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Hey, I was wondering what colors beside black did Mac have. I could of sworn that he had a navy blue one in season 3! And then in season 5 and 6 he had both? So is it just me or did someone else notice this too?
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And the reason it looks black is because the picture has bright sunlight, which allows teh camera to catch the full spectrum of light and show colors better.
If you look at the background of the first image you can see that the clouds etc also have a blue tinge to them. It's just a badly reproduced image.
Those jackets where only made in 2 colors back then*, black and green so I can 200% absolutely bet my life on it, that first jacket is the same black one he always had.
in fact if you look at this image after I've processed it a little, you can see speckles of green and other colors in the jacket, which show the bad quality of the image.
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I swear I have that same jacket. It is blue and has a orange lining just like mac's. It has the same zipper on the left sleeve and features the larger than normal zipper. The collar is the same going from the material the jacket it made out of to more of a sweater type material. It's just like the one pictured above and guess what the other day I was looking for a label or name brand or some distinguishing markings which the jacket seems to have none. To make matters worse the jacket was given to me years ago and I have no idea where the previous owner got it from. Alls I know is I have a jacket similar or exactly the same to the one seen in Macgyver episodes. Ever notice how they must have bought a few of these jackets for the show?? In the Jerico games Mac is seen wearing the same jacket however it is black with an orange liner. The bad guy who dons the Mac mask just so happens to be wearing, you guessed it the same black and orange jacket. I would really like to find out more about these jackets. Mine is old enough to probably be from around the same time frame when mac wore his.
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You can by that exact jacket from our online store.
It's called either FA-1 flight jacket or reversible air force jacket
I brought mine 2 years ago while in the US from a sports-wear store, which I can't remember the name of. But they sold team branded clothing lines from various sports and teams (NHL, NFL, NBA that kind of thing) along with various other clothing ranges and accessories.
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Yea I guess I can see how that makes sense. Boy that does look blue though! I have a black one of my own and a medium blue, but I would like a midnight blue one. Thanks for clearing up the confusion Rocketeer!
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I just found the tag which was on my jacket when I brought it.
The specs shown on the tag are: AirForce Flight jacket man'S W/R, STANDARD issue OG 187 CONTRACT NO. 8404-753 HSLSN FEDERAL STOCK NO. 1003 Date Issued 1-07-02 NXP
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The original makers of the genuine Mach-1 flight jacket are alpha industries. I have a black Ma-1 from Rotco industries. Mine is just as good as alpha just about $50 cheaper! Here's the link to alpha. http://www.alphaindustries.com/
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Speaking of the jacket looking different colors, I could have sworn it was dark green in one episode. I was watching Squeeze Play - is that the right jacket for that episode? I don't have season 6 right now to check. When they were standing outside of the building after the baseball player hits the ball into the sign at the very end of the episode, that's when the jacket looks like it is green (to me anyway)
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It looks blue on my internet computer which is really old and crappy. maybe if I copy it and and take it upstairs to the other computer it might look green there. This monitor is on its last legs. (its the third one for this computer.) The monitor upstairs is a brand new wide-screen model.
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Yes, I realize it is black, I was thinking that the difference in coloration might have to do with the way different colors of light are shining on it at times. Could be that it reflects because it is shiny??
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You're right, Vickie Rose -- the jacket is a reflective material with a satin finish, and part of what it reflects is the colour of the lights they used in filming different scenes. It's going to look different accordingly.
Another funny thing about black fabric is that different blacks have different "undercolours" -- I once did a show (The House of Bernarda Alba) where all the characters wore black, but the designer was very fussy about the difference between the greenish black and the bluish black and the brownish black and the purplish black and . . . you get the idea.
Add to that the differences in TV monitors, computer monitors, etc. . . and on top of all that, individual people sometimes see colours differently -- you can even get colour perception variation between the right and left eyes on the same person!
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Hi, I wanted to help with what I found out years ago. Through the years it'd been brought to my attention that I had a lot of the same features as RDA and so I knew if I liked how something looked on him I figured it would look ok on me. I was always confused early on when I saw the episodes where some times he'd wear a jacket that looked black and other times navy blue. I've always liked that jacket but never could find the exact one until I went to an army navy store to look up all the different types of flight jackets. It tunes out he wore atleast two through the years. The three colors that are made are Black, Navy and Green. Some even have a collar like he wore in SG: Atlantis ep. Rising. What's great is that a lot of his wordrobe on both shows and TV movies(Eyes of a Stranger) either came from RDA's closet or he kept them for himself after. Rockatteer suggested that we are to believe it had been the same jacket for all 7 years. I doubt it since the stitching around the arm pocket is different and the patch was on one jacket and not on the other two(God, I know way too much about this:) plus it's not uncommon to have a few similar jackets throught the years. I know I have a few. It's a "flight" jacket so I'm sure he was given a few curtisy of the military through the years. Plus, he would need to get new ones through the years with all the fights,wrecks, dirt, etc. he goes through. You can even tell they are different because, besides the color change, you'll notice that the newer jacket is puffier. They start off that way and through years of wear get thinner and hang more. I would hate to think TPTB would expect us to think it was the exact same jacket just like he ended up getting a newer looking brown leather jacket as the years went on. Well, anyway I want to thank Rockatteer for adding the "Navy" to the jacket options. Now, a fun game would be to decide which episodes he wore black and which he wore the navy:) Thanks,
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Rockatteer suggested that we are to believe it had been the same jacket for all 7 years. I doubt it since the stitching around the arm pocket is different and the patch was on one jacket and not on the other two(
But once the flag appeared (we see it first in Faith, Hope and Charity) on the jacket. It was there all the time.
This means either he used the exact same jacket from that moment on, or they put flags on all the jackets to make them look the same, which would strongly suggest that in the MacGyver universe, it was suppose to be the same jacket.
I don't think that the slight differences in jacket design stands up as a good argument for them being different jackets in MacGyver's world, because there are other instances where things like shoes have changed between scenes. I highly doubt that we are suppose to believe that he was carrying a change of shoes and swapped them twice while trying to stop the bad guy, so it would be reasonable to assume from that example that they didn't always match his clothing perfectly, which makes it highly probable that his jackets weren't matched either, but that they where supposed to be the same jacket.
One thing which would help confirm either way would be knowing if the jacket color alternated during an episode, or scene. If it does change during a scene or episode, that would probably suggest continuity nit-picks, like the afore mentioned shoe changes.
If it alternates between episodes, but stays the same for a whole episode, or set of episodes, that might lean towards them supposed to be different jackets.
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Id hate to think the creators would think us so oblivious to think it's always been the same jacket for all 7 years but I think your right about it always being the same jacket when it had the patch on it. That would make sense since it was only for 2 more years. The wear and tear wouldn't be bad. However, Unlike the shoe example you gave(which sounds like a costume Dept flub) the jacket never switched back and forth during an episode. It would stay one color for a episode or two then after a break(some times many episodes of even wait until the next season) where he would wear other types of jackets(example-brown bomber) he would show up in the other color jacket. The arm pocket stitching was not a subtle thing either. On some it would show the whole zipper like the pic in the link to the gear store below. Others would have a flap that covered the zipper so you wouldn't see it plus the pocket itself had different ripples sewn. Some have a pull tab on the main zipper. Believe it or not I noticed all this right away when I saw the episodes originally. As I did the research for myself I found all the boring facts like how they don't stay puffy if you wear them to the extent Mac would. I know since I have a couple versions myself. I remember the fifth season he wore the newer navy but it would look darker when it got wet in the rain. I was just watching the "Nagotiator"(season 3) and he's wearing the navy but when it's cloudy or low light and a far away shot it looks more black. The first scene is a great example. "Squeeze Play" is the black one. I think it helps to hold one in your hand to see how it looks from different distances also. Now I keep going to the CBS site to watch certain moments to see when he wears the navy and when he wears the black. I think what you said is right Rockatteer. He had 2 that he switched back and forth from through the years but once the patch was on he only wore the one jacket.
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OK, I just went back and watched the beginning of negotiator, and there's a couple of shots when MacGyver's driving his jeep (when the trucks behind him) where the jacket has good white sunlight shinning on it and you can really see the color of the material, and it is navy blue, as is the collar material.
So I guess that confirms that there was a navy jacket as well as the black.
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Id hate to think the creators would think us so oblivious to think it's always been the same jacket for all 7 years
Well they did with his brown bomber jacket. In fact in Hell week there even a mention made about how long he's been wearing the same bomber jacket, which indicates that he wears the same stuff because it's comfortable to him, so with that example tucked under-arm, it's quite conceivable that he would wear the same black jacket for as long.
However I have noticed that there is a different style with the flight jackets. He wears one for which the length seems too short on him. It seems to only just reach his waste, and if he moves his arms up, the jacket pulls up over his waste, like its a size too small. If you compare that to the jacket he wears in, say, the negotiator, which is a longer better fitting jacket, it would seem conceivable that they are indeed two different jackets.
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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 1 April 2009 - 12:08 PM)
OK, I just went back and watched the beginning of negotiator, and there's a couple of shots when MacGyver's driving his jeep (when the trucks behind him) where the jacket has good white sunlight shinning on it and you can really see the color of the material, and it is navy blue, as is the collar material.
So I guess that confirms that there was a navy jacket as well as the black.
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Id hate to think the creators would think us so oblivious to think it's always been the same jacket for all 7 years
Well they did with his brown bomber jacket. In fact in Hell week there even a mention made about how long he's been wearing the same bomber jacket, which indicates that he wears the same stuff because it's comfortable to him, so with that example tucked under-arm, it's quite conceivable that he would wear the same black jacket for as long.
However I have noticed that there is a different style with the flight jackets. He wears one for which the length seems too short on him. It seems to only just reach his waste, and if he moves his arms up, the jacket pulls up over his waste, like its a size too small. If you compare that to the jacket he wears in, say, the negotiator, which is a longer better fitting jacket, it would seem conceivable that they are indeed two different jackets.
Exactly! I believe the one is the older one and has the puffiness worn out of it so it hangs better. And to add to what you said: I remember them mentioning that Brown bomber in that episode. I always took it as an appropriate dig at how ratty that jacket looked. When he got a newer one I was thrilled because it's realistic. I know I've had a hard time letting go of jackets and shirts but those around me try to convince me that it's time to get a newer one. I'm such a pack rat:)
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We know our stuff. LOL! Maybe more then we should:)
Yep Rockateer, I think it depends on the manufacturer.
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