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Well there were hints I guess. In GX-1 the psychic told MacGyver he would come to love her. But it may not have been so much about the girl friend issue as it was that she was in at least every second episode in season 3 and was more like a permanent side kick to MacGyver and the fans may simply have been saying they prefer MacGyver to work alone.




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When Debbie is painting with Mac, she uses her left hand. Her watch is on her left wrist beause usually we wear a watch the on hand we don't write with, so it should have been on her right.

What finger did she use to click the camera? It should have been her left, if she was left handed. I also can't remember what hand she held the knife in when she attacked Mac. I was thinking that perhaps she is right handed but they made her left handed?



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When Debbie is painting with Mac, she uses her left hand. Her watch is on her left wrist beause usually we wear a watch the on hand we don't write with, so it should have been on her right.

A lot of left handed people wear their watch on their left hand. There's no real rule about which hand you have to wear a watch on. I even know a right handed guy who wears his watch on his right hand - no idea why; even he can't tell me. lol

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What finger did she use to click the camera? It should have been her left, if she was left handed.

The button is on the right side of the camera so how can she click it with her left hand? How you use things like cameras is determined by where the buttons/controls are, not by which hand is your dominant hand.
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Looks like she is left handed. She used the screw driver in her left hand and also when she opened the case with the bug in it, she removed the lid with her left hand and emptied the bug into her right hand which is opposite to what a right handed person would do.
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This is such a great episode. One thing I really like is that you get to see MacGyver through someone else's eyes. Artistic, athletic, volunteer...
Eau d'Leo is of course wonderful and the montage is superbly done, and I can never get enough of the house boat and jeep. Of course having a beautiful woman on the show didn't hurt either.



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Another great episode from the third season alongside The Widowmaker. smile.gif

I love the scene where Mac first sees Deborah. He fell for her immediately! I guess that's the profile of women he likes: nice, educated, nature & animal lover, caring, modest...

Also, as a guitar player myself I LOVE the scene where Mac plays guitar! You guys probably knew that RDA wrote the tune. I put the clip of this scene on youtube. Here!



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So many people have already discussed this *excellent* episode, but I'll add a few of my own observations and opinions anyway.

Once again, we're shown that Mac is a true environmentalist, and that he is willing to put his life at risk for things he believes in.

Someone else also mentioned that in this episode, we'll see MacGyver from a somewhat different perspective--much like how other people see him. And what a sympathetic man he is. But also, from one point of view, so very alone. I found it very heartbreaking that Deborah was studying him so thoroughly and knew exactly which buttons to push to make him fall for her.

Imagine if she had been for real? I think that she, if anyone, would have been an ideal girlfriend for Mac. But she was just an illusion... Maria might have been real, but I didn't like her much; real or not, she still didn't feel genuine to me. I seriously doubt the writers *were* capable of creating a plausible girlfriend for Mac. It's not only because the fans were enraged at every attempt, but what we were shown... just wasn't plausible. I'm not talking out of jealousy here, I just simply didn't like the majority of his girlfriends in the series. Most of them were either too flimsy, too girlish, or too much of a damsel in distress. I always pictured Mac with someone intelligent and rather independent, who even would have the courage to rescue him (or help him out) if needed.

Anyway--imagine if Deborah was for real--their love story could have been beautiful. The Eau d' Leo theme RDA created for this episode is really beautiful, indeed. Too bad we never saw that guitar again! Very suitable for the mood.

I, too, think there were far more efficient ways for Deborah to get rid of Mac--if she really wanted to; she later claimed she was starting to fall in love for real. But yet, she attempted to blow him up, and stab him. But, I mean, as intelligent as she was, and considering for instance how many times they were obviously cooking together, she could easily have poisoned him with something that wasn't easily traced.

In the end, you feel very sorry for Mac. The foundation managed to win the case, and get Mr Knapp and Deborah arrested... but no wonder Mac's commitment issues got even worse after this... sad.gif

Nevertheless--this episode might have its flaws, but it's still a definite "Excellent" for me!



 
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QUOTE (Mary-Kate @ 2 August 2012 - 10:36 AM)
Also, as a guitar player myself I LOVE the scene where Mac plays guitar! You guys probably knew that RDA wrote the tune. I put the clip of this scene on youtube. Here!

Hey, I've started playing guitar, too, and would love it if I could find the chords for this. But I bet it's very hard to find, if not impossible... sad.gif



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QUOTE (MacGirl @ 15 August 2013 - 02:14 PM)
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Also, as a guitar player myself I LOVE the scene where Mac plays guitar! You guys probably knew that RDA wrote the tune. I put the clip of this scene on youtube. Here!

Hey, I've started playing guitar, too, and would love it if I could find the chords for this. But I bet it's very hard to find, if not impossible... sad.gif

I've been playing guitar for 4 years now and have pretty good pitch, but this song is hard to tab or even determine chords, as RDA used only intervals at some parts. It would take some time from me to figure it out.

Grab a guitar and try to find chords/intervals for yourself. smile.gif At least try, it will be a good lesson for ear training. That's how I started, except it was guitar solos that I was craving for to learn. biggrin.gif



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The big warehouse in the end scene looked the same which was used in episode High Control. In episode Outsiders, where was the consruction workers area, we maybe see the same in the background too, atleast there was some sort of warehouse.

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QUOTE (NightTinkerer @ 6 November 2012 - 02:48 PM)
Someone else also mentioned that in this episode, we'll see MacGyver from a somewhat different perspective--much like how other people see him. And what a sympathetic man he is. But also, from one point of view, so very alone. I found it very heartbreaking that Deborah was studying him so thoroughly and knew exactly which buttons to push to make him fall for her.


In the end, you feel very sorry for Mac. The foundation managed to win the case, and get Mr Knapp and Deborah arrested... but no wonder Mac's commitment issues got even worse after this... sad.gif




I've just watched this one for the first time in ages. Deborah really is a stinker, isn't she!
It does make you feel sorry for Mac. No wonder he was so wary...



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QUOTE (Mary-Kate @ 1 August 2012 - 02:36 PM)
Another great episode from the third season alongside The Widowmaker. smile.gif

I love the scene where Mac first sees Deborah. He fell for her immediately! I guess that's the profile of women he likes: nice, educated, nature & animal lover, caring, modest...

Also, as a guitar player myself I LOVE the scene where Mac plays guitar! You guys probably knew that RDA wrote the tune. I put the clip of this scene on youtube. Here!

When I first saw it, I thought that it was slightly over-the-top that Mac would be artistic/musical as well as athletic/daring, inventive, sweet and idealistic. I mean, come off it? Despite the line he has (I cannot recall where) about dusting twice a year, he's clearly not a slob. Is there anything he's really, really bad at? (Beware of writing characters who seem too perfect, unless you're actually trying to describe the character you want for your home-made sentient robot ... um, sorry, wrong forum.)

Apart from avoiding trouble and accidents. Mac's very bad at that.

But I suppose it made a little bit more sense when I found out RDA had composed the song himself. Interesting that the "inventing all the MacGyver inventions" part of the role was the element of the role that was least like him.




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Well, he is a man of 'many many many many many many' talents. biggrin.gif



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Wow, lots of great comments on this one! Anybody else but me like the part where he drinks right from the blender? Typical bachelor thing to do!



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QUOTE (MiracleMac @ 19 June 2014 - 01:31 AM)
The big warehouse in the end scene looked the same which was used in episode High Control. In episode Outsiders, where was the consruction workers area, we maybe see the same in the background too, atleast there was some sort of warehouse.

Trying to find that filming location

Isn't the warehouse also the same one from Birth Day? The inside looked like it anyway...

From a fan girl perspective I love this episode, such a nice insight into dating MacGyver - his adorably timid asking her out at the paint class... It is a shame there couldn't have been someone more like her Mac could have really fell for - the forest ranger girl was kind of similar but she was too caught up in being a forest ranger - Mac does need someone super flexible to all his traveling and missions all the time.

I also am not crazy about the warehouse scene at the end - mostly because I wanted the dialogue to be a little better - especially to support her claims of falling for him in Unfinished Business. Although she's pretty mean at the end of that one too! I'm okay with her only having a knife, because her plan was to drive him off a cliff and make it look accidental, and she wasn't really concerned since he was blind.

I don't have an issue with Pete and Nikki suspecting her after they realize it's a woman behind everything - she was everywhere with Mac all of a sudden, so it would be a natural suspicion.



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QUOTE (RadiantRose @ 12 September 2016 - 02:46 AM)
When I first saw it, I thought that it was slightly over-the-top that Mac would be artistic/musical as well as athletic/daring, inventive, sweet and idealistic. I mean, come off it?

You do realize that apart from the inventive bit, you just described RDA right?

They basically used all his hobbies and attributes to create the character.




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QUOTE (MacGyverOnline @ 30 October 2018 - 12:15 AM)
QUOTE (RadiantRose @ 12 September 2016 - 02:46 AM)
When I first saw it, I thought that it was slightly over-the-top that Mac would be artistic/musical as well as athletic/daring, inventive, sweet and idealistic.  I mean, come off it?

You do realize that apart from the inventive bit, you just described RDA right?

They basically used all his hobbies and attributes to create the character.

Agreed - I didn't find it unrealistic. MacGyver is super creative, and most creative people have talents in lots of areas, not just one.



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QUOTE (zoeryan @ 30 October 2018 - 06:11 AM)
QUOTE (MiracleMac @ 19 June 2014 - 01:31 AM)
The big warehouse in the end scene looked the same which was used in episode High Control. In episode Outsiders, where was the consruction workers area, we maybe see the same in the background too, atleast there was some sort of warehouse.

Trying to find that filming location

Isn't the warehouse also the same one from Birth Day? The inside looked like it anyway...

From a fan girl perspective I love this episode, such a nice insight into dating MacGyver - his adorably timid asking her out at the paint class... It is a shame there couldn't have been someone more like her Mac could have really fell for - the forest ranger girl was kind of similar but she was too caught up in being a forest ranger - Mac does need someone super flexible to all his traveling and missions all the time.

I also am not crazy about the warehouse scene at the end - mostly because I wanted the dialogue to be a little better - especially to support her claims of falling for him in Unfinished Business. Although she's pretty mean at the end of that one too! I'm okay with her only having a knife, because her plan was to drive him off a cliff and make it look accidental, and she wasn't really concerned since he was blind.

I don't have an issue with Pete and Nikki suspecting her after they realize it's a woman behind everything - she was everywhere with Mac all of a sudden, so it would be a natural suspicion.

Nope. The warehouse from Birth Day was filmed in Los Angeles and actually doubles as the torture rooms in Lethal Weapon. The so-called back of the club at the end of the film.

Though I'm not fully sure, I think this warehouse was also seen in High Control. Could've been the same one. Who can tell when in The Negotiator the warehouse is only seen during the night and in High Control during the day.



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In this episode MacGyver is fighting against having a new marina build which he says will give "a bunch of fat cats a new place to park their yachts and party".... but he lives in a marina himself, which would have also damaged the environment when it was built.

That's a little hypocritical isn't it? laugh.gif



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QUOTE (Mary-Kate @ 15 August 2013 - 11:41 PM)
I've been playing guitar for 4 years now and have pretty good pitch, but this song is hard to tab or even determine chords, as RDA used only intervals at some parts. It would take some time from me to figure it out.

Grab a guitar and try to find chords/intervals for yourself. smile.gif At least try, it will be a good lesson for ear training. That's how I started, except it was guitar solos that I was craving for to learn. biggrin.gif

I think there's apps which can show notes of music now.






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QUOTE (Grazer @ 23 June 2022 - 07:27 PM)
QUOTE (Mary-Kate @ 15 August 2013 - 11:41 PM)
I've been playing guitar for 4 years now and have pretty good pitch, but this song is hard to tab or even determine chords, as RDA used only intervals at some parts. It would take some time from me to figure it out.

I think there's apps which can show notes of music now.

Thanks for that. I've now wasted an hour finding and playing with a music scanner! laugh.gif

It didn't turn out that great - probably could get it better if I spent some time learning how to use it, but when I played it back as a piano roll it did actually help me find a few basic notes and I can now play the main part of the tune on a piano keyboard.

Here's an screen capture of part of the piano roll so you can see the key range used.

https://www.macgyveronline.com/wp-content/u...-oiano-roll.jpg



And here's the sheet music.

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