Every week I will be posting a new topic titled "Episode Discussion". In this we will discuss an episode, what we liked about it, what we didn't like, etc.


Episode 85 – Legend of the Holy Rose (part 2)

MacGyver and Zoë’s search for the Holy Rose in England and France turns deadly when they cross paths with a notorious jewel magnate.

votes from May 2006
Poor [ 0 ] [0.00%]
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OK [ 0 ] [0.00%]
Good [ 1 ] [14.29%]
Excellent [ 6 ] [85.71%]
Total Votes: 7

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rockatteer Posted on Apr 17 2006, 03:53 PM

MacGyver Posted on Apr 17 2006, 06:34 PM

Sheepy Posted on Apr 17 2006, 08:56 PM

MacGyverGod Posted on Apr 18 2006, 01:15 AM

MacGirl Posted on May 4 2006, 08:25 AM

Now does somebody want to place a small wager that Dan Brown had been watching this episode when he wrote the DaVinci Code? Come on, the whole rose, mother goddess, evil scientist that looks like a friend thing, France, London... The list only gets longer from here.

"I don't think you OR my make-up is gonna last that long!"


And it just keeps getting better after that! Excellent ep!

Hey! I just read The Da Vinci Code, and I thought the same thing! Who knows?

Shannon: "I know what your doing... you know what? I think you're crazy!"

MacGyver: "Gimme a few hours... you'll know for sure!"

This ep (and the 2nd half) have some of the best lines!

"Myths and dreams come from the same place."

I think this is one of my favorite quotes. There was so much wisdom in this show, and that's one of the reasons I never tire of it.

watched this last night...

Zoe is still annoying!

MacGyver's escape has to be the worst piece of writing in the whole show. what absolute nonsense.

I have to say though that this second half had a bit more of the great adventure treasure hunt the writers where obviously after, but I still think it didn't quite achieve it.

I kind of got the feeling that this was really a single episode which had been dragged out to make it a 2 parter.. it seemed very slow and drawn out.

They could have left out the ridiculous rescue at the beginning, started the episode with Mac coming home and cut out a lot of the in between stuff which really didn't add anything but slowness to the story, and probably would have had a good treasure hunt episode, instead of the slow sometimes over the top 2 parter we ended up with.

Anyway.. for me part 2 is watchable.. but only just.. I'd much rather watch Treasure of Manco.

I watched this yesterday just to see what MacBeth meant with the geeky look and tie in this other thread

Well, I don't know why all you guys like those treasure hunting episodes so much. Must be a girl/boy thing. I understand that "Indiana Jones" was made with tongue in cheek, but the MacGyver episodes want to be taken seriously, and I just can't do that.

I think it looks pretty silly when Mac puts something in here and then turns something there, and suddenly some old apparature/mechanic starts moving. Either somebody would have found it years ago - I mean, if this old church was used as a museum, wouldn't they investigate everything about it? It also looked to me as if the plate was not really necessary to turn this stone. Anybody could have found these three whatstheirnames.

Or I wonder why the apparature is still working at all after thousands of years. Plus the treasures they DID find looked just cheap.

And did anybody hear something about light speed before? Why did it take so long for the laser to go from one lense to the next? Silly.

And of course in the end the old cliché that the whole thing has to tumble down and nothing is left - just like in the Quaterman movies.

Plus there are two very disgusting deaths in this one. At the beginning the shooting of one bad guy just from one meter's distance - and then the professor that was thrown out of the helicopter. Very cruel. Unneccessary cruel (for a family series).

Most fun I had watching the interaction between Mac and Zoe. She might seem annoying, but she only is passionate about her causes. That actually is not a bad thing. Maybe she talks a bit too much and too fast. I could actually see a lot of Daniel Jackson in her - and a lot of Jack O'Neill's in Mac's reactions, also. I like it when people annoy Mac. The beginning with him waking in the middle of the ocean was fun.

And Zoe can fight for herself and is not the girl that only depends on Mac. Love when she is throwing the breakfast out of the window.

The scene with Mac under the blade stands out as the most memorable thing. There is sheer terror in his eyes and the first time I was indeed fearing for his life.

The whole episode has a very British touch. The buildings and the accents added to that. I started to wonder whether this really was filmed in London like the movies. I doubt it for the costs, though.

This episode really reminds me of the Lost Treasure of Atlantis movie. I don't like it.

Your right Astra, the hidden locks and mechanical stuff did seem badly thought out and executed in this episode, or maybe just over used?

Anyway this is one of the episodes I prefer to skip.

If you want a good treasure hunt episode, go with Treasure on Manco.

I will say that RDA's acting when he's under the blade is excellent--I agree. I truly believe that he's scared to death! His reactions--facial expressions and his eyes--are expressive and accurate.

I voted average. I think the whole experience was too 'unreal', not so related to real life as the other episodes. There were some interesting scenes, though, like the scene when Mac found his houseboat floating at the centre of the sea. I love that!

Loved how MacGyver got out the knife of doom.

Maybe they where taunting him off screen.

Can just see the crew running around in a flap yelling "what do you mean it wont stop!!?? Someone get the electricians in here to switch the damn thing off before it cuts him in half!!"

LOL!

lol

I loved the cleaning woman screaming when he asked her for help. Cute episode. Could've done a little bit more with it. And for some reason I really liked that Zoe was able to help out.

This double episode in Italy, my Contry, has been unpublisched for many years!
I don't know why...
I saw it for the first time when this (double) episode was included in the dvd set of the fifth season!
Also the italian voice of Mac Gyver are different in this story.
Now, in Italy, you can see this episode in various tv channels but, before his publication on dvd, it was not really available.

I can't believe I saw Part 1 around six months ago but missed Part 2. Today I finally got to see it...and...a let down. Apart from Mac getting away from that swinging blade, and getting all sooty (causing butterflies to flutter in my tummy) and excited about that laser, which was piss poor special effects.

The bad guy getting blown up by the laser was pretty cool, though.

I prefered the first episode...loved when Zoe sent Mac's house into the ocean...I wonder if you could actually do that??? *heads off to the pier to untie someone's house boat*

Evening all,

Just watched the Legend of the Holy Rose episodes last night...
Be aware that spoilers ensue.

Now I wear pretty generous disbelief suspenders and have enjoyed every episode so far with the exception of the couple at the beginning of the first season where they borrowed a lot of footage from other films (having seen both the Italian Job and Funeral in Berlin, it Just Doesn't Work to pinch large chunks of them, it's nothing to do with Mac and the gang).

I also found a lot to enjoy about the first Holy Rose episode - casting Mac adrift was a highly entertaining prank worthy of Jack Dalton, for example. Zoe was, initially at least, another good foil for dragging Mac into situations he's going to regret. I like the bamboo-and-cement-mixer microlight too, and Mac with really long hair, doing exasperated so very well

The point at which my disbelief suspenders started twanging in earnest was when the words Holy and Grail were uttered. It's been done, guys.
And then there were the toe-curling London accents.
And the ease with which the Holy Rose puzzles were solved.
And the flip-top rock.
And the cheesy ruby laser effects.
And Zoe constantly going on about a Great New Perfect World (nothing wrong with the idea, it's the amount of repetition that does it).
And the gunpowder impregnated wall.
And the (presumably) similarly gunpowder impregnated bad guy.
And the finding of the holy gravy boat with it's load of magic powder paint...

No, as much as I wanted to like this one, it's a Poor from me.

This is one of my favourite episodes!
Why was Mac wearimg a tie? He hates wearing ties usually...

Sorry Aussie - no offence intended!

I don't know why he was wearing a tie either - I thought he lost all his MacGyver super powers if he put one on, a bit like Superman when the kryptonite comes out!

That's a really good question and he didn't even look uncomfortable with it on. At least in the earlier seasons he looked uncomfortable in the tie.

Yeah, I always wondered about the tie since the first time I saw the episode...

Oh, this episode is fun in its own way. I liked part 1 better then part 2. I LOVED the whole scene where Mac is falling asleep and Zoe sets his houseboat adrift. The music during that scene makes it seem like someone is about to do something insidious to poor, unexpecting Mac. Then of course the whole scene after that when Zoe shows up to talk him into helping her. XD Poor Mac indeed. The rest of the episode and part 2 I find kinda... boring, but I watch it anyway because of the nostalgia factor.

Ah... the memories. lol And I do like the scene where he had to escape the pendulum... cheesy, but it's still fun to watch. Poor Mac seemed so helpless when asking for help. Wonder how long he had to lay there.

The tie though? I never really though about it, except that I do agree he look uncomfortable wearing it. lol

I think the tie was a wink to Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Indy wears a tie on his Indy outfit while in Venice. But a red tie on a white shirt is just god-ugly. If had the green shirt on from Rush To Judgment it would've been alright.

I don't mind how it looked actually. But he does usually avoid ties.

Sorry Aussie - no offence intended!

I don't know why he was wearing a tie either - I thought he lost all his MacGyver super powers if he put one on, a bit like Superman when the kryptonite comes out!

That's ok, no offence taken.