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|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 8 April 2021 - 04:41 AM|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 8 April 2021 - 05:56 AM|
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|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 8 April 2021 - 08:48 AM|
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|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 8 April 2021 - 09:03 AM|
|Posted by: real_ness 8 April 2021 - 09:46 AM|
|I can see why people like Tristin (I'm sure she's not the only one) kept their friendship with Lenkov. Even with all his drama (so to speak) he can still presumably grease some wheels or know people who can so when things like this happen they can hit the ground running.|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 8 April 2021 - 10:05 AM|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 8 April 2021 - 10:37 AM|
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|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 8 April 2021 - 01:27 PM|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 8 April 2021 - 01:32 PM|
|some fun photos from different seasons via https://www.instagram.com/p/CNaAx0dli34/|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 8 April 2021 - 01:46 PM|
|some fun photos from different seasons via https://www.instagram.com/p/CNaAx0dli34/|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 8 April 2021 - 01:46 PM|
|some fun photos from different seasons via https://www.instagram.com/p/CNaAx0dli34/|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 8 April 2021 - 01:47 PM|
|some fun photos from different seasons via https://www.instagram.com/p/CNaAx0dli34/|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 8 April 2021 - 01:47 PM|
|some fun photos from different seasons via https://www.instagram.com/p/CNaAx0dli34/|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 8 April 2021 - 02:06 PM|
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 8 April 2021 - 04:38 AM|
CBS have announced today that the MacGyver reboot has been cancelled. The last episodes of this season will air as scheduled with the series finale airing on April 30.
The news has shocked fans who, like everyone else, including the prediction sites, thought it was secured for a 6th season. Fans have already begun petitioning CBS with the #SaveMacGyver hashtag and a change.org petition to try and get the show reinstated.
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 8 April 2021 - 03:59 PM|
|I knew this day would come but man this hurts|
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 8 April 2021 - 04:00 PM|
This is horrible why is this show being canceled
|Posted by: parkerdaley 8 April 2021 - 05:54 PM|
|Was this show cancelled because of what is going on in the state Georgia.|
|Posted by: parkerdaley 8 April 2021 - 05:55 PM|
|Was this show cancelled because of what is going on in the state Georgia.|
|Posted by: Shy175223 8 April 2021 - 08:52 PM|
| Well it could be any number of reasons really ratings, storylines, etc... I think it all started when George Eads left the show and it hasn't been the same since. When the character Desi was introduced I was afraid that they would put her and Mac together and I was right. To me, that was a big mistake, they had these characters break-up off/on than they had to make the whole thing into a triangle by having Riley into the mix which turned almost every episode into soap opera instead of the action / adventure it was suppose to be
Like many others I wasn't surprised to read about the cancelation, sadden but not surprised. There are still MacRiley shippers that hope that in three weeks that they would somehow get together eventhough, in the weeks episode, Mac and Desi are moving in. I could be wrong, but I thought Riley made it clear that it wouldn't be a good idea since it would ruin their friendship. To me they always good together as friends or brother/sister. Never thought of them romantically., still don't
The show was great w/o this romantic entanglements and a triangle. I would like to see Mac with a LI but not like what was happening in season 5.
|Posted by: Brick_Bratford 9 April 2021 - 12:56 AM|
| Bummer! Whilst I've never really warmed to the re-boot (new Mac is not really Mac to me and I don't like the CSI/24/IMF/Fast and furious vibes) I'll be sad to see it go.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 9 April 2021 - 01:51 AM|
All a network cares about is money. Ratings-wise, there was no reason for cancelling it. To me, there will always be a question mark if they didn't just want to finally close the lid on the actors that led to Lenkov finally being fired (and maybe even to the cancellation of H50).
I was expecting a cancellation after Season 4, but not this time. While covid safety protocols made the show more expensive, they still got a "cheap" season with 15 episodes while only filming 8 and a half. They successfully filmed during a pandemic with a complete new crew and even setting up an LA Unit for Meredith (instead of writing her character out temporarily). Why bother if they were going to cancel it anyway? Why bother with re-opening the merch store with new items?
It would have been nice if they got a "re-nancelling" (announcement that a shortened Season 6 will be their last) so they can wrap up at least some of the unresolved storylines.
And while the cast might do well for a few months despite being unemployed, the crew is probably not in the best place when losing their jobs during a pandemic. I hope we get to see them working on other projects soon.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 9 April 2021 - 01:54 AM|
I'm not sure they're friends. The problem is that if you're not an A-Lister, you can't piss off too many people in the industry because even though Lenkov might be shunned temporarily, he still is friends with friends with friends who know people.
So far, I've only seen Lenkov comment on Justin's post which was a bit of a shocker to me.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 9 April 2021 - 02:02 AM|
I doubt it. Georgia has been a "problem" for a while now and CBS still has another show in production there ("Dynasty" that airs on CW).
Also, there's a lot of people that need a film industry job so why punish them?
We'll never know the real reason, but I think it was a way to get rid of another Lenkov show while at the same time make room for another show - either the newly ordered NCIS: Hawaii to pair it with Magnum (pushed to 8pm as lead-in) or to put another show there that isn't doing too well (e.g. Bull or SWAT).
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 9 April 2021 - 02:13 AM|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 9 April 2021 - 03:00 AM|
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 9 April 2021 - 04:27 AM|
|Still haven't seen season 4 here and I presume they will probably wait to do it until they can air it along with season 5. While opinions over the show has clearly been divided, it's sad to see it cancelled. I did see potential in the reboot and great story angles. Too bad to see it get cancelled but I'm glad for the things they did right. They gave us a great new Murdoc and other great characters like the Ghost and Riley and Jill was an excellent supporting character and they will always live on in fanfiction and 94 episodes is not bad in total.|
|Posted by: parkerdaley 9 April 2021 - 06:15 AM|
| Please sign this at Change.org to save this show.
|Posted by: real_ness 9 April 2021 - 08:33 AM|
Tristin hasn't made a post yet on IG about it so he doesn't have the opportunity to post there. But before this, she made comments on his posts long after his firing. He had a post up of just Tristin/Riley for Women's Day, which I thought was insensitive looking at face value as she's not the only woman on that show. Till you realize the sum total of all which says to me they are friends with each other at least online.
But doesn't Lenkov had his hand in other shows as well, particularly a quarter of their primetime lineup...Why single this one out...alone?
|Posted by: real_ness 9 April 2021 - 08:48 AM|
| Opinions on the show are wide and varied of where the show "went wrong", I too have mine. Me personally I don't see George and his leaving as any golden egg that got away. His brand of character didn't add that much to the show anyway more than Lucas's, and it was his decision to leave the show he wasn't fired. Why beg anyone to stay? And he's done it before (on CSI), yet he seems to always have a job placed up on a shelf for him at CBS.
Generally speaking When you have employees who don't feel like they are part of the brand, invested in it doing well and all that that entails and only in it for what they can get out of it for themselves it's something else.
Not a fan of the love triangles, but at least the ideas and promotion of which was an attempt to turn the ratings ship around, but half a SHORT season is not enough time for that strategy to "work". Which made me wonder how last minute was this decision..? Because the previous sentence, as well a bunch of motions and some new unforeseen ones were done and why do them if they knew for a while it was gonna be cancelled....?
I didn't see it coming, but I'm not surprised as the thank you speeches on set sounded alot like goodbye goodbyes to me, as if they weren't sure if they were coming back. Yet I could see people like Tristin was honestly excited about her characters developments and where it was going via her social media, I'm not surprised she's the last of the main cast to say something.
|Posted by: real_ness 9 April 2021 - 08:53 AM|
|Posted by: real_ness 9 April 2021 - 09:01 AM|
How much "crime" is in Hawaii...
CBS and their 6708 FBI shows and 87519 crime shows. If you aren't doing straight up crime there's no room for you on their lineup. They've cancelled alot of good shows I like with stronger ratings to keep making way for new crime shows.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 9 April 2021 - 09:08 AM|
While I don't think they were totally sure about the cancellation (unless Lucas quit), they must have sensed they might get axed with no contract negotiations coming up this year. First clue for me was Justin starting to post MacGyver-related stuff a few months ago
I wouldn't mind if the main cast popped up in another CBS show soon. Justin's Rush Hours got axed after just 13 episodes and he still got another chance regular.
I have a feeling though that Lucas (and maybe Meredith) might be sort of "blacklisted" on CBS for speaking out publicly against Lenkov. Probably the reason why Meredith never commented on the statements for the Vanity Fair article. It's probably very hard for her to get cast as a regular in general since there aren't many roles for short people on primetime TV. And if you're labelled as "difficult", you might have even more difficulties getting roles on other networks or movies.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 9 April 2021 - 09:21 AM|
With Magnum and H50 plus now Magnum and NCIS: Hawaii, there must be A LOT of crime in Hawaii...
It's kinda ridiculous to cancel MacGvyer when they have 3 FBI shows and 3 NCIS shows plus CSI: Vegas on the schedule this Fall. Adding law shows "All Rise" and "Bull", SWAT plus maybe "Clarice" (though I think it might be axed), there's only crime-solving shows now with a few comedies. And one military show. Maybe they need a medical show for more excitement for the avid CBS viewer
MacGyver was the same team formula, but not not per se an organization involved in solving crimes the old-fashioned way. Plus fitting with being one of the shows with the most diverse cast (which CBS has been raving about that they wanted to be more diverse and tackling diverse issues).
|Posted by: Krug 9 April 2021 - 09:35 AM|
| A lot of good discussion here, but I think the most obvious reason is CBS was never really invested in this show once it became clear it was not gonna be on the same level as H50...and certainly not in syndication where you can argue Lenkov's H50 has actually surpassed the original in terms of popularity. Can't say the same for MacGyver.
It was kept around because it was cheap and fit decently in the night's lineup. Once that began to change, I, like Dashboard, long-thought the writing was on the wall and was very surprised that it even got a fourth and fifth season. CBS never respected it and knew it was expendable as soon as they felt like they could cut the cord at "maximum investment."
It didn't help that the show had a revolving door of cast members, writers and eventually showrunners (of which, even in the Lenkov-verse this was clearly his third-string show). It became a rudderless ship and the quality of the newest episodes reflect that.
Admittedly, I never really found this show to be anything other than mindless fluff, but I decided to stick around because you could tell the people who worked on it really cared and I developed a soft spot for it, and I think it had actually started to build some real solid momentum heading into Eads' departure. Not sure it ever got back there (even with the strong S4 arc).
I'll miss it. I'll miss Till's MacGyver (never thought he got the fair shake at capturing RDA's spirit that I think he could have). I'll miss Dastmalchian's Murdoc (a worthy successor to MDB's, IMO) and I'll miss chatting about the latest episodes here.
|Posted by: real_ness 9 April 2021 - 09:55 AM|
CSI: Vegas I thought the OG CSI WAS in Vegas
Clearly CBS stands for Crime Broadcasting Service. That must be why that eye is always watching you while you're watching the screen.
|Posted by: real_ness 9 April 2021 - 10:13 AM|
LOL Yes the cast must gotten nervous when they started making the promo in more personal ways.
Tristin, Justin, Levy have done a ton of projects here and there, they may have the most bounce back (unless they just feel like taking a break from the industry). Lucas and like you said Meredith I'm more worried about. His in particular work frequency is years apart, the last thing I remember he was in before Mac is a supporting in an X-Men movie, and I don't actually remember him in that.
Funny what you would get blacklisted for in the TV world. George loves to haul ass mid-season in shows yet he's not blacklisted. Yet Lucas and Meredith would be theoretically for standing up for what's right and showing support to a friend and co-worker.
Jourdan buying a (not so) new vehicle...yes the cast and crew might not be in such a good place mid-pandemic, esp. in Georgia, income wise.
|Posted by: real_ness 9 April 2021 - 10:18 AM|
I agree Murdoc was a nice evolve in generations. And I do like that they liked each other
RDA on screen was just different than Lucas on screen. The writers were different, hence the fingerprints and formula was gonna be different in the finished product.
RDA's Mac was much much more a humanitarian than he was an action guy. That wasn't here in this go round. It would have been better to tug on viewer's heartstrings THAT way than with a love triangle. But like I said, diff writers and so on.
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 9 April 2021 - 10:41 AM|
|I wish I knew why this was happening I keep expecting this to be an April fools joke I am gutted|
|Posted by: parkerdaley 9 April 2021 - 11:23 AM|
All other shows on Friday did 16 episodes and yet this show couldn’t do 9.5 episodes with 6.5 episodes from last year.
|Posted by: parkerdaley 9 April 2021 - 11:28 AM|
|They should have sold this show to CW years ago.|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 9 April 2021 - 01:17 PM|
I've heard a lot of ideas what CBS stands for since I started perusing TV ratings forums, but this is a fun one
Yes, CSI: Vegas is sort of a continuation (with 2 of the OG cast members being regulars) and not a reboot. Fun thing is, the OG CSI is already called "CSI: Las Vegas" on German TV so this will be very confusing... The inbuilt TV Guide on my TV sometimes confused OG MacGyver and the Reboot, adding the wrong description because they both are airing on German TV currently
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 9 April 2021 - 01:23 PM|
We'll probably never know. The cast might never speak out because of the risk of getting blacklisted. They're all too young to think about retirement, I guess. At least they can't speak now since they're probably still under contract (as far as I know, TV contracts usually last until the Upfronts in May). I guess that's also the reason why they're not urging fans to start petitions to save the show.
While George never had problems to say how it is if asked on talk shows (similar to RDA), the fact that CBS let him out of the contract early might mean he had to sign a form to stay quiet about why he left.
|Posted by: parkerdaley 9 April 2021 - 02:06 PM|
They should just move the show to CW.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 9 April 2021 - 02:54 PM|
I think if they were really interested in keeping the show, they would have for S4. But they decided to push it to midseason instead.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 9 April 2021 - 03:09 PM|
| I love this one: https://twitter.com/thenerdyeditor1/status/1380509047607074825
Also, Fans have already ordered and delivered about 120'000 paperclips to the CBS studios in LA
|Posted by: parkerdaley 9 April 2021 - 06:36 PM|
They moved Supergirl to CW after 1 season I think CBS was the one who rebooted Walker and CW is doing at.
|Posted by: real_ness 9 April 2021 - 06:57 PM|
What he have to stay quiet about? Didn't he leave on his own volition for his daughter?
|Posted by: Shy175223 9 April 2021 - 06:58 PM|
|Good point but than again Supergirl was more of superhero format than the crimesolving show like the others. If this petition works , I could definitely see this returning on the CW if they have room there.|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 10 April 2021 - 04:17 AM|
|some Tumblr comments via https://dashboardonfire.tumblr.com/post/648038214480936960|
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 10 April 2021 - 12:17 PM|
I guess they won't run out of paper clips for a while then.
|Posted by: BabyEinstein 10 April 2021 - 12:56 PM|
| I've read so many suppositions, and I think ultimately, it is economics. CBS has 3 new shows. Where to put them. With NCISNO gone, that's 1. I think Clarice will get cancelled. 2. Now what's left. Not touching the rest of Sunday. Not touching Tuesday. Wednesday has Seal Team and Swat, and while they do worse than MacGyver on their night, I think they do better in the 7 day total. That leaves Bull and All Rise. They have worse numbers, but they're not action shows so probably a lot cheaper. That leaves only MacGyver.
What I dont get tho is why spend on new sets for just 6 to 8 episodes? And I agree that CBS has never done good promo for this show. I stopped checking Lenkov's accounts because he mostly talked H50 and then Magnum, his true love.
Frankly, since MacGyver started there were those who said it would never last. I would have loved to see Monica Macer's vision play out for a full season.
Personally, I am devastated. I know it's just a tv show, but I started watching at a low point in my life, and that Friday night hour was escape and comfort. I will miss it dearly. I did not watch the og MacGyver, so Lucas is the one for me. I really hope this is a blessing in disguise for him, and his career blossoms.
|Posted by: real_ness 10 April 2021 - 09:40 PM|
Guess you were Dash, their contracts are making it hard to publicly support the efforts.
Saw Tristin on her friend's stories last night at a party like she was putting on a brave face
|Posted by: real_ness 10 April 2021 - 09:42 PM|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 11 April 2021 - 01:25 AM|
According to several fans, Justin stated during his live-watch on Patreon that CBS said the cancellation was for financial reasons, but that they weren't sure if that's the only reason and still puzzling over it.
While I do think money is one reason, I'm still not sure why they bothered with the back-order in S4 then. They could have cut the budget in half while ordering half seasons. Or maybe not having 30 producers attached to it . The production costs for S5 couldn't have been that much bigger than for S4, though.
If they really wanted to keep it but run out of room on the schedule, they could have either pushed it to the CW or to Paramount Plus. Maybe they only wanted to keep it going to reach syndication, and that's why they agreed for more episodes in S5 than just to make it a short season with the leftover episodes from S4.
The cast is approving of the fans efforts, though. Both Henry Ian Cusick and Justin used the "SaveMacGyver" hashtag while tweeting and others keep liking or retweeting posts that use the hashtag.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 11 April 2021 - 01:43 AM|
I think that's why I feel for the cast. Lucas (and others) went through a lot of hardship while making this show and I would have loved for them to get to make at least a full season with the new team after all those changes.
They might have started filming late, but contrary to most other CBS shows, they were also never officially shut down due to covid on set. And they somehow still navigated through all that mess. And got barely any love by CBS who keeps promoting all their shows excessively - especially failing "Clarice" with atrocious ratings - while forgetting their Friday shows).
Some fans tweet that we deserve another season, but I think it's cast and crew that deserve a few more episodes to finish up the way they had intended. The season was never really "theirs", because the writers and the showrunner had to put all the broken pieces together before being able to start doing their own thing.
Someone told me that the episode MAC501 (that should have Murdoc in it) was rewritten completely about 3 times due to difficulties with covid and David not being able to travel (he had to film an episode of "The Flash" up in Canada) when production was stalled again for another two months. I'd love to get more infos about those first script ideas but at this moment, I'm just happy if we ever get a Season 4 DVD
While money and lower ratings sure are valid reasons for a cancellation, I can't help to think that they simply wanted to put the lid on this show since the lead actor was responsible for Lenkov finally being fired.
|Posted by: BabyEinstein 11 April 2021 - 04:19 AM|
|The Lenkov mess was unfortunate, and it's too bad Lucas was the only one with the guts and moral fiber to say something. But if that's a reason, why not announce it earlier? NCISNO knew in February and interestingly they also had a similar situation with showrunner. To wait til the very end is just not right. They could have said we wanted to air the six filmed episodes and give a concluding season. I assume the actors all have their thoughts, but CBS acted horribly here.|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 11 April 2021 - 01:22 PM|
| The #SaveMacGyver movement is making the news
‘MacGyver’ Fans Launch Petition To Save Show From Cancellation
By BRENT FURDYK
Fans of “MacGyver” are not taking news of the show’s cancellation lying down.
One fan of the hit CBS reboot — which has maintained a solid audience of about 6 million viewers each week — is actually doing something.
“Help us #SaveMacGyver and renew it for season 6,” writes fan Aria D in the Change.org petition she launched, seeking “a final hurrah” with one more season.
“‘MacGyver’ is a beloved show that has been running on CBS for five years. It has had strong ratings and great storylines for five seasons. The cast is amazing and extremely diverse but for some reason CBS has decided to cancel it in spite of it winning them the Friday night lineup for weeks in a row,” she writes.
“It is a show that has defied the odds among challenges of lack of promotion, a Frankenstein season and showrunner changes. The new showrunner, one of the few women showrunners in the industry has not been able to fully show her creativity in only seven episodes,” the petition continues.
“There was so much more about to be explored. But it was just snatched away for no apparent reason. If there is anything we fans have learnt from this show is that WE DON’T GO DOWN WITHOUT A FIGHT,” adds the petition, which at time of writing has acquired nearly 6,300 of the 7,500 signatures sought.
“We don’t want cliffhangers or a half-done finale or 15 episodes,” the petition asks. “We deserve a happy ending. Our favourite characters do and so do the amazing cast and crew… A dedicated fandom whose favourite show deserves a farewell.”
Meanwhile, there’s also a different petition asking Netflix to rescue the show in the same way the streamer brought new life to network TV series “Arrested Development”, “Lucifer” and “Designated Survivor” after their respective cancellations.
Following the CBS announcement that the network wasn’t picking up “MacGyver” for a sixth season, star Lucas Till took to Instagram to share his appreciation to the fans who’ve kept the show on the air for all these years.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 11 April 2021 - 02:05 PM|
|Looks like Tristin approves|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 11 April 2021 - 02:35 PM|
| via https://www.forbes.com/sites/marcberman1/2021/04/11/fans-create-petitions-to-save-macgyver-after-cbs-cancellation/
Fans Create Petitions To Save ‘MacGyver’ After CBS Cancellation
Never underestimate the power of the fans when their favorite TV series are canceled.
Historically, and before the advent of social media, the importance of the fans of any series was clearly visible when NBC canceled the original Star Trek after two seasons. The year was 1968 and the series received a last minute third season pickup after the fans initiated a letter writing campaign. Naturally, Star Trek never really “ended”, and that additional season, thanks to the audience, could have been instrumental to the ongoing interest in the franchise.
CBS crime solver Cagney & Lacey in 1983 is another example pre-social media of a series saved by a letter writing campaign. The result was a third season reprieve in midseason (and, ultimately, an additional four seasons in production plus four made-for television movies).
More recent was CBS sci-fi drama Jericho in 2007, when the fans sent mountains of nuts to the network in support of the series after the network opted against a second season (in reference to the first season-ender). Fans of Arrested Development sent Fox executives fake bananas in reference to the banana stand on the sitcom They also created website SaveOurBluths.com. And, in 2016, a robust letter writing campaign following ABC’s cancellation of drama Nashville after four seasons resulted in an additional two seasons on cable net CMT.
Countless other primetime TV series (animated comedies Family Guy and Futurama; dramedy Chuck; and dramas Veronica Mars, Lucifer, Timeless, and Sense8, to name a few) received a new lease in lease after the fans spoke out.
Now, following the surprise axing by CBS of its reboot of action/adventure MacGyver after five seasons, is a change.org petition urging the network to “Save MacGyver.” The petition is asking CBS and everyone who is responsible for canceling the show to renew it for season six. And, should CBS not reverse course, fans are asking other outlets to keep it in production.
A separate petition is directed for Netflix to pick up the series, which it has done in the past following the cancellations of Arrested Development, Designated Survivor, and Lucifer.
Right now, MacGyver is slated to officially end on CBS on Friday, April 30. A total of 94 episodes produced means there is more than enough for off-network syndication. But in this age of social media, where every individual has a voice, chances of MacGyver being picked up elsewhere are certainly not out of the question. If dramas like Star Trek and Cagney & Lacey can find a new lease in life when the notion of Twitter, Facebook and Instagram was non-existent, the odds could be stacked in favor of another outlet stepping forward for MacGyver.
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 12 April 2021 - 02:19 AM|
| Surprised they don't mention Magnum PI which originally ended after season 7 but the fans wanted him to live on to fight another day and an 8th season was made.
Interesting to see that the fifth season will end on the exact same date as the fifth season of the original show.
I'm just a little bit worried that if Netflix do pick it up there won't be any dvd-release.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 12 April 2021 - 02:32 AM|
True. Also, for me it would be difficult to catch it on any of those streaming sites (e.g. Hulu) that aren't available here. We only have Netflix in Switzerland for a few years now and they don't have the same catalogue as US (or Germany), either.
But even if the chances aren't good for CBS to uncancel it, it's nice to show them that we're not backing down and accepting quietly. MacGyver always rooted for the underdogs.
And as long as Lucas Till doesn't say he quit voluntarily, its worth fighting for it after all that sh... he (and the rest of the cast and crew) had to go through to give us new episodes.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 12 April 2021 - 09:37 AM|
| Another article: https://screenrant.com/macgyver-reboot-show-fan-campaign-season-6-renewal/
Fans Campaign To Save MacGyver & Get It Renewed For Season 6
Following its recent cancellation, fans mount a campaign to save the reboot series MacGyver and encourage CBS to renew it for season 6.
BY REBECCA VANACKER
After its recent cancellation, fans are campaigning for CBS to renew MacGyver for season 6. The action series stars Lucas Till as Angus "Mac" MacGyver, who takes an unconventional approach to besting criminals as a secret government agent. MacGyver is a reboot of the 1985-1992 TV show of the same name. The current version premiered in 2016. It's been a fairly steady performer for CBS since, alongside fellow reboot shows Hawaii Five-0 and Magnum P.I. Though critical reception has been more mixed, MacGyver has a passionate fanbase nonetheless.
Unfortunately for viewers, last week came the news MacGyver season 5, which is currently airing, will be the show's last. Like the majority of TV series, MacGyver has felt the impacts of the coronavirus pandemic over the last year. Season 4 ended early with 13 episodes, with some held for season 5. Even with those extras, the now final season will be 15 episodes long, putting both seasons 4 and 5 well below the 20+ episodes each of the first three seasons featured. The series finale is now set to air Friday, April 30.
However, some MacGyver fans are hoping that won't be the end of the show after all. One, Aria D, started a Change.org petition calling for signers to "Help us #SaveMacGyver and renew it for season 6." The petition cites the show's support of diversity and asks specifically for "one last season" in order to give MacGyver a satisfactory ending. As of this writing, the petition has just over 8,000 signatures with a goal of 10,000. Fans have also gotten #SaveMacGyver to trend on Twitter and sent CBS nearly 200,000 paperclips, which are often associated with the show.
Though a season 6 renewal for MacGyver seems unlikely at this time, stranger things have certainly happened. At one time, a cancellation was the guaranteed end of a show, but that's not the case anymore. With more streamers and cable networks than ever before, cancelled series have more of a chance to be picked up elsewhere. That's happened with several shows in the last few years, including Brooklyn Nine-Nine and One Day at a Time.
In this case, MacGyver fans are targeting CBS specifically to renew the series, which seems like a smart play. Networks are sometimes moved by passionate viewers, such as NBC with its beloved spy dramedy Chuck, which was helped by a fan mounted campaign to buy subs from the show's sponsor Subway. It's also worth noting those signing the petition are primarily focused on a season 6 renewal rather than MacGyver coming back indefinitely. With the series finale only a couple of weeks away, it's understandable fans are concerned it won't be a satisfying conclusion for the show. Though not likely, it's certainly possible CBS will take this under consideration and rethink MacGyver's cancellation.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 13 April 2021 - 05:32 AM|
|The Petition reached 10'000 signatures yesterday (currently at 11'300): https://www.change.org/p/cbs-save-macgyver|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 13 April 2021 - 10:25 AM|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 14 April 2021 - 01:15 PM|
| Looks like they already cleaning house...
|Posted by: Dragondog 15 April 2021 - 02:45 AM|
|It's too bad. I was hoping it would hit two more seasons. One to wrap up the remaining storylines before ending, and one to spite the people who keep acting to this day like this show is the AntiChrist|
|Posted by: real_ness 15 April 2021 - 03:40 AM|
People like Tristin who don't live in ATL have to pack and move too
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 15 April 2021 - 03:40 AM|
Yes. Also, it feels so unfair to the cast and crew. Lucas risked his career to get Lenkov gone, they filmed with a complete new team during a freaking pandemic, and all they got was 8.5 episodes to film after being cancelled just 9 months after Lenkov got fired.
What was the point of the back-up order in Season 4? What was the point in hiring a new showrunner and complete new team just to get it cancelled anyway? Especially after all those talk about being more diverse and hiring a non-white showrunner and a non-white writers team; implementing all new recurring POC and LGBT+ characters this season? Did they get "too woke" for CBS with starting storylines about racism, police violence and the like?
I'm not one for conspiracy theories. And money is a valid reason to cancel a show. But this cancellation will never not feel fishy to me.
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 15 April 2021 - 02:43 PM|
|I hope we can save it|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 15 April 2021 - 03:04 PM|
It's not easy, but I hope so too.
I agree that the show has a lot of flaws. It just feels so unfair to the cast and crew. Lucas risked his career to get Lenkov gone, plus they filmed with a complete new team during a freaking pandemic and that's the "reward".
Also, I don't want to give Lenkov the satisfaction being able to witness the show getting cancelled after only 8 episodes after his exit (though half of these episodes still had to deal with storylines set up by him).
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 16 April 2021 - 01:38 AM|
Agreed. I always wondered if they would get to 7 seasons. With another 45 episodes they would've had the same amount of episodes as the original show. 47 if you count the tv-movies.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 16 April 2021 - 01:54 AM|
I think most of the LA-based crew left the day after wrapping. They probably rented an apartement or lived in a hotel.
The Georgia-based crew seems to work on the new Disney show now.
|Posted by: real_ness 16 April 2021 - 05:46 AM|
Just how "expensive" did the show get after 9 months and 8 episodes???
|Posted by: real_ness 16 April 2021 - 05:50 AM|
I always thought the show had a time limit or was setup to not last long, because of their show naming strategy of ( [# of season word in title count] + [# of season word in title count] .... etc) . Just how many season could there be sticking with this...
Also CBS is saving face now because of the press and movements to look like they were wrong hurts them.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 16 April 2021 - 09:24 AM|
| Even Mama Colton wants to #SaveMacGyver
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 17 April 2021 - 05:05 AM|
| kinda ironic that CBS is restructuring for inclusion and diversity yet cancels MacGyver that just introduced so many diverse actors and characters this season.
If the show was too expensive, they still could have renewed it with a tighter budget. I'm sure they would have found a way to write cheaper episodes with less stunts and location changes. Even if it was just for a last, shortened season.
So far, CBS hasn't announced a midseason schedule, either. That would really irk me if they kept airing reruns (they usually drop a show completely off schedule after it aired the Series Finale).
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 17 April 2021 - 09:54 AM|
| Again if the cast was demanding more money in theory the only person you need to give more money too is Lucas beyond that the rest of the cast can be replaced if need be...
So sorry I am asking the dumb questions but can the show be saved? Or at the very least could this lead to perhaps a film series after all a successful spy show turning into a successful film series isn’t unheard of (mission impossible and well Star Trek isn’t a spy show well you get the idea)
True tv shows turning into films is much like video games turning into films but it’s not unheard of....
I am just trying to not only make sense of it but see if there is some glimmer of hope.
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 17 April 2021 - 01:45 PM|
Not exactly true. If you replace the cast whether it's with whole new characters or actors taking over other peoples roles, you might end up with a whole different kind of dynamic. It might totally lose the chemistry Lucas has with everybody. You can't just replace Tristin for example with somebody else because they are cheaper. That just won't work.
|Posted by: real_ness 17 April 2021 - 09:54 PM|
|Haven't heard anything about a contract dispute even from people or press "in the know" yet, so I won't go down that rabbidhole (yes I spelt that correctly) until I hear something.|
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 18 April 2021 - 06:00 AM|
Trust me I love Tristin Mays she is my new celebrity crush that I can thank this show for (if only she had a music career lol) but I watch Macgyver for well Macgyver I mean could season 8 of the original series happened without Dana sure would it of been different yes but would most have enjoyed it yup.
Again I just am looking for two things
1. A reason why
2. And a glimmer of hope for the future
I plan on posting a longer post on this subject but to give a cliff notes version after waiting from 1994- really 2016 (though someone could make the argument for 2012 as the return of Macgyver with the comic and the mobile game and the commercial) but it was a long road no matter what year you put and yeah I am just not ready for another what 20 gap between this show and another possible reboot
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 18 April 2021 - 06:10 AM|
I don't know much about property laws in TV land. In theory yes, it can be saved.
But easiest way would be if CBS saved it themselves. According to Justin Hires, they were given the costs as a reason. If they really wanted to save it, they could have just shoved it to the CW and cut the budget, but they didn't. So we don't know if there's not another reason behind the scenes.
Lucifer was saved when FOX cancelled it. But the rights didn't belong to FOX but WB that sold it to Netflix.
I'm not sure how willing CBS/Paramount is to sell the rights if; especially if they want to hold on to the rights for the OG show still. Also, the rights belong partially to OG creator Lee David Zlotoff.
In theory, it can be saved, but I don't think it will come easy and I'm not sure that can happen overnight unless CBS decides to "uncancel" it. If it is saved by another network, it still could take a while for them to re-start filming. There would be new contracts to make for the cast and that would need to happen before they're already busy with other projects.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 18 April 2021 - 06:16 AM|
| The Petition reached 15'000 signatures on Friday (currently at 16'444+): https://www.change.org/p/cbs-save-macgyver
Tell your friends about it! Even if it's not easy to save a show, it might help show CBS and other networks that there's an interest. Also, good motivation for cast and crew.
Even if we don't get another season, it could help in sparking other merch, books or better DVD extras. "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" didn't get another Season, but they continued Season 8 as Graphic Novel. If CBS realizes there's interest for more (no matter the Reboot or the OG show), they might try to monetize it. For example, finally release the OG show on BluRay.
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 18 April 2021 - 12:37 PM|
|Telling everyone I know to sign it|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 19 April 2021 - 01:40 AM|
| Last night shenanigans
'MacGyver' Fans Are Hijacking the ACM Awards on Twitter to Save the Show
By DANIEL S. LEVINE - April 18, 2021 10:40 pm EDT
MacGyver fans continue to hope they can convince CBS to reverse its decision to cancel the reboot after five seasons earlier this month. On Sunday night, some tried to get #SaveMacGyver trending on Twitter while the eye network broadcast the ACM Awards live from Nashville. MacGyver debuted in 2016 and its series finale will air on Friday, April 30.
Since the show was canceled, fans have repeatedly pressed CBS on social media to reverse its decision. A Change.org petition now has over 16,000 signatures. When CBS announced a wave of renewals last week, fans again asked CBS to renew MacGyver as well.
Some fans added #SaveMacGyver to tweets even if the majority of their tweet was in response to the ACM Awards. Others found unique ways to work the hashtag in.
"MacGyver also highlights that it is possible for those of different races and backgrounds to work together for a common goal," one person wrote. "Hey [CBS] and #ACMs if you're tired of seeing #MacGyver on all your posts, then CBS needs to renew the show for season six," another wrote.
MacGyver airs on CBS Fridays at 8 p.m. ET. You can find past episodes available to stream on Paramount+.
And now for the fun part:
Disclosure: PopCulture is owned by CBS Interactive, a division of ViacomCBS.
|Posted by: Jediferret 19 April 2021 - 05:43 AM|
| Ooof... that sucks the reboot is getting canceled...
I know I wasn't the biggest fan of the reboot or its biggest supporter, but I do feel like that show and the cast got crapped on more than they deserved. I kinda left it alone as it's not the first time one of my favorite franchises got rebooted and split the fanbase.
I hope the reboot gets a new season for you guys!
|Posted by: Slater 19 April 2021 - 11:06 AM|
|What are the odds that the show could get picked up by another network?|
|Posted by: Jediferret 19 April 2021 - 12:48 PM|
|Honestly, in my opinion, the show would be better off it was picked up by like... Netflix or something. CBS isn't known for showing much love to the MacGyver franchise, even with the original. =P|
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 20 April 2021 - 04:02 AM|
If it gets picked up by Netflix the chances are pretty likely there won't be a dvd release. Then someone else decide when you will be able to watch it. I'm not sure if we are willing submit to the whims of that person. I for one know I won't. I want to be able to watch it when I want whenever I want.
You will always have that. The fans will ALWAYS complain when their favorite character is not played by the original actor and will consider something bad because of it. That's unfortunately the shortsightedness of every fandom.
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 21 April 2021 - 03:10 AM|
CBS has always been bad with these things I recall the original Star Trek had similar issues and that is their biggest money maker...
Any word yet on cbs reversing their decision?
|Posted by: RYERSON 21 April 2021 - 07:40 AM|
| Wasn’t surprised. Once Jack left, the show lost its way..
Not meaning to sound disrespectful, but Lucas wasn’t an actor who could command a screen presence as a lead actor. Those that remember RDA, from the OG show, will understand what I mean. I would add however, that Lucas worked extremely hard over the seasons, and grew into his leading role. But that said, the first and second season worked because of the great double act of Lucas and George.
Where it lost it way... was in the writing. George Eads character overnight went from being the cool muscle man to Incompetent and stupid Ross Gellagher from Friends (season 4 & onwards) with no clear direction. I sensed in season 2, Eads resisting his character going in this direction, and ultimately decided to leave because, he didn’t like his silly character role.
Also, the show had no clear direction. Season 1 was mysterious alright, the setup to looking for Mac’s dad. That was good. But, Seasons 2 the writers setup all these clues, to eventually have the audience learn Daddy was never missing at all but actually working and running the Phoenix (where Mac works). I have to admit, I felt like Mac, when he left annoyed at end of season 2. Cos I had invested all this time in that mystery - and there was this anti-climax at end.
But for me, I got pee’d off when they kept killing off all the great characters (The Ghost, Jill, Helmen, Aunty Gwen, I could go on). Murdoc was even a disappointment. Loved the actor, but he wasn’t ever menacing enough or seen to be murderous (like Micheal des barres OG version). I also hated (HATED) that he was always captured 3 out 4 times, by phoenix.
As soon as I heard CSI: Vegas had been green-lit. I was convinced MacGyver was going to be axed.
They will rest the show now for approx 5 to 10 years now, and reboot it again. And the sad things is, they won’t have learn’t from these mistakes.
|Posted by: BabyEinstein 21 April 2021 - 08:40 AM|
| This reboot was supposed to be about a 20 something home from war, not a 35-40 year old established character. (Lucas even said if Peter wanted a 35 yr old he should have hired one) Personally, I loved how Lucas and George worked together, and how this MacGyver was developing. It was a sad day when George left. I think Desi was poorly introduced, and seemed to be contrary to the family feels of the show. I blame the original showrunner for the direction the show took. He never really cared imo and turned it over to Matalas S4. He also wanted that triangle which was not necessary.
For me, Lucas is MacGyver, (to be fair I've not seen the og) and I do believe if given the chance, Monica would have done a lot of positive things with the characters. I think CBS treated the show poorly, and the fans disrespectfully. They could have announced a midseason final season to wrap things up, instead of 3 weeks before the end and dare use words like respect. It's baffling, because MacGyver is the most diverse before and behind the camera with decent ratings for Friday especially. CBS should stop giving lip service to inclusion. But then, the network is so proud of itself the next NCIS will have a female lead. I wonder how many NCIS and FBI shows there ultimately will be
|Posted by: Avilos 21 April 2021 - 06:34 PM|
| I have total respect for fans on this new show. I saw a few episodes and realized it was not for me. That is fine. All the old episodes still exist. It’s always disappointing when a show we like is canceled but it happens all the time.
I pop in here once in a while to see what is happening with the show. Curious if anything would motivate me to watch. Even just an episode or two. Have no idea why CBS cancelled the show.
But I just want to be blunt - Television is often is very disrespectful to its fans. Maybe the worst media format in how it treats fans. This is nothing new. You watch a show and get attached to its characters. Maybe for year after year...
Than they cancel shows. With no warning or reason. No Obligation to resolve story. Than they move on to new shows. It really sucks! I have been there. Too many of my favorite shows were canceled. Even with cliffhangers with that are never resolved.
I am not at all trying be a jerk. But I would waste time try to figure out theirs reasons. My minor speculation is the pandemic actually gave it longer life than if that did not happen. They stuck with existing shows because it would be harder to launch new series in the middle. Often series are cancelled because networks think the ratings have hit a plateau. Meaning no significant change. It road on name recognition in first few years. Ratings lowered, happens to most shows. Now the network is greedy and wants to see if something else will do better than core fan base.
I know a lot about the CW shows. Supergirl moved from CBS because it had the same producer Greg Berlanti as the other superhero shows on CW, Arrow and The Flash. It probably should have been there all along. But even than doing that meant the show had to move production from Los Angeles to Vancouver. Also lost Calista Flockhart as a regular cast member. She did not want to move away from her family to Canada. I could never imagine that happening with Macgyver. Especially now. Any American actor who guests on a show produced in Canada needs to be in quarantine for 2 weeks once they arrive before working. Imagine doing that with a whole cast and crew. Even if offered some might not want to move at all.
Good luck. Maybe a I am wrong. Networks like to try new things and throw out current shows to do it. That is how they have always operated.
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 22 April 2021 - 11:32 AM|
Um, Eads left because he didn't wanted to be away from his family for so long. It had nothing to do with the show as far as i know.
|Posted by: BabyEinstein 22 April 2021 - 03:59 PM|
|I think publicly the reason was George wanted to be with his daughter. Interesting that as soon as he left he went to Korea to make a film (Gensari I believe with Megan Fox). There were also rumors of on set arguments, whether with writers or Peter I dont know, and he apparently stormed off one day before filming was done. In any case, there were problems on set, and I'm sure we will never know the whole story. Whatever the case, the bromance left with him.|
|Posted by: real_ness 23 April 2021 - 03:07 AM|
|Also he did the same with the original CSI (departing out the blue), for whatever reason was used that time. So he has a history of hauling tail mid-season.|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 23 April 2021 - 03:54 AM|
I doubt filming in Korea is put together that fast. He must have been attached for quite some time and CBS was informed. I think he filmed his scenes in less than a week. With his reduced schedule in Season 3 (missing out every 4th episode), he must have planned it that way and it would have worked out fine.
|Posted by: Slater 23 April 2021 - 02:49 PM|
|Guess it's too late to have an "FBI/MacGyver" tie-in episode. Seems like the FBI would find Phoenix's resources quite helpful.|
|Posted by: real_ness 23 April 2021 - 08:00 PM|
I couldn't see that. The tiein shows with Mac worked because they were in the lenkoverse. Those 27963 FBI shows they have now are on an island somewhere creatively.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 24 April 2021 - 12:21 AM|
In theory, they could still write in one of the characters (similar to H50-actor Jorge Garcia showing up as his H50-character in Episode 5x08), but I doubt they would do that. I think the Magnum writers room is the only one that would bother because they had their offices right next to each other and some of them are friends with each other.
|Posted by: Avilos 24 April 2021 - 05:39 AM|
The original Star Trek was on NBC. CBS had nothing to do with its cancellation.
That was in the 1960s. Star Trek was produced by Desilu Productions but aired on NBC. It was not until later Desilu was sold and became part of Paramount Television. Which eventually merged with CBS. At a certain point of all the television shows owned by this combination of many different companies became labeled “CBS” and under their control.
It’s more complicated than even that and very confusing. Perfect example is the original Macgyver it aired on ABC. Back than it was very common for networks to air shows produced by outside studios. Not producing most of the series they aired themselves. But now that there has been all these corporate mergers - everything in the Entertainment business is owned by a small number of companies. So now the networks air stuff that they mostly own. Even if they have no history with its predecessor.
CBS had no history with MacGyver before current version . It’s just a property it owns because the original was produced by Paramount Television. Unlike Hawaii Five-O and Magnum PI whose original shows did air CBS. So those remakes are more at home.
No offense to fans of this new show - that is part of the reason many of the fans of the original show had a hard time excepting it. CBS had no history with MacGyver. They took something they bought and changed it to match the styles of their other shows. Having no history with the show probably partially explains its cancellation too. They have no loyalty to it.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 24 April 2021 - 05:40 AM|
CBS has a lot of older and expensive shows. CBS cancelling NCIS: NO while setting up NCIS: Hawaii suggests cost cutting since it's essentially the same show with a presumably cheaper cast in a cheaper location.
According to Deadline, the NCIS: LA renewal hinged on renewing leading actor contracts aka take a pay cut or be cancelled. SEAL Team not being renewed yet suggests they are haggling with pay cuts there as well.
Also, lower-rated shows that were renewed (e.g. SWAT) are co-financed by another network. Magnum PI has a bigger audience, but the demo ratings is basically the same as MacGyver. It's also co-financed.
Generally, it seems like CBS is more willing to axe shows that are produced in-house if they don't get a golden syndication deal (e.g. Scorpion).
While Justin Hires said CBS told them MacGyver was cancelled due to financial reasons, there's still the possibility of CBS simply axing it because now it doesn't look as suspicious as if they had axed it directly after the Lenkov debacle - especially with Bull being renewed despite CBS paying 10 millions to keep a harrassment scandal under wraps (that came out anyway). With those 10 millions, they could have paid another 5 episodes for MacGyver. It also implicitly states that you get punished for standing up against bullying.
Shows get cancelled all the time, but it's a bitter pill in MacGyver's case; no matter if you're a fan of the show or not.
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 25 April 2021 - 11:27 AM|
| I love Macgyver both new and old the pain here is there is no silver lining and before someone says oh we will get a reboot in ten years I have been following Mac and the creation of this show for a while
In 2000 we had the first rumors of a macgyver movie
In 2003 we got the rumbling confirmation and casting of Macgyver 2003 (known here as young Macgyver) but then nothing the pilot has been leaked but the show was never picked up
2004-2015 we had so many false hopes we had 2 decent commercials and a great comic book series (and a decent mobile game) but that is it
Until one fall day when a writer from NCIS was apparently going to write a new Macgyver show with I believe Peter Lenkov producing and then it came too the show we have now
Honestly I don’t want to go back to the development hell that we had to trudge through in those years of nothing
Again if we had
The original series 1985-1992
TV movies 1994-1996 (yes I know only two were done in 94 but I would love a third one in 96 with murdoc as the villain)
Macgyver 2003-2008 (sequel series with Jared Paladacki as Clay Macgyver
Macgyver 2016-2021 (reboot series)
Along with a series of novels comic books and video games
Yeah I would be sad but we would be taking about the new novel or the new video game or thinking yeah we will get another eventually or maybe a movie for once with Lucas as Mac
But no we had development hell really from 1995-2016 that is 21 years guys I don’t want to be in my 50’s when the next macgyver comes out (34 now)
|Posted by: real_ness 26 April 2021 - 04:54 AM|
Not to mention CBS KNOWS how to fight for a series.
Recently, the Equalizer franchise with Denzel was trending alot, that might have to do with viewers thinking he was the better one at the franchise over Queen Latifah's version. All of a sudden the promo for her's got turned up several notches as of late on social media. The results of whatever unsatisfactory standing it has is directly tied to their efforts at CBS
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 26 April 2021 - 09:14 PM|
| You think Victorinox will sponsor us another season now?
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 26 April 2021 - 09:36 PM|
|Posted by: Maclover 27 April 2021 - 12:02 AM|
| This is a shame.
It took me a while to get into, and in the finish I had to accept it was a different show, there was no other way around it these were different characters. The hardest character to accept the change to, I felt, was Jack. He went from a character in TOS that cropped up every now and then and appeared rather bumbling at times, to a mainstream, hands-on character of skill and talent. Some of the females in the TOS were often a bit a comic afterthought too - after-all there was no 'Penny' in the new show. Females in the reboot were talented, stand on their own two feet, modern written female leads. The show also had a totally modern feel.
The difference between the TOS and the reboot was almost like the difference between the music of the Beatles in the 1960's and modern music - if you listen to the general 'feel' of the different music genres early music almost sounds 'empty' as though there is not as much going on - there are less instruments involved and less notes being played, the earlier music almost feels less complex than more recent material. There is the same difference IMO in the two MacGyver shows. RDA's shows seem to have less going on in every shot, some of the new shows have been very complex in comparison (a bit like a CGI superhero movie assaulting the senses) in terms of what goes on in each shot visually. I guess it was done to cater for modern audience expectation. For me, this made comparisons very different, and I don't think it is fair to compare the two shows. Whilst I've been enjoying the new shows I've found that many of the episodes have been very difficult to follow with such fast paced action and different locations and some have taken more than one viewing to work out the entire storyline. This was never the case with TOS. Which I think I still prefer.
However, I can't deny that I've enjoyed the new shows, to the point that we've seen them in the UK the cast seem to have gelled (after the initial getting used to each other that every new show goes through). The cast have given it their all, its been slick, well done and I was more impressed than I expected to be. It would have been nice for the writers to have had the cancellation predicted much more in advance though so they could have wrapped up story lines - it's never good when things end abruptly (think the new Knight Rider series - so many loose ends there). I hope for the fans and actors that the producers relent and give us a few more episodes at least to do that, but I must admit, when it was first proposed I did wonder whether as a concept it would even last more than one or two series, so to go to five it exceeded my expectation of the concept of rebooting such a legend. To me its a different show, but has proved more than enjoyable despite my expectations and I'm sorry to hear it's been shelved without giving everyone at least a chance to tie up loose ends.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 29 April 2021 - 09:02 AM|
|Video Screenshot via https://www.instagram.com/p/COQTknqHgXe/|
|Posted by: real_ness 29 April 2021 - 11:33 AM|
|It must be hard for those involved can't really say what they wanna say|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 29 April 2021 - 02:43 PM|
looks like the contracts are up; considering the main cast started posting about it?
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 29 April 2021 - 02:44 PM|
|Another digital billboard is up in Phoenix, Arizona: https://twitter.com/MinaRose89/status/1387898432388362240|
|Posted by: MacGyverGod 30 April 2021 - 01:03 AM|
|Posted by: real_ness 30 April 2021 - 01:36 AM|
Something else lasted one season was tristin and jesse lol. I'm sure them being together got him the cameo. They were done by the time it aired, now they're not even friends anymore.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 30 April 2021 - 02:15 AM|
Casting is a time-consuming process; so it's pretty much standard for the cast and crew recommending other actors and crew members to come on board.
I'm sure Frank Whaley (1x14) got the part because Lucas worked with him on "Monsters Truck". Same goes for Mike Milligan, who is friends and lives with Lucas in the same house. He might also had the idea to get Robert Patrick (5x08). Lance Gross (Billy Colton) has been friends with Tristin for years before he got the role. And Peter Weller (Mason/Director) is best friends with Lenkov.
I find Kate Bond (Jill) getting a recurring role much more questionable, even though she did a good job - she is married to David Slack, one of the writers/producers (Seasons 1-2). As soon as he got dropped, her character got killed. Coincidence? I doubt it.
|Posted by: real_ness 30 April 2021 - 04:06 AM|
In the same house he lives in with his wife and family?
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 30 April 2021 - 04:28 AM|
as far as I know, Lucas and his brother Nick live with their friend Mike Milligan in the same house and neither of them are married or have kids...
but it's not like I'm in the know since I'm not friends with them
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 30 April 2021 - 07:45 AM|
|Posted by: Slater 30 April 2021 - 08:58 AM|
|I guess "Phoenix" is appropriate|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 30 April 2021 - 09:05 AM|
there should be one up in Atlanta soon. would be cool if Lucas got to see it in "real life" instead of on a photo.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 30 April 2021 - 02:01 PM|
|video screenshot via Levy Tran: https://www.instagram.com/p/COTUqIFneIg/|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 30 April 2021 - 02:05 PM|
|Posted by: real_ness 30 April 2021 - 09:18 PM|
Wait, I thought Lucas had/has a wife and at least one child? Did I hear wrong?
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 30 April 2021 - 09:32 PM|
You're probably thinking of George Eads (Jack Dalton). He has an ex wife and a daughter.
|Posted by: real_ness 30 April 2021 - 09:59 PM|
So he's a single pringle. Mmk.
|Posted by: Krug 30 April 2021 - 10:04 PM|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 1 May 2021 - 12:27 AM|
Now that the contracts are up, I hope for more people to spill the beans.
Though I understand if they don't. As long as they want to stay in the business, it's probably not wise to. Kudos to Matt though.
Also, I share his opinion. They had a rough gem and handled it carelessly since... right from the start, really.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 1 May 2021 - 08:39 AM|
| no thank you for Monica Macer?
|Posted by: real_ness 1 May 2021 - 09:39 PM|
I appreciate his candor completely, and I even agree with him. But I realized he has a different level of risk as he's just a stand-in AND there was a time he wasn't even working of his own reasons, so he can do without the job apparently.
|Posted by: real_ness 5 May 2021 - 10:55 AM|
| So Micheal Des Barres (the original Murdoc) think the Mac bird has flown.
Honestly, I see why he says that. Knowing the industry and how against the odds it is for that show to come back (the ownership situation, how many shows actually don't come back vs. what does, etc.), he might have a front row seat for that.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 5 May 2021 - 01:11 PM|
|the petition hit 26'000 signatures today|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 6 May 2021 - 01:01 PM|
| even the NCIS actors want to save MacGyver
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 6 May 2021 - 03:03 PM|
| how long until CBS tells the actors to stop encouraging the MacGyver fans?
|Posted by: real_ness 7 May 2021 - 10:19 AM|
| How much of the decision to pull the plug was because of the threat of them losing that lawsuit, and them not wanting share any profits as opposed to doing it right after when it would look suspicious?
And I just saw an old interview with Tristin detailing verbally how she managed to get her parents moved to Atlanta for her and the show last year 😔
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 7 May 2021 - 02:56 PM|
Not at all, would be my guess.
The lawsuit sounds like a joke. It's whole premise is that the reboot is actually a continuation of the original show and therefor their original contract still stands with CBS.
CBS' response to it is...
a) We've never heard of you and certainly have no contract with you.
b) It's a reboot not a continuation of the original show so even if we had heard of you before and did have a contract with you, it's wouldn't matter.
|Posted by: Slater 7 May 2021 - 03:57 PM|
|Wonder what's next for the cast?|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 8 May 2021 - 12:33 AM|
CBS actors have a tendency to pop up in other CBS shows, but I have a feeling that might not be the case anytime soon for the MacGyver cast.
I hope they have some projects lined up soon. Justin Hires is back to comedy stand-up shows.
I know Henry Ian Cusick has a movie coming out soon that he filmed in Hawaii before they started filming for Season 5. I'm not very excited though because Lenkov is attached as producer
Maybe that's how they got to know each other and Lenkov brought him over to MacGyver...
Oh, and Tate Donovan's pilot for FOX didn't get picked up. So James MacGyver would be available for another season of flashbacks
|Posted by: real_ness 9 May 2021 - 02:33 PM|
|Someone said (2nd hand knowledge here) that someone at paramount+ said they won't know if the show will get picked up again before October. Unless someone make enough sense to change my mind, that honestly sounds like a stall tactic so that hopefully people won't be was as into it by then|
|Posted by: real_ness 9 May 2021 - 02:36 PM|
Justin was on the the TV series Rush Hour on CBS before it got canceled. Although he said he had to audition still.
I honestly see why even after we know what we know Tristin is still friends with lenkov publically. Not biting the hand that can feed you. Even though on his end it's bordering on creepy.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 9 May 2021 - 10:32 PM|
I'm not sure that the people in charge of answering customer calls would be in the know. They would just say what they were told to say anyway.
Also, I doubt that a streaming service would have the same time table like the network? It's not like they have to put together a Fall schedule. Otherwise, they would need to know by May 19 (the Upfronts) when CBS presents their new pick-ups alongside the schedule.
|Posted by: real_ness 10 May 2021 - 12:23 AM|
| Not Sure if this is the correct section, as what's there for what's already aired. But the idea of this would be interesting
Would the nephew have the same Macgyver expertise? How much would he be like Mac? Would the comparisons become too much, off and on screen?
|Posted by: Slater 10 May 2021 - 02:33 AM|
|If the nephew was just a cut-and-paste version of Mac, I'm not sure how well that would have worked out.|
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 10 May 2021 - 03:15 AM|
This is talking about a planned spin-off from 2003.
How can MacGyver have a nephew if he has no brothers or sisters?
Here's the information about this show:
Also I'm not sure how this relates to the reboot?
|Posted by: real_ness 10 May 2021 - 05:06 AM|
Didn't see it having to do with the original either. The sections here seem to only deal with what made air and nothing else. Like I said I don't know if it was the right section
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 11 May 2021 - 03:20 AM|
You must have missed this bit in the description....
"The story would follow the exploits of the original Angus MacGyver’s nephew"
Also it was made in 2003 so I'm not sure why it's suddenly found new life now after all this time. I'm assuming you saw that article mentioning it a few days ago?
There's some other threads here about this if you're interested in what others thought or want some more background.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 11 May 2021 - 05:38 AM|
| I guess CBS has enough paperclips now
|Posted by: real_ness 12 May 2021 - 10:54 AM|
| I don't if this was a win Lucas lol. In your house?
|Posted by: real_ness 13 May 2021 - 01:05 PM|
|It's stuck on my mind how they planned for Desi to just find her fiancee is still alive, her feelings to still be intact after all this time, and to just pick up where they were. Just so they can advance MacRiley... Talk about suspension of disbelief. Where in life do things just "work" like that lol|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 13 May 2021 - 01:27 PM|
I'm not fond of this storyline. To me, they would make the same mistake with Evan as they did with MacDesi. We were supposed to believe them as a couple with them telling us they fell in love and dated for months off-screen.
Now they would just find her fiancé (in theory, they're still together since he never died) and they would probably get back together within one or two episodes. It's difficult to get interested in a new character and to root for couples that way.
|Posted by: Shy175223 13 May 2021 - 01:28 PM|
|I think they did it just please the MacRiley fans which I think it is unfair for the rest of the fandom who don't like to see Mac with Desi or Riley.🤨|
|Posted by: real_ness 13 May 2021 - 04:01 PM|
| When the cast did the reddit thing as part of promotion a few years ago, one of the fans said to Tristin in their question that they were glad she's not the girlfriend to the lead again like she has been in the roles that she's played... Only for that to happen again or would have happened again lol
Edit: somebody posted it on twitter
|Posted by: real_ness 14 May 2021 - 07:55 AM|
Thanks for pointing that out, I managed to see the pilot.
Yeah I read a recent article.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 16 May 2021 - 08:46 AM|
|Atlanta Billboard: https://twitter.com/samrenehart/status/1393644108254613504|
|Posted by: real_ness 17 May 2021 - 01:08 AM|
| Not exclusively about Mac but there is a negative pattern going on at CBS and Mac is caught up in it.
It seems shows at CBS are axed if the employees are vocal about mistreatment from the producers and they are fired. And shows that are worser performing and more expensive get to stick around in one way or another.
I think this is a story that deserves attention from more than just print media and even a deep dive. Any effort to get the media to pick this up I'd appreciate.
Here is a good article: https://cjhawkings.com/savemacgyver-campaign-uncovers-disturbing-pattern-with-shows-being-axed-by-cbs/
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 19 May 2021 - 06:21 AM|
| CBS Fall 2021 schedule is out.
Not sure what they thought with putting CSI Vegas after reality show. Moving NCIS sure was a bold move.
In general, I think the Friday line-up will suffer; especially Magnum.
|Posted by: Slater 19 May 2021 - 06:32 AM|
|The "FBI" series seems to be doing well for them.|
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 19 May 2021 - 06:56 AM|
Surprisingly, they still haven't announced the lead actor for the new FBI: International yet.
And I just realized that SWAT won't stay on Fridays: https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/cbs-fall-2021-schedule-ncis-fbi-csi-1234976357/
Meanwhile, with “CSI: Vegas” taking the Wednesday 10 p.m. slot, “SWAT” moves to Fridays at 8 pm., paired with “Magnum PI” and “Blue Bloods.” But the SWAT move is temporary, as it will permanently switch to Sundays at 10 p.m. later in the fall — after “Seal Team” airs its final CBS episodes on the night.
So after five episodes, they will put some reality show there. I think that will hurt ratings for both Magnum and Blue Bloods. I'm not sure why they didn't just air the 5 episodes of SEAL Team on Fridays then.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 19 May 2021 - 08:40 AM|
| An article about the Phoenix Billboard: https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/arts/save-macgyver-billboard-in-west-phoenix-11555908
The glut of billboards dotting the landscape of metro Phoenix means that we usually don't really notice them anymore.
Except earlier this week, when one caught our eye in west Phoenix.
The sign, located near the Starbucks at 2441 West Thomas Road, reads "#SaveMacGyver." The words are accompanied by a website (savemacgyver.com) and a Swiss Army knife.
The answer is somewhat straightforward: The billboard is one part of a coordinated national campaign to save some people's favorite TV show. If you are over the age of, say, 35, you're likely aware that MacGyver was a 1980s action series starring actor Richard Dean Anderson as Angus "Mac" MacGyver, a government agent who eschews the use of firearms in favor of solving any problem with an assortment of gadgets including paper clips and a Swiss Army Knife.
The original series ended in 1992, but it was rebooted in 2016 with Lucas Till playing the titular character. Fans were glad to see it return — until April 7, when CBS announced it was canceling MacGyver after five seasons.
"Like most 'save' campaigns for TV shows, a petition was the beginning" of #SaveMacGyver, Samantha Sinard writes in an email. Sinard runs the campaign's Facebook page.
The petition has more than 25,000 signatures, but so far, that hasn't been enough to change CBS' mind. So Sinard and her compatriots kicked it up a notch.
"Each day, we send emails to CBS, Viacom, and Paramount+, request the show on Netflix and live chat with their customer support, as well as calling Netflix and Paramount+ about saving the show. Every week we have a new list of campaign-related activities that help keep tweets and morale up. ... We've sent 1.35 million paperclips to CBS Television Studios in Los Angeles," Sinard writes.
The billboards were paid for by a GoFundMe campaign that has raised more than $7,600 so far. There are two billboards in Los Angeles, and one each in New York City, Atlanta, and Phoenix. The signs are slated to stay up through May 30.
"The billboards are our proudest accomplishment and our biggest expense to date," Sinard writes.
Sinard believes that the campaign has the support of the MacGyver cast and crew; many of them have tweeted using the #SaveMacGyver hashtag. And she thinks that the campaign's chances of success are good.
"We are a passionate, devoted, tireless fandom, and in the past those types of fandoms have gotten their shows back — Lucifer, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, and Sanditon, just to name a few. In the past couple of days, CBS has proved they have the ability to move shows from their network to their Paramount+ streaming service if they choose to, because they did it with SEAL Team, Clarice, and Evil. That would be the easiest way to get the show back if they do not want to put it on the network, rather than selling the rights to the show to another network or streamer like Netflix or Hulu," she writes.
If you don't watch MacGyver, you may wonder why its fans are pouring effort, time, and money into saving it.
"When it first started, it was a show about the power of science, math, and technology; families of choice; and how with a little ingenuity and a lot of heart you can make the world a better place," Sinard writes. "As it progressed through the years ... those values remained at the core of what it was about.
"This is one of few shows on television that will ... entertain the whole family with the perfect mix of humor, action, and love. ... There's nothing else like MacGyver out there."
|Posted by: real_ness 20 May 2021 - 06:02 AM|
| We already have CBS boss Kelly Kahl lying like you know what, saying the cancellations for Mac was given ahead of time when it was given while in post-production for the episode. Saying the show wasn't living up to it's timeslot despite winning Friday nights mostly
Not even Solid Waste Management could find so much garbage, and they're in charge of it.
Now we see what we're up against:
1. Execs who are Outright liars
2. Press not wanting to lose exclusives and access from CBS by angering them
3. Bad market practice of not releasing Mac, because if it does well somewhere else they'll look like they made the wrong decision, and the embarrassment from that will make them fight against the idea.
4. And even if they do sell, not selling at a fair price.
I think the cast knows this why they are less supportive and/or publicly messy because they have nothing to lose from them.
|Posted by: DashboardOnFire 20 May 2021 - 01:44 PM|
I think it was the only show getting better ratings compared to last year.
Moving NCIS after 18 years, cancelling NCIS New Orleans, plus that article that mentioned the renewal of NCIS hinged on Mark Harmon being willing to continue, it looks like they're trying to establish FBI as their new franchise to take over from NCIS.
Which also means NCIS might be over soon if Harmon wants out and the ratings drop too much in the new timeslot. The show is probably getting pretty expensive. The new NCIS: Hawaii will be a lot cheaper; but I can see CBS axing it very quickly if the ratings aren't good enough in S1.
|Posted by: MacGyverOnline 21 May 2021 - 02:32 AM|
I have a feeling they might be hoping to reignite CSI to be their top show again. It feels like a soft reboot to me.
|Posted by: real_ness 21 May 2021 - 08:25 PM|
| NOT him using the old show intro because the old show was more about what he's into and less romantic drama lol
I think this might do a lot more than the billboards alone
|Posted by: Macgyver12186 22 May 2021 - 07:44 AM|
I have the full pilot episode to answer your questions
1. Clay had a few interesting personal traits but for the most part was very similar to His uncle
2. Clay was as ingenuitive as his Uncle
3. There was a cute scene where Clay is clearly embarrassed and annoyed by the comparisons to his uncle but when in the field he did introduce home self as Macgyver
Over all everyone I showed the pilot too said it was bad but I thought there was room for growth it likely would of lasted two - three seasons
And I actually began writing some fan fiction about it but I never finished the stories one idea would be a die hard esque even where Murdoc attacked Phoenix foundation during a gala and would have to take on not just Angus but Clay as well
And in terms of Jared much like Lucas till he did some things very similar to RDA but he also add other elements to the role
To be honest it’s ironically the only thing I have seen Jared in apart from half an episode of Supernatural which should be right up my ally but I never really got into it