Hi. I am thinking about getting a Victorinox pioneer and I am just wondering
what everyone thinks about this knife.I also hear the backsprings are stronger than the 91mm Cellidor handled ones, any thoughts?

It's a great knife. There are some who might opt for a Farmer or Electrician over the Pioneer/Soldier in that SAK genre. All depends on your basic usage needs, I guess.

I think the Pioneer is a fine knife. The Alox models are a bit stronger in the backsprings, but not so much that it's an issue. My only issue is the key ring placement on the Alox line (it's in a slightly different position than the cellidor knives) -it really stabs my palm. Of course, YMMV.

Also, remember that you're losing the toothpick and tweezers in the Alox line.

I had to go look it up because I've not heard of that type before.

It's missing too many of the useful tools for me. I'm constantly using the cross head screwdriver, tweezers and toothpick on my Ticker, but that's why I have one, because it suits my needs. That's the great think about SAKs there's one to suit everyone's needs and if this will suit your needs than it's the knife for you.

Great knife i have it. Backsprings are stronger because knife donīt have any blades on backside. Basicly it is old model soldier knife with keyring and different cross logo. Alox handles makes knife thinner than normal plastic versions.

Thanks for the info. I will absolutely get this knife.

I have to agree that this is a nice looking SAK.

Yes, it's a great price on Amazon.com. They also make one just like this called the farmer they just add a saw. I can sacrifice the toothpick and tweezers for the Alox handles. They hold up much better than the Cellidor handles and the tools are slightly larger which I like.

Interesting. Think you might have tempted me...

Well, went to my local hardware store yesterday to pick up a few things and decided to pick one of these on my way out

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Used it yesterday & have to agree that it is a solid multitool to use.

very nice. I just got mine and it is great. the tools are noticeably
larger than the Cellidor ones. it feels very substantial and the Alox
scales are as tough as nails!

Absolutely agree! Thanks for bringing up this topic. You sure convinced me & i am thrilled I got one.

So just today my friend got me a wooden handled Spartan as a Christmas gift and it is great. The handles are made of walnut wood which is very durable and will patina over time.
So now I have 2 great knives!

Another great knife is the Spartan. Must look at some pics of the one with the wooden handle.

Does it look like this?



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Yes that's it. Here is a link to the knife.

http://www.victorinox.com/us/product/Swiss...e/Spartan/53603

Also does anyone have tips on how to care for the wooden handles?

that link doesn't work. Says the page no longer exists.

I have a walnut-handled can opener which I use mineral oil on, the same as I use on the sak pivots and wood cutting boards. The scales on what you have could be treated with something, I have a wooden handled bread knife that never looks any different no matter how much it's washed, but my can opener will start looking funny without mineral oil now and then. Like the wood starts drying out and shrinking.

Wow. Already a classic knife, the wooden handle only refines its timeless look.

I will try the link again.


https://www.swissarmy.com/us/app/product/Sw...e/Spartan/53603

I am not sure if they are only being used for a limited time.

I agree with what KiwiTek says here, but not just because I use a similar SAK. I use a Deluxe Tinker because out of all the SAK's I've owned so far, I find this one to be the most well rounded for my uses. It all depends on what you use it for the most and what your preferences are : ) The Pioneer is perfectly fine and I still use it from time to time. It's lighter than some of the others too.