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Posted: 20 January 2016 - 01:56 PM                                    
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I know there are a lot of stories on Tomb Raider. Like how Last Revelation was supposed to be last one but they still squeezed Chronicles in for PS1. Right now I can play them all except for Angel Of Darkness. Legend, Anniversary and Underworld were released for PS3 and I still have a PS1. If there is one reason to keep the PS1, it's because of Tomb Raider. I've been playing them for years. Still never finished it but I really would like to keep doing it or at least play the first two, it's been years!

I have no particular favorite, but I remember like Tomb Raider III was very popular in '98. That game was ahead of everything and everyone on gameplay. She had several outfits, looked good, that game was quite something. Now on the Facebook page a lot of fans are complaining that it's not the same anymore and she's too different and blablabla... What are your thoughts on the reboots? I think Tomb Raider from 2013 was a great game, also one of the best I played. I understand to complaints on the fact Rise of the Tomb Raider was brought for Xbox One first instead of PS4. It does indeed feel like a bit of betrayal. Tomb Raider belongs to Sony Playstation. But right now I consider the reboots more as prequels since she is becoming the Tomb Raider. I just go with the flow.



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In all honesty, the less you know about a character sometimes, the better. Mainly because people aren't always going to like the origin story. I despised The Last Revelation because it made no sense. Von Croy teaches Lara so he is her mentor. Right. Next he wants to kill her. Right. Next he loves her again? Wrong! The story was too confusing. His character did not stick to his profiles. Why spend an entire game on a mission to murder someone and then start up an expedition to save her?

I think they lost a bit of the audience/fans with that one and that is why they made Chronicles. Chronicles contained elements of the first 2 games which is what they were trying to show off. Even Pierre DuPont makes a return.

Angel of Darkness was terrible. Urgh! Since, I have never been able to get back into Tomb Raider. Even Anniversary. Simply because its not the same developers anymore. Its a new team with a new vision. Tomb Raider (Reboot) was frightening and much more realistic BUT here's the thing. Its not Tomb Raider. At least not the Tomb Raider I remember. I guess you got a feeling when you played the original trilogy (It was going to be a trilogy too at one point). Even Nathan McCree's classic music was fantastic. He did not try to copy Indiana Jones. He did his own thing. But it worked.

I actually get the sense most of the games nowadays are based on the movies. And even the movies got it wrong.



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Posted: 21 January 2016 - 12:30 AM                                    
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The biggest problem now is you can read most peoples complaints on Facebook. And that's all they do, complain. It makes you wonder why they are still there. I know it's a new team with a new vision. Maybe it's because I've been out of it for so long that I really like Tomb Raider (2013) so much. And I know upon till now the guns has been replaced by bow and arrow. And actually again they revisioned her origins story. She crashed in the mountains and found out she was happy when travelling alone, than Von Croy taught her everything and in the latest game it was because of a shipwreck.

I never got very far in Last Revelations. I remember something about very big levels and getting lost all the time. I think by the time Revelations was released Crystal Dynamics or Eidos was about to go out of business.

When I play the originals it's out of nostalgia just as it is with everything else. I know there is this thing about being the lonely character far away in the mountains or deep in the jungle or deserts or a compound in the ocean and the game is mostly silent with a lion or a bear or T-Rex popping up. Just a few sounds when you find ammo or medkits and occassionally there is a short bit of music in case of action. Nathan McCree did good. I think it was more The Infernal Machine who wanted a piece of the pie and actually had one of their best games.

I was never a big fan of the movies either (but since it's Angelina tongue.gif) but that's what you get and some peoples like Paul W.S. Anderson doesn't seem to understand that making movies out of games never or rarely work just as the other way around barely works. But than I just use my imagination. However I have a lot of respect for Alien The Nostromo Edition, that is one that just worked and Back To The Future The Game. Otherwise, I think it's the thought that counts, but there are misfits of games like Fast and Furious Showdown. Rambo The Videogame was ok but not great. Terminator Salvation was fun but not that great either.

Maybe they'll find the way someday that works and in the meantime we have to keep our eyes open for games that can match Alien The Nostromo Edition.



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Posted: 21 January 2016 - 01:58 AM                                    
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On the contrary it was Last Revelation that was successful. It looked and felt fantastic. I just hated the Von Croy Character contradiction. That was enough for me to hate it.

Chronicles did not sell very well but it was still given high ratings. It was the infamous Angel of Darkness that killed the franchise and Eidos lost the rights to Tomb Raider.

Crystal Dynamics bought it and released Legend, |Anniversary & Underworld. They also wanted to appeal to a bigger audience which is why they ported Tomb Raider to Xbox too. Their games were more successful but Underworld made them lose the franchise. biggrin.gif

So we're down to the third try now with Tomb Raider & Rise. And a third game in development.



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Posted: 21 January 2016 - 03:37 AM                                    
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I think Rise of the Tomb Raider won't be released on PS4 until late this year. So yeah, I understand why fans are ticked off. Almost a year in between with the Xbox release while Lara is a Playstation character.

I'd just play for the hell of it. Good, bad, don't matter By the time Tomb Raider III was released I was 12 years old and I never had the patience to finish a game at the time so perhaps I wasn't that big of a fan back than. I know it was popular but I don't think I can make or see the difference in the character or in gameplay as some others do. Right now you can do a lot more. OK, they changed things like stealth attacks but I think they capture the sense of adventure well. Maybe indeed the tomb raiding needs some tuning and going back to underground mazes and puzzle solving.

I don't think they can complain. Lara was/is a very profitable product and she's back in the game and it's been almost 20 years now. I'm getting warm again to start playing. biggrin.gif



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Posted: 21 January 2016 - 03:53 AM                                    
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I'm actually not a huge Tomb Raider fan. My brother-in-law is though. I've played bits and pieces of his games when I was at his house... I was the chaperon when he was dating my sister... lol To keep me from getting bored, he'd let me play his video games... which is how I got into Metal Gear Solid and Silent Hill. I even played some Doom 3, which my mother wasn't too happy about. XD

Tomb Raider used to frustrate me and he'd laugh at me every time I failed, so I didn't really get into that one too much. However, I did play the Tomb Raider for the Xbox 360 and thought it was excellent. I've been wanting to get the Definitive Edition for the Xbox One, as it's like... $20. Later on, I'll probably pick up Rise of the Tomb Raider. I'm currently waiting on Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare 2, which gets released next month. My friends and I were playing the Beta this weekend and had a lot of fun with it.

I also got a pretty good deal on Dragon Age: Inquisition for the Xbox One as well. I originally played it on the Xbox 360, but they released a Game of the Year Edition for the One, which has all the DLC's and extras... all for $40! The game was intended for the next gen consoles, but I only had the 360 at the time, and graphics were just super buggy and low quality in comparison.

KY just got snowed in, so it'll give me something to do this weekend while I wait for everything to thaw.

I think I need to move further south...



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Posted: 21 January 2016 - 04:29 AM                                    
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Nothing is more annoying than to be laughed at, at a frustrating point in a game. Sometimes you just also have frustrating games.



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The first Tomb Raider from the PS1 was more of a puzzle solving / exploring game. But the puzzles were smart and solvable. The second one was more action orientated and less puzzle solving. But they were more or less the same. From the third game, the puzzles got difficult and became a little frustrating. I personally battled with most of the puzzles on Tomb Raider III. But eventually managed to finish them all. It reminded me of the old school adventure.

Angel of Darkness was enough to veer me off the series indefinitely. From then, I never went back 100%. Even after Tomb Raider (2013).

Lately, I have been playing a lot of Gears of War. Got quite far into the game and I'm enjoying it. The only thing I dislike is that all the terrain is an apocalyptic city. Kinda reminds me of Fallout 3. That's another game I haven't played much. Got to a city just after I left the shelter and went into a bar. From there someone got assassinated and everyone thought it was me. Now every time I play, everyone chases me till I'm dead. Did I do something wrong? Is that part of the game?? biggrin.gif



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Well to be honest I think I can play Tomb Raider I & II without the walkthrough. I've been playing years on Tomb Raider III and I quite remember well where I ended. It was in London at the subway station and a timed door. I think this conversation has pretty much persuaded me into giving it another go and finish them once and for all.




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biggrin.gif Good to hear. They certainly were fun. Quite possibly some of the best games I ever played.

I will always regard Tomb Raider 1-3 as my favourite. Even at some extreme lengths accept Last Revelation & Chronicles.

Still working on the rest though. biggrin.gif



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On Fallout 3, that almost sounds like Simms getting killed. He's the sheriff of Megaton. If you did a quest where some guy approached you to set off the bomb in the middle of Megaton, and you told Simms about it, Simms will confront the guy and he'll kill Simms if you're not quick enough. However, that alone shouldn't cause the settlers to turn on you. I'll poke my friend Kat about it since she's playing Fallout 3 right now.

In Fallout 4, I dropped a bunch of armor into a box in a settlement, and the settlers turned on me as if I was stealing. lol Fallout isn't perfect, but once you get used to it, it's a really good game.

Someone behind Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 must have been a fan of HP Lovecraft because there's two references to the Dunwich Horror and a reference to Pickman's Model. The Dunwich building in Fallout 3 is super creepy...

If you have a save point before going into Megaton, you can always go back to that and start over. I've done that several times. The trick to Fallout is to save, save, save, save, save. lol



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Another reason why I am buying a hard drive hard drive hard drive. biggrin.gif

Next week, Then I will save like there's no tomorrow.

Yea, thanks, Jedi. Any info will be useful. I cant even recall the specifics. I do remember meeting up with the sheriff when I entered Megaton and then I went to some preacher or something. laugh.gif

From there I made my way to the tavern / bar and spoke with someone upstairs. Then I think they left and they were killed. All of a sudden, I'm public enemy No 1 with a bullet between the eyes. biggrin.gif

No, I wasn't drinking. biggrin.gif I think I must have been VERY tired which is why I don't remember much. Don't forget, I can only play games when everyone is sleeping in my home. That's around 10pm-midnight. And after the day I have (Usually), I am exhausted.

Whereabouts is the Dunwich building in Fallout 3?



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With all this talk of Tomb Raider guess what I played over the weekend? biggrin.gif

Well, to be more precise, I decided to give The Last Revelation another try. Despite the conflicting story which I did not like, the game itself is very good and very well programmed. I was surprised at how well it has held up over the years. Lighting, filtering, shading and graphically and even next to no bugs. Its masterfully made and I got quite the thrill of jumping back into those tombs. I think I might just continue to finish it. Again. smile.gif



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And I've been listening to the themes from the first four games the past few days. biggrin.gif

I really like actually the somewhat sad Last Revelations theme and main menu.


A moving main menu with the camera going through several levels. Back in 1999 that was quite an achievement.

Think I'm going to have see how I attach the PS1 to the tv again so I can play it. biggrin.gif



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The themes were quite creepy for Last Revelation. The music is a rehash of McCree's music. So they are faithful to the series. Not bad. Like I said, the only thing I didn't like was the character mix up in the story. That aside, it was still a good game.



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I will no doubt be continuing my Tomb Raider revisiting this weekend. biggrin.gif

But if I have any additional time, would like to finish Gears of War too.



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I've been listening the soundtracks of the games now I-III. I don't want have anything spoiled yet for Revelation yet besides it's theme.

I so feel like playing but I have other things that requieres my attention and need to be handled first. And I just want to start playing as a 'reward'. The Peruvian levels, the Greco-Roman levels, Egypt... the level with the T-Rex, the level in that pit with the huge obelisk in the middle and the doors, underground temples...

Once I get around playing, I'll place my statistics here. Think I'm also going to finish the third game first as I was doing so years ago and at the same time start all over again in the first game and than hopefully catch up to Last Revelation so that I also play the first three games again while playing Last Revelation.



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Have fun! biggrin.gif

I definitely had tons of fun. I would recommend a walkthrough to ensure you get all the secrets. That way you experience a lot more of the game with its hidden treasures so to speak.



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Stella's Walkthroughs are great for that. They helped me before. Or as I did for the last Tomb Raider, the video walkthroughs on YouTube. Really helped a lot to find hidden stuff in the game. Actually the last one is one of the very few I actually finished 100%. I kinda replayed the game after finishing it to find all the secrets and goods and that took me also a few days to finish.



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I agree. Love Stellas walkthroughs! thumbsup.gif



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Posted: 31 January 2016 - 03:48 AM                                    
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With all this talk of Tomb Raider, I just went and spend money I didn't have....... lol Thanks a lot guys.

I ended up picking up Tomb Raider Definitive Edition and Rise of the Tomb Raider the other day. I've been playing Rise of the Tomb Raider the past couple of days, and I have to say it's a beautiful game. It's a lot like the Tomb Raider before it, at least... so far.

I also picked up Dragon Age Inquisition: Game of the Year Edition. It was a good deal brand new, so... well... I won't have much of a life for a while.



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Posted: 31 January 2016 - 04:57 AM                                    
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I'm inclined to buy PES 2016 for PS3. I read some reviews of Pes 2016 and Fifa 16 and PES seems to be the better game this year.

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Posted: 31 January 2016 - 07:10 AM                                    
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QUOTE (Jediferret @ 30 January 2016 - 04:48 PM)
With all this talk of Tomb Raider, I just went and spend money I didn't have....... lol Thanks a lot guys.

I ended up picking up Tomb Raider Definitive Edition and Rise of the Tomb Raider the other day. I've been playing Rise of the Tomb Raider the past couple of days, and I have to say it's a beautiful game. It's a lot like the Tomb Raider before it, at least... so far.

I also picked up Dragon Age Inquisition: Game of the Year Edition. It was a good deal brand new, so... well... I won't have much of a life for a while.

You are very welcome. smile.gif



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Posted: 31 January 2016 - 08:57 PM                                    
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Posted: 5 February 2016 - 05:01 PM                                    
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Its been a busy week so little to no time had on any video games. But I have abandoned my poor Xbox so I will try to give it some TLC this weekend. laugh.gif



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Posted: 12 February 2016 - 05:04 PM                                    
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Well Square Enix have just launched Final Fantasy IX on mobile devices this week. And like a hungry dog, I wanted to download it. But the price is ehh... And the worst part, its currently on sale!!!! Huh?! doh.gif

At this point in time the current Rand Dollar exchange rate is sewage low so buying this latest mobile caper will have to wait a while longer.

Still, if you never played it before, IX is quite fantastic.

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Posted: 13 February 2016 - 04:13 AM                                    
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I've never played Final Fantasy, though I have many friends that love the series. I just never tried it. One day, maybe... lol

I had to put Rise of the Tomb Raider on hold temporarily as I'm playing co-op with my two friends in Black Ops III. Mostly to get it out of the way. The Call of Duty series isn't one of my favorites... but we all enjoy the zombies mini game attached to it, which has gotten really convoluted since it was first introduced in World at War.

My one friend and I have been playing Minecraft as well... I've expanded since I took this screenshot. XD

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Posted: 13 February 2016 - 05:16 AM                                    
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I'm more in to WWII games. Call of Duty had a few of those set in WWII competing with Medal of Honor, but I don't know about this modern warfare stuff. It's just not appealing to me. WWII-genre has practically died out as well. I have Medal of Honor Airborne for PS3 and Wolfenstein. I just hope Rockstar Games would make one, someday.



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Love Minecraft myself but I have it on mobile. I have built so many fortresses in my world. Now its a matter of doing something more! But what?! biggrin.gif

I actually got a chance to play some more Gears of War this weekend. Yeee-Harrr! Now I have hitched a ride on an assault vehicle of some sort and I have to keep stopping and shining the strobe light in the sky to rid myself of those pesky night creatures!



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Posted: 16 February 2016 - 05:29 AM                                    
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You mean the Kryll? XD Those critters are like... bat piranhas. lol What got me, if you've done it yet, is the mine cart ride with the wretches. OMG! I did that so many times with my one friend that she actually raged quit the game. She doesn't rage quit very often, but I felt so bad because I was so new to co-op gaming that I was kinda clueless as to what I was doing... most of the time.

Next time I'm on Minecraft, I'll do a Twitch video of my flat world. I even made a replica of my apartment. lol What do you normally play? Creative or Survival? Have you seen Enderman? XD



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