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Little is known about the international assassin Murdoc. He is, and has been, the best in his line of work; his methods are, in his own words, "quick, neat, untraceable." His mastery of makeup and costuming have made him difficult to identify, and he never leaves loose ends - except, of course, in the case of MacGyver and his friends.

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His character is the perfect combination of fiendishness, melodrama, and comedy. I voted excellent, of course. wink.gif

 
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Murdoc---inventive, sadistic, insane, musical and over the top theatrical, creepy, cross dressing, highly intelligent, yet prone to do very stupid things when overconfident to desparate (every time that he had been "killed"), antisocial, psychotic, angry, clever, at times funny-----Murdoc is MacGyver's archnemesis, the one name, the one voice that MacGyver dreads, someone who gets a kick out of messing with MacGyver's mind, he's not just a killer, he seeks out anything and anyone to get at Mac and that makes him different and a better villian than all the rest.

 
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Wow. Someone voted poor.

Someone hates Murdoc. unsure.gif


 
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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 11 January 2009 - 10:04 AM)
Wow. Someone voted poor.

Someone hates Murdoc. unsure.gif

And they didn't say why. You know the creepiest part about Murdoc and I didn't think about it before when I commented, but the creepiest part is that laugh---the one in Halloween Knights, before he says Happy Halloween MacGyver and the one in Obsessed--dang that gives me shivers.

 
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As a kid, I LOVED the Murdoc episodes, and I would have voted Excellent back then. These days, though, I'm a bit less impressed. I still like Murdoc, but there's something a bit TOO cartoonish about him. He's kind of like the Wyle E Coyote of the MacGyver universerse-- always coming up with overly elaborate plots to kill Mac, and always falling victim to his own traps in the end. It's hard to really see him as threatening or scary. I prefer Dr. Zito these days.



 
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QUOTE (Miasma @ 13 January 2009 - 05:50 AM)
As a kid, I LOVED the Murdoc episodes, and I would have voted Excellent back then. These days, though, I'm a bit less impressed. I still like Murdoc, but there's something a bit TOO cartoonish about him. He's kind of like the Wyle E Coyote of the MacGyver universerse-- always coming up with overly elaborate plots to kill Mac, and always falling victim to his own traps in the end. It's hard to really see him as threatening or scary. I prefer Dr. Zito these days.

yeah I would pretty much agree with that assessment.

I'm pretty sure Murdoc was never meant to be scary evil though.



 
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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 13 January 2009 - 09:58 AM)
QUOTE (Miasma @ 13 January 2009 - 05:50 AM)
As a kid, I LOVED the Murdoc episodes, and I would have voted Excellent back then.  These days, though, I'm a bit less impressed.  I still like Murdoc, but there's something a bit TOO cartoonish about him.  He's kind of like the Wyle E Coyote of the MacGyver universerse-- always coming up with overly elaborate plots to kill Mac, and always falling victim to his own traps in the end.  It's hard to really see him as threatening or scary.  I prefer Dr. Zito these days.

yeah I would pretty much agree with that assessment.

I'm pretty sure Murdoc was never meant to be scary evil though.

MacsChick and I are in agreement: Murdoc is a Goauld. How else is he coming back to life after stuff like that. Yeah he could have escaped the fireball in partner, but the fall from the Widowmaker, well how else do you explain it?

 
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QUOTE (Liz1976 @ 15 January 2009 - 12:40 AM)
but the fall from the Widowmaker, well how else do you explain it?

Isn't it obvious?

The hell bent preoccupation with killing MacGyver, the constant failing to do so; The inability to be killed off...

He's a terminator! laugh.gif Just look at his face in Widowmaker.


 
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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 15 January 2009 - 09:08 AM)
QUOTE (Liz1976 @ 15 January 2009 - 12:40 AM)
but the fall from the Widowmaker, well how else do you explain it?

Isn't it obvious?

The hell bent preoccupation with killing MacGyver, the constant failing to do so; The inability to be killed off...

He's a terminator! laugh.gif Just look at his face in Widowmaker.

roller.gif roller.gif roller.gif

 
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QUOTE (Liz1976 @ 14 January 2009 - 11:40 PM)
MacsChick and I are in agreement: Murdoc is a Goauld. How else is he coming back to life after stuff like that. Yeah he could have escaped the fireball in partner, but the fall from the Widowmaker, well how else do you explain it?

I agree, when I watch the Murdoc episodes, I keep waiting for his eyes to flash gold (Any wouldn't that be creepy!). And there are quite a few other MacGyver/Stargate fans that have explored this angle. There is one particular crossover fanfic (one of my favorites) that, while it hasn't gone into any detail yet, kind of explores why it is that Murdoc keeps 'coming back fromt he dead.'

I also agree that he was supposed to be more of a creepy evil then a scary evil, at least thats the way I saw it.


If you're interested the fanfic I was talking about is called the "Thicker than Water" series, and you can find it on a website called Eshers Jest, by author Maggie.

 
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Murdoc always gave me a serious case of the creeps. However, his character was balanced out with just enough humor to keep from being truly frightening.

I think the reason that he was always falling victim to his own plots was rather simple: he hated Mac (and Pete) so much that it screwed up his thinking.

Much as I liked Murdoc, I really would have liked for his character to have been fleshed out a bit more. For instance, I would love to have seen how he and Pete crossed paths in the first place, and why he took such a hatred to Pete, and later, to Mac. I also would love to have found out more about why he made the choices he did that led him to do what he was doing. (What on earth drives someone to choose to become a hit man??) And finally, I would have liked to have seen just a bit more of him: some foreshadowing, like a brief scene towards the end of an episode, a few episodes before he actually shows up as part of the main plot. A sort of, "Uh, oh, what's he doing now and when is he going to strike?" kind of thing.

In one of my fics (which I rather doubt I'll ever finish!) I give Murdoc some history. That was actually the relatively easy part of it. Guess I've been writing Murdoc's "backstory" in my head for years now...

 
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Murdoc is awesome. No denying that. He is creepy, inventive, musical, and has the awesomest ways to kill people. Oh and he has creepy realistic disguises (Watch "Partners") Yeah he is awesome. boxing.gif

 
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I can't stand Murdoc. He's so... irritating and, yeah, he's just a bad guy. very bad. I'm not very fond of episodes with him.

 
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QUOTE (Caroline @ 11 March 2009 - 07:47 AM)
I can't stand Murdoc. He's so... irritating and, yeah, he's just a bad guy. very bad. I'm not very fond of episodes with him.

Wow.

Thats a perspective we don't see much of around here. smile.gif

Who would your favorite bad guy be?






 
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hehe, I know that it's rare what I think about Murdoc but I hate him from first episode when he wanted to kill Mac & Pete. I prefer quite conventional bad guys. But on the other hands, no always too (vide goauld's)

Generally, Murdoc is irritating for me with his indestructibleness (I hope you know what I mean) Good 'bad guy' can't be immortal. It breaks fun!

Sure, episodes with him are good (but not excellent) and have lots of nice moments but aren't my favourite.

 
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WOW. That is interesting. I always thought his indestructiblility-whatever-you-call-it was pretty cool, because you have a reoccuring character who also "dies."

 
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I like Murdoc mainly I think because of the way he plays of Mac, the dialogue, the way he infuriates Mac especially in Halloween Nights and Strictly Business, is commical whilst deadly...interesting mix smile.gif

 
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QUOTE (aatgmac @ 12 March 2009 - 06:23 AM)
I like Murdoc mainly I think because of the way he plays of Mac, the dialogue, the way he infuriates Mac especially in Halloween Nights and Strictly Business, is commical whilst deadly...interesting mix smile.gif

Yeah, Murdoc is pretty cool that way. He bugs Mac with what he says. Really cool smile.gif.

 
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I like the character of Murdoc, especially in Halloween Knights. He shows to Mac and the audience that he does have a heart and a weakness for his sister (Ashton). I really don't like how he was forced to go back on his word to Mac when he tried to rejoin HIT.

I would love to see (if and when the movie comes out) some information about Murdoc's childhood. hmm.bmp

 
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QUOTE (SMeeceymouse @ 22 March 2009 - 05:21 AM)
I would love to see (if and when the movie comes out) some information about Murdoc's childhood. hmm.bmp

Yeah, they don't really tell us much about him. doh.gif hmm.bmp

 
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I know that he has a heart because he supports his sister Ashton, and when he goes back to HIT he tries to get out of killing Mac because he gave his word. But it just makes me wonder what his childhood was like. Just an idea. hmm.bmp

 
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I agree. I don't think that Murdoc had much of a childhood. I wonder too what the age differnce was between Murdoc and Ashton. I would be interested too to see Murdoc's file to check for any military experience and intelligence training.

 
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That's a great idea Liz. I know that Ashton was younger then Murdoc, and that he really loved her. But there is something there that just doesn't sit right. I guess I just want to see the good in the character. I mean there must have been something that caused him to go bad, but not all bad. sak.gif

 
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murdoc = always entertaining!!!!! he looks an interesting guy too.
used to creep me out all the time when i was little cos of his scary burnt face and evil laugh of his....lol

 
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he was one of thoses characters that put his all in every kill he did.

 
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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 11 January 2009 - 10:04 AM)
Wow. Someone voted poor.

Someone hates Murdoc. unsure.gif


I voted poor because ,yes, I dispise Murdoc. boxing.gif Why would anyone want to hurt Mac? MacG.gif

 
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Don't get me wrong here, I like how Murdoc is mischeif at times, it makes the show more action packed! matchs.JPG duct.gif "Where's that duct tape when you need it?!"

 
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I must say that Murdoc is the type of bad guy that you love to hate. He somewhat redeemed himself in Halloween Nights until he went back to "normal". He also showed he had a small heart in Strictly Business when he helped MacGyver get his memory back before he tried to kill him again. However he needed to re-think the duct tape comment. duct.gif

 
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QUOTE (macsgirl1 @ 6 May 2009 - 05:19 PM)
I voted poor because ,yes, I dispise Murdoc. boxing.gif Why would anyone want to hurt Mac? MacG.gif

Well in the beginning (Partners) Mac was in Murdoc's way--wrong place, wrong time, then 7 years later it was about revenge.

I think that in Widowmaker and Cleo Rocks it was about revenge with getting paid big bucks as a plus. In Cleo Rocks too, Murdoc was after Pete too.

Strictly Business was all about getting back his reputation and about money.

Obsessed---well, I think that Murdoc simply wanted to mess with Mac's mind, and his job, reputation and cause him great amounts of sleep deprivation before kiling him.

Question: In which episode do you think that Murdoc was at his most diabolical?

 
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