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I think I figured it out. In the episode Friends we've seen the date on his resignation letter. It was March 23 1987, right? His father and grandmother died in that car accident on December 14 1962. In Passages he said that he hasn't seen his father since he was 10. So count 10 years backwards to the year he's born and we're in 1952. In Thin Ice he mentioned something about hockey of Turk Donner in 1960 then he said he was 8 years. Count backwards again and we end up in 1952 again. The story he tells us about the car accident in Runners doesn't match with what he tells in Passages. If he was 7 in 1962 he should've been born in 1955, about three years later. There's no way he could've been 39 in Lost Amadeus. It's more like 37 or 38 it depends if the episode is set before or after his next birthday, but absolutely not 39. So when he met Pete he should've been 27 or 28. But instead of blabbering his actual birthday is March 23 1952. I can't see no other way to it. With other words MacGyver is 2 years younger then Richard Dean Anderson. Rick is 54 now, Mac's 52 then. So next year Rick is celebrating his 55th birthday and Mac's 53th birthday.
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I like your back tracking theory. It makes sense.

I've always calculated his age this way:
In episode 101, "The Lost Amadeus" - Mac's age given as 39 - episode air date March 19, 1990. Therefore his next birthday on March 23rd would make him 40. This would make his birthday, March 23, 1950.

However, your theory would also make sense for 1952 as Jack O'Neill from Stargate according to the episode "Fragile Balance" was born in 1952.

I look forward to seeing if anyone can punch holes in your theory, because it does make sense to me. Good work! 
   
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Original post December 9 2004:

Apparently this wasn't such big news after all! I just figured something unimportant out his exact birthday with my waterproof theory. This means he celebrated his 35th birthday in the Friends episode and he was 33 with or in the Pilot episode, plus he is 2 years and two months younger than RDA.

 
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QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ Dec 8 2004, 11:05 AM)
Apparently this wasn't such big news after all! I just figured something unimportant out his exact birthday with my waterproof theory. This means he celebrated his 35th birthday in the Friends episode and he was 33 with or in the Pilot episode, plus he is 2 years and two months younger than RDA. 


Well on Friends episode his birthday is March 23rd. When Mac meets lulu on the lost Amadeus he says he is 39 the show aired march 19th so in 4 days he would turn 40 woo hoo! smile.gif On that episode when he was with lulu he was with her for 2 days. the 3rd day he was with wilt riding a bike and that's where wilt met lulu so the next day would be his birthday yay! smile.gif 
   
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Read my first message, Sonyab. There's no way he could've been 39 or become 40. Then he should've said I'll be 40 within the next few days. 
   
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QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ Dec 8 2004, 12:53 PM)
Read my first message, Sonyab. There's no way he could've been 39 or become 40. Then he should've said I'll be 40 within the next few days. 


I know I did read your first message but I wanted to share what I saw on tvtome hehehe.. cowboy1.jpg 
   
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Maybe he forgot Mac was supposed to be 2 years younger (or the writer did) and said his real age of 39 in that episode. 
 
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Could be. 
   
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Hey MG. I hate to do this to you. But I just took a look at the MacGyver bio page for this web site......

http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/c1.html

His birthay was there all the time.



   
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The March 23rd 50 or 51 birthdate is on a lot of websites, but it is just as much conjecture as anything else. Isn't it? Granted a logical and educated conclusion I have always subscribed to the March 23, 1950 one myself, but MG makes a lot of good points.

Correct me if I am wrong? 

 
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Orginal post December 11 2004:

I hate to do this to you too Rock, but it's incorrect, I'm certain of my theory. Watch Thin Ice and watch Passages, you'll notice it. In Thin Ice he mentions he was 8 years old when he talks about the trophy that Turk Donner got in 1960 and in Passages he says he hasn't seen his dad since he was 10. His father died in that car crash December 14 1962. 1962 - 10 = 1952 right? 1960 - 8 = 1952. I'm positive, I'm right. In Runners he said he was 7 since he had seen his dad but that wouldn't be right, because then he would born in 1955. It's March 23 1952, I'm a hundred procent sure of it. We're all certain about the date, right? March 23. About the year is something I'm certain of. Check it out. Watch Phoenix under Siege for the death of his father and grandmother December 14 1962. Watch Thin Ice when he says he was eight years old in 1960. Watch Runners for the wrong information and watch Passages when he says he hasn't seen his dad since he was 10. And as I said before; Mac was 33 in the first half of season 1 and celebrated his 35th birthday in the Friends episode. He was either 27 or 28 when he met Pete in 1980, it depends if they met before or after his birthday. So actually in Blood Brothers young Mac should've been about 11 during the gun incident, but he looks older. I'm certain of it March 23 1952!!!

 
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Hey MG. I hate to do this to you. But I just took a look at the MacGyver bio page for this web site......

http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/c1.html

His birthay was there all the time. 


Where did these dates come from, Rock? 
 
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Can anyone poke holes in this theory? It just makes so much sense.

If Mac were born in 1952:

1967 Mac had an accident that ruined his hope of going to the '68 Olympics in Hockey. ("Think Ice")

1970 He would have graduated high school about 1970.

1970-1973 He served in Vietnam - bomb disposal ("Countdown")

1972 Meets Kate Malloy in Vietnam ("Stringer") (SAM is 19 in 1992)

1973 Is in College and wins the Barricade contest ("Hell Week")

1974 - 1980
* MacGyver graduates with a "degree in Science" mentioning that he studied Physics because it interested him not to earn money ("Flame's End")
* Brief career as a racetrack driver that ended with a crash ("Collision Course")
* Mac worked at Western Tech ("Honset Abe")
* Worked at the Challenger Club full time ("The Challenge")

1980, March 2
Pete and Mac meet chasing Murdock in a Taxi ("Partners) NB This is different than the early episodes where Mac said he meet Pete while on a Camel in the sand.

If he were born in 1950 as I have always thought then he graduated about 1968 and probably went to college for two years before Vietnam or went to Vietnam earlier? 

Posted by: Teri Dec 11 2004, 06:08 AM
QUOTE (Vina @ Dec 10 2004, 11:48 AM)

Where did these dates come from?


Hi,

I don't know where he got the January 23rd date other than from RDA's birthday, but here is the source for the other dates:

Born March 23: #042 "Friends"

1950: #101 "The Lost Amadeus" - Mac's age given as 39 - episode air date was March 19, 1990. Therefore his next birthday on March 23rd would make him 40.

Hope that helps.

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Original post December 11 2004:

Hey, Teri these are good. It would be even more interesting if we decently develop a MacGyver-Timeline as a feature of some sort. Hey Rock aren't you interested in this? After all, these are big highlights in his life! Don't forget to mention that in

1962 Mac's dad and grandmother dies in car accident.

1963 MacGyver and his friends playing with dad's gun and the gun kills Jesse.

1986 Mac's mother dies while he is in Afghanistan (I suppose this happens during the To Be A Man episode) I always had this thing that it happened when he was in Alaska for Ghost Ship.

1990 Mac's grandfather dies of a heart attack.

1992 Mac quits the Phoenix Foundation

1994 Mac travels to London to help friends

1995 - 2004 ????

2005 ????

 
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Posted by: MacGyver Dec 11 2004, 07:37 AM
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It would be even more interesting if we decently develop a MacGyver-Timeline as a feature of some sort. 



To clarify even more, MacGyver's father and grandmother died on Decmember 14, 1962.

And yeah, I guess MacGyver's mother would have died during the "To Be A Man" episode. That sounds about right.

I assume MacGyver's grandmother that died in 1962 would be Cecilia, Harry Jackson's wife (as he mentioned her name in "Passages" and MacGyver's mom addressed Harry as "Dad".) So I wonder what happened to MacGyver's father's parents? Apparently they must have died some time ago too, as Pete notes that Harry was MacGyver's last living relative in "The Stringer", until, of course, SAM comes along.

Other important dates to pinpoint might be when MacGyver starts work with the DXS and when he and Pete move to the Phoenix Foundation. I'm also kind of curious as to when Pete's glaucoma actually started. I know they hinted at it in some episodes before "Blind Faith". Can someone remind me of which ones? (Maybe "High Control" or "There But For the Grace". I can't remember right now.)

And by the way, I'm still hoping 2005 is the year when MacGyver has that big final confrontation with Murdoc and reunites with Pete, SAM, Jack Dalton, Penny Parker, even Nikki Carpenter and The Coltons and has his biggest adventure captured on film and aired in theaters!!!!!   
(with everyone looking the same, but just a little older!)
 

Posted by: Teri Dec 11 2004, 09:02 AM
I have more I can add, I had developed one (joint with the character of Jack O'Neill for a fanfiction story I wrote) I could clean it up and let you all add to it and fix any mistakes if you are interested. 

Posted by: Teri Dec 11 2004, 09:05 AM
QUOTE (MacGyver @ Dec 10 2004, 01:37 PM)
And yeah, I guess MacGyver's mother would have died during the "To Be A Man" episode.  That sounds about right.




I was always under the impression that Mac's mother died before the series began. After all when he first saw Harry, didn't they comment that they were the only family each other had left? 

 
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Original post December 11 2004:

Pete's glaucome started in High Control and that's maybe the reason of his long abscence between Bitter Harvest and Eye of Osiris.
2005 is a good year to make a MacGyver movie. But I have my doubts that Nikki Carpenter would be in it or the Coltons would be in it and if so I think they should only take Billy Colton, because he's the youngest and still in good shape. A 150-minute MacGyver movie wouldn't be too bad, with lots of action and adventure. I always wondered how my story of Family in Agony would do in theaters. OK a new title is requiered which I already gave it. I'm going to rename it as "The Conspiracy" since the word is used much and that's what the plot actually is, and a new happy ending.
And what the timeline is concerned... it was meant for this site only, I guess, but since lots of info on this site comes from other sites too. I don't think I would mind, I agree if Teri agrees and if Rock agrees.

 
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Posted by: MacGyver Gal Dec 11 2004, 09:39 AM
QUOTE (Teri @ Dec 10 2004, 01:05 PM)
I was always under the impression that Mac's mother died before the series began. After all when he first saw Harry, didn't they comment that they were the only family each other had left? 


Yeah...me too.

I don't think they ever mentioned when she died. Mac said that he was in Afghanistan, but that could have been many years ago for all we know. 

Posted by: Vina Dec 12 2004, 06:43 AM
Yes, Mac's mother would have died before the series began. The Background Bible that was written probably between first and second season says he was only 19 when she died. This document, which I bought on eBay, surfaces every now and then.

I believe he did say in 1 or 2 episodes that he was in Afghanistan, but it would not have been the mission he was there for in To Be A Man. It would have been around 1971-72 when he would have been doing bomb disposal for the Army Special Forces according to the one MacGyver novel that was written.

And what is with the movie fantasies? Paramount has made it clear a long time ago that they would NOT use RDA--they want someone younger. Most likely NONE of the original cast would be in it.  In other words, it would suck big time! 

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Posted by: MacGyverGod Dec 12 2004, 08:28 AM
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In other words, it would suck big time! 



You wouldn't know that. I think they should at least use Dalton James to play Sam but then more as Sean Angus MacGyver and Bruce McGill as Jack Dalton. We'll see I guess. But if they're making movies of older tv-shows I'm sure Mac must be one of 'em. Plus I think there should be more MacGyver novels. 

Posted by: rockatteer Dec 12 2004, 09:09 PM
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It would be even more interesting if we decently develop a MacGyver-Timeline as a feature of some sort. Hey Rock aren't you interested in this? After all, these are big highlights in his life! Don't forget to mention that in



Yes MG there is a detailed timeline on its way.

I'm hoping to get it done over the Xmas break and it will be an intergrated feature of the MacGyver Online site.







Posted by: rockatteer Dec 12 2004, 09:16 PM
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Where did these dates come from, Rock?



I can't remember. I think they might be from the original MacGyver site. You know the old one which is closed down, but still online as an archive type thing.

So anyway....

Are we all in agreance that MGs dates are right? and the othe timeline information is correct?



Posted by: MacGyverGod Dec 12 2004, 11:49 PM
All in favor? Aye!!! Yay or nay? Yay!!! 

Posted by: Teri Dec 23 2004, 10:49 AM
QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ Dec 4 2004, 08:02 AM)
In Thin Ice he mentioned something about hockey of Turk Donner in 1960 then he said he was 8 years. Count backwards again and we end up in 1952 again. 


Hi,

I have been trying hard in my mind to disprove your theory (usually the best way to confirm a theory afterall).

I haven't been able to YET, but I did come-up with one possibility.

In "Thin Ice", Mac did say he was 8 during the 1968 Olympics when he watched Turk win his medal. Of course this is fictional because we assume the medal was for the US and in 1968 the Soviet Union took Gold, Czechoslovakia - Silver, Canada - Bronze.

Now assuming the Olympics in MacGyver's universe were held when they were in this universe the Olympics were held in Feb of 1960 before his March birthdate. So if Mac was 8 years old, he would have been born in 1951.

Now for me this is not enough to discount your theory (I still like it very much), but I would love to hear opinions.

Teri 

Posted by: MacGyverGod Dec 24 2004, 05:23 AM
Might. But I'm not certain until I've seen that episode myself. But that's indeed not enough to discount my theory. If it's true it's true but Mac is 52'er kinda guy not a 51'er and most of the odds are still against it, I guess. 

 
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I'm closing this topic and transferring discussion into our Timetable topic so we don't' get 2 topics running the same discussions.

So you can continue this discussion along with any other timeline stuff here


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