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5-10 Diamond + Quake + Carbon + Comms + Tower

Airdate: March 5, 2021
Written by: Andrew Karlsruher & Andrew Klein
Directed by: Michael Martinez

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David Dastmalchian (Murdoc)
Joe Pantoliano (Andrews)


While on a mission to hunt down a Codex lead, Mac and the team discover Murdoc (David Dastmalchian) hacked their comms and has recorded them for months. Now, Mac and the team must stop Murdoc, who is working with Andrews (Joe Pantoliano), as they plot to kill thousands and reveal each Phoenix memberís most-guarded secrets.






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Hey y'all! How's it going? This should be nice and short as nothing much really happened in this one. tongue.gif

-Mac would do something as dorky as make his own diamond for an engagement ring...and we love him for it.

-Bozer's reaction is all of us (or most of us). Reminds me of when a couple of friends of mine announced their engagement and one of our other friends said "you're joking, right?" It didn't last a year. laugh.gif

-I feel like Mac's manicness in this scene is a tell that this decision was not made in the best frame of mind.

-The return of Big Brother Matty.

-The prodigal son (not Frank Bennett) has returned!

-The complete lack of full disclosure amongst the Phoenix team seems problematic.

-The lack of disclosure from the FBI on Murdoc's escape to what would be one of Murdoc's targets seems...problematic.

-Heckuva boot from Taylor there. Accrington Stanley could use the help.

-How tall is that skyscraper? Like two Mt. Everests?

-Andrews! Oh boy. This isn't good.

-LMAO at Andrews' apparently dyed goatee. Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov would be proud.

-Andrews' annoyance with Murdoc is palpable.

-"Why do you have that?" Great question.

-Again, the complete lack of full disclosure amongst the Phoenix team in regards to things they kind of, probably should, ya know, know...seems problematic.

-Also, the way this show just casually kills off cast members/former recurring guest stars is borderline comical...I guess when it's convenient it gets sprung on you both to the characters on the show and the audience.

-All that said, pretty good acting from Justin here.

-Well, this is one way to campaign.

-Mac getting his butt kicked by Murdoc tells me he needs to spend more time in hand-to-hand combat training than creating a diamond lab in his kitchen.

-Double-O Boz to the rescue! Matty and Taylor were being useless, glad someone stepped up.

-"It was his idea." *shrugs* laugh.gif

-That embrace. Emotions aren't a science. Here...we...go?

-Very wise advice from Desi...do whatever you feel is right. Unfortunately, just forgetting the past 24 hours isn't something Mac feels is right, as we'll see.

-We're done with Codex. I hope. Would be nice that this death blow to a dying carcass trying to get up off the mat be final.

-"Bozer, from the bottom of my heart....I SALUTE YOU." Or wait..."I'm sorry." Ugghh. Wanted that OG reference so bad there.

-Hmm. I wonder if they pick up where they left off next week, or just put it on the backburner. Or maybe they'll just randomly kill off another character off-screen (watch your back, Frankie!).

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This was certainly a lot of fun. David Dastmalchian is such a delight in this role and any time he shows up it's a blast. This time he was used more as a conduit to end the Codex arc, but also (and perhaps more importantly) to reveal/move forward some stuff with our Phoenix heroes. Where this will go is anyone's guess, but I hope whichever way they choose to go it's done sensibly and tactfully. Quite frankly, I think our namesake hero deserves it.

Also, I checked into Twitter land and let's just say it was ablaze. While it's nice to see the show generating some kind of buzz, it's also incredibly difficult to take what goes on under the #MacGyver hashtag very seriously. People are strange about their shows to say the least (probably why I only watch a small handful of programs at any given time), and I have to say it actually makes me appreciate that none of them have migrated over here. This community may be small, but I never feel dumber for having joined the discussion here. smile.gif



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Despite all upcoming episodes since last night being "new", it's still possible they rewrote parts of the scripts for the Season 4 Finale Episodes (421 and 422). I feel like this could have been the Season 4 Finale.



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QUOTE (Krug @ 6 March 2021 - 08:43 AM)
-Also, the way this show just casually kills off cast members/former recurring guest stars is borderline comical...I guess when it's convenient it gets sprung on you both to the characters on the show and the audience.

I really don't get why they keep killing off all their recurring characters; especilly off-screen. Yes, the chance of Reign coming back to the show was slim (since she will film another Season of "The Wilds" in New Zealand soon), but who knows? Same goes for George Eads. Lenkov is gone and they have a LA Unit this season so even just a short video call sequence could have been fun if they had asked.

There's four Seasons in between the Frankie episodes and it all worked out fine. It's not uncommon to have guest stars come back years later.

Curious why they never bothered to kill off Cage but maybe that's for next season tongue.gif

Not many recurrings left besides Murdoc, Ethan (Matty's ex) or Riley's parents.

I wonder if Lenkov tried to burn all the bridges or if that was Matalas' input who didn't really have a connection to the caracters before S4 anyway; trying to "spice" things up.

I still think it's a missed opportunity close the door on some of these great guest stars. Maybe they wouldn't have been interested in showing up every other episode, but maybe once or twice a season? Gwen, for example. Maybe Matalas didn't want "his" characters to be left at the hands of other showrunners and writers if he was to leave again...



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QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 6 March 2021 - 05:53 AM)
QUOTE (Krug @ 6 March 2021 - 08:43 AM)
-Also, the way this show just casually kills off cast members/former recurring guest stars is borderline comical...I guess when it's convenient it gets sprung on you both to the characters on the show and the audience.

I really don't get why they keep killing off all their recurring characters; especilly off-screen. Yes, the chance of Reign coming back to the show was slim (since she will film another Season of "The Wilds" in New Zealand soon), but who knows? Same goes for George Eads. Lenkov is gone and they have a LA Unit this season so even just a short video call sequence could have been fun if they had asked.

There's four Seasons in between the Frankie episodes and it all worked out fine. It's not uncommon to have guest stars come back years later.

Curious why they never bothered to kill off Cage but maybe that's for next season tongue.gif

Not many recurrings left besides Murdoc, Ethan (Matty's ex) or Riley's parents.

I wonder if Lenkov tried to burn all the bridges or if that was Matalas' input who didn't really have a connection to the caracters before S4 anyway; trying to "spice" things up.

I still think it's a missed opportunity close the door on some of these great guest stars. Maybe they wouldn't have been interested in showing up every other episode, but maybe once or twice a season? Gwen, for example. Maybe Matalas didn't want "his" characters to be left at the hands of other showrunners and writers if he was to leave again...

It's the easiest way to cut off those pesky fan questions such as "when is X returning?" Especially when the chances are as you say, slim, of their return.

It's still a bit lazy though.



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I just assumed they did ask, and the actors/actresses said they'd never come back, so they got rid of the characters. Monica did say we wanted to wrap up every loose end



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QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 6 March 2021 - 11:19 AM)
Preliminary Ratings: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/the-...d-3-5-2021.html

I read last night was a series low...in ratings I mean laugh.gif



 
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QUOTE (Krug @ 6 March 2021 - 07:59 PM)
It's the easiest way to cut off those pesky fan questions such as "when is X returning?" Especially when the chances are as you say, slim, of their return.

It's still a bit lazy though.

I don't mind resolving storylines off-screen every once in a while, especially when you maybe can't film certain scenes (e.g. now due to the pandemic). But this show is really lazy regarding this; especially with most of the actors not being unavailable. People dying off-screen left and right; plus relationships starting and ending off-screen.

I think there might be a special task force consisting of Jack, Jill, Leanna, Charlie, Leland plus Cage and Thornton? They all just went undercover tongue.gif

Also, listing them all up just shows that they don't know what to do with female recurrings besides either making them love interests, villains or collateral damage to drive the plot forward. The mail characters seem to have a lot more character development overall.



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QUOTE (Dragondog @ 6 March 2021 - 10:48 PM)
I just assumed they did ask, and the actors/actresses said they'd never come back, so they got rid of the characters. Monica did say we wanted to wrap up every loose end

And they are certainly doing that!

Now, about Jonah Walsh... hmm.bmp



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QUOTE (real_ness @ 6 March 2021 - 11:01 PM)
QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 6 March 2021 - 11:19 AM)
Preliminary Ratings: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/the-...d-3-5-2021.html

I read last night was a series low...in ratings I mean laugh.gif

Haven't seen the finals yet, but it was the lowest number I've seen...as was the rest of the CBS lineup on Friday for that matter.

I know some parts of the country are getting decent weather so maybe folks are headed back outdoors.



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QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 8 March 2021 - 05:37 AM)
Science notes by Tech Consultant Rhett Allain: https://rjallain.medium.com/macgyver-scienc...er-97c1239fd5c1

I called BS about the mass damper causing an earthquake outside the building and to other structures outside, and it seems I was right because the blog doesn't address it.



 
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QUOTE (Krug @ 7 March 2021 - 04:16 PM)
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QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 6 March 2021 - 11:19 AM)
Preliminary Ratings: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/the-...d-3-5-2021.html

I read last night was a series low...in ratings I mean laugh.gif

Haven't seen the finals yet, but it was the lowest number I've seen...as was the rest of the CBS lineup on Friday for that matter.

I know some parts of the country are getting decent weather so maybe folks are headed back outdoors.

Or this arts & crafts level of B storyline people are not here for



 
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QUOTE (Dragondog @ 7 March 2021 - 08:48 AM)
I just assumed they did ask, and the actors/actresses said they'd never come back, so they got rid of the characters. Monica did say we wanted to wrap up every loose end

That might be one of the reasons, but I think a problem is that a lot of the recurring characters are only interesting because of their relationships.

Leanna was defined by being Bozer's girlfriend. She had barely any character development. I don't know anything about her family or her past.

Bozer didn't have any interesting storylines in S4 either. Or at least I don't remember them laugh.gif.

So they had to kill his ex to have at least one reason for him and Russ having a fight (which was resolved within 5 minutes). Season 4 was basically all about relationships. There's simply not enough substance there for storylines outside of their love and family lives; and it's often unnecessary drama. And if there's no family or relationship at the moment (e.g. Bozer), all that's left is to kill someone blink.gif

I think some viewers might not be interested in that anymore and stopped watching.



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QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 8 March 2021 - 12:28 PM)
QUOTE (Dragondog @ 7 March 2021 - 08:48 AM)
I just assumed they did ask, and the actors/actresses said they'd never come back, so they got rid of the characters. Monica did say we wanted to wrap up every loose end

That might be one of the reasons, but I think a problem is that a lot of the recurring characters are only interesting because of their relationships.

Leanna was defined by being Bozer's girlfriend. She had barely any character development. I don't know anything about her family or her past.

Bozer didn't have any interesting storylines in S4 either. Or at least I don't remember them laugh.gif.

So they had to kill his ex to have at least one reason for him and Russ having a fight (which was resolved within 5 minutes). Season 4 was basically all about relationships. There's simply not enough substance there for storylines outside of their love and family lives; and it's often unnecessary drama. And if there's no family or relationship at the moment (e.g. Bozer), all that's left is to kill someone blink.gif

I think some viewers might not be interested in that anymore and stopped watching.

Not to mention everybody just lying to each other and being dishonest with each other for sport



 
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