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Posted: 20 October 2014 - 11:13 PM                                    
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QUOTE (KiwiTek @ 19 October 2014 - 09:46 AM)
I think the standard has no keyring,tweezers or toothpick.


Maybe you were referring to the original Spartan (?) but in France, today, all the SAKs have a keyring and a toothpick (I've just checked while shopping).



 
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I have standard knife model bought it in 1990 from here finland. It is 91mm same knife as spartan but no tweezers, toothpick and no keyring. It has normal swiss shield logo on scale. sakopen.gif



 
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QUOTE (tvero @ 21 October 2014 - 12:13 AM)
QUOTE (KiwiTek @ 19 October 2014 - 09:46 AM)
I think the standard has no keyring,tweezers or toothpick.


Maybe you were referring to the original Spartan (?) but in France, today, all the SAKs have a keyring and a toothpick (I've just checked while shopping).

No. The picture I posted is of a Victorinox "Standard".

The Knives used per episode page now has pictures on it. Just click on the name of a SAK to see what it looks like.

The models were researched through the Victorinox web site and the SAKWiki so I'm fairly confident that they are all accurate, but let me know if you find any mistakes with the photos.



 
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Looks great KiwiTek. Thank you for that. smile.gif



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In Three for the Road, Mac used scissors to make a "flower bouquet" out of newspaper.

So it cannot be a Camper... right?

Because in this page SAK Used in Each Episode there is written Camper / Climber...

Can someone please confirm?

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I thought the camper model came with tiny tent stakes in place of the scissors. Pretty sure.



 
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I think victorinox knife used in Renegade is sportsman or tourist in elevator scene and when Mac cuts the rope he uses picknicker knife. In three for the road camper is used trough the episode except when Mac is cutting newspaper the model can be climber, huntsman, mountaineer, grand prix or fisherman because scissors are used. macsak.gif



 
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Hopefully, if/when they release the series & movies in BluRay, that should help in IDing the knives used where currently we can't tell or aren't positive.

IIRC, in the movie Trail to Doomsday they only showed Mac w/his SAK when he was in a room before setting off underground. He held it in one hand and used it to drum the palm of the other as he was thinking of something. No tools were used then, and I don't think they even showed a SAK other than that.

I rented the DVD via Netflix a few months ago, so I can't look it up. Maybe someone else can. I don't recall the opening and closing credits, so you may want to ck those for SAKs too.



 
                                                                     
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Just want to make sure, the sak.gif we see MacGyver use for the first time in the Pilot episode is a Victorinox Tinker. Is this specific model still made or does the current Tinker model differ in any way?



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The Picknicker I have is different than the one pictured on MOL and on SAKwiki. Mine is 91mm, has large blade / small blade /phillips head screwdriver / magnifying glass / bottle opener w/ large slot head screwdriver and wire stripper / can opener w/ screwdriver / corkscrew / reamer.



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Did Mac's Tourist have a key ring? I've seen them with and without.



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In the interest of screen accuracy, I wish there was a site that displayed the evolution of the design of each SAK model over the years, accounting for each and every change and the year(s) of said models, that way those of us looking to own SAKs exactly like Mac used could be sure the ones we have match. I called Victoinox and according to the gentleman I spoke with, they have no such record within the company. I noticed the Spartan model initially did not have a an eye in the reamer but later models did and still do. So, did Mac's have the eye in the reamer or not?

I think the closest we can get is to purchase "new old stock" of Victorinox SAKs packaged in the burgundy boxes with the silver Swiss shield and silver lettering: VICTORINOX the original "Swiss Army Officers' Knife" the first and the finest. The first Victorinox SAK I bought was a Tinker - small in 1986 or 1987 and it came in the above described box.

This may border on OCD. blink.gif But . . . screen accurate is screen accurate.



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There are a couple of knife forums I have seen which go into detail on specifics of knives and so forth.

I am however not certain if they focus on the SAK's and their updated models throughout time.



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I called Victorinox and from what the customer service rep. told me, they do not have a record of the different versions of the SAKs made over the years. I'm surprised this. I would've thought they'd have a timeline, as it were, of the evolution of every SAK model they've made. Too bad there's not an app for that. sad.gif



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a flaw in the system? biggrin.gif



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Just watched S1E13 - Flames End and took screenshots of the knife.

It is definitely not a Victorinox model as I see it.

The image below shows that swiss knife logo is too white to be the Victorinox logo:

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Also I took various other screenshots when MacGyver was speeding up the timer. The flat head screwdriver shape is not a Victorinox one. Check them below:


Flathead 1

Flathead 1-2


and here:

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It's a Wenger SAK as shown on our list.


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Not sure why we've listed a Victorinox there with the Wenger though. I don't think he uses a knife again in that episode does he?





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Ok so now I can update the list posted in another topic.

Because in the SAK page, in the episode row there is written Wenger/Tinker.

So basically I can remove one from the "not sure" list and add Wenger Classic?



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Or Wenger Highlander. I have one of these knives. It's basically a small Tinker layout wise.



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Just watched Last Stand ... in my opinion 2 knives were used in this episode.

In the SAK page, there is written Tinker / Executive but...

In the image below, the knife is clearly not an Executive since it is a medium knife (91mm I could say)

user posted image


This knife was taken from MacGyver by the bad guy at the beginning when he was asked to empty his pockets.

And then in the same episode, a bit later on, we see MacGyver with a knife where the blade is not as high as the knife itself. And judging by the grip, I guess it is an Executive now. Check this:

user posted image

So this shows that more than 1 knife could have been used in one episode so the total number of knives in the SAK page does not necessarily need to match the number of episodes.

UPDATE:

I also started watching Hellfire ... again here there is marked Tinker / Executive

However both knives were used in this episode.

Here we have a medium (91mm?) knife:

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And then a few seconds later while still looking at the dynamite, we have the Executive which can be clearly identified by the blade size and knife shape (I own one so I immediately recognise one when I see it):

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So... what do you guys think? Your opinion KiwiTek?



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Those are terrible screen captures. I can't even see the knife in most of them.

I'll have to go back and watch through the episode before commenting, unless you can find some better screen captures.




 
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Yes I know they are of low quality but you can see the difference in the knives and the blade size just the same... don't you think?



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I can't really see anything in them.


Here's some of the knife as MacGyver opens the Dynamite box in hellfire.


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And here's one from Last Stand

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It looks like an executive to me.

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When he opens the dynamite box and the picture you posted where he picks the material with the blade, the blade's shape and size is not an executive's blade for sure. It is a 91mm knife blade... in fact the blade occupies the whole knife's width as opposed to an executive blade where it takes half the width...

That is why I am saying that 2 knives were used...

Can you double check pls? The blade is wider than that of an executive...

Also pls can you provide the screenshot from Last Stand when Mac empties his pocket contents on the table? It surely is not an Executive there... too big for me



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KiwiTek, re Hell Fire you posted this:

user posted image

And here is a fresh shot of my Executive knife in the same position.

user posted image

You can clearly see that:

1. There is no writing engraved.

2. The blade is wider.

3. The blade's shape is different.

4. In your pic, the blade's non cutting edge matches exactly the edge of the knife. In my pic, it reaches the middle of the knife's width since it is a smaller blade.

5. Keyring?

So this shows that in that scene, in a minute, 2 different knives were used.

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So... feedback? Can anyone help me out on this please?

In the meantime, I watched Twice Stung where there is written Camper/Tinker. I feel it is a Tinker model.

My screenshot below kind of shows the backside phillips screwdriver. It is around the 40:06. Maybe someone can provide a clearer screen capture.

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Yes that's a tinker in that scene, but remember the second knife could be used in a different part of the episode.






 
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Ok granted KiwiTek.

What about the executive - tinker comparison in my post re Hell Fire please?

Do you agree that the image you posted is not an executive blade compared to my executive blade image?

I am asking since when I posted my original list of the number of times each SAK was used you remarked that I have more knives than episodes and now we are discussing that there can be more than one knife per episode.

So the total of knives vs episodes does not need to match. Is that correct please?

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Barry Rowland
Posted: 12 August 2016 - 04:32 AM                                    
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That's definitely a Tinker in that scene, but I know I saw a 3 layer in that episode too. I was going to guess a Camper, but there's really no way of knowing unless Mac used the saw. I don't know if I missed this, but how did the producers have access to all these SAKs? Were they provided based on the needs of the episode or just on what was on hand?



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Barry's comment also emphasises the fact that the number of knives used do not need to match the number of episodes since now we can for sure say that more than one knife could have been used in one episode...



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