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I totally despise this MacGyver reboot. it will never be comparable to the original, and NO ONE will ever replace RDA!



 
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hi Cindy, I also think like that and believe this may be a similar case as Knight Rider reboot- in which the modern version did not work out well- but I'm optimistic, I'd like to have my Blue Ray versions of the old show- If the new show gets audience we might get it! biggrin.gif



 
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Cindy61 and Angus20, CBS aren't trying to replace RDA version of the show! It will always live on their channel CBS ACTION, and on DVD etc... for prosperity.

All they wish to do, is bring MACGYVER back, and introduce THE MASTER OF IMPROVISATION, to a new audience, and let his adventures and Macgyverisms live on, and inspire new generations of fans.

This is Lucas Till moment - Yes... he has big shoes to fill, and I for one wish him all the best. I think he deserve that opportunity to at least give it his 100% best shot. I also extend the same curiosity to CBS. This is a new show, and I for one have been most impressed how they have reacted to the original fan comments and concerns. They also seem to be acquiring a dream team behind the scene, some of the best and brightest talent to help make this show as good as possible. Money and resources are plentiful on this project.

MacGyver has Peter Lenkov spearheading this project. He was massively successful in bringing back H5.0, I have only started watching this recently... but what is evident was how he respected the past, and had lovely nod to the original in the overall style of the show. The H 5.0 opening title sequence for example (while updated and modernised) is nearly identical to the original version in so many ways. This has the ability to be as good as the original, and I can only pray and wish them the very best of luck with it.

MacGyver is too good of a character to simple fade away... he deserves to live on... it would be very sad of us all to despise or deny others... and new generations of fans the ability to get to know this great and wonderful character.

It's surely, a win, win for everyone?



 
                                                                     
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The big problem with Knight Rider was that NBC never wanted to do it. They were talked or forced (can't remember which) into it and almost went out of their way to find a reason to cancel it.

At least with the MacGyver reboot, CBS are hell bent on making it happen and have now pulled together a pretty good team to do it so whether it lives up to the original is yet to been seen, but even if it doesn't, it should at least be an entertaining show to watch.



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QUOTE (Cindy61 @ 9 June 2016 - 08:32 AM)
I totally despise this MacGyver reboot. it will never be comparable to the original, and NO ONE will ever replace RDA!

I haven't seen it yet, so I really can't say if I despise it or like it. Even the trailer that they made is no longer an accurate depiction of the show, since it's apparently being drastically reworked.

But the way I see it is this: If it turns out to be a good show, that's great, it'll give me something new to watch. If it turns out to be lousy, it'll probably disappear fairly quickly, no harm done. And either way, it's not replacing the original. You can always watch reruns of the original, and it's not as if they had the option to do a new MacGyver series with RDA, and then opted to do this instead.



 
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I guess it's okay for some people to not really like the reboot, because we don't really know much about it yet. Well, we do but it's not like we really know what will happen, right? Basically, we still don't understand some things...and that's why it's great that slowly they're making the fans understand smile.gif Hopefully, as we get to understand it more, it will eventually turn out well for everyone smile.gif

But of course, for now, we don't understand some things, and just like what Martha Kent said in Batman v Superman, "People hate what they don't understand" harhar.gif Kidding aside, we should try to keep a positive attitude towards it, tho. smile.gif I mean, just look at how superheroes thrive today....it wouldn't have happened if they haven't made a presence through their different incarnations and reboots. Just look at how Spider-Man already had 3 reboots since 2002 biggrin.gif Superman already had lots of different incarnations. Christopher Reeve has been the benchmark of all Superman performances since he played it well, but new actors have done well, too. This proves that the character must be more important than the actors who played it. We can have our favorite actor who played the character, but I think we should love the character more than the actor. smile.gif

I guess that's why there's a difference between the RDA forums and here. In the RDA forums, I guess they love RDA more than MacGyver and thus they close their minds for the reboot. Here, the vibe is a little more positive, with the negativity more on our thinking that it may not give respect to the original than us thinking that no one can ever play MacGyver again, Just an opinion thumbsup.gif



 
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Sorry you all. maybe i shouldn't have said 'despise.' sad.gif i have watched the trailer, and IMHO the guy they picked for the show doesn't fit. he looks and acts mean. which is nothing comparable to the original. But like RDoyletv said, the new audience can watch it and be inspired by it. i'm really sorry if i upset some of you.



 
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Don't worry about it Cindy.

We're all here to give our opinions and discuss things. If we all agreed on everything this place would be pretty boring.




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I tend to agree. As it was, the new show originally presented its own concerns, however with all the recent changes and updates, things are starting to look more promising.

Lucas Till is a young and new actor. He needs time to evolve. I have seen him in a few things so far and he is starting to grow on me. I just saw him in X-Men Apocalypse last week and my first reaction was, "Oh, there's MacGyver" not even realising i just thought it. laugh.gif

I suspect the re-shoot will give slight changes to his personality. We will have to see.



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QUOTE (denizen @ 9 June 2016 - 04:56 PM)
I suspect the re-shoot will give slight changes to his personality. We will have to see.

I hope so because the sure of himself attitude we saw in the teaser would get old real quick for me.

That "and the crowd goes wild" scene really drove the nail into the coffin for me. So yeah, I'm hoping that changes.




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No worries Cindy,

I suppose it hard to get a real sense of Lucas Till's portrayal of the characters in a 1.47, worth of a promo. And there has been a lot of reconstructing of the character since that pilot. So let's hope they've spotted your concerns.

Remember actors are quite versatile, they need to be able to adapt to different characters and protray many different roles over their lifetime. Be under no illusion, I'm sure a detailed post mortem was done after shooting that pilot. With Lucas, probably been given a list (as long as your arm) of things to work on, and refine before he's back on set ready to film for the new series. If he wants the job badly enough, he will be eager to work on those problem areas...getting them right, so as to please everyone.

I heard recently from someone (media buyer) who watched the full 20min version, and they couldn't praise it highly enough. People couldn't stop looking at their watches waiting for the promo for the comedy "Kevin Can Wait" to finish. But their was a huge difference and contrast when MacGyver was played, with all eyes glued to the screen, you could hear a pin drop. The reconstructing comments didn't phase the TV buyers either, in fact it reassured most, that the series would be hot property on their tv schedules.



 
                                                                     
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QUOTE (KiwiTek @ 9 June 2016 - 07:11 AM)
That "and the crowd goes wild" scene really drove the nail into the coffin for me. So yeah, I'm hoping that changes.

...and the text of the song ("I'm the baddest mother(...) of the year")... I was like "uhm, WHAT? Who got to chose the music for this trailer???" blink.gif



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yes completely off the track for MacGyver!

but hopefully those things will be fixed.




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That soundtrack was also used in the promo for the new Letal Weapon TV show.

Did anyone else spot this? ...and I wonder who copied who?




 
                                                                     
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QUOTE (RDoyletv @ 9 June 2016 - 06:24 PM)
That soundtrack was also used in the promo for the new Letal Weapon TV show.

Did anyone else spot this? ...and I wonder who copied who?

Is it? That line's not used and it doesn't sound the same to me.







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No sorry for the confusion, that exact line isn't used correct - but the same song is.

It happens towards the end of the Lethal Weapon Promo,

At the point - one of the main actors jumps on the top of the roof of the speeding car. You can clearly hear the same song used.

..."I'm dangerous" - Same song definitely !



 
                                                                     
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Shrugs the trailer was fine for me because like I said the character of Macgyver was pretty fully fledged by season 2 and completely unchanged while that is fine I want to know how he got to that point... I don't mind Macgyver Begins at all but CBS seems to be changing things which is fine too if Lucas till plays a more fully fledged Mac I am ok with that too.



 
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QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 9 June 2016 - 12:39 AM)
...and the text of the song ("I'm the baddest mother(...) of the year")... I was like "uhm, WHAT? Who got to chose the music for this trailer???" blink.gif

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who caught that. lol

It was a minor detail, but sometimes minor details are important. It can give an overall feel of the show's attitude. Part of the reason I'm still on the fence. To me, the attitude is what's important here. What made MacGyver different was because he had a good attitude and a genuine concern for others... he may have been sure of himself, but he wasn't pretentious. Since we're dealing with a younger version, we should probably expect his character to be a little more cocky. But, as long as his true nature isn't lost completely, I can ignore the smaller details.

Sometimes I feel like I'm repeating myself... am I repeating myself?? XD



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QUOTE (Jediferret @ 10 June 2016 - 03:07 AM)
QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 9 June 2016 - 12:39 AM)
...and the text of the song ("I'm the baddest mother(...) of the year")... I was like "uhm, WHAT? Who got to chose the music for this trailer???"  blink.gif

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who caught that. lol

It was a minor detail, but sometimes minor details are important. It can give an overall feel of the show's attitude. Part of the reason I'm still on the fence. To me, the attitude is what's important here. What made MacGyver different was because he had a good attitude and a genuine concern for others... he may have been sure of himself, but he wasn't pretentious. Since we're dealing with a younger version, we should probably expect his character to be a little more cocky. But, as long as his true nature isn't lost completely, I can ignore the smaller details.

Sometimes I feel like I'm repeating myself... am I repeating myself?? XD

Hopefully that choice of song lyrics and other things, which are true to the core of the character, will become more consistent with the Macgyver we know. We can look back on these things like we do Mac shooting a rifle in the original pilot so many years ago thumbsup.gif



 
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Totally agree,

I suppose we must be mindful of the fact that Peter Lenkov and his team will want to experiment as much as possible with the character, in the first season and then refine the character over time. Personally I don't wish to see Lucas mimic RDA's version of the character, I want him to be himself and Bring his own uniqueness to the role.

I do hope that they will be bold, brave and daring with the character and the story arc/direction for the series. Mac 1.0 was always a bit one dimensional for my liking and some episodes weak on macgyverisms. I'd love for them to explore and test the character to his limits. Such as, for example how Jack Bauer's character was tested with his drug problem in 24. It makes the character more human, relatable etc, when they push boundaries and challenge the character, and remove them from their comfort zone.



 
                                                                     
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In my experience, most trailer music has nothing to do with the movie itself; also it's often music bought off someone who only composes trailer music which means some movies have the same trailer soundtrack. That's why I haven't commented yet on it.

But I think for this reboot it's quite necessary to be aware of this stuff, because there are plenty other action shows out there. There are much more shows to choose from and ways to watch them. Also, since the original MacGyver show, lots of other shows implemented characters who use something like MacGyverisms. The interesting hero using interesting ways to get out of trouble or solve cases isn't a new concept anymore. But the character of someone like MacGyver is still quite special. I believe that if they want to reel in a new audience in, they have to show in these 2 or 3 minutes of trailers and promo reels what exactly makes him special. Why would they tune in for this show exactly?

I don't think this first trailer cuts to the point and the soundtrack is totally misleading who MacGyver really is. Yes, of course he's a badass (I would use a different word, but it fits for a young audience). But the point is he would never call himself that.



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QUOTE (KiwiTek @ 9 June 2016 - 05:11 PM)
That "and the crowd goes wild" scene really drove the nail into the coffin for me. So yeah, I'm hoping that changes.

Hmm. I thought that line seemed very much like something Mac would have said. I could definitely see RDA saying it. The fact that it's a sports reference helps, too, since Mac is into hockey, and a line like "And the crowd goes wild" would be something that's very much part of his lexicon.

The line that bothered me was the very last line of the trailer, when he asked if anybody had a Q-Tip and some bubble gum. It was a bit too cutesy and too much of a "wink, wink, look at me, I'm the guy who makes stuff out of nothing!" The smug smile when he said it made it even worse.





 
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I can also hear MacGyver say that. The song & his slightly inflatable head was the only thing i found anti-Mac.



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I've just spotted this, posted on IMDB in the trivia section.

The new MacGyver series follows the son of the original series protagonist, Angus MacGyver. As opposed to recreating the old character as brand new.

I must say, I'm much happier with this as the starting point for the new series, and I'm sure RDA fan are rejoicing also. It means the two shows are connected, but completely separate entities in their own right.

I've also come across this post from one of the writers - glad to hear that they are working hard.



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QUOTE (KiwiTek @ 9 June 2016 - 05:11 PM)
That "and the crowd goes wild" scene really drove the nail into the coffin for me. So yeah, I'm hoping that changes.

Hmm. I thought that line seemed very much like something Mac would have said. I could definitely see RDA saying it. The fact that it's a sports reference helps, too, since Mac is into hockey, and a line like "And the crowd goes wild" would be something that's very much part of his lexicon.

The line that bothered me was the very last line of the trailer, when he asked if anybody had a Q-Tip and some bubble gum. It was a bit too cutesy and too much of a "wink, wink, look at me, I'm the guy who makes stuff out of nothing!" The smug smile when he said it made it even worse.

Mac said exactly this at the end of one episode. He was playing the hockey game in his loft/apartment/whatever. He then did a breath to make it sound like the crowd, a large crowd, was chearing. It was said in playfulness and I remember because my son, who was about 7 or 8 at the time, and I both cracked up. smile.gif



 
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"the son of the original series protagonist" is this true? if so wouldn't be a reboot then.... hmm.bmp



 
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Technically, it would be a reboot of the TV series called MacGyver, and not a reboot of the actual character from the original. It similar in style to how they brought back Star Wars? Almost a like a continuation.

Was never a huge fan of the original Star Wars, but absolutely loved episode 7.

And loved how they updated the show but kept it true to the original in so many ways. Brilliantly executed!

I trust Peter Lenkov will have the courtesy and the foresight, to treat this new MacGyver series, with the same respect.



 
                                                                     
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QUOTE (RDoyletv @ 10 June 2016 - 10:24 PM)
I've just spotted this, posted on IMDB in the trivia section.

The new MacGyver series follows the son of the original series protagonist, Angus MacGyver. As opposed to recreating the old character as brand new.

I must say, I'm much happier with this as the starting point for the new series, and I'm sure RDA fan are rejoicing also. It means the two shows are connected, but completely separate entities in their own right.

IMDB isn't always entirely reliable, but if it's true, I'm fine with it. It certainly will help alleviate some of the complaints like "He doesn't look like MacGyver!" "MacGyver would never say that!" "RDA played the role so much better!", etc, etc. It also opens the door to a possible cameo by RDA as his dad, although RDA did say in New Zealand that he would probably turn down an offer to be on this show.



 
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Agreed, this is the best direction for the show. It introduces Lucas Till without, alienating fans of the original show. And makes the two shows completely separate entities.

I do hope they leave the door open for an RDA appearance. If the money is right, RDA will do it. He wouldn't let his fans down, guaranteed !



 
                                                                     
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