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QUOTE (Dragondog @ 3 January 2018 - 03:39 AM)
Wait, who was Frankie? I can't remember. laugh.gif

As for what will happen to Cage this Friday, I agree that she probably survives. We'll see soon, but I've seen some crew members wondering when Cage will return. I doubt they'd wonder that if she died. hmm.bmp

Frankie was Mac's colleague from MIT who faked her death in Episode 1x19.

I liked her and would love her to come back. I liked that episode anyway because it was pretty "old-school-MacGyver"-like.


Oh, interesting. Which crew-members wondered about that?



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QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 3 January 2018 - 12:06 PM)
QUOTE (Dragondog @ 3 January 2018 - 03:39 AM)
Wait, who was Frankie? I can't remember. laugh.gif

As for what will happen to Cage this Friday, I agree that she probably survives. We'll see soon, but I've seen some crew members wondering when Cage will return. I doubt they'd wonder that if she died. hmm.bmp

Frankie was Mac's colleague from MIT who faked her death in Episode 1x19.

I liked her and would love her to come back. I liked that episode anyway because it was pretty "old-school-MacGyver"-like.


Oh, interesting. Which crew-members wondered about that?

Yeah, NOW I remember Frankie. I wouldn't mind if she did come back.

As for Cage's survival, I'm actually referring to an old post you shared in the "Season 2 Production" category. On page 17, there was a post by Jack's stand-in, which had a reply from Cage's stand-in saying, "I wish they would get Cage back in there," or something. If Cage dies, it would make more sense for her to say, "I wish they COULD get Cage back in there".



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Will isabel lucas be back on macgyver before season 2 ends?



 
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Probably not. She hasn't been seen on set from what I've heard. I hope she comes back at some point, at least so we can find out what the secrets she's hiding are.

It's a shame, 'cause I'm assuming that the reason she left was because of all the hate she was getting on social media. I, for one, liked having her around.

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Thanks for welcoming me, and answering my question, like you, i like her on macgyver too, hopefully she comes back, its not the same without her, you may be right about the hate she's getting from social media, the producers listens to feedbacks on social media and that may be the reason shes not part of the cast anymore, same thing that happens to the original pilot, all negative reactions that prompted the producers to scrap that. But still hoping she comes back and she's only on a vacation..



 
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I do hope she Comes back at one Point because her storyline was never finished - at least not satisfyingly.

Weirdly, she's still listed as a regular cast member on all the Press Releases. Not sure what's going on since I don't know much about TV productions and laws. Maybe she had a contract for the whole Season and was forced to leave early? Or there's some big plot Twist going on and she Comes back?

Isabel spent a few months in Australia, but was back in LA at the time when they filmed the Season Finale. So it's actually possible she's "back" for an Episode, even though she might not have been on the set in Atlanta herself. Maybe in form of a Video phone call like they did in Episode 12 or 13? They could have done that in the Paramount Studio Lot. She could have been there for contract negotiations. Who knows.



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QUOTE (Ryhen @ 1 April 2018 - 04:54 PM)
you may be right about the hate she's getting from social media, the producers listens to feedbacks on social media and that may be the reason shes not part of the cast anymore, same thing that happens to the original pilot, all negative reactions that prompted the producers to scrap that.

I'm not sure social media has that much power when it comes to TV Shows. It's the Network that has the power (and maybe the Producers if they Play their cards right).

Meredith Eaton got a LOT of backlash, yet she's still on the Show. Executive Producer Peter Lenkov said himself he never follows negative social media comments and he's notorious for not listening to fans. There's a character on "Hawaii Five-0" that only gets hate and even the lead actor made it clear he doesn't see the point of bringing her character back again and again yet the writers and producers don't care.

Isabel got a lot of hate via the offical CBS social media pages but she's never been openly attacked personally on her Instagram account (of course, the haters are too much cowards to do that; the same with Meredith Eaton). Also, she's been in the modelling and movie business for a while so I doubt she would be so easily "scared" away.

Also, the scrapping of the original Pilot didn't have to do with Social Media backslash because the hate was towards the reboot itself and the casting of Lucas Till, not towards the Pilot (since no one ever got to see it). And clearly, the rebooted Pilot is based on the Original script and Lucas Till got to stay as well.



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QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 1 April 2018 - 08:48 AM)
QUOTE (Ryhen @ 1 April 2018 - 04:54 PM)
you may be right about the hate she's getting from social media, the producers listens to feedbacks on social media and that may be the reason shes not part of the cast anymore, same thing that happens to the original pilot, all negative reactions that prompted the producers to scrap that.

I'm not sure social media has that much power when it comes to TV Shows. It's the Network that has the power (and maybe the Producers if they Play their cards right).

Meredith Eaton got a LOT of backlash, yet she's still on the Show. Executive Producer Peter Lenkov said himself he never follows negative social media comments and he's notorious for not listening to fans. There's a character on "Hawaii Five-0" that only gets hate and even the lead actor made it clear he doesn't see the point of bringing her character back again and again yet the writers and producers don't care.

Isabel got a lot of hate via the offical CBS social media pages but she's never been openly attacked personally on her Instagram account (of course, the haters are too much cowards to do that; the same with Meredith Eaton). Also, she's been in the modelling and movie business for a while so I doubt she would be so easily "scared" away.

Also, the scrapping of the original Pilot didn't have to do with Social Media backslash because the hate was towards the reboot itself and the casting of Lucas Till, not towards the Pilot (since no one ever got to see it). And clearly, the rebooted Pilot is based on the Original script and Lucas Till got to stay as well.

Sometimes I honestly think Peter Lenkov goes against the grain with certain things. IF HE likes the character that is. He loves the person who plays Catherine on Hawaii Five-0, at least it would appear that way from his posts he has done with her when she was a recurring. That fandom has complained and complained about her but you are totally right, he doesn't acknowledge it. She is even returning for an episode this season. I don't know if he ever bought into Isabella Lucas actually. He never acknowledged her at least not more than a brief mentioning. He has always been a fan of Meredith Eaton, who I actually love, and I think CBS supports her. I don't think Isabella Lucas has the same pull. You have to think also the character of Matty did not have as much screen time as 'Cage' got right away. I have always thought they did her no justice introducing her the way they did, but at this point that is beating a dead horse. I think it would be possible to still use her character as a recurring. I don't like the character but I could see that others do and not every thing is going to suit every fan. I truly felt bad for the actress when people would bash her personally on the CBS sight. I think there were much kinder and more professional ways to point out the detracting side of the character that she was portraying.



 
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QUOTE (RidleyJ @ 2 April 2018 - 08:50 AM)
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QUOTE (Ryhen @ 1 April 2018 - 04:54 PM)
you may be right about the hate she's getting from social media, the producers listens to feedbacks on social media and that may be the reason shes not part of the cast anymore, same thing that happens to the original pilot, all negative reactions that prompted the producers to scrap that.

I'm not sure social media has that much power when it comes to TV Shows. It's the Network that has the power (and maybe the Producers if they Play their cards right).

Meredith Eaton got a LOT of backlash, yet she's still on the Show. Executive Producer Peter Lenkov said himself he never follows negative social media comments and he's notorious for not listening to fans. There's a character on "Hawaii Five-0" that only gets hate and even the lead actor made it clear he doesn't see the point of bringing her character back again and again yet the writers and producers don't care.

Isabel got a lot of hate via the offical CBS social media pages but she's never been openly attacked personally on her Instagram account (of course, the haters are too much cowards to do that; the same with Meredith Eaton). Also, she's been in the modelling and movie business for a while so I doubt she would be so easily "scared" away.

Also, the scrapping of the original Pilot didn't have to do with Social Media backslash because the hate was towards the reboot itself and the casting of Lucas Till, not towards the Pilot (since no one ever got to see it). And clearly, the rebooted Pilot is based on the Original script and Lucas Till got to stay as well.

Sometimes I honestly think Peter Lenkov goes against the grain with certain things. IF HE likes the character that is. He loves the person who plays Catherine on Hawaii Five-0, at least it would appear that way from his posts he has done with her when she was a recurring. That fandom has complained and complained about her but you are totally right, he doesn't acknowledge it. She is even returning for an episode this season. I don't know if he ever bought into Isabella Lucas actually. He never acknowledged her at least not more than a brief mentioning. He has always been a fan of Meredith Eaton, who I actually love, and I think CBS supports her. I don't think Isabella Lucas has the same pull. You have to think also the character of Matty did not have as much screen time as 'Cage' got right away. I have always thought they did her no justice introducing her the way they did, but at this point that is beating a dead horse. I think it would be possible to still use her character as a recurring. I don't like the character but I could see that others do and not every thing is going to suit every fan. I truly felt bad for the actress when people would bash her personally on the CBS sight. I think there were much kinder and more professional ways to point out the detracting side of the character that she was portraying.

So true! I hate it when I read comments where people say things like, "She's a horrible actress, kill her off, she's the worst thing about this show! She ruined it for me." I can't help but be like, "My gosh, is she really that bad? I think not!"

She might not be easily scared off, but I feel really bad for her nonetheless. Those comments sound painful. ohmy.gif



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Well, regardless, nobody should be that rude to anyone. I never understood why people feel the need to go out of their way to bash anyone on social media.... or in general, for that matter.

Sure, there are celebrities I don't like, but I simply just ignore them.



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QUOTE (Jediferret @ 2 April 2018 - 01:24 PM)
Well, regardless, nobody should be that rude to anyone. I never understood why people feel the need to go out of their way to bash anyone on social media.... or in general, for that matter.

Sure, there are celebrities I don't like, but I simply just ignore them.

Exactly! I never quite figured out if people just like being mean on purpose, or if those guys actually don't have the mental capacity to understand what they're doing. There's a real person behind every actor/actress, online commenter, etc.



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QUOTE (Jediferret @ 2 April 2018 - 10:24 AM)
Well, regardless, nobody should be that rude to anyone. I never understood why people feel the need to go out of their way to bash anyone on social media.... or in general, for that matter.

Sure, there are celebrities I don't like, but I simply just ignore them.

I know! I think about poor Lucas and the things people said about him and to him, and how he talked later about how it had taken a really big toll on him personally. Actor, celebrity or not, feelings should be considered. Sometimes I think people just like the rush of saying things they won't be held accountable for. I think in general people try to be very positive, but I also disagree when you aren't even able to say you don't agree with a character or a change in the show. Everyone here is usually very open to other opinions but I have been bashed on Twitter many times for just stating my opinion in a very kind manner. I'm a therapist, I would not hurt anyone on purpose, but I also think I have a take on what is happening on the show and how I see things, or the things I like to see. People on Twitter can be really mean. Especially some of the Hawaii Five O fandom. wink.gif I have just commented on something before and been jumped on by several of them.



 
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QUOTE (Jediferret @ 2 April 2018 - 10:24 AM)
Well, regardless, nobody should be that rude to anyone. I never understood why people feel the need to go out of their way to bash anyone on social media.... or in general, for that matter.

Sure, there are celebrities I don't like, but I simply just ignore them.

I know! I think about poor Lucas and the things people said about him and to him, and how he talked later about how it had taken a really big toll on him personally. Actor, celebrity or not, feelings should be considered. Sometimes I think people just like the rush of saying things they won't be held accountable for. I think in general people try to be very positive, but I also disagree when you aren't even able to say you don't agree with a character or a change in the show. Everyone here is usually very open to other opinions but I have been bashed on Twitter many times for just stating my opinion in a very kind manner. I'm a therapist, I would not hurt anyone on purpose, but I also think I have a take on what is happening on the show and how I see things, or the things I like to see. People on Twitter can be really mean. Especially some of the Hawaii Five O fandom. wink.gif I have just commented on something before and been jumped on by several of them.



 
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QUOTE (RidleyJ @ 2 April 2018 - 03:50 PM)
Sometimes I honestly think Peter Lenkov goes against the grain with certain things. IF HE likes the character that is. He loves the person who plays Catherine on Hawaii Five-0, at least it would appear that way from his posts he has done with her when she was a recurring. That fandom has complained and complained about her but you are totally right, he doesn't acknowledge it. She is even returning for an episode this season. I don't know if he ever bought into Isabella Lucas actually. He never acknowledged her at least not more than a brief mentioning.

That's what still puzzles me.

They kept pretty quiet about this new character and were actually successful in keeping the actress a secret until they wanted to reveal her.

Yet although Isabel was introduced as a new regular, she never got a picture on the website or a press relase - unlike Meredith Eaton. She was never treated as a "real" addition to the cast by CBS which made me believe her role must have been limited to the first half of the season like Sandrine Holt as Thornton - or they started cutting the character out of the following scripts / filmed episodes to reduce her screentime when they realized it wasn't working out the way they thought it would.

It was always the cast introducing her and praising her and stating in interviews about being excited getting a new cast member. I can't even remember if Lenkov ever mentioned her in of his posts - which is a bit weird. I've been wondering if CBS demanded to add another new female team member or had a say in her casting because Lenkov never seemed that enthusiastic about her as he was with other actors.




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I'm actually starting to feel really bad for Isabel at this point. Seriously, it was like she was set up to fail. I mean, I hope that isn't true... but that's what it sounds like.

As far as I'm concerned, it's nice to have differences of opinion on the reboot though. Keeps the rest of us on our toes. wink.gif



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QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 5 April 2018 - 12:26 PM)
QUOTE (RidleyJ @ 2 April 2018 - 03:50 PM)
Sometimes I honestly think Peter Lenkov goes against the grain with certain things. IF HE likes the character that is. He loves the person who plays Catherine on Hawaii Five-0, at least it would appear that way from his posts he has done with her when she was a recurring. That fandom has complained and complained about her but you are totally right, he doesn't acknowledge it. She is even returning for an episode this season. I don't know if he ever bought into Isabella Lucas actually. He never acknowledged her at least not more than a brief mentioning.

That's what still puzzles me.

They kept pretty quiet about this new character and were actually successful in keeping the actress a secret until they wanted to reveal her.

Yet although Isabel was introduced as a new regular, she never got a picture on the website or a press relase - unlike Meredith Eaton. She was never treated as a "real" addition to the cast by CBS which made me believe her role must have been limited to the first half of the season like Sandrine Holt as Thornton - or they started cutting the character out of the following scripts / filmed episodes to reduce her screentime when they realized it wasn't working out the way they thought it would.

It was always the cast introducing her and praising her and stating in interviews about being excited getting a new cast member. I can't even remember if Lenkov ever mentioned her in of his posts - which is a bit weird. I've been wondering if CBS demanded to add another new female team member or had a say in her casting because Lenkov never seemed that enthusiastic about her as he was with other actors.

You are so right! Why have a new character but not give her any kind of promotion? Look at how they promoted the two new characters on H50 this season. It was crazy. That was exceptional casting. I honestly don't ever remember Lenkov welcoming her or talking about her, which makes me think he either didn't have a say in hiring her or was not happy with the way the character went from the very beginning. But you are right in that her name is still on the regular casting. IT is so confusing. As you've pointed out before I think, that in the beginning there was supposedly two new regular characters and it seemed they attempted to combine them. At this point I"m not sure if just cutting their losses and forever leaving her in Australia is better or trying to tie it up further. I thought they might have Murdoc mention her mysterious origins in his last appearance but when he didn't I figured they might drop it or use it at a later point, or maybe they will tie it up in the season finale. I still am not sold on her being the right person for the part they seemed to want to create. The worst scene was when she attempted that interrogation/seduction scene in one of her first episodes. It was so painful to watch, and despite her being a good actress I think she was always unsure of what she was supposed to be doing. I honestly loved the last episode because it was more like season one with Bozer and Matty in the lab and mostly Mac and Jack in the field. I wish they would keep with that formula. Sigh.



 
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