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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 04:04 AM                                    
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Yesterday was my 11th anniversary. My husband decided to suprise me with a short horseback ride. Cool. So we go up the canyon to the ranch where the ride is taking place, meet the trail guide and the horses. So far so good.

I've ridden horses most of my life, its not like I haven't done this before. I go to mount up, using a mounting block. So far so good. As I go to swing my leg over the horse, she totally freaks out, leaps forward and to the side, and launches me through the air.

I'm thinking ok, gonna hit the groun, not a problem, I'll just land on my backside and walk away. Great plan, except I landed on the edge of my right foot, went spinning halfway around and wrenched the **** out of my right knee.

So instead of a short gentle trail ride in the mountains among the beuatiful fal leaves, I had a pain filled car ride down the canyon to the emergency room. Much poking, prodding, twisting and x-rays and the doctor doesn't think I broke any bones in my knee (good news) but that I have a torn meniscus or ligament (not so good news).

Today I'm spending on the couch with my laptop, Mac DVDs, and good drugs. I have no idea how I'm getting to work on Monday since I can't drive. If my boss is agreeable, I have projects where I can work from home so I won't have to use all my leave time. I need that for my Oregon road trip which is coming up in 19 days.

Long story short--THIS SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!! ranting2.gif I hate being injured and not able to do what I need to do.

I'm seeing an orthopedist next week, for a second evaluation, and further treatment options. Hopefully I'll be off the crutches when I go to Oregon. If not, that's gonna put a crimp in my beach walking.

Oh well, guess I'll have plenty of time to work on theat fanfic I've been promising.



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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 04:15 AM                                    
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ohno-smiley.gif WOW! That does suck. That sucks big honkin... unsure.gif things that suck!

You have my sympathy. sad.gif

*shakes head* horses... so twitchy. Ya just never know. sad.gif



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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 04:22 AM                                    
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I know.......and my husband is blaming himself and feeling all guilty. I keep telling him its not his fault, but he's not buying it.

Oh well, guess I have something in common with RDA. We can compare knee surgery scars. laugh.gif



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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 04:37 AM                                    
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Tell him if he really wants to make up for it... he can go put the horse down. That might help him see how silly he's being.

Dumb BOY! Tell him he needs to focus.

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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 04:39 AM                                    
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He is. Lots of sympathy and I'll send him to the grocer's later today for the comfort.



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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 05:26 AM                                    
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Holy Herbivores! ohmy.gif What a terrible thing to happen!

Be sure to stay off of it if your Doctor says to stay off if it!! That was always my problem when I was convalescing... pushing myself too hard.

Hope those 19 days speed by! *sends healing thoughts*



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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 06:05 AM                                    
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YIKES! Been there, done that. Yuck. Hang in there.

Healing thoughts your way!!!



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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 06:28 AM                                    
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Aw, poor Grrl! Hope your foot heals quickly and properly! sad.gif



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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 06:51 AM                                    
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OUCH!!!!

hope you won't need surgery!! As they say stay off it as much as possible..

I think that was my one mistake not taking the crutches when I my knee got banged up when I was hit by a car knee first.. I just hubbled around until it was all better.


Get better soon.. And have a great trip, make the best of it!



 
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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 07:24 AM                                    
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I am following Doc's orders. Rest, elevation ice, drugs. Not necessarily in that order but I'm doing it all. I've been here before. When I was in college I smashed up my left knee, tore the ACL and the whole bit. It takes time and when I had the ACL repair on the left, I followed doctor's order to the letter and then worked my butt off in physical therapy to rebuild my range of motion. I recovered with a full range of motion in my left knee.

This is the same thing. Last time, I was off work for 6 weeks while I recovered from surgery and went through the physical therapy. I expect basically the same thing with this injury. I've always approached healing and injury recovery as a partnership between me, the doctor and the physical therapist.

Thanks for the good thoughts. Its nice to have somebody to hang out with. I promise that I will take care of myself, do what the doctor tells me and get better soon.



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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 07:57 AM                                    
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Yow, Grrlfriend! Take care of yourself and remember that chocolate is supposed to be applied internally.

Best of luck with getting some writing in, too -- although, depending on how good the drugs are, you may want to re-read it carefully afterwards. happy.gif

Lots of warm fuzzy healing thoughts headed your way!

And congratulations on your 11th anniversary! clapup.gif But make a note to do something less damaging for the 12th.

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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 08:04 AM                                    
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Maybe you can add your injury as a nice touch in your fanfic, makes it a little biographic. Hope you feel better soon.



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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 08:28 AM                                    
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God speed on a quick recovery!



 
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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 09:22 AM                                    
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Thanks all.

And Beth I am very carefully reading everyting I'm writing, including these posts. For some reason, it seems like someone keeps rearranging the placement of the keys on my computer....... tongue.gif



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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 09:23 AM                                    
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QUOTE (MacGyverGrrl @ 15 September 2007 - 02:57 PM)
For some reason, it seems like someone keeps rearranging the placement of the keys on my computer....... tongue.gif

Dang, you caught me! *puts keys back where they belong*



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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 09:30 AM                                    
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Thanks.........now if I can just get my fingers to push them in the right order at the right time.....



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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 09:33 AM                                    
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QUOTE (MacGyverGrrl @ 15 September 2007 - 03:05 PM)
now if I can just get my fingers to push them in the right order at the right time.....

Aww, that'll take half the fun out of it. You can always claim you're writing cutting-edge contemporary poetry, after all.



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Ok if thats what you want to call it. At least the space bar is working again otherwiseeverythingwouldlooklikethiswhichisthewayIwaswritingearlier. ohmy.gif



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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 09:37 AM                                    
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QUOTE (MacGyverGrrl @ 15 September 2007 - 03:10 PM)
otherwiseeverythingwouldlooklikethiswhichisthewayIwaswritingearlier. ohmy.gif

That does look like you're on drugs, and not the good kind!



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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 09:46 AM                                    
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They are good drugs, very relaxing...........making the owwie feel better.



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QUOTE (MacGyverGrrl @ 15 September 2007 - 03:21 PM)
They are good drugs, very relaxing...........making the owwie feel better.

*extra hug for Grrl* Good! I have to run away now -- but you go on taking care of yourself, OK?

*more warm fuzzy healing thoughts*

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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 09:59 AM                                    
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I'm taking care of myself. It's taking care of my son that will be the challenge. I'm thinking pizza........Dominos delivers!

Thanks Beth, see ya later.



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QUOTE (MacGyverGrrl Posted on 15 September 2007 - 06:10 PM)
Ok if thats what you want to call it. At least the space bar is working again otherwiseeverythingwouldlooklikethiswhichisthewayIwaswritingearlier.

I actually could read that.

Much sympathy on the knee. Owieee! ohno-smiley.gif ...chocolate and/or ice cream is a MUST!

Oh, and Happy Anniversary!



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Thanks and I have triple chocolate ice cream, chocolate frosted Krispy Kreme donuts and dark chocolate M&Ms. My husband has learned after 11 years that chocolate cures everything. biggrin.gif

My son is loving it. He's been sneaking M&M's all afternoon and is running on a sugar high. Good. He needs all the energy he can get since I have him fetching stuff for me from the other rooms in the house.



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QUOTE (MacGyverGrrl @ 16 September 2007 - 10:43 AM)
Thanks and I have triple chocolate ice cream, chocolate frosted Krispy Kreme donuts and dark chocolate M&Ms.  My husband has learned after 11 years that chocolate cures everything. biggrin.gif

My son is loving it.  He's been sneaking M&M's all afternoon and is running on a sugar high.  Good.  He needs all the energy he can get since I have him fetching stuff for me from the other rooms in the house.

Will you share some with me? sad.gif

laugh.gif

I just finished a bag of M&M's. For the large sized bag, I would have thought it would take more than 0.5 seconds to eat...



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Wow! I'm sorry to hear that! ohmy.gif I love horses, but they can certainly be unpredictable and dangerous. unsure.gif My mom was on one once that bolted suddenly when it saw that it was close to the barn, and she had a heck of a time stopping it, its impulse to run overruling her commands. Get well soon! smile.gif



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Thanks Chick. I think I would have been ok if I'd actually gotten my leg swung over the horse. I would have had a better chance haging on.

Horses can be unpredictable and dangerous, true, but this one didn't give any indicati0on she was gonna blow up.

The ranch owners feel terrible, but its not their fault. Its like I told my son, horses can be stupid sometimes. He kept asking why, and I said because God made them that way. I don't want him to be afraid of horses becasue I got hurt, but he still has some anxiety about it and keps asking me questions.

I have a friend who has an absolute bomb proof kids horse and as soon as the doc gives me clearance, I think I will be getting with her for a little short ride. Get my confidence back and show Logan that there's nothing to be afraid of.



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Posted: 16 September 2007 - 01:27 PM                                    
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Tygr, come on over. I've got plenty of chocolate to share. biggrin.gif



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Grrl, I hope your knee heals quickly and easily. Here. *hands you a mass of chocolate* I don't eat chocolate very much, and you seem to need it more.



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Thanks. If chocolate cures knee injuries, the I'll be salsa dancing in a couple of hours. biggrin.gif



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