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The original question was: How many times has Mac been shot? Macgyversgirl changed it into: How many times did we see Mac get shot? Which is really another question. That's what caused the confusion. The answer to the first question is eight. The second answer is ten. So if we take both questions two answers are possible.
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Excuse me? Don't blame me for something that YOU did! You are the one who turned into this huge thing so take the blame that you so richly deserve!!! If you look back from the beginning you will see that YOU TRAVELLER is the one that started it. Are you just mad because you did not figure it out first ?
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Mad? Not figure things out? Blame? What are you talking about? I am trying to have an interesting discussion about Mac-things here.
You take things much too personal, macgyversgirl. I don't blame you for anything. I just reacted to something you posted, at the start, because I thought I could contribute something. After my first reaction you changed the question a bit, which is fine by me, but if you cannot accept other opinions than your own, well, than you must not participate in a discussion. This is not a fight, this is an exchange of opinions and views. The more, the merrier, and the more interesting a discussion can get. But when someone, for instance you, is going to fight and bicker and take offence, well, then I'm out. I'm here to exchange and learn and talk and have fun. Not to be insulted by someone who doesn't understand how to discuss things.
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How many times has Mac been shot or how many times did we see Mac get shot are the same question.
He gets shot in Serenity, appears to be unharmed. He gets shot in Good Knight MacGyver resulting into the wound he sustained when he hit the ground in part one.
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10 times. Does firing off a rocket count? Because that would make it 11 times if you count Stricktly Business. With gun or rifle it would be ten times.
I think the poison that was used was applied to this knife, passed to the mutton when it was cut and then activated by the wine. - MacGyver. Sometimes you just have to die a little inside to be reborn and rise again as a stronger and wiser version of you. It's better to be a little sad than to be fake content.
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QUOTE (macgyversgirl @ 31 March 2010 - 01:56 PM)
Actually he was shot and the knife blocked it. Mac version of a bullet proof vest maybe.
but then he wasent shot, that like saying someone someone got shot in a car but the windshield blocked it. if the bullet does not penetrate the flesh then it doesnt count, it doesnt matter what was the intended target was. the sak was shot not MacGyver
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I am sorry if I sounded witchy I did not mean to at all. I too am here to talk Mac and have a little fun as well. This is the only site that you can do it and not get made fun of or listen to others make fun of Rick. I think there are alot of aspects of MacGyver that can be interpreted in many ways. But that only adds to the fun of it I think.
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Thanks for your last post, macgyversgirl. To tell you the truth, I was a bit shocked at the violent way you lashed out at me. And I'm glad you're sorry. So now we're good. I hope we can have many more discussions, in the nicest possible way.
And I agree, Rock, it's amazing how many sides there are to this subject. It's great to see (and to join in) the lively discussions going on for days here. So thanks to you for making this possible.
Actually he was shot and the knife blocked it. Mac version of a bullet proof vest maybe.
but then he wasent shot, that like saying someone someone got shot in a car but the windshield blocked it. if the bullet does not penetrate the flesh then it doesnt count, it doesnt matter what was the intended target was. the sak was shot not MacGyver
Actually I think if the bullet impacts against you it is refered to as being shot, regardless of if it actually goes in to you or hits something against your body which stops it (i.e. bullet proof vest, SAK in pocket, etc). If the bullet completely misses you it's called being shot at.
I think this is why solders and police and stuff say they're getting shot at and then if they are hit (even in the vest) they say they (or someone else) got shot.
So to use the car and windshield example, that would be being shot at because the bullet completely missed the driver.
So I guess the correct terminology here is that he was shot, but saved from injury by the SAK.
Who would have thought this discussion would have branched out into so many different areas?
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Well Rock it is a 3d world.
I too think that it should be considered a shot even though the bullet did not enter into him. We had an incident here with a police man who was shot in a bullet proof vest but it was still reported that he got shot.
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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 1 April 2010 - 08:51 PM)
QUOTE (Flyboy16 @ 1 April 2010 - 02:00 PM)
QUOTE (macgyversgirl @ 31 March 2010 - 01:56 PM)
Actually he was shot and the knife blocked it. Mac version of a bullet proof vest maybe.
but then he wasent shot, that like saying someone someone got shot in a car but the windshield blocked it. if the bullet does not penetrate the flesh then it doesnt count, it doesnt matter what was the intended target was. the sak was shot not MacGyver
Actually I think if the bullet impacts against you it is refered to as being shot, regardless of if it actually goes in to you or hits something against your body which stops it (i.e. bullet proof vest, SAK in pocket, etc). If the bullet completely misses you it's called being shot at.
I think this is why solders and police and stuff say they're getting shot at and then if they are hit (even in the vest) they say they (or someone else) got shot.
So to use the car and windshield example, that would be being shot at because the bullet completely missed the driver.
So I guess the correct terminology here is that he was shot, but saved from injury by the SAK.
Who would have thought this discussion would have branched out into so many different areas?
Dang! I think you covered anything very good! You are right sorry about that
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QUOTE (Rockatteer @ 2 April 2010 - 10:21 AM)
and so we have yet another aspect to what started as a simple question?
Is the question how many times was he wounded from a shot.. or how many times was he shot (and hit) regardless of damage?
It just keeps getting more complected.
The question reads " How many times has MacGyver been shot?" I don't think that specifics were asked as far how much damage or whether it was in Mac;s dreams or Mac's reality- just how many times he was shot. Look at it this way Rocky, a tree has many branches just has this question has many answers.
Except we're not talking about how many times MacGyver was shot in the MacGyver universe. We're talking about how many times MacGyver was shot in a story line of the show.
And the bullet in The Stringer missed him as he dived over the railing, after which he fell down and broke his arm.
Watch it again. He grabs his shoulder and falls backwards over the railing. There's no diving involved.
It's actually a nit-pick of the episode. Every indication is that he was shot in the shoulder, yet all they deal with from then on is his broken arm and his shoulder appears to be fine. It's either bad writing, bad editing, or bad directing, or a combination, but what ever it is, it amounts to bad story telling.
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You're right. Bad writing, I guess. Or a continuity mistake, because there is not a bullet hole, or blood, in sight. Something similar happens in 'Brainwashed; when Mac is shot by Jack, his hand is bloody from touching the spot where he apparently is hit, but his leather jacket seems to be completely intact. Only a few scenes later he has a piece of cloth bound around his arm.
Shot??? What difference would it make? The explosion that blows him out of the boat in The Negotiator should have left him in at least 18 different parts. Instead, minor burns and a few vision issues. Apparently he also survived being underwater for a while as "working divers" fished him out of the drink. He looked like the "Death Star" at the end of Star Wars. I've seen 4th of July fireworks that weren't blown as high in the air as he was. I was surprised he didn't hit his head of fanny since it was over his head for a while on a passing airplane. I've seen big hotels in Las Vegas blown to a pile of rubble with less dynamite. He should of at least limped a little more. What harm could a little tiny bullet do?
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Let's just say Mac was lucky.
And another thing: how many scars, caused by all those bullets, you think MacGyver should have? I'd say a lot, but then I saw a clip of 'Trail to Doomsday', where he gets out of bed. No scars at all.
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You don't exactly see his whole body in Trail To Doomsday and Mac's usually shot left of his stomach but there should've been a bullet hole in his left shoulder from Humanity.
They probably hid those scars with make-up. Great nitpick though but that's a very small detail.
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QUOTE (macgyversgirl @ 26 March 2010 - 04:16 AM)
Shot S1 E17: To Be A Man - Right arm and shoulder.(bullet went in shoulder out arm) S2 E21: D.O.A. MacGyver - Above left eye. S3 E3: Back From The Dead-Left side of stomach. S4 E16: Brainwashed - Left arm. S5 E4: Cease Fire - Left side of stomach. S5 E12: Serenity - Left shoulder. S6 E2: Humanity - Left shoulder. S6 E20: Trail Of Tears-Left side of stomach. S7 E7: Good Knight MacGyver Part 2-Above left eye. S7 E13: The Stringer- Left shoulder. 10 times total. I hope this is what you were asking.
WoW!! I didn't realize it was that many! Guess that shows how awesome and strong MacGyver is to heal up from so many gun shot wounds and still get the job done.