Should the classic theme song return, And if so how should it be done?
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Posted: 21 April 2016 - 04:08 AM                                    
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I figure while we wait for more news on Macgyver we could discuss if the classic theme should come back and if so what should it sound like.

For me the answer is yes and while part of me want to go for a harder rock sound I am honestly thinking maybe more orchestral. (Think season 7's version)

However I would also be happy if they replaced the synth with a guitar (there are a few YouTube versions of the more rock and roll Macgyver theme any of them would describe what I am hoping for.)

 
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I think we are all routing for the same thing. As to whether we are gong to get it remains to be seen. Orchestral compositions with modern synths can still work quite nicely. They do for many movies and shows of today.

However the themes we associated with Mac will now be gone. Edelman & the gang will not return for this. So what we are going to be left with might be something new.

 
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I'd like the same basic theme for continuity but perhaps with some updates.

 
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An updated version of the original theme is probably what we're going to get in the end, a la Hawaii Five 0. Just a guess , of course.

 
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I think it needs to stay. Theme music is a BIG identifying part of a show. Updating it is fine, but it needs to still be identifiable.

My personal feeling is if they drop the theme music they've pretty much thrown the shows ancestry out the window and God only knows what we're going to end up with.


 
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The MacGyver title sequence will in no way resemble the 80s show. Just throwing that out there now. Don't expect it will, because it ain't going to happen.

I can only assume that CBS will follow the same formula as most of there shows. First off, they will keep the theme tune but highly modify it, in the same vein as Hawaii 5.O. The new theme tune will be reduced to 30seconds. The title sequence will be devoted mostly to the actors who feature in the series, with the actors' names very prominent. The rest of the sequence will be a mash up of disassembling and making things, in the style of CSI, mixed with a few action shots thrown in somewhere for good measure, (probably using a mix of transparency). This title sequence will start or end with the title of the show MacGyver, and finish with development credits for James Wan and Henry Wrinkler and a Creator credit for Lee Zlottoff.

Just putting this out there - so y'all can adjust to this before the pilot airs.

 
                                                                     
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Posted: 24 April 2016 - 10:39 AM                                    
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Don't you mean "if" it airs wink.gif tongue.gif

I personally would like the theme back, I missed it on the Mac movies they made. I don't expect it to be the same, but it needs to be kind of recognizable. For instance, I liked the new Knight Rider theme, and there really wasn't a lot of the original in it, but just a little nod was enough.

I think the Mac theme should be a bit more recognizable than that was, but I don't mind it being "modernized."

 
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Posted: 24 April 2016 - 11:31 AM                                    
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Nope MacsJeep,

I think we can safely say that this pilot will air.

It just a matter of time. CBS have invested too much time and effort into making this. It would be a travesty if they didn't air it now.

You don't put the invest - good cast & crew, great writing and directing, printed director chairs etc, if you think that by the end it will remain on the cutting room floor. No chance !

I also think that this has series commitment. Obviously they won't say that until seeing the first cut of the pilot. But based on reading the script I say CBS are quitely confident.


 
                                                                     
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QUOTE (RDoyletv @ 24 April 2016 - 09:31 PM)
But based on reading the script I say CBS are quitely confident.

You read the script? surprise.gif

 
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No, what I actually said was - based on CBS having read the script, I'm sure that they are quitely confident.

Sorry to disappoint.

 
                                                                     
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I wouldn't mind the old theme back or a variation of it.

But I don't think this will happen; I think they will go with something new...

 
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Well, I think that first & foremost it should compliment & match the energy/feel of the
intro clips selected. The original intro was visually, musically - a high energy/high anxiety
package, and we were handed the impression that things were going to be very high tempo
& tight time-wise in the hour ahead.

 
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QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 25 April 2016 - 10:34 AM)
I wouldn't mind the old theme back or a variation of it.

But I don't think this will happen; I think they will go with something new...

If history is anything to go by with other reboots and remakes, the theme will be a recognizable reincarnation.

Hawaii Five-0, Knight Rider, The A-Team, Mission Impossible, Get Smart all kept the theme in some form as a nod to the original.

Let's hope they do it with this as well.


 
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Depending on the talent behind the music... a modernized, or more "hardcore", version of the song can be possible. Though, I've heard several metal versions of it and it's still a very positive, upbeat theme.

Honestly, I'd like for the theme to remain, in at least some fashion.

 
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QUOTE (RDoyletv @ 25 April 2016 - 08:58 AM)
No, what I actually said was - based on CBS having read the script, I'm sure that they are quitely confident.

Sorry to disappoint.

Ummm... Nooooo.....what you actually said was....

QUOTE (RDoyletv)
I also think that this has series commitment. Obviously they won't say that until seeing the first cut of the pilot. But based on reading the script I say CBS are quitely confident.

May not have been how you meant to word it, but it is what you said. wink.gif kicking.gif


I think the 30 second idea is probably close to the money. Today's viewing audience doesn't have the attention span to watch a minute of opening credits. I wouldn't be surprised if the theme starts where we see the exploding title in the original, so it just kinda kicks in with high energy for the 30 second sequence.

 
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I refuse to get into an argument about this, kiwitech.

I know what I wrote, the sentence is perfectly valid as I was speaking from the point of view of CBS at the time.

Your just splitting hairs, and I have already apologised for you misunderstanding the context in which it was written.

The End.

 
                                                                     
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QUOTE (RDoyletv @ 25 April 2016 - 11:35 PM)
I refuse to get into an argument about this, kiwitech.

I know what I wrote, the sentence is perfectly valid as I was speaking from the point of view of CBS at the time.

Your just splitting hairs, and I have already apologised for you misunderstanding the context in which it was written.

The End.

I'm not arguing either... simply showing where DashboardOnFire's question came from and also that other's may have misinterpreted the sentence as well.

Hence my comment "May not have been how you meant to word it, but it is what you said." biggrin.gif


w00t.gif



 
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Posted: 25 April 2016 - 03:33 AM                                    
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Yeah, it should come back. Done by who? They may always call Randy or Dennis or Ken or William. Other than that I'm a little low on my knowledge of tv-composers. The one I respect the most now is Brian Tyler but I think he'll be far too busy. Alan Silvestri... perhaps if it was a movie and he's busy right now too for Zemeckis' new movie. Other than that... It'll probably be new blood.

 
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QUOTE (KiwiTek @ 25 April 2016 - 01:33 AM)
QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 25 April 2016 - 10:34 AM)
I wouldn't mind the old theme back or a variation of it.

But I don't think this will happen; I think they will go with something new...

If history is anything to go by with other reboots and remakes, the theme will be a recognizable reincarnation.

Hawaii Five-0, Knight Rider, The A-Team, Mission Impossible, Get Smart all kept the theme in some form as a nod to the original.

Let's hope they do it with this as well.

That's exactly what I think will happen with the new MacGyver series. the Macgyver theme song is very recognizable, and I'm sure they'll use it in some way or another.

 
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QUOTE (KiwiTek @ 25 April 2016 - 11:30 AM)
I think the 30 second idea is probably close to the money. Today's viewing audience doesn't have the attention span to watch a minute of opening credits. I wouldn't be surprised if the theme starts where we see the exploding title in the original, so it just kinda kicks in with high energy for the 30 second sequence.

I've also seen new TV Shows without any theme song music at all; e.g. "Saving Hope" - the logo with some tunes and then right into the opening credits.

This makes more time for the actual show, but I don't think this works for an action show like MacGyver.

 
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QUOTE (Mr Duct Tape @ 25 April 2016 - 02:52 PM)
That's exactly what I think will happen with the new MacGyver series. the Macgyver theme song is very recognizable, and I'm sure they'll use it in some way or another.

Hm. I gave it some more thought and I guess, after seeing the new logo being so similar to the old one, who knows.... they might do something similar with the theme song, after all.

 
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QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 26 April 2016 - 08:37 AM)
This makes more time for the actual show,

Don't you mean more time for commercials? laugh.gif


 
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QUOTE (KiwiTek @ 26 April 2016 - 06:10 AM)
Don't you mean more time for commercials? laugh.gif

Probably laugh.gif

The 45-50min-long TV-Shows in my childhood used to have one commercial break in the middle - so, e.g. in "MacGyver" they never fit in with the intended commercial breaks when filming.

I'm also curious about the music in the show itself. I know that modern TV-Shows don't have a score anymore, but a soundtrack of already existing radio songs... I hope that's won't be the case here.

 
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QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 26 April 2016 - 06:12 PM)
I'm also curious about the music in the show itself. I know that modern TV-Shows don't have a score anymore, but a soundtrack of already existing radio songs... I hope that's won't be the case here.

remember they're making this TV show for a modern audience, not us old farts who grew up on the real MacGyver. laugh.gif

Can't say I''ve taken much notice of soundtracks on any modern shows to be honest, but if it makes the show work then I'm OK with it.


 
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Coincidentally, a few years ago the TV series, Human Target featured an incredible soundtrack composed by Bear McCreary. It was like a Bond soundtrack. Very very suave. The first season was a superb start to the show and reminded me of Mission Impossible meets MacGyver. With opening gambits.

And then they messed it up with season 2. Change of composer, theme music, pace and story and it got cancelled.

If you ever get a chance watch the first season and you will see what i mean.

Point is, if they wanted to, they could get someone like McCreary to compose a score for MacGyver and it would be phenomenal.

 
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QUOTE (denizen @ 26 April 2016 - 03:08 AM)
Coincidentally, a few years ago the TV series, Human Target featured an incredible soundtrack composed by Bear McCreary. It was like a Bond soundtrack. Very very suave. The first season was a superb start to the show and reminded me of Mission Impossible meets MacGyver. With opening gambits.

And then they messed it up with season 2. Change of composer, theme music, pace and story and it got cancelled.

If you ever get a chance watch the first season and you will see what i mean.

Point is, if they wanted to, they could get someone like McCreary to compose a score for MacGyver and it would be phenomenal.

I agree ten fold.

With Peter at the helm I can gaurentee the theme will be used and brought back as he did the same thing with 5.0

 
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Bear McCreary's work on Outlander is really good. He makes the series even better with his music,love those scottish tunes.

 
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I urge you to watch the old opening title sequence to H.50, and then watch the new version. Peter has lovely subtle nods to the past in the updated title sequence. It was very refreshing to see. And the shortened version has all the necessary components that the original had.

I reckon he will do the same thing with MacGyver, the theme will be updated but recognisable and including lovely nods to the past. I'm guessing already but Mac hands over his Passport, abseiling down cliff, "Mac eating an Ice Cream", and "Him out of breath" spring to mind as possible nods to the past.

Either way, the 1minute 12 second opening title sequence will be dramatically reduced to a 30sec version, mainly comprising of the featured cast. That is guaranteed !

 
                                                                     
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QUOTE (RDoyletv @ 17 June 2016 - 02:45 PM)
I'm guessing already but Mac hands over his Passport, abseiling down cliff, "Mac eating an Ice Cream", and "Him out of breath" spring to mind as possible nods to the past.

I'm sorry to barge in, but is "abseiling" a proper English term? Because it's "abseilen" in German and I'm pretty befuddled right now *lol*


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You better believe it is - Dash !

Why? What does "abseilen" mean in German ?



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