taste. I quit drinking it, which is hard in a world of coffee drinkers to say you don't drink coffee, but I just don't follow the trends when it comes to my palate.|
|Posted by: MacGyver 26 March 2008 - 07:04 PM|
| Yes! Another convert!
Ha ha- yeah, I don't drink coffee either. I don't have a problem with it as far as heartburn or such goes- I've just never liked the taste of it. And I think it kind of creates a dependency with some people who go rather fanatical over it.
I much prefer a good old glass of orange juice.
Of course, I think this is also something MacGyver helped influence as well.
(And Family Ties- it seems the whole Keaton household was always drinking orange juice out the wazoo!)
|Posted by: Lothithil 28 March 2008 - 10:35 PM|
| Wildly overdue... sorry for the delay!
Loth's List for Season Four
The Secret of Parker House
Some of the contents of grocery bags: bananas, rice cakes, coffee
Cake with chocolate mint and banana icing (made for Penny)
Penny quotes MacGyver as saying "coffee is too hard on his stomach"
Knows mescaline by taste
no food eaten
Breakfast (in the middle of the night, fcol!)
Dinner interrupted by dynamite
On a Wing and a Prayer
Chewing gum (part of sky-pirate disguise)
no food eaten
Stew with Pete (we don't see him eat, but he sits down for the meal)
Pete throws Mac an orange (uses juice of orange to develop film)
Identifies cocaine by taste
no food eaten
Mention of Sushi sandwiches
H2O on the rocks at The Wingman Bar
no food eaten
Fraternity of Thieves
Drinks orange juice at 'Viva!' club
The Battle of Tommy Giordano
no food eaten
no food eaten
Meal at the convention center, green stuff and orange juice (with Crystal/Jennifer)
Bowl of fruit on Mac's table; oranges, apples, bananas
World famous whole-wheat banana pancakes (note that bananas are gone from fruit bowl from this point)
Yogurt and sprouts (in refrigerator)
Freeze-dried fruit juice (seen in supplies)
Russian 'white thunder' (Mac does not drink any)
Hot beverage with Natalie
The Invisible Killer
Rations (gourmet selection of the finest freeze-dried food known to man) (referenced)
Coffee at the Fire Look-Out (Mac not seen drinking)
Camp coffee (no one drank, poisoned)
Perrier water (drinks from measuring cup!)
Dream-Mac pours orange juice from pitcher with star on it
no food eaten (but that truckstop does have the best corned beef hash you've ever tasted!)
no food eaten
no food eaten
*off to watch Season 5 again, pen and pad poised... such is the life of an obsessed researcher!*
|Posted by: MacBeth 28 March 2008 - 11:23 PM|
Now that's continuity!! And outstanding research. Way to go!
I think that green stuff is called "salad".
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 29 March 2008 - 12:27 AM|
Are you implying that Mac's been a coke head at some time?
|Posted by: Lothithil 29 March 2008 - 06:09 AM|
| Not at all!
I am sure that his exposure to 'controlled substances' is purely from his work fighting drug lords, and crime moguls... and for the best seats in the hockey rink.
|Posted by: MacBeth 30 March 2008 - 07:56 PM|
Lothi, when you get to "Log Jam", the meal he shares with Amy looks like rice and vegetables -- specifically broccoli and bok choy.
|Posted by: Lothithil 30 March 2008 - 08:59 PM|
| Oh, thanks!! *takes notes*
|Posted by: Lothithil 10 August 2008 - 08:46 PM|
| O! I thought I'd done S5! Shame on me!
Will update soon!
|Posted by: Marcin 20 May 2014 - 02:17 AM|
| Many times I was wandering what MacGyver liked to eat and drink. We can see him eating or drinking from time to time, but I think that there are some inconsistency.
Ok, one thing is certain - he likes icecream
He also don't drink alcohol - if I'm right.
In "The Prodigal" MacGyver is saying: "Now technically I'm driving a stolen car, following a kidnapper, and I haven't even had my first cup of coffee" but, in few episodes He is against drinking coffee.
|Posted by: Joe SAKic 20 May 2014 - 02:37 AM|
| I don't drink coffee anymore ... but often use it in expressions and talk about like I do. Same sort of syndrome - One head, two minds.
As for alcohol, I think that he wasn't exactly a teetotaler but only had a drink on special occasions - like in Log Jam where he has a glass of brandy with Amy.
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 20 May 2014 - 02:40 AM|
| Mac's a health freak. He prefers juices over alcohol and tofu over junkfood. He doesn't even drink Cola for all I know.
Mac is not against drinking coffee. Maybe he just drinks it black with no sugar. He told Deborah once that he doesn't drink coffee either just to be charming.
Mac likes icecream (Thief of Budapest/Secret of Parker House), drinks coffee, orange juice (Serenity and several other episodes), carrot juice (Hell Week), tomato juice (High Control), ginger ale and alfa alfa sprouts (The Eraser) he also eat fruit like apples (The Heist and Runners) and oranges (The Widowmaker), he likes to eat Chinese (Out in the Cold and MacGyver's Women), eggroles (Second Chance) and is always up for pizza (Easy Target) and cheeseburgers (Family Matter) but he think hotdogs are weak (Jerico Games) and he loves chocolat (Pilot) and he always has bread somewhere in (The Stringer).
Further more he enjoys everything nature has to offer, nuts and fish.
Huh?? He took a sip of wine in The Heist, but I don't recall Mac having a brandy in Log Jam?
|Posted by: denizen 20 May 2014 - 03:10 AM|
|Nicely put, MacGyverGod!|
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 20 May 2014 - 03:35 AM|
|There is also the traditional English Breakfast in Legend of the Holy Rose, the lunch scene with Frank Colton in Black Corsage, I assume it were beans in Serenity. Just some wild guesses.|
|Posted by: KiwiTek 20 May 2014 - 03:40 AM|
| You can see the http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/food.html.
There's an in depth discussion about whether he's a vegetarian or not http://www.macgyveronline.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2694.
MacGyver was against drinking alcohol and states as much in a number of episodes; not the least of which was 20 Questions in which he explains why he doesn't drink.
We do see him take a mouth full of wine in The Heist but it was part of a MacGyverism AND he screws up his face in disgust at the taste. We also see him avoid it in a couple (maybe more) episodes. One being Enemy Within where he takes a glass of wine offered to him and then hands it off to someone else. The second is the beginning of GX-1 when he toasts Heidi in the hot-air balloon. She has a glass of champagne and he has a strawberry.
|Posted by: Joe SAKic 20 May 2014 - 05:57 AM|
|Well, he's clearly accepted & nursing a glass of brandy/cognac by the fireside in Log Jam. Traditional for this part of the world. Sometimes the ambience (and or the script/setting) just induces one to imbibe. In other words, to hell with the squeaky-clean geekiness for a moment, boost the ratings, and appease the audience majority and do what they might do in a similar situation.|
|Posted by: Marcin 20 May 2014 - 05:58 AM|
| thanks a lot for nice discussion :-)
...I'm sure, that once I've seen scene where someone said, that Mac always say that coffee is no good for stomach... I have to find it.
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 20 May 2014 - 07:10 AM|
Assignment for tonight, checking out Log Jam and find out for myself. You might be right though. If so, Mac is only human and probably figured: what the hey, one doesn't hurt. You live in a cabin in the woods, fire is cracking in the fireplace, you had a good meal after a hard day of work and have a brandy by the fire.
|Posted by: Jediferret 20 May 2014 - 09:05 AM|
You're thinking of Secret of Parker House. Penny offers the officer some coffee. The officer declines saying it was too hard on his stomach. Penny motions to MacGyver and says "That's what he always says".
On the subject of Mac drinking in Log Jam. I actually checked it out. It's kinda hard to tell what he's drinking. Nothing about that scene proves or disproves that he was drinking alcohol. I would say that this is something that's up to the viewer.
I'm an experienced drinker, and anytime I watched the scene, I just assumed he was drinking ginger ale or water while they finished up a meal. Given Mac's character and his dislike of alcohol... I really, highly doubt that's what it was.
But hey, who knows... I can be wrong.
|Posted by: Joe SAKic 20 May 2014 - 10:34 AM|
| It's implicit, isn't it, with the fireside dinner, crystal double highball glasses used primarily for the serving of alcohol, the intense discussion, and Mac even swirls his glass a bit like you would with a fine liquor as he sets it on the table.
Or sure it could be ginger ale ... but the setting suggests otherwise and the whole scenario of two old friends discussing serious environmental issues over fine dinning and a soda pop is probably not the message the director would ever want to send.
There's also the slight illusion of romance created and which is used to set up the next scene where we are left in doubt whether or not there are any sparks happening between Amy & Mac. And with that in mind, a brandy by the fire somehow conjures up more romantic ambience then a bottle of A&W root beer could ever hope to.
|Posted by: Jediferret 20 May 2014 - 10:59 AM|
|It could be alcohol... but I highly doubt it.|
|Posted by: Joe SAKic 20 May 2014 - 11:15 AM|
|It appears to be amber, dense and Mac appears to 'sip' it as he contemplates the facts that Amy is presenting. Too flat for ginger ale and too colored for water.|
|Posted by: Jediferret 20 May 2014 - 11:34 AM|
| LOL! You're really trying to sell it aren't ya?
Dude, Mac doesn't like to drink. He doesn't like alcohol. My mother was the same way. She did a lot of things very similar to what you're claiming without alcohol. Could have been juice for all we know.
They were just finishing up a meal, and Mac doesn't like to drink. So I doubt it was alcohol.
RDA on the other hand... he was probably drinking something alcoholic.
Mac? Nah... I don't buy it.
|Posted by: Joe SAKic 20 May 2014 - 11:55 AM|
| I'm not trying to sell anything - the director was trying to sell it given the ambience of the set chosen. I'm just interpreting what I saw. I bet 99/100 people would say that's some kind of liquor if shown the same scene and not knowing the background of Mac's preferred tastes.
I wish Mac had of said, "Amy, that's the best dang fireside prune juice I've ever had and would you mind topping me up while I use the washroom!'
But he didn't (thankgawd) and left us to draw conclusions from the visual evidence provided.....
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 20 May 2014 - 12:29 PM|
| I just saw it myself. You have to look fast though because you can see him putting the glass down. Considering they were both having a serious conversation and were really into it about the loggers and all, I doubt they would've been discussing it with alcohol. So nope, it wasn't. It looks like fun though having a meal next to fireplace.
Besides it was working day after, imagine Mac having a wooden head when he goes for a job.
|Posted by: Jediferret 20 May 2014 - 12:30 PM|
| Joe SAKic - I don't mind being the 1/100 that thinks otherwise. lol The reason I don't believe that it's alcohol is based on my own personal experiences and what I know of Mac's character. Not based off some "ambiance" that you claim is there that I just don't see.
And that's ORGANIC fireside prune juice to you.
|Posted by: Joe SAKic 20 May 2014 - 01:08 PM|
| Lol, Mac could be chugging clear liquid out of a 40ozer and there would be doubting thomas' among the hardcore fandom.
It was amidst rugged logging country for gawdsakes - they're not known for their teatotalling & kool-aid sipping after a day slogging timber and slapping skeeters - that's for sure.
And the Monday night audience full of tailgating football fans would like to believe that Mac might have a wee sip with them every now & then . And so they left it open to interpretation with lowball glasses, alcoholic proportions and prototypical setting .... and slid it right though. And relax folks, it was just a sociable sip for crying out loud - no need to call AA just yet.
|Posted by: KiwiTek 20 May 2014 - 01:13 PM|
| I just watched that scene and there's no swirling of the glass. Just a slight movement as he puts it down after taking a sip. He's also entirely focused on the newspaper clipping being handed to him as he does this. You normally swirl before you drink to release the scent and flavor not as you put the glass down.
The liquid is clear and flat... kinda like water.
And knowing that it's VERY well established that MacGyver doesn't drink at all. (He even states in one episode that carrot juice is a strong as he gets.) I think it's a 100% certainty that it was water in those glass tumblers.
|Posted by: Joe SAKic 20 May 2014 - 01:29 PM|
|I just showed it to three people at the office who don't know MacGyver. One said whiskey and the other two said cognac. Amy has very rusty pipes if it's 100% water. Regardless of what it is (often a little maple syrup diluted with water) - they appease both sides of their audience by making it look as close as possible to an alcoholic beverage that goes better with the particular setting and then by staying mum on the beverage and there by not incriminating Mac in the eye's of his watchdog fans. Btw, if there was a bottle of root beer sitting on the table - the next scene with the peeping jealous husband would not have been nearly as effective.|
|Posted by: KiwiTek 23 May 2014 - 12:04 AM|
Or very dirty glassware.
Seems like a plausible explanation. But it does leave the question of what it could be within the non-drinking MacGyver universe. It does have a bit of a tinge to it.
|Posted by: Joe SAKic 23 May 2014 - 06:08 AM|
| I just think the 'MacGyver Management' wanted the best of both worlds in that scene. Usually - if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck ... but there's nothing in the accompanying props/script that proved it a duck.
Amy probably just had the most stressful day off her life - just been arrested, marriage in tatters, and beloved forest under the knife. Enter old friend (and former love interest?) MacGyver to the rescue, a relaxing dinner by the fire with very appropriate looking and matching drinks. I know what 'they' needed & wanted us to believe they were sipping and for that 80s/90s scenario. And I also know what that era's audience would expect old friends (Mormons et al excluded) to be sipping by the fire.
Certainly had they had shown us 'what kind' of a sip Mac had taken - we would have known definitively if it were alcohol or not. But they chose not to in lieu of enhancing the slightly romantic ambience and have the drinking glass pass through the fire light for further effect.
So we are left with a split decision - the Mac purists in denial and the period etiquette purists in approval.
|Posted by: KiwiTek 23 May 2014 - 07:00 AM|
| It's weird that 2 episodes before this one we see MacGyver as a cowboy in a saloon turning down alcoholic drink and asking for a glass of milk instead and then being hassled about it, including the line "he doesn't drink, he doesn't carry a gun. Is he wearing lace underwear?" (paraphrased).
|Posted by: Joe SAKic 23 May 2014 - 10:42 AM|
|That was a dream. Anything goes in a dream and even Mac might have been susceptible to the odd vice. Personally, I would have had him let his hair down a bit, slug back a few whiskeys with Jack and the boyz in Serenity ... and then slug Murdoch or something. Good opportunity for something a little different - missed.|
|Posted by: KiwiTek 23 May 2014 - 03:19 PM|
| They weren't looking to do something a little different though because the shows fandom was built around having a hero who didn't do any of those usual things we see heroes doing in the other shows. So probably not so much opportunity missed as opportunity ignored.
So the answer to the this little conundrum about what was in those glasses I guess it that it was left to the viewers imagination to read into that scene what they like. But for the purposes of our food list I'm going to take into account the characters very well documented (and somewhat regularly referred to) dislike of alcohol which would mean it was dirty water?
I can see you're point of view though Joe. They certainly did load that scene with suggestive material.
|Posted by: Joe SAKic 23 May 2014 - 03:56 PM|
My fandom basis is that he was into hockey, using his brains, the out of doors, and high technology. That's what I remember best, if you had asked me a year ago when I started to revisit the series if he'd ever shot a gun or took a drink in the series - I think I would have probably said yes to both. It's not something I kept track of with mental notepad and paper or found a particularly important characteristic of the show.
And the fact that he did or didn't has no basis what so ever on my appreciation for the show or character. I think the series touched fans in many different ways and struck many chords along the way.
Having said that and having come of age in that era and in the heart of logging country - it would be definitely have been the norm to have a proper tipple with an old friend in such a given situation - and they tried their very best to sell it as so.
|Posted by: MacFan092985 26 March 2019 - 06:47 PM|
|Olives, "The little green ones with the pimento." - The Eraser|
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 27 March 2019 - 12:33 AM|
| nice catch.
|Posted by: Rocket 27 March 2019 - 01:14 AM|
I watched 'The Heist' the other day, in which Mac does the trick with the wine glasses making different notes to open the safe.
He drinks the wine to get the glass to 'sing' the right note and the look on his face is priceless - never have I seen someone enjoy the taste of something LESS!
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 27 March 2019 - 04:41 AM|
|Just because he doesn't drink doesn't mean he doesn't like the taste of a fine wine. A fine wine that isn't even his.|
|Posted by: Jediferret 27 March 2019 - 05:05 AM|
| That look on his face is the same as mine when I drink wine that's too dry. I would think it's because he didn't like it because I'm not a fan of dry wine. XD
Most likely it was just something like grape juice. Jensen Ackles revealed some things used by the props department with alcoholic drinks and coffee. Apparently, coffee is flat Coca Cola, whiskey is Coca Cola cut with water and beer is a non-alcoholic variant. I dunno why, but I find that rather interesting... XD
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 28 March 2019 - 02:39 AM|
| Why? Because everyone would get loaded, that's why.
I heard champagne is mostly sparkling water.