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Posted by: MacGyverOnline 5 March 2021 - 03:44 PM
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5-15 Abduction + Memory + Time + Fireworks + Dispersal

Airdate: April 30, 2021
Written by: Monica Macer, Alessia Costantini, Andrew Klein, & Stephanie Hicks
Directed by: David Straiton

Guest Cast:
Amy Dionne (Dr. Sandria)
Alexandra Grey (Parker)
Shi Ne Nielson (Jennifer Poole)
Jennifer Griffin (Helga)
Tom Nowicki (Orson Marcato)
Ajay Vishwanathan (Cresta)
Charles Carson Monroe (Dad Bod)
Harlan Drum (Brooklyn)
Paige Stanco (Sara)
Jaiílen Josey (Singer)


When Mac and Riley go missing and wake up 24 hours later in a corn field with no memory of how they got there, they must unravel the mystery to find who took them, and how to get rid of the nanotrackers in their bodies, no matter the cost.




Posted by: DashboardOnFire 1 May 2021 - 07:18 AM
Preliminary Ratings: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/the-sked-friday-network-scorecard-4-30-2021.html

Posted by: DashboardOnFire 1 May 2021 - 08:48 AM
via https://twitter.com/wassernixlein/status/1388463291715014656

Posted by: Slater 1 May 2021 - 09:09 AM
It does seem that they've left the door open just a crack for a possible new series/continuation, if Phoenix ceases to perform government-related missions and pursues only private ones.

Mac was understandably horrified that he'd been forced to fire a gun. But in the Army, he had no choice in the matter (if only for weapons qualification on the range).

Posted by: DashboardOnFire 1 May 2021 - 02:43 PM
while the episode wasn't perfect, and fits better as season than as series finale, but it was far from bad. I had initially expected a cliffhanger and a lot more plot holes, so I'm satisfied enough.

still wouldn't mind another season, though tongue.gif

Posted by: Slater 1 May 2021 - 03:05 PM
Assuming (alternately) that Phoenix was dissolved, some alternate career options might be:

Mac is hired by the United Nations to help developing nations with their infrastructure/water/food/etc. concerns. Despite a bout with malaria, he soldiers on.

Matty runs for US Congress and is elected on the "Be a sport - vote for short" ticket. She later considers a run for the Presidency.

Riley is hired by Google, but gets bored with the job and finds that hacking is much more fun and rewarding.

Bozer decides to try Hollywood. After many tries, he ends up on "The Batchelor", and eventually hosts "Jeopardy".

Russ retires to Italy and runs a profitable wine tasting resort and vineyard.


OK, just a shot in the dark tongue.gif

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 1 May 2021 - 03:59 PM
QUOTE (Slater @ 1 May 2021 - 10:09 AM)
Mac was understandably horrified that he'd been forced to fire a gun. But in the Army, he had no choice in the matter (if only for weapons qualification on the range).

It wasn't the firing of the gun that worried him it was that he carried out the order to kill someone - although in this case it was only a mannequin, but still, he followed the order and shot it dead.

Posted by: real_ness 1 May 2021 - 09:33 PM
So the government is just gonna let them tuck tail and run, with all the secrets they know and what they invested? It seems they are in a with or against the government situation soon anyway.

This reminds me of when Christopher Nolan's Batman ended with the segway for a Robin series that we never got and isn't on the horizon either. Honestly it would have been better ended, given what we know now, if he left the organization, just like he did in the original. They added things but they should have "took out" that last minute decision at the end.

Posted by: real_ness 1 May 2021 - 09:34 PM
QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 1 May 2021 - 10:18 AM)
Preliminary Ratings: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/the-sked-friday-network-scorecard-4-30-2021.html

Is this good or bad? Did it win Friday night or the timeslot?

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 2 May 2021 - 12:43 AM
QUOTE (real_ness @ 1 May 2021 - 10:33 PM)
Honestly it would have been better ended, given what we know now, if he left the organization, just like he did in the original. They added things but they should have "took out" that last minute decision at the end.

And what do they replace those 5 minutes with? Remember they only had 3 weeks to try and change it from a season finale to a series finale with cast and crew already dispersed back to their home states so no way to film new scenes.


Posted by: DashboardOnFire 2 May 2021 - 01:56 AM
QUOTE (real_ness @ 2 May 2021 - 07:34 AM)
Is this good or bad? Did it win Friday night or the timeslot?

It won the 8pm timeslot in viewers, but not in demo.

But for CBS, it doesn't matter as much how shows do in comparison to other networks. They have to do well within their own network and compared to all current scripted shows on CBS (about 24 this season), MacGyver ranks on Ranks 15 or 16. So not too well but not a complete failure.

I write more on that stuff on my weekly blog posts: https://dashboardonfire.wordpress.com/

Posted by: real_ness 2 May 2021 - 05:33 PM
QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 2 May 2021 - 04:56 AM)
QUOTE (real_ness @ 2 May 2021 - 07:34 AM)
Is this good or bad? Did it win Friday night or the timeslot?

It won the 8pm timeslot in viewers, but not in demo.

But for CBS, it doesn't matter as much how shows do in comparison to other networks. They have to do well within their own network and compared to all current scripted shows on CBS (about 24 this season), MacGyver ranks on Ranks 15 or 16. So not too well but not a complete failure.

I write more on that stuff on my weekly blog posts: https://dashboardonfire.wordpress.com/

But I don't get that idea of comparison. Obviously something has to be a winner, an also-ran, and a loser. If it wasn't Mac it would be something else. Just the night or the timeslot sounds better to me.
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Posted by: Krug 2 May 2021 - 08:15 PM
Here we go...for the last time?

-Missing people are always found in the desert. Can't believe they didn't check there first.

-Abducted by aliens near the Staples Center? Well, that is the home of the Lakers, and LeBron James is in the new SpaceJam.

-Does Mac do their laundry? I get why Desi's speakeasy outfit is there, but why were Bozer and Riley's just handy?

-Mac having a cardboard cutout collection of various nerds is super on-brand for a guy who wrote songs about epidemiologists.

-They look like cat-burglars in these matching PJs.

-Watching Die Hard. Somewhere Jack wipes away a solitary tear and smiles.

-Mac also has a secret room. I now believe every team member must have a secret room in their house.

-Bozer's right, "Mac Cave" sounds way cooler.

-I bet Brooklyn(ne) & Sara(h) as a duo have played guitar and sung before a small crowd in a coffee shop a time or two.

-Are we sure Jennifer Poole isn't Patricia Thornton's sister? There's a resemblance.

-Bozer acting very "season 1" so far in this episode.

-So what was the point of the Speakeasy mission and tagging Cresta?

-Bozer's last minute accent and Russ as the "exuberant American." I laughed.

-These "government officials" look more like an updated version of Al Bundy's "No Ma'am" group from "Married with Children."

-Those fireworks didn't look like they went off at "10 miles up."

-Love Mac stepping aside for Riley to deliver a haymaker to Marcato.

-"Season 5" Bozer returns with a solution to the nanobot problem.

-One last 'round the fire chat. Wish there would have been more of these.

-Nanobot free. Good acting in this scene.

-Shuffling off the government coil.

-LMAO. They credited the guy Russ got into an argument with at the military celebration as "Dad Bod."

I agree with Dashboard, this was pretty good as a season finale, but falls a bit short for obvious reasons as a series finale. Ultimately, that's a darn shame as I really would have liked to see Phoenix operating completely out from under the auspices or control of any agency but themselves. Could have been a lot of good "random adventure" episodes to come from that. I did see that finding that Incan treasure that Russ was after would have been part of a season 6. That could have been fun, but alas...I guess there's still a glimmer of hope, but with CBS owning the rights, I just don't see anything coming of the #SaveMacGyver campaign, sadly.

...'til we meet again... clip.png duct.gif sakopen.gif

Posted by: DashboardOnFire 3 May 2021 - 12:03 AM
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-Does Mac do their laundry? I get why Desi's speakeasy outfit is there, but why were Bozer and Riley's just handy?

I'm no expert in laundry, but I'm pretty sure that Desi's dress needs to be handwashed anyway.

And wouldn't Mac's and Riley's outfit having been dissected CSI-style to find out where they've been held? Checking for blood, tissue, hair, pollen and the like? Maybe I''ve been watching too much CSI lately tongue.gif

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-Mac also has a secret room. I now believe every team member must have a secret room in their house.

Funny how Desi is surprised about not knowing. I remember Mac talking about his secret escape in episode 2x12. But when Desi took over for Jack's security, shouldn't she have known?

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-Are we sure Jennifer Poole isn't Patricia Thornton's sister? There's a resemblance.

After the preview trailer, some fans actually thought it's her.

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-So what was the point of the Speakeasy mission and tagging Cresta?

I have to admit I still have no clue laugh.gif

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Ultimately, that's a darn shame as I really would have liked to see Phoenix operating completely out from under the auspices or control of any agency but themselves. Could have been a lot of good "random adventure" episodes to come from that.

I wouldn't have minded either. Similar to "Scorpion", I guess.

But weren't they already independent at the beginning of Season 4 because they had been defunded and shut down? hmm.bmp

Posted by: Slater 3 May 2021 - 02:41 AM
In the original series, wasn't Phoenix pretty much an independent organization?

Posted by: real_ness 3 May 2021 - 03:25 AM
I'd say the time limit for this to be picked up somehow is about a year. I don't see this level of activism and conversation to go on for a year for any service to take notice.

Posted by: MacGyverOnline 3 May 2021 - 03:26 AM
QUOTE (Slater @ 3 May 2021 - 03:41 AM)
In the original series, wasn't Phoenix pretty much an independent organization?

Not pretty much, it was completely independent.


https://www.macgyveronline.com/macgyververse/organizations/phoenix-foundation/

Posted by: DashboardOnFire 3 May 2021 - 01:05 PM
Final Ratings: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-friday-cable-originals-network-finals-4-30-2021.html

Posted by: real_ness 4 May 2021 - 05:21 AM
They were poked and prodded at over 200 times....How are they not human strainers basically lol

Posted by: DashboardOnFire 6 May 2021 - 06:55 AM
Science Notes by Tech Consultant Rhett Allain: https://rjallain.medium.com/macgyver-science-abduction-memory-time-fireworks-dispersal-69b1f45194d1

Posted by: DashboardOnFire 9 May 2021 - 03:17 AM
interesting tweet by writer Alessia Costantini: https://twitter.com/AlessiaSimonne/status/1388953216759394305

Makes you wonder how much of Season 5 was changed due to CBS' wishes and demands...

Posted by: real_ness 10 May 2021 - 05:12 AM
I.e. no flashbacks of a person that doesn't want anything to do with the series & plain as day walked away from it.

This where reality is at odds with fantasy

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