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Posted: 1 July 2021 - 01:22 PM                                    
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QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 15 September 2020 - 11:38 AM)
There are reports that the CBS Streaming Service All Access will be rebranded as "Paramount +" next year. Maybe they will make the HD version available then?

https://www.adweek.com/tv-video/cbs-all-acc...ount-next-year/

I just decided to log-in randomly with Paramount+. I hadn't checked in in several months -- before the re-brand -- and last time I did, MacGyver was still the blurry SD I remember.

But good news: It's improved now on Paramount+.

I'm not sure if it's what the experts would call HD, but it does have the reproduced logo during the intro/explosion, and the episodes themselves are clearer than I ever remember seeing them on TV.



 
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Yes, they are using the new masters:

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I wasn't able to verify if they actually stream them in full HD, though. At least on desktop, the image is kinda blurry and has lots of compression artifacts, so they either just stream a downscaled SD version or just use very low bitrates. It's possible, though, that they do this on purpose and that the image quality on mobile devices and connected tvs will be better than on desktop.



 
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CBS have announced that they will do their own MOD (manufactured on demand) Blu-ray box of the show in the US:
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/MacGyver-The...Blu-ray/300396/

This is NOT to be confused with the Koch Films set. (Originally, it was supposed to be the same as with Charmed, i.e. CBS releasing the exact same discs once the set is done, but apparently, they didn't want to wait this time.)

The CBS box does not come with any bonus features and has the episodes and films on 33 discs, while the German set will have 35 discs (that's 33 of episodes, one with the films and one with bonus features). Also, the German box will not have that ... not really beautiful old box design of the DVD set. wink.gif

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I can't believe CBS won't pay a designer to faithfully recreate the original MacGyver logo.

Actually, I can as I guess they figure very few people care enough for it to impact sales, but still!

Sounds to me like the German set is the no-brainer.



 
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QUOTE (Jano @ 13 September 2021 - 05:11 PM)
CBS have announced that they will do their own MOD (manufactured on demand) Blu-ray box of the show in the US:
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/MacGyver-The...Blu-ray/300396/

So this is the real deal and not some fan-made ripoff?






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Yes, it's an official CBS release, even though they will only do it "on demand" in the US, as they did with Charmed.

As for the logo: As mentioned in some previous posts, we tried bringing it back for the German release, but CBS completely rejects even the idea because they "cannot let anyone interfer with their masters in that way". A recreated version of the original logo will be allowed to be used on the box design, but not in the episodes.

The rejection of any changes to their masters also means that the few individual intros (like for Lost Love and Secret of Parker House) cannot be included unfortunately, and they won't allow the extended Pentagon opening scene of the pilot episode to be shown either, due to it not being documented enough in their archives.

It will still be a great box with some nice new exclusive extras, but I just wish CBS was a little more flexible with some stuff. Especially not being allowed to use (a well made new version of) the original logo in the episodes is kind of a bummer. sad.gif



 
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Will the German release be region free, be able to played on US Blu Ray players?



 
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I'm sorry CBS...what's wrong with this logo????????
You want to keep the crap you've put on instead? are you kidding me?

And don't tell me it's not good enough for HD. It is in HD upscaled in 4K
https://vimeo.com/570970218



 
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And here, close...and personal.

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Well, to be fair, this is a fun fan effort, but it's obvious that this "4K logo" was just somewhat sloppily cut from the original SD video (see the very uneven, bumpy outline) and then upscaled and a bit retouched. That's how all the "HD logos" I've seen so far were done.

We (i.e. Koch) would have done a completely new, digitally recreated version of the original logo, which would have looked gorgeous, but since it's not allowed to be used, there's no point to it, unfortunately. sad.gif



 
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You know that the original is like that right? Bumpy and like it was sculpted with no perfect dimension for each letter, like it was hand made. Which is probably the case. And itís these imperfections that create the texture of the MacGyver logo. I donít call this fan made when itís way better than this singular computer font theyíve used where you see all its pixels when it zoomed in at the end. Not only CBS paid someone for only an hour of work to recreate the title so they wouldnít bust their budget but they were not even able to animate it properly. So now they only want to keep this version as the official one!!! God!! There are just executive people behind these decisions, the talent ones are long gone. So donít tell me this fan edit is bumpy when itís in fact how the original logo would look like in HD in all its glory!



 
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Despite all the restrictions from CBS regarding what we cannot do, now, here IS something that we can change, and I got the idea from reading through the old season one thread on the blu-ray.com forums: Would Mac fans enjoy if the show was presented in the chronological (production) order for the first time ever on our German Koch set? I originally only wanted "The Stringer" to be correctly placed as the very last episode, but browsing through the old threads, I realized that the actual chronological order of the episodes is slightly different from the way they were aired. Oftentimes, this will only be noticeable from some obscure calendar date in the back of a scene, but in any case, it's possible to arrange the episodes in a correct chronological order. User Kinard717 created a list of how that looks in this blu-ray.com forums post: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=15...3&postcount=191

Is that something fans would get a kick out of? I'd say let's do it, or is the majority of fans like "Nay, don't, dumb idea!"? biggrin.gif

The only thing that would need to be slightly altered is the placing of the "Coltons" episode. This was filmed during season six (as the second to last episode) but not aired until season seven, and CBS don't allow mixing the episodes between seasons. Still if it's presented as the first episode of season seven, it would only be one spot after its original production order and there are no consequences for continuity, so I guess we could let that pass.

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I don't personally like this idea.

This boxset is going to be the pinnacle collectors item for all true MacGyver fans. It should stay true to all aspects of the show, including the episode order - by airdate, not production number.

You should post this question in the Fan Club as well to get a better idea of what the fans think since it's much more active than these forums now.







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Well, that's a first to be honest. Anywhere else I posted about this, the idea was universally loved, not a single negative comment. So I guess a majority of fans would want the chronological order (that's at least what it currently looks like).

I do get the point, but you'll also have to keep in mind that the air dates are not really linked to the production and would have been moved around based on the channel's needs and other random reasons. (Also, the episodes weren't aired in German in the same order as in the US, so there's not really *one* "being true in all aspects" in that regard anyway.)

Personally, I do consider the chronological order to be most true to the intended vision of the makers of the show as that is the order the episodes were written in, too. I don't feel like it would make much sense to stick to a random broadcast order that was only done for reasons that don't apply anymore nowadays. (Why should, for instance, Mountain of Youth be shown as the last episode just because ABC didn't originally want to air it anymore and just quickly came out with it after the finale had such strong ratings? The Stringer was always meant to be the finale and the conclusion to the show.)



 
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I have to agree also on keeping the original first broadcast order. However I do like the idea of having the possibility to watch it in the production order. So any fan can decide to watch it that way with the list you given us...which also wont matter if some episode jump seasons. But as a first broadcast viewer, the first and last season episode are always an event. You've been waiting all summer to see the start of the new season and hope it will be good. Than you expect the same for the last season episode. So, you can't put an episode like The Coltons as a season opener. You can't start the season with an obvious pilot for another series that barely involve our main character. So, for the box set, I would appreciate being as close as possible to the original. That's why the MacGyver logo should be restored to it's original look smile.gif BUT, EVERYONE will agree that the last broadcast episode was a big misstep from ABC and that was just plain executive stupidity and that The Stinger should have been broadcast as the last episode.

SO, in summary, Keep the original order, except for the last two episode of the series. And fire the idiot who has approved the new name font AS the official new one for the show.



 
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