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Yes, "abseilen" in German means "to abseil" in English - and the dictionary even states it's German origin. I never knew that; I only know some wide-known terms like "Kindergarten" or "Zeitgeist".

Well, the German language steals so many English terms it's only fair it also goes in the other direction every now and then... biggrin.gif

 
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It is an extremely sad day... When someone posts something like this... about MACGYVER.

I'm so glad CBS, are doing something about it.

MacGyver deserves to live on!

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I'd love it if the Randy Edelman theme returned, which is a sentiment I'm sure most people here share. But I don't want there to be some major change in the tune(think the Ghostbusters theme in the 90s Extreme Ghostbusters cartoon or the Fuller House theme where the lyrics are the same but there's an obvious difference in the structure of the melody). If you hum it, it should sound exactly like you're humming the 80s theme. Do it with modern synthesizers, so it sounds up to date but also still has a bit of a retro, technical sound to it.

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Me thinks.... that the most recent (13 second) promo, features the new theme music for the series (albeit in a shortened version).

I must say it's growing on me.




 
                                                                     
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Speaking of the intro theme, I'll be stemming a bit into a kinda related topic---and it's about the intro, like...how an episode starts.

I think we will eventually get to hear the theme again, be it for opening credits or ending credits. But I can't help but wonder if the very intro for the show is like the Flash's or Arrow's intro....yknow, with the lead character doing a little voice over about himself and what the show's about smile.gif I recently watched an episode of Scorpion, too and I saw the same kind of intro voice over. Given that it's a CBS show too, and on the net there are a lot of people that compare it to MacGyver for some reason, do you guys think they might go down this path too with MacGyver?

If they do this, they probably won't have time for opening credits anymore, so they might just put the theme on the ending credits. But the idea of the voiceover intro interests me, because MacGyver was known for voiceovers in the first few seasons, right? It would kinda be like a modern nod to the old show. I just hope that if they do that, they still have time for the opening intro. But I doubt that they will if they do this.

 
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I can see your logic, and you make a very interesting case for this.

But my guess is that they won't steer too much from the original - I'm basing this on how Peter Lenkov went about reviving H.50.

Plus, the original opening said it all. It showcased the character and his ingenuity perfectly. It will of course be modernized and updated (and cutdown to 30sec) but it will encapsulate everything that was great about the original title sequence.

I've studied the old and new H.50 title sequence and the similarity and differences have been very impressive, and how Peter Lenkov stayed true to the original. It's worth doing yourself on YouTube.

I have my own theories as to how they'll go about the new MacGyver theme, and how they might adapt it to fit a similar path. But hope to be pleasantly surprised when the show airs in September.






 
                                                                     
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QUOTE (RDoyletv @ 28 June 2016 - 09:38 PM)
But my guess is that they won't steer too much from the original - I'm basing this on how Peter Lenkov went about reviving H.50.

I agree.

For a while, I had serious doubts that they'd bring back the familiar opening, but after I FINALY watched the opening of the new Hawaii 5-0 recently, I now think we'll almost definitely be getting an updated version of the classic opening. I'm just a bit nervous about HOW they'll update the sound of it. I don't want it to be too techno, or too hard-rock, or anything else that will make it seem like they're trying too hard to be hip & trendy. Stuff like that gets outdated very quickly. But again, the updated Hawaii 5-0 theme gives me hope that they'll do it right.


 
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I'm guessing Peter Lenkov would never let them make the new MacGyver theme too modernized. He may have learned from the past already. I read somewhere online a few years back that there was a version of the Hawaii Five-0 reboot theme that was supposed to be the one to use but then there was fan backlash and then they changed it and just updated the theme not steering too far away from the original. I recently did a little research again about the Hawaii Five-0 reboot because of it having Peter Lenkov too, so I recently heard the version that received backlash.

Here's the one that received backlash, in case you guys haven't heard of this verson yet.
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Also, here's a short clip about how they rebooted the theme they did eventually use. I guess the process will be the same for MacGyver.

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If Ghostbusters is any indication, then a resounding YES! surprise.gif doh.gif

 
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I guess we can hear the new Theme-Song in this BtS-Video:


 
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QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 12 September 2016 - 09:16 PM)
I guess we can hear the new Theme-Song in this BtS-Video:



That's not something produced for the reboot. In fact, it's probably as old as the internet. I'm not sure where it originated, maybe some CD compilation of TV show themes, or it could have been fan-made.

 
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If that's true, it makes no sense that they posted it on the official MacGyver-on-CBS-Facebook-Account doh.gif

Guess that's why they deleted it - violation of copyrights? *lol*

 
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Possibly, though I don't know whose copyrights it could possibly be. Like I said, it's just one of those theme remakes you can find here and all over the internet that have been around for years and years.


 
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QUOTE (RDoyletv @ 17 June 2016 - 04:45 AM)
I urge you to watch the old opening title sequence to H.50, and then watch the new version. Peter has lovely subtle nods to the past in the updated title sequence. It was very refreshing to see. And the shortened version has all the necessary components that the original had.

I reckon he will do the same thing with MacGyver, the theme will be updated but recognisable and including lovely nods to the past. I'm guessing already but Mac hands over his Passport, abseiling down cliff, "Mac eating an Ice Cream", and "Him out of breath" spring to mind as possible nods to the past.

Either way, the 1minute 12 second opening title sequence will be dramatically reduced to a 30sec version, mainly comprising of the featured cast. That is guaranteed !

I like to think of it as a compilation of ways in which scheming/homicidal writers were trying to kill off RDA and/or stunt double. Plus the bit with the ice cream.

 
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QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 17 June 2016 - 09:09 AM)
QUOTE (RDoyletv @ 17 June 2016 - 02:45 PM)
I'm guessing already but Mac hands over his Passport, abseiling down cliff, "Mac eating an Ice Cream", and "Him out of breath" spring to mind as possible nods to the past.

I'm sorry to barge in, but is "abseiling" a proper English term? Because it's "abseilen" in German and I'm pretty befuddled right now *lol*

I'm pretty sure I once abseiled - okay, it was in Wales, but the instructor was speaking English to us.

 
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Peter Lenkov posted a short video with sound of the orchestra playing the new theme song:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKe9jUTAnqO/?taken-by=plenkov

 
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It sounds like the song that CBS posted on FB, deleted and reuploaded on the same day:


 
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Anyone else here think they messed the theme up? Why can't the theme be given the same level of respect as the H50 theme? This is actually a big letdown for me the whole time I waited and followed news for the reboot. Mostly, I was all for the decisions but I can't say the same for going with a new theme. I hope it will sound more like the original in the legit episode. I hate it, I just hate it. It made me less excited.

But, analyzing the theme technically, it seems to have backing harmonies similar to that of the original...not that evident in the original theme except for the first few seconds, but more so in the show's soundtrack especially in the first season whenever Mac would start to think and tinker. It's nice as a piece itself, I guess, but it's not a piece I would like to hear as the main theme music for a show that already has an iconic theme. Besides, the classic theme is much more energetic and one could even say that it really captures what and who MacGyver is. It was unique.

I have friends whom I have been recommending this show to. I'm too disappointed to know that they won't enjoy the reboot now as much as I enjoyed the original, knowing that they won't feel the same vibe of excitement I felt for the old theme...and probably they wouldn't even know what they're missing. I really hope that in the end, it will sound more like the old theme. I'm sure a lot of you here are waiting and still hoping for the return of *cue explotion, titles, and music* "DA DA DA DA DA DA DA DA DAAAAAA! DA DA DAAAAA!" biggrin.gif I'd already be happy if they leave that in, actually. It's better than having a theme with no similarities at all to the original one.

 
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I love the new theme! Orchestras definitely beat synthesizers in terms of emotional impact.
I have to admit, the nostalgic side of me had hoped that they'd bring back the original, but this sounds great, so I have no complaints. Very cinematic and grand.

 
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It sounds meh to me. biggrin.gif At least it aint a hip hop theme laugh.gif

 
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It doesn't affect me in the same way as the original theme, but I can accept this. Initially, I had expected the worst, so it actually makes me almost happy.

Most modern TV show don't even have a theme or scores anymore; they just use some songs that are playing on the radio at the moment. So CBS allowing to use an actual orchestra to play the theme and score the episodes is great!

Other changes in the reboot (e.g. using the name of Jack Dalton for a total new character) are much more difficult for me than this take on the theme.

 
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QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 19 September 2016 - 05:19 PM)
It doesn't affect me in the same way as the original theme, but I can accept this. Initially, I had expected the worst, so it actually makes me almost happy.

Yeah, it's definitely a different feel. The original had a feeling of "Yay! We're going on an adventure!"-- very upbeat, feel-good music. This new theme goes for more of a dramatic feel, I think, and feels larger in scale. So it makes me wonder if the show itself will be more large scale and dramatic than the original. If so, it makes sense that they changed the theme. Maybe the original theme just didn't fit the tone of the new show?

Anyway, after all the promos, I was starting to worry that the new theme song might be hip-hop music, so I am very relieved that they went with a cinematic orchestral score instead.

 
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QUOTE (Miasma @ 19 September 2016 - 02:12 PM)
after all the promos, I was starting to worry that the new theme song might be hip-hop music

me too *lol*

They do promote it as the new "drama" on CBS, so I guess it fits? To me, MacGyver was always an "action" show (even though it turned more drama in later season)... But I don't know much about TV shows labels in the US...

 
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I didn't watch the whole video that had the new theme, so sorry for misunderstanding. I heard the cover of the original theme at the start and figured that was the background music for the whole video. I guess I should have watched the whole thing.

Anyway, the new theme is alright, but bear in mind, they have said that they are using part of the original theme in the new theme, so they're probably saving the full theme reveal for the premiere.

Edit: Wow. I can't believe that's actually part of the real theme. They used what appears to be a piece of a cheap knockoff version of the theme found on the internet rather than one of the official versions.

 
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In this Interview (done before the panel to the Television Critics Association in Summer), Lenkov and Wan also talk about the theme: http://www.slashfilm.com/macgyver-producer...n-peter-lenkov/

I guess we should be happy we got any theme-opening-credits-combo at all!

Are you able to use the theme song in an age where theyíve cut theme songs out of shows entirely?
Lenkov: One of the big things in television these days is thereís no main title sequence anymore. One of the things that I was really adamant about doing the show, and they signed off on it, was doing a main title sequence and actually having a theme song. Incorporate some of the original theme from the original show and a little bit of a new theme. So itís a combination of the two but I didnít want to do the show without a main title sequence. I feel like this show needs that. Very much like that original show.

On Hawaii Five-0 you got the theme song down to 30 seconds. Similar thing for MacGyver?
Lenkov: I think right now itís 21 seconds. It keeps getting shorter every time we do a redo, but Iíll tell you one thing. Thatís a big battle to win, to be able to do a main title sequence and a theme song these days. Thatís not something network television does anymore.
Wan: Because it eats up ad space?
Lenkov: Yeah and they feel like maybe itís a little retro but I like that.
Wan: It sets the tone.

 
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They changed the opening seconds, thank God. It sounds so much better.

 
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Well, they used the same theme song, but changed instrumentation and shortened it.

 
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It sounds like it was mainly the original theme portion that changed. Before, it was a temp track which they must have found on the internet, but on the actual show, it sounds like they performed that portion themselves.

 
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Posted: 28 September 2016 - 01:33 PM                                    
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Posted: 28 September 2016 - 07:58 PM                                    
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A rather bland one too. biggrin.gif

 
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