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Posted: 28 June 2016 - 06:51 AM                                    
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QUOTE (RDoyletv @ 29 June 2016 - 12:22 AM)
QUOTE (KiwiTek @ 28 June 2016 - 11:57 PM)
No we should not except whatever is handed to us...

My point is - this is a new show. They must do things differently, to improve, create and provide longevity for this new series.

To achieve this goal - aspects of the show, in terms of style, pace, direction will be quite different than the original show of the 80s.

The show may have more adult themes, be more violent, be sex'ed up etc. All these elements are present in modern day tv shows. CBS can't ignore that. This model is what sell, and helps gain and attracts audiences.

But focusing on luxury cars and sex appeal is not remotely new or interesting. It's a predictable easy route that's been used for decades (Charlie's Angels, anyone?) As for it being a more "adult" route, I disagree with that. I'd say that sort of emphasis aims it squarely at 15 year old boys. Of course, that may be who the showrunners want to target, in which case, fine , they can have the 15 year olds, and I'll stick with shows like Homeland, that are more geared towards adults.

 
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Luxury Car, Sexy girls in bikinis, guns, sex, rock n' roll - who gets bored with these things. If it works it, it works. No one said this show was going to reinvent the action adventure genre. You go to the cinema - to see a chick flick, you know what you are going to get. The story changes but the ingredients are the same. You don't change what clearly works. Same with the action adventure genre - the format never changes. Believe it or not, audiences like and prefer the familiar be that on TV or Film. They like to know what it is they expect to see. Watch Lenkov's interview about reviving MacGyver again. He makes excellent points about audience expectation.

This series is being created to replace the void left behind by CSI.

It must appeal to this diverse and broad audience.

80s MacGyver was aimed at the A-team/knight rider audience. Mostly children.

CSI was not a children's program. But I know children who watched and loved CSI and now want to take up Forensic Science.

CSI had adult themes / H.50 had adult themes, and both could be classed as family viewing.

MacGyver will be (I hope) placed in a similar genre.

Ask yourself why James Wann would be involved if this wasn't the case? You don't honestly think he wants to create a kids program - something that's for sesame street kids (I exaggerate), but I think my point is clear.

This new MacGyver series should be on par and live along side 24, Homeland, CSI, and H.50 for broad mass appeal.

 
                                                                     
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QUOTE (RDoyletv @ 29 June 2016 - 04:35 AM)
This new MacGyver series should be on par and live along side 24, Homeland, CSI, and H.50 for mass broad appeal.

I agree that it would be great if it was along the lines of Homeland and 24. And neither of those shows relies on sex appeal or flashy cars. (I don't watch CSI or Hawaii 5-0, so I can't comment on those.)
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It beggars belief, why some of you wish this show to remain stuck in the past, with old ideologies. I genuinely can't understand it!

I don't think anyone is saying it shouldn't evolve. We're just saying sex appeal and flashy cars isn't the route they should take for this show. There are plenty of modern shows that don't take that route (as mentioned above, Homeland and 24 are two of them. The Walking Dead, perhaps the most successful cable tv show ever, doesn't rely on those things either. Nor did Breaking Bad, another hugely successful show.) I think none of us wants MacGyver turning into Baywatch.

Of course, as I mentioned before, we can't really know anything based purely on the casting call. It's possible that we're debating over something that isn't going to happen at all.

 
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Agree Miasma,

Of course, I don't wish MacGyver down the Baywatch route.

But Everything in moderation.



 
                                                                     
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I am genuinely curious about the target demographic of this show.

As you pointed out, the original series was, primarily, aimed at a fairly young audience (maybe ages 9-17?) And as you also mentioned, this show is filling in a gap left by CSI, so it would seem that this should be aimed at a slightly older audience. But, on the other hand, they decided to make MacGyver himself younger in this show than he was in the original series. I can't see too many adults caring much about a show in which the protagonist looks so much like a kid (even if the showrunners wanted to make Mac young, there are plenty of 20-something guys who look a lot more mature than Lucas does, so it seems they deliberately decided to go for someone that kids could easily relate to.) You and I both said we'd like to see this show be on par with shows like Homeland and 24, but I'm not sure they would cast Lucas Till for that kind of show.

The more I think about it, I'd actually be very happy if this show was on par with Prison Break. That show never got as serious as something like Homeland, and to me, it kind of felt like what a modern version of MacGyver should feel like.

 
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so... they're just recycling the old stuff? at least, they save some money *lol* whistle.gif

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Miasma,

You are correct - CBS wanted to have an early twenty-something protagonist initially. I reckon they underestimated the direction of the show and the huge demographic of fans who loved the original and realised very quickly their error - that they went too young with character, and was making the wrong type of show.

When Lenkov came on board, a fan of the original show - he reconstructed the character to be more of an adult - "like his Dad was from the original". So Lucas Till will now be in playing the role in his late 20s rather than his early 20s.

The conceptual stage is all about trial and error - tweaking, testing and amending stories and storylines - to guide the project down the correct path.

 
                                                                     
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A picture just in from Peter Lenkov.

Does this remind anyone else of the observatory (from the original first ep?). It was the first thing I noticed on viewing this image.

If it was meant to signify that - it was a beautiful Easter egg moment!

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Peter Lenkov has just retweeted a tweet by Justin Hires.

Did it air on TV? Did anyone spot it? Will someone please post it here, if it isn't the same as the 13sec one, currently on doing the rounds on social media. The one on TV could potential be a longer version. Either way, it would be nice to see what CBS are putting out there!

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QUOTE (RDoyletv @ 1 July 2016 - 07:13 AM)
A picture just in from Peter Lenkov.

Does this remind anyone else of the observatory (from the original first ep?). It was the first thing I noticed on viewing this image.

If it was meant to signify that - it was a nice Easter egg moment!

It is the observatory from the pilot episode. It's the Griffith Observatory. It's been used in a lot of shows and movies over the years.

 
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Thanks for clarifying that, Kiwitek.

It is interesting that Peter Lenkov posts this picture, and they begin filming today?

Does this mean that this will be MacGyver's Home in the new series?

If so, they are going back to the source and keeping faithful to the original from the get-go?

It would also be interesting if they do an homage to the original first episode, where they update the story and bring it right up to date. Similar to how they treated, and respected the Star Wars world and franchise in Star Wars Ep 7.

 
                                                                     
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QUOTE (KiwiTek @ 28 June 2016 - 04:06 AM)
QUOTE (RDoyletv @ 28 June 2016 - 09:49 AM)
Luxury Cars, Bikini clad women and new MacGyverisms

Ticking all the boxes from a Male perspective.👍

Females get Lucas Till, George Eads, and Justin Hires, to drool over. Lol 😉

Not really the same thing though is it unless they are going to be running around with no shirt on...

If it's just a one-off for an episode, it's fine, like a pool party or something, no problem, but I don't want to see a more adult version of MacGyver. One of the big draw cards of the original was that it was family orientated and made science cool for kids. That's an important factor for me liking this new show. If they try to sex it up like so many other shows on TV, these days I'm out.

MacGyver's original draw card was its uniqueness and for me, that needs to remain.

I agree, KiwiTek.

The show must be family orientated; that is the manner by which the original show was in those days.

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I hope they do gear this program more to adults. And sex it up!


If I am not mistaken, the show is mainly targeted towards the Youth. So sexing it up will most presumably get it many negative ratings and bad reviews.

 
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QUOTE (Macgyver1985 @ 2 July 2016 - 03:30 AM)
If I am not mistaken, the show is mainly targeted towards the Youth. So sexing it up will most presumably get it many negative ratings and bad reviews.

We don't know for sure who the target demographic is (though, judging by the fact that Lucas Till is quite young and young-looking, I'm guessing they're aiming relatively young.) But either way, I agree that "sexing it up" would be a mistake. Look what happened with "The Muppets." They tried to make it edgier, and they ended up alienating the old fans and getting cancelled after one season. Shows do need to evolve, but they need to so in a way that makes sense to the source material, and in a way that attracts new viewers without driving away the original fans. MacGyver was never a sexy show, and it doesn't make sense to take it in that direction now. If they want to make a sexy reboot of an old show, they should go after something like Charlie's Angels or Baywatch. Those shows had some element of sexiness in them in the first place, and it would be logical to expand on that for a reboot. With MacGyver, though, it would just be random and out of place.

 
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Here is an article about production on MacGyver in Atlanta. Enjoy!

http://radiotvtalk.blog.ajc.com/2016/07/01...val-to-atlanta/

 
                                                                     
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"The original series aired from 1985 to 1992 on ABC and starred Richard Dean Anderson as the resourceful federal agent who had a knack using ordinary objects to solve serious problems." from the above mentioned article...

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wait, how long have they had to research this? Irritates me to read such a fundamental mistake... Makes me wonder about what else they are mistaken about...

 
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That article wasn't written by the makers of MacGyver or by CBS.

So I wouldn't read much into it. The writer probably never watched an episode and was told to write this copy.




 
                                                                     
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QUOTE (RDoyletv @ 2 July 2016 - 10:15 AM)
That article wasn't written by the makers of MacGyver or by CBS.

So I wouldn't read much into it. The writer probably never watched an episode and was told to write this copy.

Yeah, I know, it just irritates me to see such sloppiness in journalism. doh.gif At least I know the folks working on the reboot won't be as careless. smile.gif

 
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There were some camera Tests today according to https://www.facebook.com/russell.snipes.3

He also said in the comment section: "they said if I'm cast then I'll be full time every week day till December so that would make me 100% on the move..."

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For all of you who can't get enough of DashboardOnFire's breaking news, I've invited her to be a special contributor to my blog where she will post occasional updates and where you can get all her info condensed into a blog post. Here's her first one:

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Not trying to steal her away from here -- I'm sure this will remain her first outlet of breaking news!

 
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Not sure about what a guy with Matt's Job description does; but it sure sounds interesting.

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QUOTE (themacgyverproject @ 2 July 2016 - 02:02 AM)
Not trying to steal her away from here -- I'm sure this will remain her first outlet of breaking news!

No one needs to worry; I will stay here for sure happy.gif

 
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what's ATFF mean?


 
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Similar to a Vision Technician (being a window cleaner).

ATFF is probably a fancy name for a Stunt co-ordinator.


 
                                                                     
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QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 2 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)
Not sure about what a guy with Matt's Job description does; but it sure sounds interesting.

via https://www.facebook.com/mwclanton?fref=nf

Nice to see that they're "going for the same tone"!

 
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QUOTE (KiwiTek @ 2 July 2016 - 03:46 PM)
what's ATFF mean?

ATFF = "Act Tactical For Film." Basically, a training method for getting a bunch of actors to look as if they know how to use firearms, military procedures, etc.

 
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I checked out his Website at www.atff.info

ATFF stands for "Act Tactical For Film".

Matt gives classes like
> firearms / tactics for film
> fighting / knife fighting for film
> S.W.A.T tactics for film
> blade / sword arts

On IMDb, he's listed as fight technical advisor, so I would also guess he started as stunt coordinator or stunt advisor and specialized in fighting techniques...


on the Website, it says
For 3 years, Act Tactical For Film (ATFF) has been the #1 weapons, fighting, and tactical training resource for actors and productions on the eastcoast.
(...)
Founded by former Police Officer Matt Clanton, ATFF specializes in training actors and filmmakers while providing related film services for the production industry with our newest team member, Sanay Jay Croom, handling our Filipino martial arts for film.


They worked on movies like "Hunger Games" and "Fast 7".

I guess we can expect some serious Action sequences for the Pilot Episode! biggrin.gif

 
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One thing about the old show I never liked was that MacGyver had nearly zero fighting skills. I know the idea was that he thought his way out of situations and he was meant to be just an average Joe, man on the street to show that anyone could think there way out of problems, but an ex military person would have basic hand-to-hand skills and the fact that he was sent into some pretty dangerous situations seems almost out of character for that kind of person.

That being said I don't want to see MacGyver as some kind of Ninja that just jumps in lays out everyone in the room either, but ti would be nice to see that he can actually defend himself when all else fails.


 
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I'm also delighted to hear they are going for the same tone as the original. When I said earlier in this thread that this show needed to mature, be slick and be sex'ed up. I didn't mean it in the literal sense. What I meant was, within reason, within moderation and in line with other shows of a similar genre, that it will be up against and competing within the schedule.

I just would like to see the show move with the times and not be stuck in the past. I'd like to see a strong cast form and develop over time, and for the show not to centre solely on our main protagonist. Each recurring cast member should have a strong screen presence and compliment the show in helping to tell each and every story.

It sounds as though CBS are putting a serious amount of money behind this series - the addition of having dangerous fight sequences, a particular team of advisors assigned to creating and developing MacGyverisms (heard on grapevine), plus the addition of a very strong writing team, this should all stand towards creating or recreating a classic tv series, we all love and adore.

 
                                                                     
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Posted: 4 July 2016 - 09:22 AM                                    
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another MacGyver mention by tactical adviser Matt via https://www.facebook.com/mwclanton?fref=nf

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Posted: 4 July 2016 - 02:13 PM                                    
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Lucas and George bonding with fans via https://twitter.com/m_irandaaa

Guess we won't have to wait long until filming starts!

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