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QUOTE (macgybl @ 21 December 2009 - 12:16 PM)
According to the guy I got it from the jacket is about 20 years old.

It looks like Avirex made this style in the mid-late 80's/early 90's.

Yep, according to Wikipedia, the Avirex company was formed in 1975 for the purpose of producing the WW2 styled jackets and aviation related garments.

So the seller of your jacket could be quite right that it's a 20 year old jacket.

According to the Avirex web site the company has also been supplying combat aviation gear to the armed forces under a direct contract to the DoD. So it would seem these guys are the real deal.

Having said that. I haven't seen an Avirex jacket with a tartan lining yet, which makes me wonder if MacGyver's jacket was in fact an Avirex, or some other brand.


QUOTE (macgybl @ 21 December 2009 - 12:22 PM)
Found this sweater from Eddie Bauer

Reminds me of the one Mac wore in "The Survivors"

You mean this one?

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Posted: 21 December 2009 - 04:53 AM                                    
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Isn't there anybody we can ask who has to know witch brand is the jacket?
Maybe it was custom made just for the show, so we can then be sure we will never find the exact same jacket, and just settle for the closest we can find.

 
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What about these two? look good to me...

http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9097

http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9100


Here is an example that you must not clean your MacGyver jacket, and it will look great...do you think that this means that Cockpits jacket will look like Macs with lack of care?

http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9083

 
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http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9100


That second jacket looks pretty darn close, right color, warn look, everything except the tartan lining, even though they have got the name of it completley wrong. dry.gif

The first jacket hasn't got the weather flap under the zipper like the second one (and MacGyver's) has and the color looks a bit off.

Hmmm.. I'm thinking sportys might be a better link from our store than Flight Suits. The jacket looks more accurate to MacGyvers.


 
                                                                     
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Yep, Sporty's "B-2 Bomber Jacket" looks the closest to me (or Cockpits G-2 after 10 years of wear), the lining is not so important to me, if the lining was right then it would be the same jacket, witch I think we will never find.

 
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Yeah I've just changed the store link to point to sporty's although I did notice the color of the jackets in their product photos is darker than the jacket in the page photo, but it's still a closer than Flight Suits colors.


 
                                                                     
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That true Rock, but remember this

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This is little similar to MacGyver's brown jacket.
SchottA-2 hmm.bmp

 
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Found these boots

Called M-43 service shoes

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After seeing this photo of an Avirex G-2 on ebay, I'm 90% sure Mac's jacket was an avirex G-2.

Note the plaid lining.

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MacGyver wears brown leather jacket in superbowl in 2006.
Is it deferent from the one MacGyver wears in TV show?
It looks like normal A-2 flight jacket.

 
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QUOTE (macgybl @ 14 January 2010 - 02:15 PM)
After seeing this photo of an Avirex G-2 on ebay, I'm 90% sure Mac's jacket was an avirex G-2.

Note the plaid lining.

Ohhhhhhhh.

Yes the lining.

Did the listing have any information about the jacket? like year, specific styling or anything?

 
                                                                     
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Nothing on the year or style

Only thing I have is the attached

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The closest jacket I found (exept for the patch) that was not online is this one, and I bought it.
It will do until I order the Cockpit jacket.
What do you guys think?

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I have a old brown one same style with a map inside of it.

 
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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 2 November 2009 - 01:52 PM)
I'd love to know more about some of those "no collar" shirts he wore too. I always thought they were quite unique to MacGyver, because I've never seen anyone else wearing them.

Cool! I missed this thread during my hiatus. Just finished reading it.

That style of collar is called a band collar (not banded). It's distinct from the Mandarin collar -- the Mandarin collar has a higher stand, typically at least an inch, and is (obviously) inspired by traditional Chinese menswear. The Mandarin collar has rounded front edges, does not overlap, and does not usually button, although it may have frog closures.

The band collar is a Western style. Standard men's shirt collars have two pieces: the band, sometimes called the stand, and the fall. The band is the part that stands up next to the neck and buttons, and the fall is the part that folds over and has the collar points. In high-end tailoring, they are separate pattern pieces.

When you leave off the fall altogether, it's a band collar. In older traditional formal men's wear, all shirts have band collars, and the fall is a completely separate item that fastens on with studs. (Stop snickering. Those are little button oojahs, similar to cufflinks.) When you read 19th century literature and there's a mention of a man 'putting on a fresh collar', that's the garment he's changing.

Band collars overlap and button with a standard buttonhole and a single button that's often smaller than the other buttons on the shirt.

I quite like the band collar; it's a bit less formal, especially when left unbuttoned. The costumers on MacGyver tended to look for clothing combinations that had a certain element of style but were distinctly informal.

Also, on the buttoning: if the shirt overlaps right-over-left, it's a man's shirt. If it overlaps left-over-right, it's a woman's shirt, even if every other point of construction is identical.

 
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Also, on the buttoning: if the shirt overlaps right-over-left, it's a man's shirt. If it overlaps left-over-right, it's a woman's shirt, even if every other point of construction is identical.

Does that still apply today? I remember my mother telling me that years ago when I was a kid (probably about 8-9 years old).


 
                                                                     
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Yep. It's a universal truth:)

 
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As Mac J said, yes. It's held for a couple of centuries and isn't likely to fall out of use any time soon, until we somehow eliminate buttons.

Although plenty of women wear men's shirts, men try not to wear women's shirts, even if the only difference is the overlap. How's that for a double standard?

 
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Funny. I thought it was the other way around. Right over left for the women, left over right for the men.
And does that apply for buttons on the pants too, by the way?

 
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So all this time you've been wearing the wrong clothes Traveller?

 
                                                                     
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Yes, but without buttons.
Buttons are hochmut, remember?

 
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actually that was meant to say "the wrong clothes". blush.gif

 
                                                                     
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QUOTE (Traveller @ 18 January 2010 - 04:19 PM)
Yes, but without buttons.
Buttons are hochmut, remember?

Hee hee hee! You don't have anything against zippers, do you?

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I don't know if it is true, but the explaination I got (as a curious child) when I first asked about button-directions was that women's buttons were put on 'backwards' because long ago, women who could afford to buy clothing had ladies-in-waiting to help them get dressed, so the buttons were made to be easier for them to handle.

Seems to me to be a strange custom to still practice hmm.bmp

Probably an old wives' tale, anyway... biggrin.gif

 
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Yay, Loth! That's a classic line from 'Witness': 'Got anything against zippers?'

A pity they didn't put some Amish clothes on Mac. The pants a bit too short, the breeches, and the hat. Especially the hat. He would have looked great.. ahm, plain. A very special kind of plain, I might add.

 
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QUOTE (Traveller)
Funny. I thought it was the other way around. Right over left for the women, left over right for the men.
And does that apply for buttons on the pants too, by the way?

Ack, I wrote it backwards! Yes. Right over left for women, left over right for men. It applies to pants as well as shirts, and also applies to plackets even when the garment has another kind of fastener, including zippers, snaps, hooks, etc.
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I don't know if it is true, but the explaination I got (as a curious child) when I first asked about button-directions was that women's buttons were put on 'backwards' because long ago, women who could afford to buy clothing had ladies-in-waiting to help them get dressed, so the buttons were made to be easier for them to handle.

That's very close to accurate. Tailoring conventions are set by the wealthy and fashionable; wealthy ladies were dressed by their maids, while wealthy men dressed themselves, assisted by a valet. Also, fashionable women's clothes fastened in the back, while men's clothes fastened in the front. Combined with righthandedness being the majority, this led to the right/left differentiation that still applies today.

As to why it still applies: the basic construction of clothing is extremely conservative and resistant to change. Fashion makes superficial tweaks, but most of the basic garments we wear haven't changed fundamentally in centuries. The most recent major innovation was the change in the early 20th century from corsets to bras . . . which didn't affect Mac's wardrobe at all. (Murdoc, on the other hand . . . )

 
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I'm glad to hear they weren't lying to me all the time. biggrin.gif
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The most recent major innovation was the change in the early 20th century from corsets to bras . . . which didn't affect Mac's wardrobe at all. (Murdoc, on the other hand . . . )

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Well, now you've done it, Rocky . . .
I've been re-watching a lot of episodes as part of my exercise programme, and now this thread has me making detailed wardrobe notes of Mac's clothing. Sheesh. As if I wasn't already obsessed enough.

 
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How about this one: watching 'This is it' I saw Michael Jackson rehearsing in a black flight jacket. My first thought was: 'Hey, he's wearing MacGyver's jacket!'
Obsessed? Nooo.

 
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