Even if they had used the original cast of Dukes, the writers still ruined the story and skewed it way to much from the TV show.

Same thing happened for the Starsky and Hutch movie, I don't have a lot of hope for the A team movie either. I suspect that will wander pretty wide of the original show also.

It's a shame Hollywood has to do this to our fav tv shows.

Rocky,

I took Starsky and Hutch as a serious police drama. The Dukes of Hazard as a comedy/drama type thing. It is my feeling that they try to hype these things up to make the younger generations think the 80's and 90's were a fun time. Life was simpler somewhat back then but I don't remember it being all rainbows and roses.

i do remember the 1980's being alot more simpler, hair bands, shows that you could sit down with the entire family.

I can remember when there were certain words that you couldn't say on tv. And know look they are said all the time except the f word. I remember watching Smokey and the Bandit and they had to do voice overs. I don't know what the remake of Miami Vice was like. I never saw it. Now all you ever see is swearing, fighting and killing in the most gruesome way possible. No wonder our kids are running wild. Mine don't because they have four legs and either bark or meow. Sorry I know that was off topic.

same hear i remember you couldn't say half the things we can say today, or show things.

I don't know how things are run in the US but I've seen backstage footage of Basic Instinct (the first one) and they showed some tv-airings of the movie. And I couldn't believe what I saw about using voice over covering the bad words.

There also HBO. The Sopranos, Deadwood, Oz, Entourage, all tv-shows that has a lot of swearing. Deadwood is known that it has a lot more swearing than The Sopranos. Sometimes more than three F-words in one line.

One show that has gone perfectly to the edge of PG-13 is The Shield. It has great scenarios, great actors, hard violence and the whole vocabulary except for the f-words. It has more swearing in it than 24.

Now I presume you're talking about the movie of Miami Vice from Michael Mann with Colin Farell and Jamie Foxx. That was an R-rated actioner. It had violence in them and language.

There are some things that bothers me. I don't mind the fact swearing on tv. But it all depends on what kind of shows you do it. I think in latest shows which are meant to be harder like 24, Lost, The Shield and so on... I really don't mind. But it seemed like the fact now it's more on television it's less in movies. That bothers me even more. Lately all the movies, actioners, horror or thrillers are PG-13. I was disappointed Die Hard 4 was PG-13. (Though I know there's an R-rated dvd out there) In horrorfilms or thrillers meant for PG-13 they hardly show anything any more. Either do it and make it rated R or don't do it but don't rape genres that are meant for older audiences with movies that are meant for kids. If movies like Lethal Weapon or Die Hard were made now, they never be so nostalgicly good as they are now. They just flop.

If a movie like The Last Boyscout which has use of alcohol, drugs, smoking, language and intense violence was made today. At least three of those elements would've been erased. If The Fast and The Furious movies were made fifteen to twenty years ago, they would've received an R-rating. Nothing is allowed anymore like in the early '90s. I like things old school.

Sorry for going off topic too.

Was there a point in there somewhere?

That everything should be more rated R again and that R ratings aren't so bad as everybody thinks. But that's my opinion.

I can remember here in the Untied States that you couldn't go to an R-rated movie without adult acommpanyment., and you had to be 17 before you could get in on your own.

Now I see PG-13 ratings that 20 some years ago would've been an R rating, and PG movies that should've been a G ratings. For example ET.

Sorry Rocky I know it is off topic.

i remember that as well.

Censorship often just seems totally random to me.
Who decided that certain words are so bad? Has hearing swear words really EVER harmed anyone? Of course not. Has seeing a nipple ever destroyed anyone? Nope. And why is it okay for a man's nipples to be shown, but not a woman's? I can understand not wanting to show excessive violence on TV, but swear words and nipples have never harmed anyone.

Having said that, and to bring this back on topic, I wouldn't want to see a MacGyver movie in which Mac runs around swearing at people, simply because that's not in character with who he is. And I don't want to see him hanging around in a strip club for the same reason (although he did go to that EXTREMELY dull strip club with Jack Dalton once.)

yorur right i don't want to see MacGyver in a club, cussing or shoting a gun.

i would love to see how pete and MacGyver meet and as well as see where things have gone from since the last time we saw MacGyver and friends.

That was probably a hired limo by the Phoenix Foundation.

It was still wrong for them to leave Pete standing outside listening to Mac and Sam go riding off into the sunset. There was no love, emotion or anything. I saw Pete as a father figure for Mac. And Mac didn't even acknowledge it. It's just wrong. Pete played a bigger role in Macs life, and all of the fans know it. I'm sorry off topic

Your right it wouldn't feel right to see Pete on the side lines, Pete was a father figure to MacGyver in so many ways, he was there for MacGyver when he was hurt, sadness, happyness and almost died.

Hey you should copy this post in the discussion thread for that episode as well.

It's a valid point I think.

I agree as well.

That was probably a hired limo by the Phoenix Foundation.

It was still wrong for them to leave Pete standing outside listening to Mac and Sam go riding off into the sunset. There was no love, emotion or anything. I saw Pete as a father figure for Mac. And Mac didn't even acknowledge it. It's just wrong. Pete played a bigger role in Macs life, and all of the fans know it. I'm sorry off topic

Hey, come on, they hugged each other before leaving. What more should they have done?

I never saw a father figure in Pete for Mac. They're close friends and co-workers. That's how I see them. Alright, I can see why Pete considers himself like family after all they've been through together in moments of happiness, sadness, hurt and even almost death. Though I can imagine Pete thinking Mac being the son he never had.

But there was never no father-son love shown between the two. Just a very deep mutual respect and trust for each other and that already is a lot. Everything always remained professional. They've shaken hands in multiple episodes. Besides I think the hug in The Stringer was the only one in the whole show. The only other example of shown affection is in Good Knight MacGyver but it still only shows the deep respect and trust they have for each other. Such a good intense moment when Pete as King Arthur places the amulet around Mac's neck and says: 'Now, we are one. Godspeed, my son', with his hands resting on Mac's shoulders.

And also the moment in Serenity when they make up their fight.
'We ain't got no problems. We're friends. Right?'
'That's what I wanted to hear.'
And a few pats on the back.

Sounds more like it!

Even that wasn't respected in the last scene.

Pete says he can't imagine not having Mac around, and MacGyver just blows him off with a well things chance - get over it attitude.

It was very cold and defiantly nothing like we had seen in any other episode.

Got my vote to. Still would like to see Pete mentioned and a dedication to Dana Elcar.

The answer to this question really depends on what time period the film is set.

If it's set in present time, or sometime after the show ended, then no they're not too old.

If it's set in the same period as the show, or even before the show, then yes, they are too old.

I hope that they would make it a present time movie, nothing to futuristic. I think the technology should be there. I think the DSX and the Phoenix should still be around.

I just want the loose ends tied up and they weren't. I still see Pete as a father figure for Mac. And like I said in Passages, Pete says he is the closet thing to family that Mac has. Dana Elcar was as much apart of MacGyver as Richard Dean Anderson was, and it should be acknowledged in a dignified way. And to me if that means starting the movie with Pete's funeral then so be it. Sam showed far more emotion to Pete then Mac did. Mac was very unMac like.

Sorry Rocky I know it is off topic.

It wouldn't be the same without them the same as it wouldn't if RDA didn't play MacGyver. It rightfully couldn't be called a MacGyver movie.

It wouldn't be the same without them the same as it wouldn't if RDA didn't play MacGyver. It rightfully couldn't be called a MacGyver movie.

there are plenty of episode which don't have them in, and they are non-the-less MacGyver episodes.

there are plenty of episode which don't have them in, and they are non-the-less MacGyver episodes.

I think what she meant was if Murdoc and Jack were to be appeared in the movie the characters wouldn't be the same if not played by Michael and Bruce, as if the same for MacGyver and RDA. I too would prefer bringing those familiar characters from the show to the big screen, provided that they are played by the same actors.

I would like to see how Michael and Bruce have aged. And especially if Jack is up to his old tricks, trying to lure Mac into some misguided adventure. It would make quiet a good MacGyver movie. I wonder what Michael Des Barres looks like now? and how that character could fit into the movie.

there are plenty of episode which don't have them in, and they are non-the-less MacGyver episodes.

I think what she meant was if Murdoc and Jack were to be appeared in the movie the characters wouldn't be the same if not played by Michael and Bruce, as if the same for MacGyver and RDA. I too would prefer bringing those familiar characters from the show to the big screen, provided that they are played by the same actors.

That is what I meant RDA IS MacGyver. No one else could ever be MacGyver but him!!!!

This post has been edited by Rockatteer on 12 May 2009 - 03:40 PM