Watched this one again yesterday. I do like it...

My Mum, however, hadn't seen it before and on finding out it was the last one, turned to me in horror:

"They're not going to kill him off, are they?!"

My mum's the same - I don't know which one of us is more addicted. I get in from work, and she's like "Are we having a Mac tonight?" She likes Jack Dalton's character as well. He makes her laugh, which with my mum is no mean feat!

Heh heh

My mum lives a few miles away, but whenever she comes up for her tea, we watch.
Onto the films next...

Question for all the mechanically minded on here:

Given what happens to the Jeep in this episode, is it repairable or would it be new Jeep time after this?
It comes up in the story I'm writing...

Depends on how extensive the damage is. I mean, he basically totaled that Jeep in Outsiders, yet he was able to fix it. Now, I'm not mechanic, but I would figure that as long as nothing major happened to the engine or the frame work, it would mostly be cosmetic damage. This isn't uncommon in TV... Dean Winchester's 1967 Impala was hit by a semi-truck and it's been wreck more than once, and he's always fixed it to brand new. If you have someone that knows what they're doing, it can be fixed.

Besides, Jeep Wranglers are known for being hard to kill. There's an interesting story about a man who used his badly damaged Wrangler to help victims after being hit by an F5 tornado (this is the same class used in the movie Twister). You can read the story here:
http://jklwrangler.com/category/stomper/

My point... it's probably alive and well... at least, in my head it is.

Wow! Okay then. Well with such an extensive answer like Jedi's there's simply no other opinion I can add. Go with Jedi's answer.

No problem
In that case it's simply in the garage being mended
Thanks. guys

Don't remember quite what she said but she mentions something of degree. Don't know if it's a high school degree or a college degree. I always assumed they were together in their senior high school year. 12th grade.

Since her name isn't Kate or Lisa or Deborah, Amy doesn't fit in at all. It is an unwritten rule that viewers have to be totally confused about the names of most females in Mac's life ... it's not like the writers could have gone to look for a book of female baby names or anything ... or something.

Or could they?

It would be impossible for any other sperm, but these are MacSperm, with amazing powers of ingenuity.

She stole his sperm, refrigerated it and did the "turkey baster" thing at a later date?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought that as the scene started, someone (presumably Pete's driver) had just walked away to allow Pete, Mac and Sam some privacy?

Because thats why he personally doesn't like or use a gun.

It doesn't have anything to do with what he thinks justice is or isn't, or his belief that killing people (in any way for any reason) is a bad idea.

The two ideas are connected. If hadn't had some qualms about taking lives, he wouldn't have cared that his friend was trying to kill a bird in the first place. And the gun incident would never have happened.

Foreshadowing ... or testing the waters? If too many fans had written in to say, "Oh, how disgusting that Jack and Jesse committed adultery" (using the rather unusual definition of adultery used by some people on this forum), they probably wouldn't have decided to give Mac a long-lost son.

The Series Finale aired 25 years ago

How times have changed - ratings-wise as well (in comparison: the Reboot Series Finale had 6.57 million viewers).

Source: http://anythingkiss.com/pi_feedback_challe...1_TVRatings.pdf

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Impressive. But the competition back then was also far less than the rivalry nowadays.

What else did you expect?

Exactly. There are so many TV channels and alternatives now that shows will never reach these high numbers again.

On the other hand, even though the Reboot had the second lowest rating of all the first season episodes, it still managed to win its time slot. It's nice to see that a show called "MacGyver" had the highest prime time viewer rates.

Wow a lot to unpack here after reading this thread.

First I really liked the episode, picking an actor for his son is no easy task, and I thought they pulled it off really well, even though it was a lot to cram into an hour. Mac's expressions when his son was acting MacGyvery or when they said something in unison was priceless. I do think the episode felt rushed, but I liked how it ended. Mac is much younger than Pete, who is practically blind now, so it's unrealistic to think Mac would stay put all the time just to be near Pete. I'm sure they will remain close.

I'm shocked at all this talk of adultery Clearly Mac has had MANY relationships and I assume he slept with ALL of them like a normal adult, lol. He's a pretty liberal guy, and there is not one instance in this show I can think of that suggests he is at all religious - even when he almost dies! The way the show handles his past relationships has always been laughable, half the women guest stars were past Mac loves, where both of them were still not completely over the break up, lol. Rinse and repeat x10 it seems. I prefer when he had chemistry with women he just met personally. Or at least without a past. I hope his Russian lessons went well.

I think it is quite plausible he had a kid he didn't know about it, and the episode Friends certainly establishes Mac could find it possible too. I think Mac doesn't get upset at Kate, because she's dead. If she had been there alongside Sam I'm sure he would have yelled at her. Back when Sam was young Mac was practically a spy, so it's not totally outrageous that Kate wouldn't tell him - or maybe she just wanted her own independence.

I remember someone joking with me back before the finale originally aired (when I was an impressionable 12 year old) that how they would end MacGyver was he would finally get stuck in a situation he couldn't MacGyver out of. That would have been awful! And so would have a clip show, so considering how mediocre season 7 was overall, I think they did pretty well with the finale.

You haven't seen There But For The Grace yet? Of course it doesn't have to mean he's religious. I can't see him going to church every Sunday but he's got friends who are priests and helps them out more then once.

MacGyver never did such thing as adultery, yet his college years are packed with women. I think Kate never told him to protect him so that he could live his life the way he wanted and not be chained down in a forced relationship or family situation or she knows his past on how everyone he loves dies and didn't want him to worry about her. I doubt he would've yelled at her if she told him she was pregnant. He was wondering himself why she never told him.

Besides I don't think this is a situation he couldn't MacGyver himself out of. Sam was at least 19 years old and he can always leave. If he was like 5 years old, that's another matter but Sam was old enough to take care of himself.

Religious organizations do lots of charity work, so it would makes sense that he would help them out. I never got the sense he went to church or anything.

I didn't think he would yell at Kate if she told him back when she was pregnant, but if she had been alive and shown up with a 20 year old son and then told him, I think Mac would have been justifiably upset. He's not upset with Kate because she's dead, so there is no point.

To the thread conversation about whether Mac slept with women, I just rewatched Lost Love, in which there is a bedroom scene, so I think that fairly overtly answers that!

But that wasn't adultery. I mean not in the sense of cheating on someone at least.

I always chuckle when someone tries to rationalize that Mac didn't sleep around, as if he was celibate or something. None of the guys I know are celibate, well... not by choice. I had one friend compare it to a slow death.

So dramatic... XD

Oh absolutely not - but it was suggested by someone earlier in the thread that Mac was a virgin! People were then bringing up episodes where he assumedly slept with someone, but I think lost love is the most overt... unless there is another bed MacGyver scene? If so tell me immediately

Maybe, the thread/question de jour should probably be more tailored like - did he practice safe sex and given his portrayed squeaky clean lifestyle? Along those lines, I think that the close timeline of the series and the rise of HIV/AIDS most likely had some kind of influence(however small) on the scaling down of his sleepover scenes and as the series progressed. Would make for an interesting thread/debate …..

This is an excellent episode, btw. Okay, the main plot is a tad cliché, but Dalton James is seamless in his portrayal of "Sam", and the cinematography, lighting, and jazzy score, really set the table for that rather emotional and voice-overed ride off into the sun set final scene. Covers guns, smoothies, (lack of) family planning, etc, etc, ,,,, the whole kit&kaboodle!

If you're out in the jungle eating lizard.... not sure he packed his protection, his expression in Friends makes me think not

If you're out in the jungle eating lizard.... not sure he packed his protection, his expression in Friends makes me think not

Goodgawd, you'd think - he being he - could have macgyvered a makeshift thingamadoohee out of that poor old reptile's skin …. in a pinch, wouldn't ya

I'm not going to read back to find out who said Mac was a virgin. I don't think he was 40-year old virgin.

If he's as smart as we all think he is, I don't doubt that.

That I do doubt. Nobody wanted him to be with someone, that's what they did so no, I don't think so. Mac's not the kind of guy that would just sleep around with anyone, despite he may have had a number. But most of those women weren't the ones who was looking for fling.

Are you implying jungle sex? Me Tarzan, you Jane.

I already said before: who knows what kind of fantasies he has behind the goody two-shoes look. Damn, jungle sex. Never thought of that one. But despite the comic look he had when he saw a pregnant Kate it was impossible since nearly two years had passed since they met. Maybe he's look was: 'we only kissed.'

They always said he could make anything. So why not? Then again I wouldn't risk on using it.

I have a feeling I'm going to regret this post.....

I can honestly say that Mac is not a virgin. XD

However, there ARE other methods of birth control if you don't have protection... if you know what you're doing. lol

The problem is, no form of birth control is 100% effective. No matter what you do, there's always a risk of pregnancy. So even if MacGyver used protection, there is a slight chance the girl can still get pregnant... though that chance would be fairly small.

So now we have to think like Kate Connelly... she's working overseas, where feminine hygiene products were probably hard to come by. What does a woman do? She gets on birth control because it shortens, lightens and makes menstrual cycles more manageable.

Since she was the one who propositioned MacGyver in the first place, she was probably on birth control already and wasn't worried about a whoopsie. lol

Not saying that was the case, but it would make sense given her circumstances.

You can never have too much birth control while you're working.