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Posted by: MacGyverOnline 9 March 2007 - 04:09 PM
Episode 132 - Good Knight MacGyver

Part 1 While tracing his family tree, MacGyver is knocked unconscious and transported back to the court of King Arthur, where he is asked to free a princess from the clutches of a tyrannical queen.

Posted by: MacsChick 9 March 2007 - 04:43 PM
I was tempted to give this episode a higher rating, but I'm a little torn on this one. I'm always entertained by it when I watch it, but then the snobby, history-loving side of me wishes that they had made the sets and the costumes a little more authentic. Still, a great Mac adventure. It's all right. smile.gif

Posted by: Sheepy 9 March 2007 - 11:18 PM
I voted excellent. If there was any higher ranking I would've voted for that! I just looooooove this episode. I have to agree on MacsChick comment though, the costumes and set (with this I mean the royal tent) were cheesy. Did you take a good look at the wigs and fake moustaches and beards???

But apart from that this ep is one of my alltime favs. Mac is my knight in shining armour, even though it's not even shiny w00t.gif
I like the interaction between Merlin and MacGyver; Merlin being jealous as hell and all. biggrin.gif

What exactly does Merlin say to get rid of the dog? Something like "Dada demon dog???"

Anyway I think the way Mac finds out he shares the same name as Ian's son is very cool. Okay, the nitpicks among us probably have seen the irregular writing, but still it's very cool.
And also the way he creates hydrogen gas to get that water bottle up.

This may sound sarcastic, but my fav part is when Morgana shoots him. At that exact same moment the labratory blows up and Mac dies with his back against the castle door with all the debris flying past (do you spell it debris?)
I've never seen anybody die in a more beautiful way. It actually brought tears to my eyes. (I have the best excuse for this: I'm a woman harhar.gif )

Posted by: MacGyver 9 March 2007 - 11:28 PM
Hmm...does this technically cover just Part 1 of "Good Knight, MacGyver" or both Part 1 and Part 2?
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Anyway, this two part episode definitely rates an excellent for me. This is another one that I very clearly remember watching as a kid. Waiting to see the conclusion of this exciting episode literally left me hanging! wink.gif

This was a cool episode delving into MacGyver's family history with his name and all. And Dana Elcar's last big great acting job on the series until the finale.
Another dream episode- but doing a play on Mark Twain's "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court" was a perfect fit for MacGyver! And there were plenty of great MacGyverisms in this episode. It was fun watching MacGyver do the joust with a his cowboy roping. And then putting together his own fire extinguisher.
And Merlin was really hilarious throughout the whole thing. And to have a pretty much literal cliff-hanging ending with MacGyver and Merlin about to fall into a fiery pit and holding onto that wood that was starting to break apart! That was intense!

This is probably one of the best episodes of the 7th. season. It's definitely a favorite for me. smile.gif sak.gif duct.gif

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 9 March 2007 - 11:50 PM
this is part 1 only

part 2 next week

Posted by: Sheepy 10 March 2007 - 12:12 AM
QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 10 March 2007 - 08:00 PM)
this is part 1 only

part 2 next week

Oh..... erm sorry... I just gave my meaning on both parts unsure.gif wacko.gif

I got carried away since I like this eppy so much....

Posted by: MacGyverGod 10 March 2007 - 01:43 AM
Excellent of course!!!! This was also one of the episodes I have watched A LOT during my childhood years!!!
Unfortunately when this was taped in the early 90's on the VHS, we missed the first scene with Malcolm. That scene is still a mystery to me on this date. I never saw that one. But I have slight guess, what it was all about. biggrin.gif
OK, so the writing was full of plotholes. As we discussed before, if he did travel through time, why didn't he think of way to get back? But who cares, this was just one 150 % MacGyver adventure.
The whole setting was great but um... doesn't Arthur live in castle? Or maybe was it mentioned in the first scene?
What I liked was that MacGyver was always on to Merlin's tricks, like with the rope. And gets them back by using a match to create fire.
Also the SAK is used a lot: to put the rope to sleep, to escape out of the lavapit, the make the whistle and to cut up Merlin's robe.
Anyway the action was great and of course like everything the lavapit which was maybe even better than the cliffhanger of The Legend of the Holy Rose.
Duncan was so cool, and his death even more cool and when his skeleton comes floating above the lava and sinks away forever. Hey that was Christopher Neame! ohmy.gif biggrin.gif
By the way Merlin = Peugeot.
But the lavapit scene was I think one of the most intense scenes ever. Merlin was getting scared, MacGyver's breathing got heavier, he had to think fast and the board he was holding was starting to crack.

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This may sound sarcastic, but my fav part is when Morgana shoots him. At that exact same moment the labratory blows up and Mac dies with his back against the castle door with all the debris flying past (do you spell it debris?)
I've never seen anybody die in a more beautiful way. It actually brought tears to my eyes.

That's one of the most dramatic parts of the episode and the best one too. The empty look on his face and the tragic music.

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What exactly does Merlin say to get rid of the dog? Something like "Dada demon dog???"

I think he says about the same thing he said when he first used it in Arthur's Court.

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I like the interaction between Merlin and MacGyver; Merlin being jealous as hell and all.

He's just got to admit MacGyver's a better magician than he is.

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But apart from that this ep is one of my alltime favs. Mac is my knight in shining armour, even though it's not even shiny

That was actually a quite cool suite.

Posted by: Sheepy 10 March 2007 - 03:48 AM
I love the part (sorry Rock, this actually is also in part II) in which Merlin crawls over Mac and Mac shouts all muffled by Merlin and his robe:

"Man, you could use a deodorant!"

Posted by: Mac 10 March 2007 - 11:52 AM
How do they come up these ideas?! I mean, a Minnesotan in King Arthur's Court? Were the writers all on crack that day?! How could anyone have thought that this would be a Good Idea? Didn't anyone stop to think that, hey, this might be the stupidest idea in the universe and really pushing the boundaries of what was done with the western episodes?! hmm.bmp

I'm glad that the answer to those questions is 'No' because GKM is just so much fun!!! roller.gif

We have to remember that the whole ep is a product of Mac's head injury, so I bet that the way we see the court is how Mac imagines it would have been. Remember, he's a scientist, not a historian. I'm not saying scientists can't be historians (raises hands), but Mac has demonstrated only general historical knowledge in past eps.

Setting aside, this is a classic MacGyver--plenty of adventure, clever MacGyverisms, Mac risking his neck to aid someone he hardly knows... It's cheesy, clichéd, funny, tender, and shocking. I mean, Mac dies at the end!!! Not exactly the ending one would expect for such a campy episode.

This was one of only a few eps I had access to for years, so I've watched it a kazillion times and it's only recently that I figured out what the eggs and charcoal were supposed to do to Arthur (well, I did have an idea of what the charcoal was for, but the eggs took me longer).

My only nitpick with this ep is at the end, when the paramedic (Merlin) helps MacGyver up. Okay, first aid has probably changed a heck of a lot in 20 years, but with a bonk like that, there's no way one of my patients would be getting up. Oh, no, he'd be on the way to the hospital.

Poor Colm Meany--despite everything else he's done, no matter how much Star Trek I watch, he'll always be the silly little genealogist from GKM.

When I got my season 7 DVDs, I figured I'd seen this ep enough in the past fifteen years and would have no interest to see it again for sometime. Yet, it still wound up being the very first season 7 ep I saw on DVD! laugh.gif

Mac

Posted by: Old Fan 10 March 2007 - 05:37 PM
Season 7 is not my favorite - I think when they went back to Los Angeles, certain elements went back to the old and tired. The overused locations, sets, actors. However, despite the hokey costumes, and acting... I do love Dana's participation - he had to memorize everything - without being able to first read it, and it just shows what a professional he truly was. Also, I love Mac in that costume.

Funny how in the Stargate SG-1 episode "Torment of Tantalus", Jack comes up with the "Ben Franklin thing" with using lightning as a power source for the gate - and how they had to rig a kite out the castle window to the diver's helmet to attract the lightning. Hummmm... I wonder how they came up with that idea!

The thought behind the episode - if certain scientific discoveries were made either earlier or later... how would that have changed history - takes us into the whole Alternate Universe idea. If Morgana was able to conquer Britain - how would things be different? (OK, OK... Morgana was ficticious... but was she? Like Mac said in Ghost Ship, "...Legend has to start somewhere...") Something to think about.

Alternate Universes are fun, but give me a headache. doh.gif jeep.gif

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 12 March 2007 - 12:02 PM
Well I watched part 1 of this last night and found it an entertaining little diversion.

one thing that occurred to me was that Christopher Neame seemed to have more lines in this episode than his other episodes put together.

I also noticed a bit of a nitpic too...

When Merlin is making the rope "come to life". We see him waving his hand over it.. and then the rope raises towards his hand... but his hand remains in the same position.

Then we see the rope being suspended from his finger via "invisible" thread. If this was actually correct... he would have had to raise his hand in order to make the rope rise, instead of holding it still and having the rope move towards his hand,as he did.

Posted by: MacGyverGod 12 March 2007 - 12:47 PM
QUOTE
Well I watched part 1 of this last night and found it an entertaining little diversion.

Of course!!

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one thing that occurred to me was that Christopher Neame seemed to have more lines in this episode than his other episodes put together.

hmm.bmp Maybe. But he was the lead and only villain in Deathlock and in both parts of The Legend of the Holy Rose. I think he had more to say in Legend of the Holy Rose. However he is in almost every scene of the first part of Good Knight MacGyver. But he has more cool lines.
'Death to sorcerer! Sire, let me be the one to spill his vile blood!'
'If you fail... Mac'Iver!'
'He admitted his guilt!'
'The evidence is monstreous!'
'I fear no man!'
'I'm tired of your ravings!'

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When Merlin is making the rope "come to life". We see him waving his hand over it.. and then the rope raises towards his hand... but his hand remains in the same position.

Then we see the rope being suspended from his finger via "invisible" thread. If this was actually correct... he would have had to raise his hand in order to make the rope rise, instead of holding it still and having the rope move towards his hand,as he did.

Confusing. How this invisible thread get there? Only one way I can figure, wrapping it around his finger quickly before revealing it from his robe. Or it was a tiny lasso.

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 12 March 2007 - 01:24 PM
QUOTE (MacGyverGod[/b)
Confusing. How this invisible thread get there? Only one way I can figure, wrapping it around his finger quickly before revealing it from his robe. Or it was a tiny lasso.

Well getting it there isn't the problem.

The problem is how did the rope raise apparently without the threads assistance.

I guess you could put it down to showmanship on Merlin's part.. I guess having the rope move in time with your hand might arouse suspicion, although back in those day I would doubt it.

Its interesting how to two rather different things both originated from the same source (chemistry and what we now call illusion or stage magic)

Posted by: MacGyverGod 12 March 2007 - 01:46 PM
He must have wrapped it around his finger, but if it was too thight his finger would've turned blue. So the way I see it, the 'invisible' thread was already strung to the rope with one end, the other end was tied to itself so you would have a lasso. While Merlin gets inside his robe, he slides his finger through the thread and does his trick. With MacGyver being on to him.
But they were knights, simple minded. Their minds can't match up MacGyver's mind.
I wonder what MacGyver would've done if Gandalf or Saruman were there. happy.gif

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 12 March 2007 - 02:33 PM
ok...

now back to my question.

Posted by: Lothithil 13 March 2007 - 04:36 AM
I've seen the trick and done it myself... (stage magic was a hobby of mine as a kid). I believe a little of Merlin's trick was performed by other means than a string, to make it look good to the audience (us, that is, viewing from TV). But I have seen magicians carry off that trick most convincingly.

The string is looped over the finger and pulled down by the other hand, or even a foot. Under the cape, the foot comes down, pulls the string and the rope 'appears' to rise. By controlling the angle of view, a magician can appear to not be moving while doing this.




sorcerer.gif It's all done with smoke and mirrors! biggrin.gif

Posted by: MacGyverGod 13 March 2007 - 05:49 AM
Magic's confusing. huh.gif

Posted by: MacNymph 13 March 2007 - 09:40 AM
QUOTE (Lothithil @ 14 March 2007 - 12:46 AM)
The string is looped over the finger and pulled down by the other hand, or even a foot. Under the cape, the foot comes down, pulls the string and the rope 'appears' to rise. By controlling the angle of view, a magician can appear to not be moving while doing this.



OOOOOHHHH AAHHHHHHHH! clapping.gif Do it again Loth!! laugh.gif

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 13 March 2007 - 12:07 PM
Yeah I know how the rope trick is suppose to be done... and I know about using invisible thread.. in fact its currently being brought back by new street magicians such as Criss Angel, along with street levitation acts, where people are levitated while surrounded by spectators..... but I digress.

My point is this....

The way Merlin was waving his hand around over the rope.. doesn't mesh up with the method we see him using in the following shots.

I guess this is really a nit-pick from a magic geek perspective.


Posted by: Kate Mackay 13 March 2007 - 03:05 PM
I have to agree with Sheepy about getting shot. But everytime I see this episode and it gets to that part when he gets shot, I am thinking how he would HAVE to get shot on the top right side of his head, since when he fell down at the beginning , he landed on the top right side of his head and there would be the wound .

And it is one of my all time favs , too. I just love to watch this episode. If I was on a deserted island, with nothing else but this episode, sure I would go nuts . But good nuts , for loving it so much . ( Or maybe , I already am . hahahaha . Just kidding , folks. nothing to worry about. hahaha. ) . I would love to have nothing better to do than to sit and watch this , over and over. It is a great episode.

Sincerely,
Katey Mackay

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 13 March 2007 - 03:27 PM
Left... its the left side of his head.

Posted by: Kate Mackay 13 March 2007 - 05:06 PM
Are you sure about that ? Because , originally I started to type in that it was the left side but then I kinda visualized it in my head, and I figured out that it was the right side. That is why I wrote it as the right side. So let me ask again, are you sure about that ? Meanwhile I will also check again to see .
Sincerely,
Katey Mackay

Posted by: Kate Mackay 13 March 2007 - 05:18 PM
Also I gotta add that I agree about Merlin . He was hysterically funny the whole time. Perhaps he was meant to be the comic relief through all of that business of MacGyver trying to find out what his first name was, etc.
And I was about to mention what I see Sheepy has already beaten me to the punch. About that I love that part that Merlin is crawling over MacGyver and MacGyver could be heard to exclaim " Man , you could use a deodorant ! " But that was good that he said that , because it teaches the kids that there was a time that people did not take baths and showers . Because after viewing this episode the last time that I did, I went to do the research and found out that people did NOT shower and stuff back in the days. But at the same time, I think it is so funny how MacGyver ( or even , Richard ) said that. I laugh everytime I see that part. Man, oh man ! This is really one of my favorites.
Sincerely,
Katey Mackay

Posted by: Lothithil 14 March 2007 - 04:29 AM
Yeah, before the discovery of germs--and because heating a tubful of water over a fire to just for bathing once a day was a huge effort (and considered a waste of time) -- people believed that bathing too often weakened a person's health. And then when they did draw the bath, everyone in the family would bathe with the same water, from eldest to youngest... hence the saying 'don't throw the baby out with the bath water'! ohmy.gif


This educational moment brought to you by the Lothithil International Board of Know-it-alls. biggrin.gif


Oh, and I challenge anyone who has fallen through a trapdoor and hung over a pit of boiling rock NOT to work up a sweat! I'll bet there's not deodorant company who'll put THAT on their market testing!! laugh.gif

Posted by: MacGyverGod 14 March 2007 - 05:43 AM
QUOTE (Kate Mackay @ 14 March 2007 - 02:16 AM)
Are you sure about that ? Because , originally I started to type in that it was the left side but then I kinda visualized it in my head, and I figured out that it was the right side. That is why I wrote it as the right side. So let me ask again, are you sure about that ? Meanwhile I will also check again to see .
Sincerely,
Katey Mackay

Our right is his left.
If you stand in front of me, your left is my right.

Posted by: Sheepy 14 March 2007 - 08:39 AM
QUOTE
Our right is his left.
If you stand in front of me, your left is my right.


Just to make confusing things just a little more confusing LOL harhar.gif

About the wound being on whatever side of the head; the wound doesn't necessarily have to be caused by falling onto the ground, I always thought it was inflicted by the big flower thingy that fell from the balcony.

Aaah whatever, really love this episode!! YAY jump.gif
*G*

Posted by: MacGyverGod 14 March 2007 - 09:25 AM
QUOTE (Sheepy @ 14 March 2007 - 05:49 PM)
QUOTE
Our right is his left.
If you stand in front of me, your left is my right.


Just to make confusing things just a little more confusing LOL harhar.gif

About the wound being on whatever side of the head; the wound doesn't necessarily have to be caused by falling onto the ground, I always thought it was inflicted by the big flower thingy that fell from the balcony.

Aaah whatever, really love this episode!! YAY jump.gif
*G*

I'm affraid it's from falling to the floor because the flowers ended upon his head.

Posted by: Sheepy 14 March 2007 - 10:03 AM
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I'm affraid it's from falling to the floor because the flowers ended upon his head.


I thought it was just an error (for us nitpicks to nitpick on), but okay, I'll follow with the falling-on-the-ground-theory. laugh.gif

Posted by: Astra 14 March 2007 - 11:13 AM
QUOTE (Lothithil @ 14 March 2007 - 01:39 PM)
And then when they did draw the bath, everyone in the family would bathe with the same water, from eldest to youngest... hence the saying 'don't throw the baby out with the bath water'! ohmy.gif



I actually always thought it was the other way round (at least it was done so in my family): First were the little children, since they wouldn't need that much water at all (and also didn't make it dirty much) and with every other one following another bucket of hot water was added.


Posted by: MacNymph 14 March 2007 - 11:25 AM
QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ 15 March 2007 - 01:53 AM)
Our right is his left.
If you stand in front of me, your left is my right.

*holds up a mirror*

Now say that again. smile.gif

Posted by: Kate Mackay 14 March 2007 - 01:23 PM
Well ! I have looked at Good Knight , MacGyver as I said I would. ( only the first part .) And I can say with confidence that when I said he was hit on the right side of the head, I was referring to the second part of the episode. At the end, when he is returning to the present day. So , . . . Rocky. I can actually say we are BOTH right. Because I saw that when the flower pot hit him on the head, it was on the left side and that he fell down and landed on the left side of his head. But I was referring to at the end of the second part when he was coming back. When Morgana shot and killed him, he landed on the right side of his head. I thought it was very well done in slow motion . Perhaps to accentuate the fact that it is our hero that is being shot . ( Ooooh ! The drama ! The tragedy of it all ! ) But seriously, folks . I just gotta say, that I love this episode.
Also I was looking on another site and someone was saying that one of Richard's brothers appeared in this episode. I think they were saying it was his brother , Jimmy . Does anyone else know of this ? ( Sorry, I am not meaning to spread any rumours - true or not . I am simply asking if someone else agrees or not .)
Sincerely,
Katey Mackay

Posted by: Sheepy 14 March 2007 - 01:31 PM
Hey Kate, there's a discussion going about his younger bro being in GKM, here's the link. It's no rumour happy.gif

http://rdanderson.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1877

kicking.gif

Posted by: Kate Mackay 14 March 2007 - 01:42 PM
Yeah, Sheepy . That is the place I was referring to. Thanx for that link , anyway. That is where I was seeing that info . And you are saying it is true ? WOW ! Thanx for that. Hahaha. Kewl .
Sincerely,
Katey Mackay

Posted by: Sheepy 14 March 2007 - 01:52 PM
Well, when I look at the pics I can see some resemblance. Not entirely sure it's his brother, but he looks like him.... hmm.bmp

Posted by: MacGyverGod 14 March 2007 - 02:12 PM
QUOTE (MacNymph @ 14 March 2007 - 08:35 PM)
QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ 15 March 2007 - 01:53 AM)
Our right is his left.
If you stand in front of me, your left is my right.

*holds up a mirror*

Now say that again. smile.gif

Our right is his left.
If you stand in front of me, your left is my right.

QUOTE
Also I was looking on another site and someone was saying that one of Richard's brothers appeared in this episode. I think they were saying it was his brother , Jimmy .


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Hey Kate, there's a discussion going about his younger bro being in GKM, here's the link. It's no rumour

ohmy.gif He has a brother? ohmy.gif

About the wound. Let's just put it simply. He falls on the left side of his face causing the wound in the present time. He gets shot and falls to his right to wake. Period.

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I thought it was very well done in slow motion . Perhaps to accentuate the fact that it is our hero that is being shot . ( Ooooh ! The drama ! The tragedy of it all ! )

That is so true. You can't get better than that. Morgana screaming, MacGyver turning around, pow!, Morgana dies, explosion, MacGyver slowly falls down and ends the dream. And that suite suits him so well. The whole thing is full of plotholes and yet so enjoyable. I guess we can add this one up to the MacGyver Classics. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Kate Mackay 14 March 2007 - 04:12 PM
Yes, MacGyverGod . He has a brother. In fact, he has three brothers. From what I understand , though. None of them are in the business ( of acting ), now. But I guess at the time when he ( Richard ) was doing this episode of MacGyver, supposedly it was the case. I think it is Jimmy ( the youngest of the brothers ) that appeared in this episode.
Sincerely,
Katey Mackay

Posted by: Lothithil 20 March 2007 - 02:17 PM
I just adore the scene where Pete at King Arthur entrusts Mac with the mission to rescue Cicilia and clear his family name, and when he knights MacGyver and gives him the amulet... *sigh* I watch those scenes over and over.



biggrin.gif Mac in studded leather! *thud!*


Posted by: MacGyverGod 21 March 2007 - 09:30 AM
QUOTE (Lothithil @ 20 March 2007 - 11:27 PM)
I just adore the scene where Pete at King Arthur entrusts Mac with the mission to rescue Cicilia and clear his family name, and when he knights MacGyver and gives him the amulet... *sigh* I watch those scenes over and over.



biggrin.gif Mac in studded leather! *thud!*

This amulet, I have it my possession for many years.

It's meant only for knights of the round table. Now, we are one. Godspeed my son! biggrin.gif

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 5 August 2008 - 01:32 PM
Something just occurred to me.

That first scene when MacGyver pushes the bride and groom out of the way...

If he did that today, he'd probably be sued by the couple for grazes to their knees, damage to the dress and anything else they could think of. dry.gif




Posted by: MacsChick 5 August 2008 - 05:29 PM
No kidding! You try to help, and all you do is end up with pesky legal problems instead. laugh.gif

Posted by: SHEILA 5 August 2008 - 11:37 PM
I really liked this epo. I think RDA did a really good job of acting out how confussed he was to be in the 7th centry.He seemed to relly get into the part well. I love the whole dialog between him and Merlen. That was funny. I also loved it went when Mac read the message on the wall. That is one of my fave qutoes.

Posted by: Miasma 26 March 2009 - 08:18 AM
This is one of those embarrassingly bad episodes where I actually feel bad for the poor actors who had to be in it.
Part 2, fortunately, is better. It's still silly, of course, but not as cringe-worthy as this first part.

One thing I have to say, though, that I'm really enjoying about Season 7 (which I'm watching now)-- It's back to being about fun adventures, and so far every episode has at least a couple of MacGyverisms. Seasons 5 and 6 got a bit preachy, and there sometimes be entire episodes without a single Mac-ism. At least in Season 7, we're back to just having fun.

Posted by: Beachbead 12 April 2009 - 11:07 AM
When I first saw this one I thought it was a Movie.
I liked the fact MacGyver was trying to show the people how he uses his "magic" so to speak, by lighting a flameand showing off his knife.

Posted by: Makedde 7 October 2011 - 08:58 PM
I saw Part 2 before I saw Part 1, saw this one today and I loved it! I laughed all the way through, it was just non stop fun.

Mac lighting his match to create fire 'With this tiny stick...I have fire' and they all just stand there like he's condured up a pink elephant or something haha.

And when he's in Merlins tent making his little science thingymy that he does and says that Merlin aint too smart to have created the poison that nearly killed Arthur. Not in too many words but the implication was there and of course Merlin didn't get it.

Posted by: MacsLegacyLiveForever 11 October 2011 - 02:40 AM
I vote Excellent!! happy.gif happy.gif Love this episode.

Posted by: Rocket 30 August 2013 - 10:38 PM
Having read some of the comments on this one, I wasn't sure I was going to like it! I'm not a massive fan of the 'bang on head, transports our hero to another world' idea. It's got a bit overused by now...

I've seen a lot of Monty Python and a lot of Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy (TV series), so the knights made me shout stuff at the telly and Merlin reminds me of Slartibartfast whistle.gif
Also, my Mum's comment on the knights was, "They're a right load of prats, this lot, aren't they!"

But I did like the use of the matches and the knife, I did like Mac's patience with the whole thing wearing thin and I did like evil, feline Morgana biggrin.gif

Edit: And I forgot to look for The Other Anderson! Does anyone know which of the knights he is?

Posted by: cmbj67 8 August 2014 - 03:11 PM
I don't know which one, I didn't even know his brother was in this episode until today! huh.gif I just knew he tried the acting career.

Anyway, about the episode, I voted good thumbup.gif because it's a little different from the usual but I like it. It's a funny episode biggrin.gif , I like the interaction Mac/Merlin, several scenes and I like Mac dressed as a knight.

The only thing I don't like are those clear lenses he's wearing, I prefer his dark eyes. whistle.gif

Posted by: RadiantRose 17 October 2016 - 12:00 PM
QUOTE (Mac @ 10 March 2007 - 11:52 AM)
How do they come up these ideas?! I mean, a Minnesotan in King Arthur's Court? Were the writers all on crack that day?! How could anyone have thought that this would be a Good Idea? Didn't anyone stop to think that, hey, this might be the stupidest idea in the universe and really pushing the boundaries of what was done with the western episodes?! hmm.bmp

I'm glad that the answer to those questions is 'No' because GKM is just so much fun!!!  roller.gif



Setting aside, this is a classic MacGyver--plenty of adventure, clever MacGyverisms, Mac risking his neck to aid someone he hardly knows... It's cheesy, clichéd, funny, tender, and shocking. I mean, Mac dies at the end!!! Not exactly the ending one would expect for such a campy episode.


Henry Winkler gave the world the term "jumping the shark". I find it useful to remember that whilst contemplating the ridiculousness of some of these episodes.

Posted by: RadiantRose 17 October 2016 - 12:06 PM
QUOTE (Mac @ 10 March 2007 - 11:52 AM)
My only nitpick with this ep is at the end, when the paramedic (Merlin) helps MacGyver up. Okay, first aid has probably changed a heck of a lot in 20 years, but with a bonk like that, there's no way one of my patients would be getting up. Oh, no, he'd be on the way to the hospital.


Someone should also have told Mac that trying to feel for a pulse for about a second and then saying, "He's dead" is ... not scientific. Someone should also have said this to Bones on "Star Trek" also ...

Posted by: RadiantRose 17 October 2016 - 12:07 PM
Also - what has Mac got against shields?

Posted by: MacGyverGod 18 October 2016 - 04:08 AM
'I like to travel lightly, Sire. My suit's heavy enough.' Ring any bells?

Posted by: RadiantRose 19 October 2016 - 11:18 AM
QUOTE (MacGyverGod @ 18 October 2016 - 04:08 AM)
'I like to travel lightly, Sire. My suit's heavy enough.' Ring any bells?

I suppose it would be quite heavy to someone used to modern clothing. I was just thinking a shield would have been useful.

Posted by: Jediferret 19 October 2016 - 01:01 PM
Not really... since they have a travel, a shield would have been very impractical, not to mention heavy to carry for such a long trek... but it's still not as impractical as Merlin's wine. lol

Posted by: RadiantRose 19 October 2016 - 02:00 PM
QUOTE (Jediferret @ 19 October 2016 - 01:01 PM)
Not really... since they have a travel, a shield would have been very impractical, not to mention heavy to carry for such a long trek... but it's still not as impractical as Merlin's wine. lol

You make a good point. I think I was thinking in terms of modern materials. I imagine that ye olden day shields would have been heavy. Although if any historians here know better .......

Posted by: RadiantRose 26 October 2016 - 03:06 AM
Another thing is that tracing Mac's ancestry solely through those ancestors with the M'Iver/MacGyver line only tells a small part of the story of his ancestry.

Clearest example: his grandfather's surname was Jackson. Harry was presumably born with the surname Jackson; with parents named Mr and Mrs Jackson and a set of paternal grandparents also named Mr and Mrs Jackson. Just looking at the MacGyver line is ignoring Mac's mother's entire family.

If SAM were to go to the same genealogist, he would probably learn all about his Molloy ancestry and none about Mac's.

Posted by: Jediferret 26 October 2016 - 03:55 AM
Regardless for lighter, more modern materials, a shield would still be impractical and cumbersome. One of my favorite video game series is called Dragon Age (same timeline). In Dragon Age you have three classes... Warrior, Rogue and Mage. Warriors usually carry shields and long swords. This is because they're physically strong, and their attacks are powerful, but very slow.

MacGyver is actually a Rogue. Rogue's rely on cunning more than physical strength, which makes heavy armor, long swords and shields impractical because it slows them down. Rogue's abilities are speed, sneak and lockpicking... all things MacGyver's does.

I only use this comparison so you get where I'm coming from.

As for Mac's studying his family history... it would make sense that he studied the "MacGyver" name. That IS his last name anyway, and we knew very little about his father or any history regarding the MacGyver name. Through out the entire series, we learned about his grandfather and his mother, the Jackson side. It was only fair, and makes sense, that he studied his father's side, learning about his family name. Otherwise, the show would be called "Jackson".

I also find it interesting that he got his "intelligence" gene from his father's side. My family is the same way. My father is a retired engineer, and comes from a long line of engineers and shipbuilders. His history is actually far more interesting than my mother's.

Posted by: RadiantRose 26 October 2016 - 05:05 AM
Very interesting about the Rogues and shields. Thank you for your input.

That is a good point: maybe he already knew about his mother's relatives.

Although - taking an interest solely in the MacGyver/M'Iver side of the family doesn't take into account, for example, his paternal grandmother's family (etc).

I get that it was called "MacGyver" rather than "Jackson". That doesn't mean that his father's family is more important than his mother's family. SAM's surname isn't MacGyver, but he's still part of Mac's family.

Posted by: Jediferret 26 October 2016 - 05:31 AM
My point was that the show is about "MacGyver", not "Jackson". Neither is the show about Sam. So the audience isn't going to be interested in any other background other than where did MacGyver get his line of thinking from, which came from his father.

I think it was pretty obvious that both his parents were important to him, but to tell the story, it focused on his father's side. You also don't know if perhaps he already researched the rest of his family along with his father. I would think he would have.

However, if they dived into his entire family, the story would be lost and become overly convoluted... which would cause people to tune out.

Posted by: RadiantRose 26 October 2016 - 11:19 AM
I agree, he would probably have researched both/all branches of his family. I also accept your point about not making things too complicated for the audience.

Posted by: MiracleMac 17 November 2016 - 10:26 AM
I don't know in which aspect ratio they originally filmed the show, but this episode would have been great to see in HD and especially with 2:35:1 format.

Posted by: MacGyverGod 18 November 2016 - 07:30 AM
Perhaps for the Blu-Ray.

Posted by: MacGyver85 29 December 2016 - 08:34 PM
Loved this episode!

Posted by: Axminster 22 September 2020 - 05:28 AM
This two-parter is one of the first episodes I think of when I think back on my favorites.

The critiques of the costumes and sets are warranted, but it didn't negatively impact my enjoyment of it. It's a "fun" episode but dramatic nonetheless.

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